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Malay ashamed of her own race's spending habits (Acceptable?)

Jah_rastafar_I

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I hope so. My nonsense would be so boring without your correction. Thanks.

Your hide should be hung on a huge sacred tree like the mythical fleece in jason's quest.

Anyone whom obtains it gains immunity and protection +10000 against almost any known weapon of humanity. You see you are a valuable asset to mankind. :biggrin:
 

Ramseth

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Your hide should be hung on a huge sacred tree like the mythical fleece in jason's quest.

Anyone whom obtains it gains immunity and protection +10000 against almost any known weapon of humanity. You see you are a valuable asset to mankind. :biggrin:

So you're into Greek mythology too. I'm impressed.
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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So you're into Greek mythology too. I'm impressed.

hey hey hey let's not digress anyone should know about greek civilization after all i doubt there's a chinese equivalent of some mythical hide that protects the wearer other than greek mythology.


I am curious though what did you ingest or do to produce such a tough hide?
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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What do you want? Hawker, foodcourt or restaurant?

It's not what one ingests, it's what one digests.

:biggrin::biggrin:

well well but then following conventional logic you would usually digest what you ingest unless you mean to tell me you actually ingest undigestable materials like stones like what those sea turtles do so that they can sink to the bottom of the sea. I don't think so correct?


Indeed i am further convinced your hide is not of legend but a reality. Magnificent.
 

Velma

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it's understandable since in mudland the malays are really really racist and there is a case against that sort of racism unlike singapore. Yet i notice you don't seem to harbor that sort of hatred simply cos your parents suffered it.
In mudland, if you cannot speak Malay, all the civil servants in government offices will ignore your existence till you can speak Malay. And then there are taxes, you pay taxes but they still treat you like second-class citizens. So I can understand my parents' intense dislike of Malays. But to be fair, all these were caused by UMNO racist and hate policies.

Though my parents do suffer under such discrimination, I believe the (I think it is Chinese) saying that the feud should be kept to a single generation and never to trickle down to the next generation. Hence, my 'normal' attitude towards Malays, just treat them as though they are the same race as me. Neither do I wish my children to emulate my dislike of foreign kelings in years to come.
 

Ramseth

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In mudland, if you cannot speak Malay, all the civil servants in government offices will ignore your existence till you can speak Malay. And then there are taxes, you pay taxes but they still treat you like second-class citizens. So I can understand my parents' intense dislike of Malays. But to be fair, all these were caused by UMNO racist and hate policies.

Though my parents do suffer under such discrimination, I believe the (I think it is Chinese) saying that the feud should be kept to a single generation and never to trickle down to the next generation. Hence, my 'normal' attitude towards Malays, just treat them as though they are the same race as me. Neither do I wish my children to emulate my dislike of foreign kelings in years to come.

In Malaysia, all politicians (including Chinese, Indians and others of course) must be able to speak Malay at Parlimentary standards. Malaysian Parliamentary proceedings and debates are conducted in Malay.

Is that discrimination? I don't think so. Try standing for election or debating in UK Parliament or US Congress with a language other than English.

In fact, I'm very impressed with my DAP Chinese friends, they deserve to win their seats as they accept the fact that's Malaysia. They can conduct a Parliamentary debate with Malays in Malay fluently anytime. Jah_Rastafar_I would probably call it Chinese lack of confidence or betrayal of Chinese roots.
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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In Malaysia, all politicians (including Chinese, Indians and others of course) must be able to speak Malay at Parlimentary standards. Malaysian Parliamentary proceedings and debates are conducted in Malay.

Is that discrimination? I don't think so. Try standing for election or debating in UK Parliament or US Congress with a language other than English.

In fact, I'm very impressed with my DAP Chinese friends, they deserve to win their seats as they accept the fact that's Malaysia. They can conduct a Parliamentary debate with Malays in Malay fluently anytime. Jah_Rastafar_I would probably call it Chinese lack of confidence or betrayal of Chinese roots.

:biggrin: So this is a premptive strike bring up my name before i bring you to task.


Well unfortunately for you i don't just anyhow call up your name. I only do so when you make generalizations and they are mostly bad ones when they involve chinese and mind you really do love to make bad generalizations on them. Guess a chinese fella must have bullied you badly. Then again aren't you a chinese? You can always punch yourself in the face to take revenge. :biggrin:
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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In mudland, if you cannot speak Malay, all the civil servants in government offices will ignore your existence till you can speak Malay. And then there are taxes, you pay taxes but they still treat you like second-class citizens. So I can understand my parents' intense dislike of Malays. But to be fair, all these were caused by UMNO racist and hate policies.

Though my parents do suffer under such discrimination, I believe the (I think it is Chinese) saying that the feud should be kept to a single generation and never to trickle down to the next generation. Hence, my 'normal' attitude towards Malays, just treat them as though they are the same race as me. Neither do I wish my children to emulate my dislike of foreign kelings in years to come.


In singapore malays aren't treated like this. Yet somehow they'll bring their hatred with them everywhere. They probably even teach their kids to hate chinese since it occured to them. Every small thing they'll feel offended that's why in uniquely sg we have ppl complaining of racism and even feel offended when an aunty in a shop doesn't smile at them or when a small kid calls them a name.

I always contrast the racism experienced by chinese in other countries like mudland for eg vs the racism minorities face in sg and it's like day and night yet the chinese won't complain despite facing much greater racism. :eek::mad:
 

Ramseth

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:biggrin: So this is a premptive strike bring up my name before i bring you to task.

Well unfortunately for you i don't just anyhow call up your name. I only do so when you make generalizations and they are mostly bad ones when they involve chinese and mind you really do love to make bad generalizations on them. Guess a chinese fella must have bullied you badly. Then again aren't you a chinese? You can always punch yourself in the face to take revenge. :biggrin:

I'm Chinese. I don't bully people. I only hate it when fellow Chinese are too weak and got bullied, but refuse to face up to their own weakness and mistakes. I'd tell them straight in their face, like Ip Man slapped his disciple for turning Japanese translator. Who's the weakling? Who's the traitor? Certainly not the accuser who faces and points out the facts.

But Jah_Rastafar_I nuclear missile is very powerful. With my hide I also need to hide in nuclear shelter. :eek: :biggrin:
 

Velma

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In Malaysia, all politicians (including Chinese, Indians and others of course) must be able to speak Malay at Parlimentary standards. Malaysian Parliamentary proceedings and debates are conducted in Malay.

Is that discrimination? I don't think so. Try standing for election or debating in UK Parliament or US Congress with a language other than English.

In fact, I'm very impressed with my DAP Chinese friends, they deserve to win their seats as they accept the fact that's Malaysia. They can conduct a Parliamentary debate with Malays in Malay fluently anytime. Jah_Rastafar_I would probably call it Chinese lack of confidence or betrayal of Chinese roots.

I agree that all races are to adhere to the national language of the host nation, just like how some immigrants in Oz refuse to converse in English and hence, are the target of the locals and cry 'foul'.

But there is a difference between the situation in Western English-speaking countries and Malaysia.

In Australia or US, as long as you are a citizen, you are entitled to welfare benefits as long as you pay taxes. In Malaysia, only Malays are entitled to such benefits, despite Chinese and Indian paying same taxes.

In Australia or US, as long as you work hard and achieve results, you can shine too. Whereas in Malaysia, even if a Chinese or Indian score better marks than a Malay student, the Malay student will be given priority just because he is a Malay.

The Malays in Malaysia were involved in the May 13th 1969 incident and killed some Chinese. (Of course, there were cases of Malay villagers helping Chinese). I don't remember the Australians or Yanks carrying out systematic killings of Chinese in their years.

In Australia or US, as long as you bother to integrate, people there will treat you like locals and sometimes stand up for your rights. (See the Arizona protests over the bill)

In Malaysia, you bother to integrate and can speak fluent Malay, government say "Sorry kawan, but you are not bumiputera. No benefits for you cause your ancestors are pentatangs."


Explains the exodus of Malaysian Chinese to foreign lands. Poor Malayisan Chinese will move to Singapore, the richer ones to Australia or NZ, and the mega-rich to USA. Only the dirt-poor stays on.
 

Velma

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In singapore malays aren't treated like this. Yet somehow they'll bring their hatred with them everywhere. They probably even teach their kids to hate chinese since it occured to them. Every small thing they'll feel offended that's why in uniquely sg we have ppl complaining of racism and even feel offended when an aunty in a shop doesn't smile at them or when a small kid calls them a name.

I always contrast the racism experienced by chinese in other countries like mudland for eg vs the racism minorities face in sg and it's like day and night yet the chinese won't complain despite facing much greater racism. :eek::mad:

The Malays here, I admit, are extremely sensitive. There are extremist Chinese in SG that put down Malays, but they don't seem to comprehend that for every extremist Chinese, there are 50 moderate Chinese who are open to all races.

Contrast this to local-born Indians, they are always the butt of our jokes and they know we like to mimic their accent but yet, you don't see them file charges under Sedition Act or anything. They just laugh it off.

No wonder I see more Chinese/Indian friendships and brotherhoods compared to Chinese/Malay brotherhoods.
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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I'm talking nonsense need to fart from my mouth again *pooooooooottttttttttttttttttt*

OMG ram why you totally change the subject about chinese too afraid to face up to anything when it isn't even what we're discussing about. it's about you making all sorts of generalizations especially bad ones on chinese. :rolleyes:


My strikes where got nuclear? Your legendary hide is so well known far and wide. Is indeed living up to its name.
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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I agree that all races are to adhere to the national language of the host nation, just like how some immigrants in Oz refuse to converse in English and hence, are the target of the locals and cry 'foul'.

But there is a difference between the situation in Western English-speaking countries and Malaysia.

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you know this really pisses me off is that nobody tries to speak up more for this type of crap occuring. Yeah okay ok non malays are invaders invading malay land. :rolleyes: Yet non malay malaysians have contributed to malaysian society by paying taxes and also to the culture therefore what's up with this kind of treatment?

Yet what pisses me off is that other chinese seem so nonchalent about it. It's like i'm the only one that observes this type of double standard and it's allowed to be perpetuated.


In fact it seems that chinese only know how to bash their own kind. Yeah let the non malaysians especially chinese get killed by japs or get bullied or killed in indon or mudland and ignore it. Yet if a non chinese like a malay so much as gets stared wrongly in singapore they'll be carrying the malays balls ready to lay down their life for him and in the process still get treated worse that his other malay friends or get made use by him.
 
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