Renault Fluence - Good or not?

[Forvendet]

Colt Plus, but sold it last July. If its a 2nd hand car, then I will budget it to at most $70k, dun think its worth it to buy 2nd hand car for 100k? -.-"

I'm driving a Toyota Vios now. Well, actually my wife does most of the driving since I drink. I only drive occasionally. It was bought new from Borneo Motors three years ago for a bit under $100k (inc. COE) and monthly instalment a bit under $700. Not much problem since.

During US campus days, we bought an used Toyota Camry, about three years old and costing only US$3,000 cash and carry. It served us well too. Those were young and wild days and I did have a minor accident. It cost me US$1,000 for the repairs on top of the insurance claims but it was my fault, not the car's fault. I think Toyota cars are very reliable and value for money. When we returned to Singapore, we sold it for US$2,000 at six years old.

 

[neddy]

Wise choice.

From a KIA insider, I can tell you that KIA has got better built cars these days comparable with the Japs. In fact, KIA is even better than parent Hyundai because they got better engineers than Hyundai but a Korean promise by KIA means that they cannot price their cars higher than peers at Hyundai.

As for Toyota, they really need to learn some car design from the Koreans.

148kw 2.4l Optima $37,000
Built for the notorious bumpy Aussie roads.

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How can Kia in top 5? though I love K5 Optima, LOL

 

[GoldenDragon]

Wise choice.

From a KIA insider, I can tell you that KIA has got better built cars these days comparable with the Japs. In fact, KIA is even better than parent Hyundai because they got better engineers than Hyundai but a Korean promise by KIA means that they cannot price their cars higher than peers at Hyundai.

As for Toyota, they really need to learn some car design from the Koreans.

Curves at the right places. Chio.

 

[Alamaking]

Hell where the f did I go missing this thread about Toyotas. LOL. Must be my slow brewing of my fish maw soup that made me miss this.

Anyway Alamaking "I really don't know what to say" 100k and so little choice in Singapore, please la I not suan you but I really don't know what to say about buying cars in Singapore now a days. I think better go for a reliable car la...........

Bor bian lah bro, no money leh.... :(, I dun need fancy cars, I just wanna buy what i can afford, LOL

 

[Alamaking]

I'm driving a Toyota Vios now. Well, actually my wife does most of the driving since I drink. I only drive occasionally. It was bought new from Borneo Motors three years ago for a bit under $100k (inc. COE) and monthly instalment a bit under $700. Not much problem since...........

Vios is a nice car, good consumption, but the interior is very dull.......

 

[Alamaking]

Wise choice.

From a KIA insider, I can tell you that KIA has got better built cars these days comparable with the Japs. In fact, KIA is even better than parent Hyundai because they got better engineers than Hyundai but a Korean promise by KIA means that they cannot price their cars higher than peers at Hyundai.

As for Toyota, they really need to learn some car design from the Koreans.

148kw 2.4l Optima $37,000
Built for the notorious bumpy Aussie roads.

Here only 2.0, selling at SGD128,000

 

[neddy]

Curves at the right places. Chio.

About 4-5 years ago, OZ car reviewers pity the bloke who had to test drive the Kia cars, these days, the reviewers enjoy test driving KIA cars so much that they do not return the cars on time. 1-2 weeks late!

For Kia, a lot of time spent on getting the suspension right for OZ driving conditions, esp the Sportage.

And Korean cars are no longer cheap! Some models are more expensive than Toyotas!

Eg 1.8l Elantra vs 1.8l Corolla

 

[Khun Ying Pojaman]

About 4-5 years ago, OZ car reviewers pity the bloke who had to test drive the Kia cars, these days, the reviewers enjoy test driving KIA cars so much that they do not return the cars on time. 1-2 weeks late!

For Kia, a lot of time spent on getting the suspension right for OZ driving conditions, esp the Sportage.

And Korean cars are no longer cheap! Some models are more expensive than Toyotas!

Eg 1.8l Elantra vs 1.8l Corolla

But KIA should choose a better name. Killed In Accident. No good leh.

 

[Froggy]

Bor bian lah bro, no money leh.... :(, I dun need fancy cars, I just wanna buy what i can afford, LOL

Alright but your French car looks pretty fancy bro

 

[Khun Ying Pojaman]

Heard of Luxgen ?

 

[Alamaking]

But KIA should choose a better name. Killed In Accident. No good leh.

Kia chief designer was the former Audi TT series designer leh, design is there, but the engine is quite bad, hard to overtake....

 

[neddy]

Here only 2.0, selling at SGD128,000

That is the problem. The way the tax system works is such that Singapore got under-powered cars.
Need to match the engine to the size of the cars.
Never mind, when go overseas for driving tours, go for the 2.4l engine.The experience is different!

 

[Alamaking]

Alright but your French car looks pretty fancy bro

Yah man.... look chio, but alamak... bros here said no good -_____-"

But Kia Optima my fav now, my dream car, lol

 

[HedgeTrader]

Bor bian lah bro, no money leh.... :(, I dun need fancy cars, I just wanna buy what i can afford, LOL

Vios is a nice car, good consumption, but the interior is very dull.......

Just get a car lah. You boh looi still hiam this interior hiam that exterior KNN LOL

 

[Agoraphobic]

Anyone drive this car?

Bud, todate I have owned eleven cars. Now, I will only buy Toyota, Honda, and maybe Korean (their reputation has risen a lot ever since the Hyundai Pony.)

I am no mechanic. Car problems I cannot DIY, have to send to workshop. If you own a Continental car, then you'll have to pay Continental prices.

Resist the marketing hype. COE, ten-year limit, high maintenance costs, better to be pragmatic.

Cheers!

 

[Khun Ying Pojaman]

Kia chief designer was the former Audi TT series designer leh, design is there, but the engine is quite bad, hard to overtake....

Don't take Korean practice of "name dropping" too seriously. You seriously believe the guy who designed Ferrari also designed this piece of crap ?

 

[Alamaking]

Just get a car lah. You boh looi still hiam this interior hiam that exterior KNN LOL

Must have both if possible mah.....

 

[Alamaking]

Don't take Korean practice of "name dropping" too seriously. You seriously believe the guy who designed Ferrari also designed this piece of crap ?

Ah Khun, its not rumoured, its official 1
http://www.kiamotors.com/experience-kia/design/chief-designofficer.aspx

 

[GoldenDragon]

Must have both if possible mah.....

Must have 3 - ai pee, ai che, ai tua liap nee?

 

[chonburifc]

Vios is a nice car, good consumption, but the interior is very dull.......

Not only interior dull, exterior also boring. My vios is 1.5 years old and only 30,000km. Really boring car to drive BUT seldom need to go petrol station. Good for city driving.

But KIA should choose a better name. Killed In Accident. No good leh.

The other one is Subaru (Su Ba Lu) hokkien translation is Lose only.

Heard of Luxgen ?

How come the front look like a CIVIC???