Why don't Singapore PROMOTE Teochew, Hokkien, Hakka, Wu, Gan speaking movie and songs

[Forvendet]

Re: Why don't Singapore PROMOTE Teochew, Hokkien, Hakka, Wu, Gan speaking movie and s

Singapore should abolish Chinese and all Chinese dialects and other languages and be united with English since Singapore was founded by an English knight and English was the only common language to begin with and follow through. Native Malays had foresaken their claim since they signed and ceded Singapore to the British. Chinese and Indians lay no claim since they came as immigrants under the British. This mess of Tower of Babel of languages and dialects is what disunite this country.

 

[Forvendet]

Re: Why don't Singapore PROMOTE Teochew, Hokkien, Hakka, Wu, Gan speaking movie and s

chup cheng kia,

why u never ask malays to give up melayu and indians to give up tamil?

your mil yester whack you again is it.

Go back to primary one comprehension lesson. I said abolish all dialects and other languages, that if you comprehend, includes Malay and Tamil and others.

 

[Fook Seng]

I'm just suggesting that we Chinese should improve. My calligraphic rating is good enough to be top ten even in any Japanese or PRC or ROC town. Why? Because I admitted I was not good enough and learnt. Just because they're Japanese and we're Chinese, we insist whatever we're better, that way we'll never learn.

I have to admit the Japanese display more care in their calligraphy. While commercial calligraphy in Chinese serves the practical purpose of just informing, the Japanese view it with a decorative purpose. That illustrates the difference in the Chinese and Japanese character, the Chinese being more pragmatic and want things to be done away with quickly while the Japanese are more deliberate in the things that they do. This difference is also shown in how they handle disasters e.g. earthquakes and tsunamis.

The Chinese will just carry out their work of rescue even before they have a comprehensive plan of operation. On the other hand the Japanese spend a lot of time deliberating on the best plan of action. In the tsunami disaster last year, the Japanese definitely manifested this characteristic. Coupled with respect for seniority, many evidently impractical solutions were tried before finally hitting on more practical solutions.

The development of zen buddhism also has a role to play here. The state of zen in Japan is probably closer to that of China of the past. For example the culture of an elaborate tea brewing ceremony is still there in Japan whereas in China, it is all gone except for demonstration purposes. The practice of zen (or Can in Chinese) is probably limited to ordained monks in temples in China. Whereas in Japan, it has merged as part of modern living. But Western influence is slowly eroding this even in Japan.

 

[Mercury]

Re: Why don't Singapore PROMOTE Teochew, Hokkien, Hakka, Wu, Gan speaking movie and s

Chinese and Japanese signages and labels are mostly crafted or imprinted out of straightforth handwritings of the the bosses or those appointed by the bosses. Yes, both Chinese and Japanese are in Chinese characters. Look at the quality of the calligraphy. Sad but frank for me to say, Japanese beat Chinese by miles. I'd rather half-past-six Chinese bosses or calligraphers to forget about it and use standard fixed fonts or to go hone their calligraphic skills before disgracing Chinese any further. Yes, I'm Chinese. Yes, I feel embarrassed when it's obvious that Japanese can write Chinese better. What I won't do is insisting Chinese can write Chinese better just because I'm Chinese for the pride. The Japanese can learn and improve, why can't Chinese? Why must insist on token pride?

Do you know why modern Chinese people are lacking behind the Japanese in most things? it's because of the communist rule that made Chinese people backward and lacking in morals. Modern China is one of the most powerful nation but has an very negative impact today. Most people like Japan but most people hate China and hate Chinese (with the acception of people from Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, and the Taiwanese who don't considered themselves Chinese). How can the Chinese people improve when there are so much restrictions on the Chinese by the communist government. People from China don't even have human rights or the freedom of speech.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Re: Why don't Singapore PROMOTE Teochew, Hokkien, Hakka, Wu, Gan speaking movie and s

Do you know why modern Chinese people are lacking behind the Japanese in most things? it's because of the communist rule that made Chinese people backward and lacking in morals. Modern China is one of the most powerful nation but has an very negative impact today. Most people like Japan but most people hate China and hate Chinese (with the acception of people from Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, and the Taiwanese who don't considered themselves Chinese). How can the Chinese people improve when there are so much restrictions on the Chinese by the communist government. People from China don't even have human rights or the freedom of speech.

fyi there's a diff bet chinese ethnicity and chinese nationality.

 

[Fook Seng]

fyi there's a diff bet chinese ethnicity and chinese nationality.

Nationality is a fairly recent thing. When China came under the attack by foreign powers, national spirit grew and when the Qing Dynasty could not handle this, the Manchus were overthrown. But starting a new nation was not easy with different groups having different ideologies that eventually led to a split.

Taking only the Mainland, for years they were struggling under communist ideologies until state capitalism took over. As it developed and grew more powerful, the envy of foreign powers again seemed to arouse the nationalistic feelings. Many might predict the disintegration of PRC but it is these negative thinking that will bring it all together.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Re: Why don't Singapore PROMOTE Teochew, Hokkien, Hakka, Wu, Gan speaking movie and s

Nationality is a fairly recent thing. When China came under the attack by foreign powers, national spirit grew and when the Qing Dynasty could not handle this, the Manchus were overthrown. But starting a new nation was not easy with different groups having different ideologies that eventually led to a split.

Taking only the Mainland, for years they were struggling under communist ideologies until state capitalism took over. As it developed and grew more powerful, the envy of foreign powers again seemed to arouse the nationalistic feelings. Many might predict the disintegration of PRC but it is these negative thinking that will bring it all together.

yes but to say that the taiwanese and overseas chinese don't consider themselves chinese i was trying to correct him that it means chinese in nationality.

 

[Fook Seng]

yes but to say that the taiwanese and overseas chinese don't consider themselves chinese i was trying to correct him that it means chinese in nationality.

Personally, I believe Taiwan and Hongkong are only temporarily off the same path as PRC. The pace of change in PRC is much, much faster than what is needed of Taiwan and Hongkong to change to have them all moving in the same direction.

Let's see what the next change of government will bring. My prediction is that within the next ten years, this will become even more clear.

As for the rest of the oversea Chinese, I can only say, we can only talk about ethnicity, not nationality.

 

[Conqueror]

They Left China For Good ?

Do you know why modern Chinese people are lacking behind the Japanese in most things? it's because of the communist rule that made Chinese people backward and lacking in morals. Modern China is one of the most powerful nation but has an very negative impact today. Most people like Japan but most people hate China and hate Chinese (with the acception of people from Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, and the Taiwanese who don't considered themselves Chinese). How can the Chinese people improve when there are so much restrictions on the Chinese by the communist government. People from China don't even have human rights or the freedom of speech.

Both Gong Li and Jet Li left China by renouncing their 'citizenship' and kanna whacked by netizens for being quitters.


Forgive me for waxing political for a moment, but it is really disturbing to think that the Chinese government's One-Child Policy has deprived the world of so many beautiful girls. While this policy has also caused China to lose many potentially fine young men, its prejudice against female children is clear and has led to China having the most unnaturally high ratio of males to females in the world.

This is due to coerced and even flat-out forced abortions of female fetuses as late as 8 1/2 months into the pregnancy as well as infanticide of newborn females. Never mind any philosophical question about when does a life actually begin... I think we can all agree that once a baby is born, killing it is murder.

I guess my point here is that I do not want to be seen as supporting the government of China in any way. Usually, when I do a hub like this, I want everyone to support the actresses fully and see every film they can find featuring those actresses. In the case of this hub, however, I would urge you to not view any film made in China, particularly if by a state sponsored film maker. The One-Child Policy is not the only atrocity being committed by the Chinese government, but I am already being more political than I like to be in a hub that is supposed to focus on beauty.

The last thing I will say about the One-Child Policy before we get to the ladies is this... It would suck to be a man in China, knowing that for every 100 China girls there are 117 China boys competing.

Lucy Liu

 

[Conqueror]

Roc

yes but to say that the taiwanese and overseas chinese don't consider themselves chinese i was trying to correct him that it means chinese in nationality.

 

[Ramseth]

Re: Roc

Taiwanese are not considered oversea Chinese. They're considered simply Chinese. Taiwan is considered a province, both by PRC and ROC, both laying claim to sovereignty of all of China. The status quo is PRC has 20+ provinces on mainalnd and ROC has 1 province left in Taiwan.

 

[Conqueror]

Free The Russian's Way ?

Taiwanese are not considered oversea Chinese. They're considered simply Chinese. Taiwan is considered a province, both by PRC and ROC, both laying claim to sovereignty of all of China. The status quo is PRC has 20+ provinces on mainalnd and ROC has 1 province left in Taiwan.

I hope the people within PRC will change and fight back. But, without an external intervention ... may not be as dramatic as the previous U.S.S.R.

The Romanian way ? Or the Berlin Wall way ?


[video=youtube;MM2qq5J5A1s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM2qq5J5A1s[/video]

 

[Fook Seng]

Taiwanese are not considered oversea Chinese. They're considered simply Chinese. Taiwan is considered a province, both by PRC and ROC, both laying claim to sovereignty of all of China. The status quo is PRC has 20+ provinces on mainalnd and ROC has 1 province left in Taiwan.

The Taiwanese are very sensitive if you call Taiwan a province.

 

[Ramseth]

Re: Why don't Singapore PROMOTE Teochew, Hokkien, Hakka, Wu, Gan speaking movie and s

The Taiwanese are very sensitive if you call Taiwan a province.

Have you seen postal letter envelopes in Taiwan? Taiwan is always written 台湾省。

 

[Fook Seng]

Have you seen postal letter envelopes in Taiwan? Taiwan is always written 台湾省。

Why is Taiwan called ROC?

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Re: Why don't Singapore PROMOTE Teochew, Hokkien, Hakka, Wu, Gan speaking movie and s

I'm just suggesting that we Chinese should improve. My calligraphic rating is good enough to be top ten even in any Japanese or PRC or ROC town. Why? Because I admitted I was not good enough and learnt. Just because they're Japanese and we're Chinese, we insist whatever we're better, that way we'll never learn.

Oh if your calligraphy writing is good enough to be in top 10 and you aren't a jap therefore aren't you an example of chinese having good calligraphy.

Look i'm not here to insist that chinese are better. I don't really know who is actually better but i feel that you need some sources to prove your claims.

 

[Forvendet]

Re: Why don't Singapore PROMOTE Teochew, Hokkien, Hakka, Wu, Gan speaking movie and s

Chinese characters should be abolished for the good of yourselves. What a load of mess of thousands of characters. During the typewriter era, Chinese couldn't even have a typewriter. In this computer era, I understand that it still has to rely on Roman letters input translating software to output Chinese characters on the screen.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Re: Why don't Singapore PROMOTE Teochew, Hokkien, Hakka, Wu, Gan speaking movie and s

Chinese characters should be abolished for the good of yourselves. What a load of mess of thousands of characters. During the typewriter era, Chinese couldn't even have a typewriter. In this computer era, I understand that it still has to rely on Roman letters input translating software to output Chinese characters on the screen.

Oi kuku that's only one way of inputing chinese characters know as hanyu pinyin method. There's many other methods too. Surprised that a mixed breed like you doesn't know that. What language did you study during 2nd language or MT classes?

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Re: Why don't Singapore PROMOTE Teochew, Hokkien, Hakka, Wu, Gan speaking movie and s

try reading this story

 

[Mercury]

Re: Why don't Singapore PROMOTE Teochew, Hokkien, Hakka, Wu, Gan speaking movie and s

yes but to say that the taiwanese and overseas chinese don't consider themselves chinese i was trying to correct him that it means chinese in nationality.

I don't think you understand the whole situation, it's more than just nationality. 51.1% of the Taiwanese population consider themselves only Taiwanese, and refused to be called as Chinese. Everyday the Taiwanese media is looking for faults on mainland China. Taiwanese dislikes Chinese and refused to be called the the brothers of Chinese.

" In recent years, especially after the 1990s, there has been a growth in the number of people identifying themselves as Taiwanese. In polls conducted by the National Chengchi University back in 1991, only 13.6% of respondents identified themselves as Taiwanese. This figure rose to 45.7% in 2004. In contrast, the number of respondents that identified themselves as Chinese was 43.9% in 1991 and fell to just 6.3% in 2004. Half of respondents responded with dual-identity, both Chinese and Taiwanese, and the statistic has remained steady with just a slight decline from 49.7% in 1992 to 45.4% in 2004. In a recent poll dated June 2009, 52.1% of Taiwan's population consider themselvesto be only Taiwanese while 39.2% consider themselves to be both Taiwanese and Chinese and 4.4% consider themselves to be Chinese only. "