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Serious Lim Tean's New Party Will Return CPF at 55
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There is a thing called personal responsibility....but hey u spend the money n u drop dead fine as u don't have to worry about the next meal. But if u act irresponsibly..than go for soylent Green. But don't kpkb n expect tax payer bail outs
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The first thing you learn abt tis Gahman, u die ur Business. Thama Botak openly hve said, we do not provide free lunch.
No one is going to take him seriously unless he can tell us how is he going to achieve those objectives. Opposition politicians need to get real and not try to pull a fast one.
Fight within your means and ability . Voters can see if you are just playing to the gallery or not.
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Poor Singaporeans have money but cannot touch. To overcome this setback, Singaporeans shall continually curse at the PAP LEEders until the day they are voted out or when CPF withdrawal age is reverted to 55 years old.
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This emperor has no heart. If he can even destroy his own famiLEE members, do you think he will realLEE care about the insignificant others?
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Well-said. Allow me to shout out your sentiments, which are also representations of many a Singaporean, for all to hear, especially to the unscrupulous, manipulative and $$$elf-$$$erving PAP LEEders.
How many Sporeans really believe that Sporeans will squander their CPF if they ever get their hands on it?
I suspect many of those who warn about this have been brainwashed by PAP propaganda. Let me ask these people who believe the propaganda whether you would do this?
There are so many reasons people need $: pay off mortgage, car loan, help pay children education, .... Some may want to use their $ to go on holiday, move to cheaper places like JB, Thailand, Indonesia, ... Other seniors may want to deposit their money into fixed deposits & get a better return.
I suspect many of those who warn about this have been brainwashed by PAP propaganda. Let me ask these people who believe the propaganda whether you would do this?
There are so many reasons people need $: pay off mortgage, car loan, help pay children education, .... Some may want to use their $ to go on holiday, move to cheaper places like JB, Thailand, Indonesia, ... Other seniors may want to deposit their money into fixed deposits & get a better return.
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Tat why pap want to hold on to the money. U move it to Batam..it's outflow. Pap hates it
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PAP LEEders have never had the welfare of Singaporeans at heart. They stage to fit and fix.
Can we believe and trust LEEders who advise people not to gamble but go about setting up gambling houses and betting centres all over the country?
It's time for Singaporeans to wake up to the evil intentions and blood-sucking ways of the $$$elf-$$$erving LEEders.
BUY A BATAM WIFE FOR RM2.70, IT IS HASSLE FREE
What can you get for 27 sen? What about RM2.70?
Probably a sweet for the former and a can of soft drink for the latter.
But it seems one can get a wife for that amount if you know where to look.
Malay daily Harian Metro reported that Malaysian men are flocking to Batam, Indonesia, to get extra wives in secret, for between RP1,000 and RP10,000.
Such union is what the locals there refer to as “Nikah siri” -- a religious but unregistered marriage not recognised by the Indonesian Marriage Law.
It is usually done in secret for reasons ranging from polygamy to poverty, and a child born out of this union is considered illegitimate.
In case of a divorce, the wife cannot sue for maintenance from her husband and if he dies, neither can she claim inheritance.
Such shaky foundation in a marriage doesn’t seem to deter Malaysian men from flocking to the island, located just some 20km off Singapore’s south coast.
The daily interviewed a “Jurunikah” (marriage official), a man known as Pak Ayubi in his 60s, for the story. He is also an imam in a mosque in Batam and he conducts many of these marriages.
According to him, no documents or approval from the courts were needed for a man to take extra wives there. The only thing needed is consent from two consenting adults.
The attendance of family members or witnesses from the girl’s side is a bonus.
According to Ayubi, personnel from various Malaysian security agencies are his biggest clients.
The report added that taxi drivers on the island are more than willing to point Malaysian and Singaporean men who are looking to get hitched there to the right direction.
Apart from playing match-maker, Ayubi also provides accommodation to newly married couples, by renting out any of the 20 houses he owns around the mosque where he works.
“This is my way to contribute to prevent sex out of wedlock,” Harian Metro quoted him as saying.
The phenomenon of married men taking wives in Batam is almost a threat to Singaporean marriages if news reports from the republic island are anything to go by, but it seems that the trend has started catching up on our shores.
Many of these men are married in their home countries – some with teenage children – while they have wives and kids in Batam, who they visit on weekends.
In some cases, some of the Indonesian women are former sex workers or those from other districts who come to Batam to work jobs that pay meagre (by Malaysian and Singaporean standards) salaries, to better their lives.
Most of these second (or third or fourth) wives are aware that they share their lives with another unseen woman overseas but most of them are powerless to do anything about it or ignore it.
Some are married to men twice their age but some interviews have quoted “Batam wives” as saying that they don’t mind the age gap, as the money given by their foreign husbands enables them to experience luxuries that they never had before.
Although there are cases where these men had divided their times equally between their two homes (in secret) and some of them retiring for good in Batam, there are also sad endings for the women.
Some of them, usually the young ones, fall prey to sweet talkers who promise the sun and the moon, only to disappear after the girl gets pregnant. She is then left to fend for herself and her illegitimate child.
It is easy to take a moral high ground in this case but legally, it is hard to pinpoint a fault.
A reminder to Malaysian wives – if your husband is making frequent trips to Batam on weekends or every fortnightly for “business” or “golf” trips, it would be worth checking what he is up to.
What can you get for 27 sen? What about RM2.70?
Probably a sweet for the former and a can of soft drink for the latter.
But it seems one can get a wife for that amount if you know where to look.
Malay daily Harian Metro reported that Malaysian men are flocking to Batam, Indonesia, to get extra wives in secret, for between RP1,000 and RP10,000.
Such union is what the locals there refer to as “Nikah siri” -- a religious but unregistered marriage not recognised by the Indonesian Marriage Law.
It is usually done in secret for reasons ranging from polygamy to poverty, and a child born out of this union is considered illegitimate.
In case of a divorce, the wife cannot sue for maintenance from her husband and if he dies, neither can she claim inheritance.
Such shaky foundation in a marriage doesn’t seem to deter Malaysian men from flocking to the island, located just some 20km off Singapore’s south coast.
The daily interviewed a “Jurunikah” (marriage official), a man known as Pak Ayubi in his 60s, for the story. He is also an imam in a mosque in Batam and he conducts many of these marriages.
According to him, no documents or approval from the courts were needed for a man to take extra wives there. The only thing needed is consent from two consenting adults.
The attendance of family members or witnesses from the girl’s side is a bonus.
According to Ayubi, personnel from various Malaysian security agencies are his biggest clients.
The report added that taxi drivers on the island are more than willing to point Malaysian and Singaporean men who are looking to get hitched there to the right direction.
Apart from playing match-maker, Ayubi also provides accommodation to newly married couples, by renting out any of the 20 houses he owns around the mosque where he works.
“This is my way to contribute to prevent sex out of wedlock,” Harian Metro quoted him as saying.
The phenomenon of married men taking wives in Batam is almost a threat to Singaporean marriages if news reports from the republic island are anything to go by, but it seems that the trend has started catching up on our shores.
Many of these men are married in their home countries – some with teenage children – while they have wives and kids in Batam, who they visit on weekends.
In some cases, some of the Indonesian women are former sex workers or those from other districts who come to Batam to work jobs that pay meagre (by Malaysian and Singaporean standards) salaries, to better their lives.
Most of these second (or third or fourth) wives are aware that they share their lives with another unseen woman overseas but most of them are powerless to do anything about it or ignore it.
Some are married to men twice their age but some interviews have quoted “Batam wives” as saying that they don’t mind the age gap, as the money given by their foreign husbands enables them to experience luxuries that they never had before.
Although there are cases where these men had divided their times equally between their two homes (in secret) and some of them retiring for good in Batam, there are also sad endings for the women.
Some of them, usually the young ones, fall prey to sweet talkers who promise the sun and the moon, only to disappear after the girl gets pregnant. She is then left to fend for herself and her illegitimate child.
It is easy to take a moral high ground in this case but legally, it is hard to pinpoint a fault.
A reminder to Malaysian wives – if your husband is making frequent trips to Batam on weekends or every fortnightly for “business” or “golf” trips, it would be worth checking what he is up to.
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PAP wants and needs to hold on to the people's money regardless of anything or anyone.
When a Prime Minister is also the Minister for Finance and the country's monetary matters have to be managed and handled by members of the FamiLEE bear testimonies to what is not made known to the people of Singapore.
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Song Song To Jurong
This Lim Chap 's is going to show all those sleeping Opp Parties a thing or two... just watch...
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/oppositio...mation-new-peoples-voice-party-072030703.html
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70% voted for it
https://ro.uow.edu.au
"Love, Sex and the Spaces In-between: Kepri Wives and their Cross-border Husbands
Lenore Lyons and Michele Ford
[...]Our research into marriages that take place between Singaporean men and Indonesian women living in the Riau Islands are more accurately described as ‘cross-border’ marriages in the sense that they continue to traverse the national border. In these cases, neither spouse migrates after marriage: instead, husband and wife continue to reside in their country of origin. In the Riau Islands, this experience is a particular product of life in the Indonesia-Singapore-Malaysia borderlands. The close physical proximity of Singapore, Peninsular Malaysia and the Riau Islands means that the couples can see each other regularly while at the same time taking advantage of the opportunities presented by living on different sides of the border.
For working-class men and women who are economically (and in some cases socially) marginalized in their countries of birth, these cross-border marriages allow them to experience a degree of upward class mobility in Indonesia. While the men’s class position in their home country does not change, their wives and children are able to take advantage of the differential exchange rate between the two nations to live a lower middle-class lifestyle across the border. The men themselves get to enjoy this lifestyle during their intermittent visits.[...]
"Love, Sex and the Spaces In-between: Kepri Wives and their Cross-border Husbands
Lenore Lyons and Michele Ford
[...]Our research into marriages that take place between Singaporean men and Indonesian women living in the Riau Islands are more accurately described as ‘cross-border’ marriages in the sense that they continue to traverse the national border. In these cases, neither spouse migrates after marriage: instead, husband and wife continue to reside in their country of origin. In the Riau Islands, this experience is a particular product of life in the Indonesia-Singapore-Malaysia borderlands. The close physical proximity of Singapore, Peninsular Malaysia and the Riau Islands means that the couples can see each other regularly while at the same time taking advantage of the opportunities presented by living on different sides of the border.
For working-class men and women who are economically (and in some cases socially) marginalized in their countries of birth, these cross-border marriages allow them to experience a degree of upward class mobility in Indonesia. While the men’s class position in their home country does not change, their wives and children are able to take advantage of the differential exchange rate between the two nations to live a lower middle-class lifestyle across the border. The men themselves get to enjoy this lifestyle during their intermittent visits.[...]
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[...] The presence of prostitution in the islands shapes international marriage practices in many ways. The close proximity of the islands to Singapore in particular has given rise to the formation of longterm relationships between Singaporean men and sex workers, so-called ‘second wives’ or ‘Batam wives’. The use of the term ‘wife’ to describe these relationships does not infer that it is a formalised or legal marriage but implies that the relationship extends beyond a casual sexual encounter to include the provision of a home (bought or rented by the Singaporean ‘husband’) and an allowance. In Indonesia local government crackdowns on the simpanan (lit. kept women) of foreign men have meant that the women are often the target of harassment by local authorities.
To avoid these problems, some couples perform a religious or customary marriage; however, these marriages are not considered to be legal by either the Indonesian or Singaporean governments unless they are presided over by a recognized Solemniser of Marriages and a legal Notice of Marriage has been approved by the relevant authority. It should be noted here that not all couples enter into a religious marriage simply to avoid harassment. Single Singaporean men may agree to a religious ceremony (rather than a legal marriage) with their Indonesian wives because they want to be married in the eyes of God and/or the community, but want to keep the marriage a secret from their Singaporean families who may not approve of their choice of marriage partner (Arshad, 2003).[...]
[...] The presence of prostitution in the islands shapes international marriage practices in many ways. The close proximity of the islands to Singapore in particular has given rise to the formation of longterm relationships between Singaporean men and sex workers, so-called ‘second wives’ or ‘Batam wives’. The use of the term ‘wife’ to describe these relationships does not infer that it is a formalised or legal marriage but implies that the relationship extends beyond a casual sexual encounter to include the provision of a home (bought or rented by the Singaporean ‘husband’) and an allowance. In Indonesia local government crackdowns on the simpanan (lit. kept women) of foreign men have meant that the women are often the target of harassment by local authorities.
To avoid these problems, some couples perform a religious or customary marriage; however, these marriages are not considered to be legal by either the Indonesian or Singaporean governments unless they are presided over by a recognized Solemniser of Marriages and a legal Notice of Marriage has been approved by the relevant authority. It should be noted here that not all couples enter into a religious marriage simply to avoid harassment. Single Singaporean men may agree to a religious ceremony (rather than a legal marriage) with their Indonesian wives because they want to be married in the eyes of God and/or the community, but want to keep the marriage a secret from their Singaporean families who may not approve of their choice of marriage partner (Arshad, 2003).[...]
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These sort of marriages are called 'preventing sex out of wedlock'. It's as laughable as claiming 50 year old man fucking 9 year old girl ain't pedophilia.
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[...] The formation of mistress relationships, sometimes involving religious or customary marriage rites, provides sex workers with a steady income and a place to live. However, the instability of these relationships often means that for the women a return to sex work is a common outcome. For their foreign ‘husbands’, mistress relationships may be more costly than casual sexual encounters, but the stability and intimacy of a long-term relationship brings with it other benefits, including the health and psychological benefits of regular contact with a single partner as well as social prestige. Many men prefer mistress arrangements because they dislike the negotiations and clear monetary transactions involved in casual paid sex. They may also believe that by having a single partner they are less likely to contract a sexually transmitted disease.
While the men may assume that a mistress relationship implies that they have sole sexual access to their ‘wives’, many women continue to supplement their incomes through paid casual sex with other men. For some women these ‘extramarital’ relationships may act as a safety net in case their primary relationship dissolves. Other women may continue to have sexual relationships with their pre-existing legal husbands, boyfriends or pimps. Although such relationships are clearly based on an economic transaction in which neither partner has an expectation of a permanent arrangement, many couples express genuine affection for each other. At the same time, while the lack of legal standing means that neither the woman nor man can be charged with bigamy, a further implication of these unions is that neither partner has legal recourse in relation to property, custody of children, or maintenance when the relationship ends (see Vasoo and Yap, 1999; Arshad, 2003)[...]
[...] The formation of mistress relationships, sometimes involving religious or customary marriage rites, provides sex workers with a steady income and a place to live. However, the instability of these relationships often means that for the women a return to sex work is a common outcome. For their foreign ‘husbands’, mistress relationships may be more costly than casual sexual encounters, but the stability and intimacy of a long-term relationship brings with it other benefits, including the health and psychological benefits of regular contact with a single partner as well as social prestige. Many men prefer mistress arrangements because they dislike the negotiations and clear monetary transactions involved in casual paid sex. They may also believe that by having a single partner they are less likely to contract a sexually transmitted disease.
While the men may assume that a mistress relationship implies that they have sole sexual access to their ‘wives’, many women continue to supplement their incomes through paid casual sex with other men. For some women these ‘extramarital’ relationships may act as a safety net in case their primary relationship dissolves. Other women may continue to have sexual relationships with their pre-existing legal husbands, boyfriends or pimps. Although such relationships are clearly based on an economic transaction in which neither partner has an expectation of a permanent arrangement, many couples express genuine affection for each other. At the same time, while the lack of legal standing means that neither the woman nor man can be charged with bigamy, a further implication of these unions is that neither partner has legal recourse in relation to property, custody of children, or maintenance when the relationship ends (see Vasoo and Yap, 1999; Arshad, 2003)[...]
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