Deep inside, malays are Taoist.

[Nice-Gook]

They will jail/ threaten/ insult/ ridicule people like me.
I am just telling whoami there are sources out there questioning validity of his faith which is entirely based on a book which is not even written by mohamad.

Please lah , don’t give me that shit ..not in SG , at least ..in fact , there’ are a lot of Christian organisation who will love to aid you ..meaning , to screw Islam through you

but the gist is , what is your intent really ? ..to ridicule or search or enlighten ? None is declared by you but nit pick on every opportunity to ridicule Muslims

 

[Nice-Gook]

They will jail/ threaten/ insult/ ridicule people like me.
I am just telling whoami there are sources out there questioning validity of his faith which is entirely based on a book which is not even written by mohamad.

Instead of going around the mulberry bush and chasing the wild goose ..,why don’t you come clean for once ?.. I don’t mean who you are and what you do .,but what is your version of Islam or no such thing as a god , doesn’t matter of if you an Arab or keling ..is that so difficult to do ?

 

[nightsafari]

I don't get it. Pootra not Malay or not Muslim? Cos this affects my view of Malays and Muslims.

syed putra is not malay, but was probably raised in a Muslim household. Indian Muslim. Like Mahathir

 

[LordElrond]

syed putra is not malay, but was probably raised in a Muslim household. Indian Muslim. Like Mahathir

Ah that explains!

 

[nightsafari]

Cos Islam is the perfect religion i.e. if u read the Quran with an open heart..free fm prejudice.

Those two things cannot coexist in the same subject.

 

[nightsafari]

Ethopia was a Christian country long before the age of european colonization. Africa, as a contingent, started to embrace Christianity in significant numbers from the 19th century, which by then, most of the really violent military conquests were over. I don't recall european armies destroying native african cities, slaughtering their civilians, carting away thousands of women and children as slaves. This was routine human rights abuses for asiatic and moslem armies from ancient to pre-modern days.

Even after conversion to Christianity, the native africans didn't start Crusades. In contrast, when natives converted to islam, they almost immediately took up jihad against their neighbours who aren't moslem. Most of the problems in Africa today are religious conflicts involving moslems against other african groups that are presented as land or water squabbles to appear politically correct.

Other than the Philippines in Asia, I don't recall any asiatic country embracing Christianity by militarized conversions. South Korea perhaps? But that's done by missionaries. South Korea has a long history of being a victim of imperialism rather than being an imperialist. Philippines today has a problem dealing with terrorism because the spanish didn't complete their conquest of the philippines islands. Should I blame this on the chinks? They seem to be the jews of ASEAN.

You might be interested to know that the Ethiopians claim that Jesus final resting place is in Ethiopia.

 

[nightsafari]

The Arabs and persians have been sailing between middle East and China since 700's.
They had settlements in Guangzhou . We know this as chinese massacred the arabs and persians . The Arabs never bothered to convert Malays probably because they were more businessman than clerics.

The Guangzhou Massacre was a massacre of the inhabitants of the prosperous port city of Guangzhou in 878–879 by the rebel army of Huang Chao who was attempting to overthrow the Tang dynasty. Victims included tens of thousands of foreign merchants, mainly Arabs and Persians.

The Malays started becoming Muslims after thus incident:-

And then there was arab rebellion ( ispah rebellion) in quanzhou in 1357 which eventually was crushed in 1366 which caused many Muslims to flee China and most probably ended up in various ports in South East Asia. This could be the event that turned Malays to Muslims. My opinion.

interesting. that means the Chinese in Malaysia are paying for the price of their earlier discrimination a thousand years later.

 

[syed putra]

You might be interested to know that the Ethiopians claim that Jesus final resting place is in Ethiopia.

Ethiopians also claim the ark of covenant( original ten commandments tablet)is in Ethiopia.

 

[nightsafari]

They will jail/ threaten/ insult/ ridicule people like me.
I am just telling whoami there are sources out there questioning validity of his faith which is entirely based on a book which is not even written by mohamad.

after reading all the posts about you, I can only conclude that you should just come right out and put out your platform. They can't harm you here. And it would make what you say more credible. Because right now, most have no idea what you're going on about. for 1 thing, whoami has shown that he's not going to harm you for opposing his beliefs. so go ahead and come right out and say what you really want to say as opposed to oblique barbs.

 

[syed putra]

I am just having a healthy debate with whoami. Hopefully make him think just a little bit more as currently he gets his information from only one source, thus making him prejudice. But i shall say no more on tbe subject since it has created controversy.

 

[nightsafari]

Tere are alot of ignorants abt Islam in tis world. Sm are genuine. But sm chose to be ignorant like those here. U need to ask urself wats the purpose of life? Why are u born into tis world? Browse thru the scripture n the answers r tere. U have a choice. Ponder n accept or reject without pondering.

what about ponder and find not credible?

 

[nightsafari]

hanor, i've called him out long, long time ago, as this twit didn't even know what female circumcision / sunna is / was.
basically, ini tak guna pariah pundek has taken you for a ride, defending as an ally when discussing with tarpow john (quoting the hadith etc) - a typical ular keling

I think he may be trying to say something, but going very long roundabout circle because of fear of persecution.

 

[whoami]

Let me declare myself first , I think all religions that exist are commercialised and politicised ..but it’s better for human kind for a god to exist than not ..but unfortunately all we are told by god men are nothing but illogical and unscientific craps

having said that , I do respect a religious person like you more than who is not ,,simply because you guys do have a code of conduct

but couple of thing that is annoying is 1 ,people like syed Putra picks on people like you to ridicule and belittle the religion he was born into ..instead he should challenge the imams and etc publicly, in that way something will eventually turn out ...instead of using forums like this to bad mouth

secondly , Malays like you are trying to be more Islamic than the Arabs ..I reckon ,the entire lot of Malays became Islamic not more than 300 years ago ...but in s India there are Mosques older than a 1000 years old and likewise Indonesians and Chinese were expose to and practicing Islam much longer than many Malays ..so Malays attempting to be more royal than royalty is quite irking

I have no problem discussing Islam with anybody. But the moment they started cursing like tat PAP cocksucker, badmouth and mocking my prophet, i will distant myself from them. Tats not discussion.

I am a Muslim. For me i put on very simple baju kurong when attending prayers at Masjid. Just a haji cap though i have not been to Haj yet. I dine with all kind of races. I dont avoid them. So teres nothing to compete with my fellow muslims bros....to be more islamic or pious. I just follow the basic of Islamic faith. And i am still learning.

 

[whoami]

Those two things cannot coexist in the same subject.

Islam will always be a misunderstood religion. But with an open heart and free from prejudice, u will slowly understand. But the moment u start to prejudge, then susah ya. Intellectual, professors, doctors, scientists,.....embraced Islam. Cos they knew Islam is a perfect religion....which is meant for all mankind.

 

[whoami]

what about ponder and find not credible?

Cos u cant see Allah azzawajal?

 

[nightsafari]

Islam will always be a misunderstood religion. But with an open heart and free from prejudice, u will slowly understand. But the moment u start to prejudge, then susah ya. Intellectual, professors, doctors, scientists,.....embraced Islam. Cos they knew Islam is a perfect religion....which is meant for all mankind.

bro. if you say something is perfect how to be free from prejudice?

 

[nightsafari]

Cos u cant see Allah azzawajal?

because I know too well how the history and basis of how the religions were created. and the history of people.

religion is not god/allah. religion is religion. god is god. because I don't believe religion doesn't mean I don't believe in god(s).

with religion I 100% don't believe. With god(s), I humbly say that I am not capable of saying for sure. Because I cannot say for sure, I will not criticize another person's belief in god(s). But with religion I can say with good certainty.

 

[whoami]

bro. if you say something is perfect how to be free from prejudice?

Cos when u start to prejudge every single verses fm the Quran, of course its not perfect religion for u.

 

[whoami]

because I know too well how the history and basis of how the religions were created. and the history of people.

religion is not god/allah. religion is religion. god is god. because I don't believe religion doesn't mean I don't believe in god(s).

with religion I 100% don't believe. With god(s), I humbly say that I am not capable of saying for sure. Because I cannot say for sure, I will not criticize another person's belief in god(s). But with religion I can say with good certainty.

Well, if u dont like the word religion, u can always treat it as a way of life. But believing in Allah azzawajal is non negotiable.

 

[whoami]

syed putra is not malay, but was probably raised in a Muslim household. Indian Muslim. Like Mahathir

Possibly a murtad. See...he still alive.