Which country your ancestors had come from?

[moolightaffairs]

Republic of China used to have a law like this till 1980s. Every overseas Chinese can migrate to Taiwan as long as you can prove yourself of Chinese descent. You get your citizenship within a year upon application and staying in Taiwan.
This was Sun Yat Sen wishes that every Chinese ( specifically meaning Southern Chinese ) should return home one day to rebuild the motherland and we Nanyang Chinese were the "mother of revolution." The funds for Tong Mei Hui uprising against Qing mostly come from overseas Chinese in Southeast Asia, North America and Japan. HK and Southeast Asia contributed many men for those uprisings from 1905-11.
That's why that law was made - expressing gratitude to overseas Chinese.

good to hear that! i think i miss out on this part of the history. thanks for sharing. my friend got Taiwanese wife, maybe will check with him.

 

[Maximilian Chua-Heng]

No it's not political, it's cultural.

Our Resident Anthropologist RAmseth can shed some light on this issue surely?

alamak! Chinese is Chinese, pls dont be political.

 

[Ramseth]

I never said anything about being pinkerton, just that you seem to focus only on the singapore hokkiens. The examples I gave is just to show that it's common in other parts of the world as well. Yes even in Beijing Mandarin 操你娘 or 日你娘 are common terms.

Once again, I reiterate, vulgar vocabularly exists in all languages. But I feel Singlish Hokkien beats them all. That's all.

 

[Sideswipe]

good to hear that! i think i miss out on this part of the history. thanks for sharing. my friend got Taiwanese wife, maybe will check with him.

from wikipedia

Republic of China passports were issued to overseas Chinese, irrespective of whether they have lived or even set foot in Taiwan. The rationale behind this extension of the principle of jus sanguinis to almost all Chinese regardless of their countries of residence, as well as the recognition of dual citizenships, is to acknowledge the support given by overseas Chinese historically to the Kuomintang regime, particularly during the Republican Revolution of 1911.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationality_Law_of_the_Republic_of_China
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China_passport

 

[championplug]

Once again, I reiterate, vulgar vocabularly exists in all languages. But I feel Singlish Hokkien beats them all. That's all.

That's why you've been 操，吊，干， by the forumers for being bias. But still that's your opinion.

 

[Ramseth]

That's why you've been 操，吊，干， by the forumers for being bias. But still that's your opinion.

Yeah, Cantonese, Teochews etc. are accusing me being biased to back Hokkien for the vulgar championship.

 

[Watchman]

He is from an Alien race no one knows who !

 

[Rogue Trader]

I read that the original thais originated from china. That is why further north of thailand they look rather chinese.

The ancestors of the thais are called tai and i think they still reside in china today. Anyway they escaped from china to escape the mongols and arrived in northern thailand setting up sukhotai. I noticed thailand's history begins in like 1200s unlike china's which began thousands of yrs back.

Anyhow over the yrs they conquered and fought the various kingdoms and thus the thailand of today is formed.


I guess the same can be said of the malays whom come from yunan but they probably didn't escape the mongol hordes but landed in taiwan first before travelling by boat to indonesia and then malaysia.


All this is rather hazy to me, i read a mismash of such info last time so pls don't flame me if i'm wrong.

According to DNA tracing, there were 2 emigration waves that came to south eat asia (and australia). The first wave stuck along the coasts of the asian continent - india, burma, indonesia and then australia. From their fossils they are very similar to the australian aborigines or east timorese. they were the earliest "quitters" hahaha.

The second wave travelled north towards the central asia. they then moved eastwards towards china/japan and downwards to S.E.A.

So the indigenous of SEA aren't purely from yunan. they are most probably a mixture of the 1st and 2nd wave emigrants.

 

[Rogue Trader]

Once again, I reiterate, vulgar vocabularly exists in all languages. But I feel Singlish Hokkien beats them all. That's all.

HK cantonese swearing is definitely more 'colourful' than any other language/dialect i've heard. And believe me. cos I'm an avid learner of all swear/curse words.

And to say that taiwanese hokkien swearing is mild compared to singaporean hokkien, you must go live in southern taiwan to discover for yourself. watching 1000 episodes of 爱 doesn't make you an expert on taiwanese culture.

 

[Watchman]

Why do shallow Singaporeans love to associate
the Hokkiens or themselves to the Taiwanese ???

The Taiwanese themselves love to disassociate
themselves from Hokkiens here or the mainlanders .

 

[moolightaffairs]

Why do shallow Singaporeans love to associate
the Hokkiens or themselves to the Taiwanese ???

The Taiwanese themselves love to disassociate
themselves from Hokkiens here or the mainlanders .

you sound like a 分裂分子to me. Hokkiens Taiwanese all 华人. so whats you point??? r u a Chinese? or u r more atas bcos u r not Chinese?

 

[Ramseth]

HK cantonese swearing is definitely more 'colourful' than any other language/dialect i've heard. And believe me. cos I'm an avid learner of all swear/curse words.

And to say that taiwanese hokkien swearing is mild compared to singaporean hokkien, you must go live in southern taiwan to discover for yourself. watching 1000 episodes of 爱 doesn't make you an expert on taiwanese culture.

I have a Kaohsiung g.f. before. There, they didn't speak like in Singlish Hokkien. But perhaps of course, as a temporary guest there, I didn't get to hear the true colors of the wind there.

By the way, you major in Vulgarese is it?

 

[Rogue Trader]

By the way, you major in Vulgarese is it?

What major? I am working towards a doctorate. I can walk into any bar in New delhi, Beirut, Manila, Vietnam and get stabbed right after a few words.

As a general rule, the southerners of every region tend to be more vulgar. I think it has something to do with the humid weather and strong food flavours. That is the thesis for my phd.

 

[Ramseth]

What major? I am working towards a doctorate. I can walk into any bar in New delhi, Beirut, Manila, Vietnam and get stabbed right after a few words.

It's a wonder that you're still alive.

As a general rule, the southerners of every region tend to be more vulgar.

You haven't heard of Britain obviously.

 

[moolightaffairs]

really surprise to see so many people so interested in their roots in China.

 

[Ramseth]

really surprise to see so many people so interested in their roots in China.

Being Chinese is something to be proud of and treasured, but not arrogant of. And don't despise or shortchange other races with feel of superiority or suppression. Don't whine at other races shortchanging or suppression us; work a fair way out. That's true Chineseness, wherever.

 

[Agoraphobic]

Hate those assholes that say teochew nang kar chng ang ang cos hokkien lang kar chng seh tang.

As kids we found it funny and when we watched wildlife documentaries and observed baboons and mandrills with red backsides, it really cracked us up. I still find it funny.

Cheers!

 

[Rogue Trader]

You haven't heard of Britain obviously.

I'm after quality not quantity. inserting "fock" or "shite" between every 2 words is not my definition of the dogs bollocks in the swearing universe.

For a top notch swear phase you got to involve the cultural reference, the rich imagery, the family tree.

 

[Ramseth]

I'm after quality not quantity. inserting "fock" or "shite" between every 2 words is not my definition of the dogs bollocks in the swearing universe.

For a top notch swear phase you got to involve the cultural reference, the rich imagery, the family tree.

A top notch swear involving cultural reference and imaginery is promoted from a swear to a sarcasm.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

As kids we found it funny and when we watched wildlife documentaries and observed baboons and mandrills with red backsides, it really cracked us up. I still find it funny.

Cheers!

i guess i can say the same when i see some animal with piles or a rotten backside.