The Education System is in need of a revolution.

[zhihau]

After all, their Mantra is " Nothing comes for free".

What are they up to?

15 million population! More PRCs and Indians to flood this country! Huat ah!

 

[frenchbriefs]

Yes I heard this is happening in the swedish system too. Kids can move freely between the technical and academic streams. This is done within the school level. Probably also made possible due to smaller class sizes.

Smaller class sizes should become the key objective for the MOE over the next decade. We can't possibly be stuck at 40 kids per class 50+ years after the founding of our nation. So sad if still 40 kids per class by SG100.

The difference between Singapore and swedish and Denmark and Australia society is,even if the child farks up their education,they still have $16 an hour minimum wage to fall back in.in sg u Fark up ur edu,it's factory packer job time for u.

 

[frenchbriefs]

Something I wish to comprehend, for I sense something is not ordinary. I have noticed MOE, have upgraded many of the schools or all the schools, with added classrooms, facilities etc..In order words they have made many of schools BIGGER. Yet, we know, birth rates are declining. Why the increased in classrooms etc.? unless they are preparing in some sneaky ways to make money...or they would not have spent so much money upgrading the schools. After all, their Mantra is " Nothing comes for free".

What are they up to?

Nothing from nothing leaves nothing,you gotta give a whole chicken,if u want chicken wing for free.

 

[hofmann]

The difference between Singapore and swedish and Denmark and Australia society is,even if the child farks up their education,they still have $16 an hour minimum wage to fall back in.in sg u Fark up ur edu,it's factory packer job time for u.

$16 per hour is pre-tax right? Let's call it $12 after tax, not counting their local GST.

In Singapore, I saw adverts for F&B staff at $1800-2200 for 6 day weeks. That's about $8/hr after tax before cpf.

The point is, we're closing the gap. Minimum wage is too blunt a tool for an economy with so many moving parts.

If we want to hit $12/hour, f&b salaries will probably be 2500-3000/mth. The price of your chicken coop is going to go up for sure.

 

[frenchbriefs]

$16 per hour is pre-tax right? Let's call it $12 after tax, not counting their local GST.

In Singapore, I saw adverts for F&B staff at $1800-2200 for 6 day weeks. That's about $8/hr after tax before cpf.

The point is, we're closing the gap. Minimum wage is too blunt a tool for an economy with so many moving parts.

If we want to hit $12/hour, f&b salaries will probably be 2500-3000/mth. The price of your chicken coop is going to go up for sure.

First 19k u earn in Australia is tax free,assuming u work an average 40 hours a week,an Australian on average makes $640 a week or $2560 a month or about 32k a year..... I suspect they pay 1 to 2k tax max.

 

[halsey02]

Then it's time to undress the LEEder. Expose, depose and dispose.
It's time for the people to say NO to LEEgaLEEsed corruption.
It's time for the people to reject PAP's Staged to Fit and Fix.
It's time for the people to say NO to PAP's ruLEE.

Fat hops that is...the only ones that gets undressed are the voters...70+30 or any combination.

 

[tanwahtiu]

Every children shd take a loan from gahment funded by CPF.... from day 1 of educating themselve through loan...

Then working pay back the loan. Parents are not responsible for funding children education...

This way the children are in control of their education destination to choose technical or academic study under loan system...

The difference between Singapore and swedish and Denmark and Australia society is,even if the child farks up their education,they still have $16 an hour minimum wage to fall back in.in sg u Fark up ur edu,it's factory packer job time for u.

 

[Kopi0Kosong]

Fat hops that is...the only ones that gets undressed are the voters...70+30 or any combination.

Fat hope? Then why even bother to compete in an election? Are you implying that the candidates of all alternative parties, Workers' Party included, naive and stupid?
Why bother to keep on complaining about this terrible and that horrible about the PAP LEEders when there is no glimmer of hope as you have indicated? Are the forummers in courtyard ignorant fools?

Yes, I fully agree that Singaporeans need to think carefully before placing their votes.
Likewise, the political leaders also need to think carefully as to why the people are not placing their trust in them.
Everyone needs to do their fair share of self-reflection, instead of always pointing the fingers at others.
Seriously, if I were to be a PAP supporter, my one and only strategy in this forum would be to get ants to fight.

 

[Kopi0Kosong]

Every children shd take a loan from gahment funded by CPF.... from day 1 of educating themselve through loan...
Then working pay back the loan. Parents are not responsible for funding children education...
This way the children are in control of their education destination to choose technical or academic study under loan system...

In most families, success in a family is appreciated and enjoyed by both young and old.
When there's failure, both generations will have to face the consequences.
PAP's consideration has always been about the 'eLEEtes' and seldom the little others.

 

[MaximiLian]

No scrap psle no talk

 

[zhihau]

Are the forummers in courtyard ignorant fools?

For the last three decades, I told my kakis we'll need to work very hard because there will be enough GCBs who will put PAP in power. I haven't been proven wrong, yet.

 

[Kopi0Kosong]

For the last three decades, I told my kakis we'll need to work very hard because there will be enough GCBs who will put PAP in power. I haven't been proven wrong, yet.

I joined this forum partly hoping to get a better understanding of the political situation in the country. I am not affiliated to or a member of any political party but I have always given my vote to an alternative candidate/party. My personal thought is that the ruling party should not have the mandate to do whatever and however it decides or feels like doing.

I dislike the arrogance and high-handedness displayed by PAP LEEders. I hate the $$elf-$$erving attitude of many PAP LEEders. Whichever party forms the ruling Government, there has to be accountability. Check and balance CANNOT come from within the ruling political party. A creditable and responsible ruling political leader should ensure this requirement. This is for the ruling party to justify to the people who elected the leaders as their representatives.

As a non-partisan Singaporean, it saddens me to witness so much bickerings and back-stabbings among the many alternative parties here. Like me, there are many interested, concerned, but non-partisan Singaporeans who visit this virtual space to hopefully have a better feel and understanding. Is this virtual space a good representation of the real world out there? If yes, then are the party supporters truly representing their respective parties, or the views of their party leaders? How can a politician not know that character-assassination of a fellow politician is detrimental to one's own political party, ...unless there is another hidden objective!!!

I can understand why when my fellow Singaporeans do not want to vote for an alternative candidate/party. I can empathise with the losing candidate/party. It's sad...sad for everyone. How did top PAP LEEders like Dr Seet Am and BG G Yeo feel when they lost? If only they had self-reflected and changed before their Waterloo GE! It's beneficial to do a bit of self-reflection.

My humble opinion and blabbering as an interested, concerned but non-partisan [maybe slightly towards anti-ruling] Singaporean.

 

[frenchbriefs]

The

For the last three decades, I told my kakis we'll need to work very hard because there will be enough GCBs who will put PAP in power. I haven't been proven wrong, yet.

But u still a civil servant.i have to question ur allegiance and agenda.

 

[tanwahtiu]

Come to a ruubish collection forum...

The host is anti- Chinese, back stabber and warmonger...

Nothing fruitful coming here...走吧...

I joined this forum partly hoping to get a better understanding of the political situation in the country. I am not affiliated to or a member of any political party but I have always given my vote to an alternative candidate/party. My personal thought is that the ruling party should not have the mandate to do whatever and however it decides or feels like doing.

I dislike the arrogance and high-handedness displayed by PAP LEEders. I hate the $$elf-$$erving attitude of many PAP LEEders. Whichever party forms the ruling Government, there has to be accountability. Check and balance CANNOT come from within the ruling political party. A creditable and responsible ruling political leader should ensure this requirement. This is for the ruling party to justify to the people who elected the leaders as their representatives.

As a non-partisan Singaporean, it saddens me to witness so much bickerings and back-stabbings among the many alternative parties here. Like me, there are many interested, concerned, but non-partisan Singaporeans who visit this virtual space to hopefully have a better feel and understanding. Is this virtual space a good representation of the real world out there? If yes, then are the party supporters truly representing their respective parties, or the views of their party leaders? How can a politician not know that character-assassination of a fellow politician is detrimental to one's own political party, ...unless there is another hidden objective!!!

I can understand why when my fellow Singaporeans do not want to vote for an alternative candidate/party. I can empathise with the losing candidate/party. It's sad...sad for everyone. How did top PAP LEEders like Dr Seet Am and BG G Yeo feel when they lost? If only they had self-reflected and changed before their Waterloo GE! It's beneficial to do a bit of self-reflection.

My humble opinion and blabbering as an interested, concerned but non-partisan [maybe slightly towards anti-ruling] Singaporean.

 

[Kopi0Kosong]

Come to a ruubish collection forum...
The host is anti- Chinese, back stabber and warmonger...
Nothing fruitful coming here...走吧...

'Nothing fruitful' is still fruitful.
Observing each and every alternative politician...I learn about...
Perseverance...不屈不挠
Alternative leaders soldier on and fight at every General Election.
Perseverance and sincerity shall prevail...

 

[zhihau]

The

But u still a civil servant.i have to question ur allegiance and agenda.

really? did you read my timely reminder? that's for all civil servants to read.

 

[zhihau]

'
Perseverance...不屈不挠
Alternative leaders soldier on and fight at every General Election.
Perseverance and sincerity shall prevail...

sounds very much like an old mantra I chant: The Sammyboy Spirit shall Prevail!

 

[jw5]

Recently watched an episode of "The Wonder Years" on Hits Channel. The protagonist Kevin had a new English teacher called Miss Shaw. She had some rather unorthodox methods of teaching which her class enjoyed, but which was frowned upon by a minority of the class (and their parents) and the school board. Some of things she encouraged the class to do was to read and discuss books which were not in the official curriculum reading list, to grade themselves, to write essays on what was on their minds at that moment or what they wanted the world to be like.............. generally things that were not based on curriculum and assessment.

Sad to say, the episode ended with Miss Shaw having a discussion with the principal, and her subsequent resignation. Evidently, she was not going to do things their way. Perhaps American bureaucracy in the 60s and 70s wasn't that much different from PAP in the 21st century.

 

[frenchbriefs]

The problem with IT is schools always teach the old obsolete stuff. I was shocked that back in the late 90s NTU grads studied turbo Pascal. N when they went to work their skills were already obsolete. These lectures etc insists on teaching old stuff bcos they can't or don't have the skill to teach the new stuff.

They are only outdated because u went to a obsolete school.im pretty sure there's no such problem at m.i.t or Stanford.

 

[zhihau]

They are only outdated because u went to a obsolete school.im pretty sure there's no such problem at m.i.t or Stanford.

Prof Andrew made Coursera popular, his dad recently gave a talk on future learning- the essence remains the same. Self directed learning will be the way.