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Serious How the Japanese treated their PoW
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Nothing much to debate here unless you have been there and done that, no point pulling out random data from the Internet when we do not even know its source, how was it compiled, and the intention in the first place...yesterday I was asking a friend of mine would you like to have longevity or immortality so that you can watch the world crash and burn...his reply was I am Nihilistic lol...take care of your own health, build up your wealth, spend more time with both the ones you love and hate and strike out that bucket list
That is too quick for them
Probably your ancestors were comfort women serving the Jap soldiers...
In case you're not aware! The recent Hamas attacked on Israel on 07Oct, so many videos n photos were taken by the Hamas during the massacre...
It should never be forgotten that the Taiwanese n Koreans who served in the nip army were more cruel than the nips themselves and funny that they never faced persecution after the war ..
Lin De-hua (林德華), World War Two vet and keeper of war records at
Taichung's War Shrine (台中寶學寺)
In literature regarding the topic, much has been made about the brutality of Taiwanese guards at the POW camps located in Taiwan and other places across Southeast Asia during World War II. The camps in Taiwan mainly held British and Commonwealth troops captured with the fall of Singapore in February 1942. A handful of Americans also ended up here, shipped in from the Philippines after they went down in April 1942. I'll put up a few accounts of what was happening to the POWs:
"We christened [the Taiwanese guards] the 'Runabouts' or 'Goons.' They seemed to be the lowest type in the army. Very young, they jumped at the commands of the lowliest [of] Japanese privates, who did not hesitate to slap them in the face. Face slapping seemed to be allowed from officer down through NCOs to privates in the Japanese Army. The Formosans were below privates and as we soon learnt, we were at the end of the line . . . These young 'Runabouts' reveled in their power, and they loved to rush into the hut, trying to catch prisoners too slow in bowing and coming to attention." - Jack Edwards, British POW at the Kinkaseki (金瓜石) and Hsintien (新店) camps
"They certainly went to great lengths to please their masters; one way in which this manifested itself was their treatment of us, the prisoners. They had the right to beat us, and this they did at the least provocation. They were like dangerous children attempting to ape their dangerous parents." - Arthur Titherington, British POW at the Kinkaseki (金瓜石) and Hsintien (新店) camps
"The 'Runabouts' were also given nicknames: 'The Christian" . . . Rampu or 'Lampu,' because one day he bashed all of us while pointing to a lamp, Rampu (he was an ugly vicious character who seemed to grunt instead of talk) and 'Scarface' or 'The Mad Carpenter,' because he had an old scar on his face, and was in charge of the prisoners assigned to carpentry repairs (he had a violent temper and a vicious punch, as I found to my cost in the first days)." - Jack Edwards
"[Taiwanese guards] were just as cruel. They emulated the Japs very well. The guards would strike you for the most trivial things. You had to stand at attention while they hit your head with their fist. If you didn't, trying to dodge it, then you'd end up with a rifle butt on your head or on the ground while getting kicked. I saw them murder a man, hit [him] on the head with a sword scabbard -- he died that night from the wounds." - Jack Butterworth, British POW at the Kinkaseki (金瓜石) and Hsintien (新店) camps
"In April, 1943 that changed [at the POW camp in Sandakan, Borneo] with the arrival of Formosan (now Taiwan) guards. The Formosans, like the Koreans in other camps, were brutal . . . My gang would be working and then would be suddenly told to stop. The men would then be stood with their arms outstretched horizontally, shoulder high, facing the sun without hats. The guards would be formed into two sections, one standing back with rifles and the others doing the actual beating. They would walk along . . . and smack us underneath the arms, across the ribs and back. They would give each man a couple of bashes -- if they whimpered or flinched they would get more." - POW, name not recorded
It seems officers interned in the various camps also suffered. Major General Jonathan Wainwright of the US, who was left behind by a fleeing Douglas MacArthur to surrender the Philippines, was for a while at a camp in Pingtung. Dealing with diarrhea one day, he tried to make a dash for the latrine. Almost there, a Taiwanese guard called him to attention and scolded him for not bowing. As a member of the cavalry, Wainwright had become bow-legged, so much so that his legs "looked like warped bamboo" (Daws, Gavan. Prisoners of the Japanese: POWs of World War II in the Pacific. 97). Taking note, the guard jabbed at them with his bayonet and began to laugh. When Wainwright tried to hold his knees together, his feet splayed out. Amused, the guard jammed his legs together and let go. With a scrunched up face, the American general was forced to bear these antics, all the while struggling not to dirty his pants.
Were these acts simply the expected consequences of war? War-atrocity investigators did not seem to think so. In 1945-46, many of the Runabouts were themselves incarcerated at the very POW camps where the shenanigans occurred while evidence was being collected to unknot the story. All told, 173 Taiwanese individuals, including many of the POW-camp guards, were charged with war crimes. Of the 173, 26 were executed for their conduct.
In trying to figure out why Taiwanese guards behaved as they did (as part of my master's thesis), I talked to Lin De-hua (pictured above), a World War II veteran himself and keeper of records at Taichung's war shrine. The following is what I came away with:
1. Taiwanese conscripts, as Edwards points out, were at the bottom of the food chain. The pressure of their situation on occasion brought out the worst in them. Beating up on POWs served as a kind of release.
2. Take this job and shove it: Taiwanese conscripts serving in Taiwan did not receive pay. The guards blamed the POWs. Simply put, no POWs meant "bye bye, crummy job."
3. The guards saw the POWs as an obstacle. They were the reason the guards could not return to their homes.
4. Taiwanese guards were also bullied. Since they experienced violence on a regular basis (face slapping and so on), they assumed it was normal or even okay. To play the devil's advocate, I think I'll point out that this order, given by the Chief of Prisoner of War Camps in Tokyo to the Chief of Staff of the Taiwan Army in a letter dated August 20, 1945 (or six days after the Japanese surrender) was used as evidence by the International Prosecution Section of the British Division 2011 (labeled Exhibit J): "Personnel who mistreat soldiers of war and internees or who are held in extremely bad sentiment by them are permitted to take care of it by transferring or by fleeing without a trace." Many of the guards took this advice. The guards, and the Japanese military for that matter, had to have known their behavior was wrong and this detail seems to support just that.
5. The worst of the Taiwanese recruits became guards. The best were sent out into Asia to fight. According to Lin, Taiwanese boys were typically drafted at 16 or 17 years of age. Before receiving official conscription notices, called pink slips, which came from the local police station via their bao jia (保甲) head, all male adolescents underwent three physicals. In addition to having their health checked, administrators subjected the youngsters to various fitness exams to test strength and endurance. Upon being conscripted, Taiwanese males were sorted for combat or homeland defense based on these tests as well as their school grades. Lin says kids actually competed to be chosen for the front lines. Why? While combat was obviously considered more dangerous, it was not without its perks. Combat soldiers were the only conscripts that were paid. Soldiers sent off to the front could in certain instances (such as pilots) achieve rank while those who remained, as already mentioned, could not. Making the grade translated into prestige. As a result, the strongest and the brightest served abroad. The dregs went on to distinction as 'Runabouts' and what have you.
6. From October 1944 until August 1945, Taiwan was bombed almost daily. Around 75 percent of the colony's infrastructure was destroyed and many innocent civilians died. This had to have been annoying.
7. Some people are just sadistic. Every country has its fair share of Runabouts and Goons.
Taiwanese Guards at POW Camps
Lin De-hua (林德華), World War Two vet and keeper of war records at
Taichung's War Shrine (台中寶學寺)
In literature regarding the topic, much has been made about the brutality of Taiwanese guards at the POW camps located in Taiwan and other places across Southeast Asia during World War II. The camps in Taiwan mainly held British and Commonwealth troops captured with the fall of Singapore in February 1942. A handful of Americans also ended up here, shipped in from the Philippines after they went down in April 1942. I'll put up a few accounts of what was happening to the POWs:
"We christened [the Taiwanese guards] the 'Runabouts' or 'Goons.' They seemed to be the lowest type in the army. Very young, they jumped at the commands of the lowliest [of] Japanese privates, who did not hesitate to slap them in the face. Face slapping seemed to be allowed from officer down through NCOs to privates in the Japanese Army. The Formosans were below privates and as we soon learnt, we were at the end of the line . . . These young 'Runabouts' reveled in their power, and they loved to rush into the hut, trying to catch prisoners too slow in bowing and coming to attention." - Jack Edwards, British POW at the Kinkaseki (金瓜石) and Hsintien (新店) camps
"They certainly went to great lengths to please their masters; one way in which this manifested itself was their treatment of us, the prisoners. They had the right to beat us, and this they did at the least provocation. They were like dangerous children attempting to ape their dangerous parents." - Arthur Titherington, British POW at the Kinkaseki (金瓜石) and Hsintien (新店) camps
"The 'Runabouts' were also given nicknames: 'The Christian" . . . Rampu or 'Lampu,' because one day he bashed all of us while pointing to a lamp, Rampu (he was an ugly vicious character who seemed to grunt instead of talk) and 'Scarface' or 'The Mad Carpenter,' because he had an old scar on his face, and was in charge of the prisoners assigned to carpentry repairs (he had a violent temper and a vicious punch, as I found to my cost in the first days)." - Jack Edwards
"[Taiwanese guards] were just as cruel. They emulated the Japs very well. The guards would strike you for the most trivial things. You had to stand at attention while they hit your head with their fist. If you didn't, trying to dodge it, then you'd end up with a rifle butt on your head or on the ground while getting kicked. I saw them murder a man, hit [him] on the head with a sword scabbard -- he died that night from the wounds." - Jack Butterworth, British POW at the Kinkaseki (金瓜石) and Hsintien (新店) camps
"In April, 1943 that changed [at the POW camp in Sandakan, Borneo] with the arrival of Formosan (now Taiwan) guards. The Formosans, like the Koreans in other camps, were brutal . . . My gang would be working and then would be suddenly told to stop. The men would then be stood with their arms outstretched horizontally, shoulder high, facing the sun without hats. The guards would be formed into two sections, one standing back with rifles and the others doing the actual beating. They would walk along . . . and smack us underneath the arms, across the ribs and back. They would give each man a couple of bashes -- if they whimpered or flinched they would get more." - POW, name not recorded
It seems officers interned in the various camps also suffered. Major General Jonathan Wainwright of the US, who was left behind by a fleeing Douglas MacArthur to surrender the Philippines, was for a while at a camp in Pingtung. Dealing with diarrhea one day, he tried to make a dash for the latrine. Almost there, a Taiwanese guard called him to attention and scolded him for not bowing. As a member of the cavalry, Wainwright had become bow-legged, so much so that his legs "looked like warped bamboo" (Daws, Gavan. Prisoners of the Japanese: POWs of World War II in the Pacific. 97). Taking note, the guard jabbed at them with his bayonet and began to laugh. When Wainwright tried to hold his knees together, his feet splayed out. Amused, the guard jammed his legs together and let go. With a scrunched up face, the American general was forced to bear these antics, all the while struggling not to dirty his pants.
Were these acts simply the expected consequences of war? War-atrocity investigators did not seem to think so. In 1945-46, many of the Runabouts were themselves incarcerated at the very POW camps where the shenanigans occurred while evidence was being collected to unknot the story. All told, 173 Taiwanese individuals, including many of the POW-camp guards, were charged with war crimes. Of the 173, 26 were executed for their conduct.
In trying to figure out why Taiwanese guards behaved as they did (as part of my master's thesis), I talked to Lin De-hua (pictured above), a World War II veteran himself and keeper of records at Taichung's war shrine. The following is what I came away with:
1. Taiwanese conscripts, as Edwards points out, were at the bottom of the food chain. The pressure of their situation on occasion brought out the worst in them. Beating up on POWs served as a kind of release.
2. Take this job and shove it: Taiwanese conscripts serving in Taiwan did not receive pay. The guards blamed the POWs. Simply put, no POWs meant "bye bye, crummy job."
3. The guards saw the POWs as an obstacle. They were the reason the guards could not return to their homes.
4. Taiwanese guards were also bullied. Since they experienced violence on a regular basis (face slapping and so on), they assumed it was normal or even okay. To play the devil's advocate, I think I'll point out that this order, given by the Chief of Prisoner of War Camps in Tokyo to the Chief of Staff of the Taiwan Army in a letter dated August 20, 1945 (or six days after the Japanese surrender) was used as evidence by the International Prosecution Section of the British Division 2011 (labeled Exhibit J): "Personnel who mistreat soldiers of war and internees or who are held in extremely bad sentiment by them are permitted to take care of it by transferring or by fleeing without a trace." Many of the guards took this advice. The guards, and the Japanese military for that matter, had to have known their behavior was wrong and this detail seems to support just that.
5. The worst of the Taiwanese recruits became guards. The best were sent out into Asia to fight. According to Lin, Taiwanese boys were typically drafted at 16 or 17 years of age. Before receiving official conscription notices, called pink slips, which came from the local police station via their bao jia (保甲) head, all male adolescents underwent three physicals. In addition to having their health checked, administrators subjected the youngsters to various fitness exams to test strength and endurance. Upon being conscripted, Taiwanese males were sorted for combat or homeland defense based on these tests as well as their school grades. Lin says kids actually competed to be chosen for the front lines. Why? While combat was obviously considered more dangerous, it was not without its perks. Combat soldiers were the only conscripts that were paid. Soldiers sent off to the front could in certain instances (such as pilots) achieve rank while those who remained, as already mentioned, could not. Making the grade translated into prestige. As a result, the strongest and the brightest served abroad. The dregs went on to distinction as 'Runabouts' and what have you.
6. From October 1944 until August 1945, Taiwan was bombed almost daily. Around 75 percent of the colony's infrastructure was destroyed and many innocent civilians died. This had to have been annoying.
7. Some people are just sadistic. Every country has its fair share of Runabouts and Goons.
So you take your revenge and kill babies
Very brave indeed - only when babies are involved.
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What do u mean his ancestors. He likes to service Jap soldiers now too.
You fucking delusional as fuck. I'm not in Palestine nor Israel. Maybe I'II kill your babies coz to stop the stupid genes from reproducing. Think your Turban is too heavy and it stops the blood from circulating to your brain. Never knew the Guru has such stupid follower in his faith.So you take your revenge and kill babies
Very brave indeed - only when babies are involved.
https://www.france24.com/en/video/2...reject-having-them-break-into-to-their-border
Egyptian people 'sympathetic' to Palestinians but reject having them 'break into to their border'
Issued on: 16/10/2023 - 10:56Modified: 16/10/2023 - 11:39
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More than one million people have fled their homes in Gaza in scenes of chaos and despair as Israel bombarded the Hamas-ruled territory and continued massing troops Monday in preparation for a full-blown ground invasion. Israel declared war on the Islamist group a day after waves of its fighters broke through the heavily fortified border on October 7, shooting, stabbing and burning to death more than 1,400 people, most of them civilians. After it suffered the deadliest attack in its history, Israel unleashed a relentless bombing campaign of the Gaza Strip that has flattened neighbourhoods and killed at least 2,670 people, mainly civilians. Following an Israeli order to move to the south of the Gaza Strip, people have fled their homes in the north of the enclave to seek shelter wherever they can, including on the streets and in UN-run schools. Gazans are effectively trapped, with Israeli-controlled crossings closed and Egypt also having shut the Rafah border in the south. For more on the dire situation rapidly unfolding for the Palestinians in Gaza, FRANCE 24's François Picard is joined by Egyptian Journalist and Security Analyst Mohannad Sabry.
Egyptian people 'sympathetic' to Palestinians but reject having them 'break into to their border' 
Issued on: 16/10/2023 - 10:56Modified: 16/10/2023 - 11:39Video by:François PICARDFollow
More than one million people have fled their homes in Gaza in scenes of chaos and despair as Israel bombarded the Hamas-ruled territory and continued massing troops Monday in preparation for a full-blown ground invasion. Israel declared war on the Islamist group a day after waves of its fighters broke through the heavily fortified border on October 7, shooting, stabbing and burning to death more than 1,400 people, most of them civilians. After it suffered the deadliest attack in its history, Israel unleashed a relentless bombing campaign of the Gaza Strip that has flattened neighbourhoods and killed at least 2,670 people, mainly civilians. Following an Israeli order to move to the south of the Gaza Strip, people have fled their homes in the north of the enclave to seek shelter wherever they can, including on the streets and in UN-run schools. Gazans are effectively trapped, with Israeli-controlled crossings closed and Egypt also having shut the Rafah border in the south. For more on the dire situation rapidly unfolding for the Palestinians in Gaza, FRANCE 24's François Picard is joined by Egyptian Journalist and Security Analyst Mohannad Sabry.
Egypt court puts Hamas on terrorist list
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28 February 2015
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An earlier ruling by an Egyptian court to designate Hamas's armed wing as a terrorist organisation led to protests in the Gaza Strip
An Egyptian court has listed the Palestinian group Hamas as a terrorist organisation, accusing it of supporting an insurgency in northern Sinai.
The ruling comes a month after a different court labelled the armed wing of Hamas as a terrorist group.
Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip, is an offshoot of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood - itself designated as a terrorist organisation in 2013.
Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood President Mohammed Morsi was ousted that year.
The court ruling on Saturday effectively bans Hamas within Egypt, a wider verdict that January's censure of its armed wing.
"It has been proven without any doubt that the movement has committed acts of sabotage, assassinations and the killing of innocent civilians and members of the armed forces and police in Egypt," Judge Mohamed el-Sayed said, according to state news agency Mena.
'No influence'
The decision was condemned by Hamas leadership, which said it "serves the Israeli occupation".The ruling was "shocking and dangerous", Hamas said, adding: "It will have no influence on the Hamas movement."
Egypt has traditionally played a key role in mediating between Israel and Hamas in Gaza, and is seen as a key player in any peace or security talks.
The ruling was made after two complaints were filed against the militant group implicating it in attacks against the police and army in the Sinai, a judicial source told the AFP news agency.
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Hamas is designated a terrorist group by many nations, but to its supporters it is a resistance movement
Militants in the peninsula have killed scores of policemen and soldiers since President Morsi's downfall in 2013, vowing revenge for government moves against his supporters that have resulted in more than 1,400 people being killed.
Hamas dominates Gaza and fought a 50-day war with Israel last year. Under its charter, external, the movement is committed to Israel's destruction.
Israel, the United States and several other nations have designated Hamas a terrorist organisation over its long record of attacks and refusal to renounce violence.
Hamas, which was founded in 1987, won Palestinian parliamentary elections in 2006 and reinforced its power in Gaza the following year after ousting its Fatah rivals.
Its supporters see it as a legitimate resistance movement against Israel, with whom it has fought for years.
Jordan, Egypt Reject Any Palestinian Displacement into Their Countries
October 27, 2023 9:10 AM- By Dale Gavlak
FILE - A UNDP-provided tent camp for Palestinians displaced by the Israeli bombardment of the Gaza Strip is seen in Khan Younis, Oct. 19, 2023.
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AMMAN —
Jordan has spearheaded Arab calls for a cease-fire in the Gaza war as casualties mount. An Israeli ground invasion to destroy Hamas, Arab analysts warn, could escalate into a wider regional conflict. Israel's peace partners, Jordan and Egypt, decry any mass transfers of Palestinians to their countries.
As civilian deaths rise and the humanitarian situation deteriorates in Gaza, Israel has vowed to wipe out Hamas, designated by Israel, the United States and the European Union as a terrorist organization.
SEE ALSO:
Israeli Military Says Troops Conduct Another Gaza Strip Ground Incursion
Former Jordanian Foreign Minister Marwan Muasher told an online Carnegie Mideast panel this week that eliminating the militants may prove difficult, as Hamas “has become an ideology and not just a movement.”
Muasher warned: “If the Hamas military machine is destroyed, I am afraid many other Hamases will spring up."
“Military solutions of this kind cannot solve this issue. Only a political process can. The problem with a political process, I just don’t see who is going to lead one."
Emergency personnel work at the site of Israeli strikes on houses, as the conflict between Israel and Palestinian Islamist group Hamas continues, in Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip, Oct. 27, 2023.
Muasher says that if Israel does not engage in a peace process leading to the establishment of a Palestinian state nor wants to govern the Palestinian majority inside the country, then he warns it may try to effect a mass transfer of Palestinians to Jordan and Egypt — which is unacceptable.
“The logical conclusion that Jordan and Egypt have is that if Israel does not want the first two options, then only the third option is to try get rid of as many Palestinians as possible. That is the real concern," Muasher said.
Former Egyptian lawmaker Amr Hamzawy says while Egypt is working to allow aid in for the people in Gaza, it also is “very worried about any scenario of displacement.”
“The Egyptian government position is fully backed by popular sentiment. We will not let our national sovereignty or the borders be abused to solve an Israeli problem of not accepting a two-state solution, of not accepting an end to the occupation, and getting rid of the Palestinian issue,” Hamzawy said.
On Thursday, Arab foreign ministers from Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Bahrain, Morocco, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates condemned what they called the targeting of civilians and violations of international law in Gaza.
They said Israel's right to self-defense does not justify breaking the law and neglecting Palestinians' rights. They also expressed concern about a wider regional conflict developing.
Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant told a press conference that Israel had "no interest in expanding the war."
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/6/6/jordan-intelligence-agents-killed-outside-baqaa-camp
Jordan intelligence agents killed outside Baqa’a camp
Attack on security office near Al Baqa’a refugee camp kills three officers and two employees of intelligence department.
Al Baqa'a, near Amman, is the largest Palestinian refugee camp in Jordan [Reuters]
Published On 6 Jun 20166 Jun 2016
Five Jordanian intelligence officers have been killed in an attack on a security office outside a Palestinian refugee camp close to Amman, a government official told national media.
Jordanian television quoted government spokesman Mohammad al-Momani on Monday as saying the assault on the office near the Al Baqa’a refugee camp on the outskirts of the Jordanian capital was a “terrorist attack”.
Security forces have arrested a suspect in the attack at the intelligence department’s local office near the camp that houses more than 70,000 refugees, Jordanian TV reported.
Also read: Jordan changes constitution to give King more power
As well as the three officers, a guard and a telephone exchange operator at the office were killed. The official said that the incident took place just outside the sprawling camp at 7am, but gave no further details.
“This terrorist attack is a clear example of the criminal behaviour of these individuals. Security agencies have launched an investigation and are now pursuing the killers,” he said.
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Baqa’a camp is the largest Palestinian refugee camp in Jordan, where a large percentage of the country’s seven million-plus population are descendants of refugees who fled in the aftermath of the creation of Israel in 1948.
Husam Abdallat, a former senior government official, told Al Jazeera that the intelligence office is located on the main street leading up to the camp.
He added that its proximity to the Palestinian refugee camp might trigger discontent between Jordanians and Jordanians of Palestinian origin.
“We hope this is not the case, because Jordanians must stay united, especially in times like this,” Abdallat said.
It is obvious that you have never read the other sides of the story and just want to be biased.
Continue to be blinded by lies. It may be good for the sheeple afterall because they are not smart and will always fall for the propaganda lol
Listen, fall for the propaganda.
I didn’t fall for the propaganda. Are you jealous because I am seems stupid to you? Lol
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Since you believe the mainstream narrative, please also vote for pap. They are the mainstream lol
Already 2024, still so many dumbfucks still believe in mainstream narrative. You deserved to be jabbed for trusting the mainstream
Maybe it is a good time for sheeple to re-learn everything in their entire life do that they will somehow understand how much lies that they have been told since birth
Maybe it is a good time for sheeple to re-learn everything in their entire life do that they will somehow understand how much lies that they have been told since birth
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Ballless Dracula Pundek shows his (no no cannot be his) true colors from behind the screen.
But loves killing babies
Palestinian baby dies after treatment delayed by Israeli blockade of Gaza
Fatima al-Masri, a 19-month-old with a hole in her heart, waited five months for Israel to issue a permit allowing her to travel for treatment
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Jordan, Egypt Reject Any Palestinian Displacement into Their Countries
October 27, 2023 9:10 AM
- By Dale Gavlak
FILE - A UNDP-provided tent camp for Palestinians displaced by the Israeli bombardment of the Gaza Strip is seen in Khan Younis, Oct. 19, 2023.
Share
AMMAN —
Jordan has spearheaded Arab calls for a cease-fire in the Gaza war as casualties mount. An Israeli ground invasion to destroy Hamas, Arab analysts warn, could escalate into a wider regional conflict. Israel's peace partners, Jordan and Egypt, decry any mass transfers of Palestinians to their countries.
As civilian deaths rise and the humanitarian situation deteriorates in Gaza, Israel has vowed to wipe out Hamas, designated by Israel, the United States and the European Union as a terrorist organization.
SEE ALSO:
Israeli Military Says Troops Conduct Another Gaza Strip Ground Incursion
Former Jordanian Foreign Minister Marwan Muasher told an online Carnegie Mideast panel this week that eliminating the militants may prove difficult, as Hamas “has become an ideology and not just a movement.”
Muasher warned: “If the Hamas military machine is destroyed, I am afraid many other Hamases will spring up."
“Military solutions of this kind cannot solve this issue. Only a political process can. The problem with a political process, I just don’t see who is going to lead one."
Emergency personnel work at the site of Israeli strikes on houses, as the conflict between Israel and Palestinian Islamist group Hamas continues, in Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip, Oct. 27, 2023.
Muasher says that if Israel does not engage in a peace process leading to the establishment of a Palestinian state nor wants to govern the Palestinian majority inside the country, then he warns it may try to effect a mass transfer of Palestinians to Jordan and Egypt — which is unacceptable.
“The logical conclusion that Jordan and Egypt have is that if Israel does not want the first two options, then only the third option is to try get rid of as many Palestinians as possible. That is the real concern," Muasher said.
Former Egyptian lawmaker Amr Hamzawy says while Egypt is working to allow aid in for the people in Gaza, it also is “very worried about any scenario of displacement.”
“The Egyptian government position is fully backed by popular sentiment. We will not let our national sovereignty or the borders be abused to solve an Israeli problem of not accepting a two-state solution, of not accepting an end to the occupation, and getting rid of the Palestinian issue,” Hamzawy said.
On Thursday, Arab foreign ministers from Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Bahrain, Morocco, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates condemned what they called the targeting of civilians and violations of international law in Gaza.
They said Israel's right to self-defense does not justify breaking the law and neglecting Palestinians' rights. They also expressed concern about a wider regional conflict developing.
Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant told a press conference that Israel had "no interest in expanding the war."
Dracula the Evil Witch feels proud killing babies.
Israeli army broadcasts baby cries and women screaming to 'lure and kill' Palestinians in Gaza: report
Israeli forces are broadcasting fake sounds of women screaming and babies crying to lure Palestinians out and kill them, a rights monitor has found.
The Israeli army is broadcasting recordings of women screaming and babies crying to lure Palestinians out into the streets in Gaza and kill them, a rights monitor has reported.
Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor, a Geneva-based group, said the technique was being used to intimidate and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip's Nuseirat refugee camp, which is currently under assault by Israel.
Testimonies from residents who spoke to the team confirmed hearing sounds of crying and screams broadcast late at night on Sunday and Monday.
When the residents went out to investigate and try to help they were targeted by Israeli quadcopter drones and gunfire, the report said.
The alarming technique was used with the intent of luring the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be more easily targeted by Israeli snipers, Euro-Med said.
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Maybe I should start impaling your babies with lard. Disrespecting ww2 victims for your lame cause. You can only post here but never have the balls to protest outside parliament.
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