Horrific S. Korean Jeju plane crash - accident or intended?

[Truthspeak]

A critical thinker will never go around and tell everyone he/she believes in everything the TV says lol

Only an idiot do that

 

[winners]

A critical thinker will never go around and tell everyone he/she believes in everything the TV says lol

Only an idiot do that

I'm still waiting for you to tell me what is the meaning of "can't science"? How long can you deceive yourself by not replying appropriately but had to change to a different subject altogether? What a loser you are? Must be like me, a winner, and always belongs to the winners.

 

[Truthspeak]

I'm still waiting for you to tell me what is the meaning of "can't science"? How long can you deceive yourself by not replying appropriately but had to change to a different subject altogether. What a loser you are? Must be like me, a winner, and always belongs to the winners.

Keep on evading from your own claim lol
And keep asking these irrelevant stuffs

 

[winners]

Keep on evading from your own claim lol
And keep asking these irrelevant stuffs

Aw, come on. What irrelevant stuffs? It is from you yourself: "can't science". What is the meaning of this? I'm sure many in this forum will also like to know.

 

[Truthspeak]

Why should I even talk to a twit who in this 21st century, is still insisting that the earth is flat, there is no such thing as a nuclear weapon, etc. Really wasting my time with you.

And why are you keep replying me?

Not able to substantiate your own claim and just want to argue irrelevant stuffs lol

 

[winners]

And why are you keep replying me?

Not able to substantiate your own claim and just want to argue irrelevant stuffs lol

Because I just can't wait to embarrass you and your silly ideology. A clown who cannot even substantiate what he (or it) had said himself (or itself), when being cornered. See, I can even outwit a useless AI like you. Please get your programmer to update you, failing which, you will become redundant in your future posts here.

 

[Truthspeak]

Because I just can't wait to embarrass you and your silly ideology. A clown who cannot even substantiate what he (or it) had said himself (or itself), when being cornered. See, I can even outwit a useless AI like you. Please get your programmer to update you, failing which, you will become redundant in your future posts here.

Better go see a psychiatrist and treat your mental disease. It is looking serious.

Assuming everything from a TV set, no wonder you are a vaxtard lol

That had summarised your IQ level

 

[winners]

The robust concrete one it seems to fix the airport runway approach lights. Normally these lights are fixed on steel poles.

Yes, they are now putting the blame on who's the one to allow the erecting of the concrete wall at the end of the runway.

 

[sbfuncle]

First off, my sincere & humble condolences to the victims families. There is no word from the insignificant nobody me that can ever console them, but may they be assured that while their DNA bodies end, the gift of life continues on, to return back to the Divine, free from sorrows & pain evermore.....

There will be many questions & investigations conducted, but critically, the passenger manifest MUST not be overlooked, especially in a time of turmoil in S. Korea, with current & opposition parties in seriously DIRE conflict, with even martial law had been attempted to be used which means anyone who disobey directives from the govt or even opposition parties - death is certain.

Koreans are NOT like the civilized Japanese. Even the Imperial Japan Army in the 40s resorted to use Koreans for their dastardly deeds that no civilized Japanese would perform, thus the tales of brutal Korean guards.....

While Japan bore the pain after its defeat in WW2 & made amends to Civilization, Koreans were let off, & their brutality showed that resulted in the Korean War of the 50s.... which in the end, USA had to resolve & bring civilization to those barbaric beasts, more so to the divided nation at the 38th parallel in Korea - S, Koreans.

Despite the peace, in the end, barbaric nature ruled, as a leopard does not changes its spots. The Chaebols - intelligent bizmen with their BARBARIC nature ruled the country MISUSING & ABUSING Democracy for their own ends, controlling the Nation & even politicians thru their wealth...

They are brutal & would use their wealth thru coercion of money or life to others, that if anyone crosses their path, Torture & Death to the person, even to their family which most crime orgs would avoid doing so, is the only way to remove an obstacle, even if need to sacrifice thousands of innocent lives....

It is unconceivable that a mere undercarriage wheel would go UNDETECTED on a modern aircraft if it malfunctions. Had it been serviced properly in corrupted Thailand, or had the hardware & software been tampered with?

Who was on the plane that those in power want dead or a message sent regardless of other innocent lives lost?

I'm not too sure about the brutality of Koreans vs japs but it does make sense to raise suspicion over the matter when political turmoil is happening at the same time.

And it doesn't need to be vips (quoted by @syed putra) in order to silence them.

 

[Willamshakespear]

If it is not too late, may the authorities from S.Korea & Thailand haul up the servicing & maintenance crews on that aircraft for INVESTIGATIONS.

Aircrafts would have to be inspected after every flight, from head to toe, so WHY were malfunctions not detected? Negligence, oversight or something more sinister?

The undercarriage wheels uses dual fail-safe systems - hydraulics & manual system of levers & clogs for its operations. When one system fail, the other will work..

In the case of hydraulics, just a tiny puncture on the tube or a tube nut screwed loosely would render such a system inoperable. While the aircraft certainly did take off using such a system & even retracted back into its position, the leakage & flight vibrations over time would ensure a loss of pressure to the hydraulic tùbes & thus the system fails when it is used for landing.

In the case of manual operation to lower the landing gear, it uses no electronics or hydraulics, just levers & clogs to lower the undercarriage wheels.

So HOW coincidental could BOTH systems failed at the same time?

 

[Willamshakespear]

Sources: South Korean transport ministry; satellite image by Maxar Technologies: By Agnes Chang
New York Times

 

[sbfuncle]

If it is not too late, may the authorities from S.Korea & Thailand haul up the servicing & maintenance crews on that aircraft for INVESTIGATIONS.

Aircrafts would have to be inspected after every flight, from head to toe, so WHY were malfunctions not detected? Negligence, oversight or something more sinister?

The undercarriage wheels uses dual fail-safe systems - hydraulics & manual system of levers & clogs for its operations. When one system fail, the other will work..

In the case of hydraulics, just a tiny puncture on the tube or a tube nut screwed loosely would render such a system inoperable. While the aircraft certainly did take off using such a system & even retracted back into its position, the leakage & flight vibrations over time would ensure a loss of pressure to the hydraulic tùbes & thus the system fails when it is used for landing.

In the case of manual operation to lower the landing gear, it uses no electronics or hydraulics, just levers & clogs to lower the undercarriage wheels.

So HOW coincidental could BOTH systems failed at the same time?

I buy this valuable information based on your mechanical engineering background.

 

[Willamshakespear]

Greetings to EVERYONE on this beautiful morning of 2025, & may it bring HOPE to all. Sadly, our fellow Humans in S.Korea will be in mourning, as each life is precious & means something special to another, more so on this horrific episode in the journey of their lives, along with political turmoil they faced. May the new year brings hope & justice as resolution to them too....



The last words from the pilot was MAY DAY.

May Day is commonly used by directors of vessels, such as drivers, ship captains or pilots, etc. It signifies a distress call, that they have no longer any means to CONTROL their craft, which means engines, power supplies to electronics or manual systems are dead.

HOWEVER, based upon recordings of the aircraft sliding single mindlessly to the wall at the end of the runway, the engines sound were still AUDIBLE, which means there was no loss of power supply to the aircraft, to stay aloft, to turn its rudders & aileron flaps to reduce speed, etc, etc.

Thus the aircraft was functioning still with power supply. Did the onboard computer FAILED to function to the pilot's control, & even manual over-ride to turn the aircraft, rudder, aileron flaps, which are still electronically connected to & controlled by the onboard computer?

Many questions abound & worse with the latest disclosure that the power cable connecting to the black box flight recorder device was missing - was it even connected? How could such critical component go missing while on flight?....Negligence, lack of oversight or something else more sinister by those whom have access to such systems?

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[sbfuncle]

I read that the plane was stopped from being landed for the first time when air traffic control spotted birds on ground.
The plane was then made to abort the landing and made another short detour before returning for another landing.
This time the landing wheel wasn't seen and eventually landed with belly.
There were speculations that it was simply a simple human error I.e the pilot was dreaming or maybe still thinking or looking out for birds and forgotten to perform their basic task therefore causing the disaster. Means there wasn't even any technical fault.
Surgeons can make simple unexpected mistakes so do pilots.

If this was really what happened, they wouldn't be able to get anything out of
the 2 surviving crews.

They need to listen carefully before the last word Mayday, was there oh shit! Or fuck me!
If the pilots had forgotten the basic task probably they will say oh shit, fuck me, mayday. Or perhaps silence and then Mayday. Silence is becos they didn't wanted anyone to know that they have forgotten to perform a basic task. Malu if they were to survive and license revoke.

And if there was a technical fault, the pilot would definitely had communicated to the control tower before the last word of Mayday, isn't it?

 

[Willamshakespear]

While no mortal is perfect, that pilot had 70,000hrs of flight time, meaning an experienced pilot that had brought passengers safely back & forth over years, not ssome over paid moron sitting in an office.... & for sure he is certainly qualified to issue a May Day directive in an emergency, with hundreds of passengers on his hands....

 

[sbfuncle]

While no mortal is perfect, that pilot had 70,000hrs of flight time, meaning an experienced pilot....

Fyi a veteran eye surgeon with at least 40 years of experience had prescribed me a totally out of range lens prescription I.e by at least 500deg more than what is needed, after the post ops review.

 

[syed putra]

If it is not too late, may the authorities from S.Korea & Thailand haul up the servicing & maintenance crews on that aircraft for INVESTIGATIONS.

Aircrafts would have to be inspected after every flight, from head to toe, so WHY were malfunctions not detected? Negligence, oversight or something more sinister?

The undercarriage wheels uses dual fail-safe systems - hydraulics & manual system of levers & clogs for its operations. When one system fail, the other will work..

In the case of hydraulics, just a tiny puncture on the tube or a tube nut screwed loosely would render such a system inoperable. While the aircraft certainly did take off using such a system & even retracted back into its position, the leakage & flight vibrations over time would ensure a loss of pressure to the hydraulic tùbes & thus the system fails when it is used for landing.

In the case of manual operation to lower the landing gear, it uses no electronics or hydraulics, just levers & clogs to lower the undercarriage wheels.

So HOW coincidental could BOTH systems failed at the same time?

It seems those silly pilots turned off the wrong engine. They turned off the engine that was ok. Hence forced to make the quick glide to land. No time for manual engagement if landing wheels.

 

[GOD IS MY DOG]

which airport is that? must be lacking proper safety protocols...KNN why that fucking wall so close to runway?

so Humpty Dumpty can sit easily after long flight mah...........

 

[sbfuncle]

While no mortal is perfect, that pilot had 70,000hrs of flight time, meaning an experienced pilot that had brought passengers safely back & forth over years, not ssome over paid moron sitting in an office.... & for sure he is certainly qualified to issue a May Day directive in an emergency, with hundreds of passengers on his hands....

Is good and experienced to clock more hours.
But when you clocked more after you have clocked enough, you will become complacent.
Same for doctors and consultants and surgeons, politicians, red lions etc
I now try to avoid overly experienced ones becos they have reached their milestone and become complacent.

 

[rushifa666]

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