sammyboy.com/posts/550029omg... if only I read it before. Could've saved me tons of my own digging. As I've said before, I just listen and learn...
thanks to takashi who found the post and posted the link.
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Serious [Wikipedia article] Northern and Southern China
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thanks to takashi who found the post and posted the link.
The main issue is the ancient Chinese poems n writings make more sense In Canto...than in all other cina languages
actually hor... reminds me of the Iching and some German had scholarize it and bring it into it's modern incarnation...
Tiong land has been conquered by the Mongol n Manchu...that is a fact...n now it's ruled by communism...an ang mor ideologywell, I think it's good not to forget it. don't you think you can argue they were never conquered?
hence the wink.
ancient japs, gooks, and viets imported some middle chinese words from the sui, tang, and song dynasties (at the height of chink imperial might and culture), and they would have retained some of the closest pronunciations to middle chinese. for sexample, "ichi, ni, san" are closer to fuckien "ick, ji, sah" than mandarin "yi, er, san". this is the simplest comparison, but of course, there are deeper ones. this is not the site for scholarly debates. too many prc imbeciles here who know nuts about chink linguistics. they anyhow humtum pretending to be sexperts. first, they butchered written chinese by using the simplified system. what a crock of shit.
is it humtum or actually an organized retelling from a pro CCP perspective?
anywhere else to go for more scholarly debates?
edit : now you got me think of eating hum...
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it has to start from here as prc diehards are scouring the world wide web to rewrite facts and studies, and propagate their bs. if they can destroy chinese culture and the chinese writing system, they can destroy anything.
I think the failure starts in sinkieland's teaching of history. Social sciences are poorly taught here.
when sinkieland changed traditional chinese to simplified chinese, one should know right away that the commies had infiltrated into the highest echelons of the civil service.
So if cantos are actually the yue ppl...than all the more cantoland should be independent ...no need to be associated and dragged down by fuckkas n fuckeins n cinas from other areasfrom wikipedia :
The Baiyue (Chinese: 百越), Hundred Yue, or simply Yue, were various ethnic groups who inhabited the regions of South China and Northern Vietnam during the 1st millennium BC and 1st millennium AD.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7] They were known for their short hair, body tattoos, fine swords, and naval prowess.
During the Warring States period, the word "Yue" referred to the State of Yue in Zhejiang. The later kingdoms of Minyue in Fujian and Nanyue in Guangdong were both considered Yue states. Meacham (1996:93) notes that, during the Zhou and Han dynasties, the Yue lived in a vast territory from Jiangsu to Yunnan,[6] while Barlow (1997:2) indicates that the Luoyue occupied the southwest Guangxi and northern Vietnam.[8] The Book of Han describes the various Yue tribes and peoples can be found from the regions of Kuaiji to Jiaozhi.[9]
The Yue tribes were gradually displaced or assimilated into Chinese culture as the Han empire expanded into what is now Southern China and Northern Vietnam.[10][11][12][13][14] Many modern southern Chinese dialects or those within Lingnan region bear traces of substrate languages[citation needed] originally spoken by the ancient Yue. Variations of the name are still used for the name of modern Vietnam, in Zhejiang-related names including Yue opera, the Yue Chinese language, and in the abbreviation for Guangdong.
interpret as you see fit.
That is a choice for the cantos to make for themselves. I have deep gratitude towards Cantonese culture and people. I can only point out history and provide information and truth. It is for them to choose what to make of it.
But consider that the only people in the same position as Cantos in the SE are Hakkas and Hokkiens currently. Add to that the Hokkiens are literally your genetic brothers. Cantos and Hokkiens are both Yue people. One is Nan Yue, the other is Min Yue. The only differentiating factor being language. Maybe culture.
Might be wiser to focus on the common enemy out to eradicate all of them rather than directing your vitriol to those in the same boat. Not productive.
Maybe you can enlighten me how Hakkas and Hokkiens drag Cantos down instead of the far North east end of China who is directing the ethnic cleansing?
when Cantoland is independent, Teochew region can break away ?
it will be fuckien next. teochew and fuckchow are small enclaves within the 2 big provinces of cuntoland and fuckienland respectively.
han chinks are overrated and have nearly gone sextinct. conduct a sextensive dna anal-ysis, and you'll be surprised "han" chinks have mongol and manchu y chromosomes. not only invaded and massacred, fucked until "han" y chromosomes becum endangered. at least in the south, less mongol and manchu y chromosomes.
I believe the culture is different between southern and northern. From food to size. Northerners are bigger.
Teochew region is historically part of Fujian province ? maybe the Cantonese took Teochew land away from the Hokkiens in a war back then.
improve your engrish comprehension lah. do you know the meaning of "respectively"? in the sentence "teochew and fuckchow are small enclaves within the 2 big provinces of cuntoland and fuckienland respectively", it means teochew in cuntoland and fuckchow in fuckienland.
Teochew people arrived in Southern China from Shanxi in the North some 500 years ago. They settled first in the Zhangzhou region in Southern Fujian. In the South, they gradually replaced their language which was Mandarin and adopted the local Min Nan language. They also borrowed some local customs from the native people staying around them. But they retained their identity and at the same time developed their own culture in the form of Teochew music and cuisine. After a few decades, they moved again as a group, to Shantou in Guangdong Province. So as a group, their stay in the South is shorter compared to other Southern Chinese groups. That could be the reason why some Teochews displayed certain physical appearance that one usually find in a Northern Chinese - tall, fair and slant-eyed.
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