Deep inside, malays are Taoist.

[JohnTan]

But as for the very last line, no way am I subscribing to fear as a primary motivator no matter how powerful the person is. It is a seriously flawed approach.

Nearly every other religion do. They could dial down the 'fear' factor up and 'up' the trade factor, like trading good deeds for nirvana or paradise. Where they diverge is on how they define 'good deeds'. An islamist would define 'good deeds very differently from a buddhist.

 

[JohnTan]

Moses murdered too.
And noahs wife committed adultery.
But most wouldn't know about this. Its in the Quran too.

Christians do ask questions about why God in the OT would kill so many of the canannites or some of the weird stuff that happens. We usually have a good debate and go off for supper together after that. Usually, there's no good answers. But it reminds us of how little we know. Never once, did we shout each other down, accuse each other of being apostates, bad christians or islamist agents for asking such hard questions.

 

[nightsafari]

Nearly every other religion do. They could dial down the 'fear' factor up and 'up' the trade factor, like trading good deeds for nirvana or paradise. Where they diverge is on how they define 'good deeds'. An islamist would define 'good deeds very differently from a buddhist.

which is why I generally don't follow religions...

but please do elaborate how good deeds differs, I'm all ears...

 

[JohnTan]

which is why I generally don't follow religions...

but please do elaborate how good deeds differs, I'm all ears...

Christian and Buddhist charities help and educate everyone without checking their religion first. Nearly all moslem charities focus on helping moslems as priority. Jesus shared the parable of the Good Samaritan. It's a story of charity where a non-believer and non-Jew showed charity to a believer.

I think our m&d organizations would also prefer to help m&ds who happen to be moslems. Would they extend social services to m&ds who are not moslems?

 

[syed putra]

Christians do ask questions about why God in the OT would kill so many of the canannites or some of the weird stuff that happens. We usually have a good debate and go off for supper together after that. Usually, there's no good answers. But it reminds us of how little we know. Never once, did we shout each other down, accuse each other of being apostates, bad christians or islamist agents for asking such hard questions.

I believe South American Indians were totally obliterated by Christian conquistadors. Until today, those Indians never did recover from that episode.
The landlords are mostly Europeans. Leaving nothing to the Indians.

 

[JohnTan]

I believe South American Indians were totally obliterated by Christian conquistadors. Until today, those Indians never did recover from that episode.
The landlords are mostly Europeans. Leaving nothing to the Indians.

More specifically, the South American Indians were obliterated by the germs brought by the Spanish conquistadors.

There were no conquistadors from England, France, Hungary, Italy. It's sneaky and plain inaccurate to label conquistadors from Europe instead of a more specific 'Spain'. The landlords were a minor group of Spanish soldiers who conquered the land.

The indians also left nothing to fellow indians when they conquered each other. It's not like they were living in harmony with each other before the Spanish arrived.

 

[duluxe]

How moslems maintain Islam as perfect religion that will never go wrong? Either disown erroneous muslims or blaming on others. ISIS jihadists are not real muslims. 9-11 is the work of yankees blowing up their towers to flame moslems. In the end, Islam remains perfect as ever.

Moslems love face very much, just like asiatics. To the Japanese, they are very reluctant to criticize their warriors for slaughtering and raping across East Asia during WW2 because it is seen as being unfillal. So all references to bad deeds are either covered up, or put in very polite terms.

 

[ilovechinesegal]

syed putra is not malay, but was probably raised in a Muslim household. Indian Muslim. Like Mahathir

Yes i guess so! Indian moslem is more smarter and rationale than the m&d! What he stated is much more rationale than those m&d idiots! They are brain dead!

 

[ilovechinesegal]

I am just telling them they got the idea all wrong.

Dont waste your energy! They are dead brain! He say u hypocrite??? Here is a fucking forum and practice freedom of speech and not under fucking sharia law! That guy really fucking emo and delusional!

 

[Semaj2357]

which is why I generally don't follow religions...

but please do elaborate how good deeds differs, I'm all ears...

hanor, whatever the religion - it suffices if it maketh a better man

 

[syed putra]

Christian and Buddhist charities help and educate everyone without checking their religion first. Nearly all moslem charities focus on helping moslems as priority. Jesus shared the parable of the Good Samaritan. It's a story of charity where a non-believer and non-Jew showed charity to a believer.

I think our m&d organizations would also prefer to help m&ds who happen to be moslems. Would they extend social services to m&ds who are not moslems?

Helping infidels is a sin.

 

[duluxe]

Helping infidels is a sin.

in sinkieland, islam is twisted from the real version in middle east and muslim majority countries. Here you find mosques doing some charity works for non muslims and m&d muslims in grassroot activities. whoami is not wrong in saying islam is peaceful and no compulsion here.

 

[syed putra]

in sinkieland, islam is twisted from the real version in middle east and muslim majority countries. Here you find mosques doing some charity works for non muslims and m&d muslims in grassroot activities. whoami is not wrong in saying islam is peaceful and no compulsion here.

I am just saying what their holy book states based on their interpretations.whoami does not beleive in no compulsion in religion.he already gave the facts.

 

[ilovechinesegal]

Helping infidels is a sin.

Yes this is true even in sinkie! Msia needless to say! The m&d will side each other backside no matter what! If is other race they would not side 100%! Even tough the m&d is 100% wrong, the m&d will still side him and if is other race who is wrong, the m&d would not side at all and accuse him!

 

[nightsafari]

hanor, whatever the religion - it suffices if it maketh a better man

hanar hanar...

 

[nightsafari]

Christian and Buddhist charities help and educate everyone without checking their religion first. Nearly all moslem charities focus on helping moslems as priority. Jesus shared the parable of the Good Samaritan. It's a story of charity where a non-believer and non-Jew showed charity to a believer.

It's interesting that the document I dug up about Mohammed, he writes a lot about the Jews. No mention of his followers. It appears he was not ego-centric. The stuff that followed him appears to be so.

I think our m&d organizations would also prefer to help m&ds who happen to be moslems. Would they extend social services to m&ds who are not moslems?

Interesting. I think it would be genuinely cruel for Malay organisations to help only Muslims.

 

[nightsafari]

in sinkieland, islam is twisted from the real version in middle east and muslim majority countries. Here you find mosques doing some charity works for non muslims and m&d muslims in grassroot activities. whoami is not wrong in saying islam is peaceful and no compulsion here.

Interesting. I think Islam in the middle east is twisted from what Mohammed intended.

 

[nightsafari]

Yes i guess so! Indian moslem is more smarter and rationale than the m&d! What he stated is much more rationale than those m&d idiots! They are brain dead!

It's true that religious extremists are brain dead.

 

[syed putra]

Interesting. I think Islam in the middle east is twisted from what Mohammed intended.

Islam in my opinion was twisted the moment mohamad died.

 

[nightsafari]

Islam in my opinion was twisted the moment mohamad died.

as is usual. all the power-hungry vultures descend to partake in a bit of some wise man's glory and claim it for their own political ends.

Don't have to look to far. Even in this day and age, certain monuments of great men are not allowed to be demolished.