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The Official Euro 2012 Thread
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Rubbish may be rubbish but don't underestimate the effort needed to clear heaps of them.
touche, bro. enjoy the matches!
Rooting for the underdog ireland to tie and croatia to win....i know nothing about football....
.....gooooo underdogs
.....gooooo underdogs
Croatia 2-2 Spain
But who's going to score for Croatia? The tall guy who is normally not very good?
When I said an "obvious case of kelong", I wasn't referring to the manner of the match fixing but the context and circumstances that surround the match. Spain and Croatia would know better than to fix a 2-2 draw, cognisant that it would arouse widespread suspicion.
I didn't say it can't be fixed. What I said was that, contrary to the beliefs of some punters, football isn't WWE. Never did I dismiss match fixing at the highest level altogether. There are loads of money involved in the game. But in the history of match fixing exposes, bribes rarely, if ever, amounted to more than a million pounds.
I'm sure you thought Greece's Euro 2004 victory was fixed too. If Barcelona had played their true game, Chelsea wouldn't have won too. Football is a game played on paper. Favourites must always win. If they don't, it's fixed.
As I've explained before, at the highest level of football, it's virtually impossible to score against a team that parks the bus where space to maneuver is limited to mere millimetres. I thought the Russians could do the impossible. But I was wrong. Doesn't change the fact though that upsets are more than probable when teams defend as if their lives depended on it.
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Jelavic not starting for Croatia, looks like they are settling for the draw.
Prandelli has introduced 3 new defenders into his team, who have not played a single minute of the tournament.
Will they be fresh or rusty?
What about Rooney?
Boss, remember what I said about parking the bus? Croatia would be fired up for this match, as opposed to the arrogant Spaniards.
Am with you on this. If you want, any game can be a kelong game, what's there to talk about? Iam sure there's corruption and bribery in football, but it's absurd to say every game is kelong. From my experience, it's usually the betting losers who say make this assertion.
The more high profile a match is, the more difficult it's to kelong, so difficult it's nearly impossible. Take for example the champions league final, there're HUGE bets on BOTH sides. Kelong theorists, tell me, how to kelong? No need to go into details, just a basic idea will do.
If we view every match with suspicion, then might as well dont bother to watch. Whats the joy in wtaching?
When I said an "obvious case of kelong", I wasn't referring to the manner of the match fixing but the context and circumstances that surround the match. Spain and Croatia would know better than to fix a 2-2 draw, cognisant that it would arouse widespread suspicion.
I didn't say it can't be fixed. What I said was that, contrary to the beliefs of some punters, football isn't WWE. Never did I dismiss match fixing at the highest level altogether. There are loads of money involved in the game. But in the history of match fixing exposes, bribes rarely, if ever, amounted to more than a million pounds.
I'm sure you thought Greece's Euro 2004 victory was fixed too. If Barcelona had played their true game, Chelsea wouldn't have won too. Football is a game played on paper. Favourites must always win. If they don't, it's fixed.
As I've explained before, at the highest level of football, it's virtually impossible to score against a team that parks the bus where space to maneuver is limited to mere millimetres. I thought the Russians could do the impossible. But I was wrong. Doesn't change the fact though that upsets are more than probable when teams defend as if their lives depended on it.
Well, u can choose to believe what u want to believe and I can choose mine. But again, no hard feelings. I take it as useful discourse just to pass time and add more excitement to the games. Enjoy the 2nd halves.
If they continue parking the bus and draw 0-0, they will have to take many taxis to the airport for their flight home later.
Sometimes watching Spain play can be really annoying, no cutting edge at all.
The kelong theorists will say that the bookies will place huge legitimate bets on their desired outcome and then bribe the relevant players or officials to
get that outcome.
But like u said, the more high profile or the higher level the match or competition is, the more difficult it will be to find willing accomplices.
Their propensity for money and their willingness to be bribed will be low. Even the officials will be difficult to bribe, because officiating big games
is now really prestigous and even lucrative, with future tv appearances.
The bookies may end up bribing the lowly paid kitman, but how is he going to influence the match? Put itching powder on the jerseys?
For Croatia's Bilic, it will be to send on Jelavic.
For Ireland's Trappatroni, tell them to score at set piece instead of conceding!
Ok another member of the deja vu club.
Pure coincidence boss. I rely on analysis, not conspiracy theory or superstition.
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