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What SO GOOD About Workers Party???



Unless it's a break up within the current govt or a merger between all the opposition parties. Otherwise calling for 2016 for a change of govt is just nothing but a dream.

Wake up... GE department falls under who's portfolio??? Why did PAP forms GRC and don't contest single constituency anymore.... Think before even you wanna scream n yell!!!


The first scenario is only possible if Old Man dies. Then again it is likely they already have safeguards in place to prevent such an event. It would be foolish of LKY not to do so to ensure his son stays in power.

The second scenario is bullshit. WP and NSP are pretty good. The rest seems to be run by whackjobs or troublemakers. I rather they get their seats in parliament before talking about any merger.

Even if these 2 scenarios come true. Barring a earthshaking event. It is unlikely PAP will lose power in 2016. It is better to expect for more opposition representation in parliament to position themselves for the future.

Old news. Most knows about the GE department and the gerrymandering. Thing is we jolly well can't go on strike to show our unhappiness can we?
 
Nobody is sidestepping anything. I was merely asking you to state your point. So what if GCT is chosen by LKY. Things weren't bad under him. You mean you didn't realize most of us are unhappy with PAP now and not twenty or fifty years ago? During GCT time I felt PAP was doing a good job. When LHL took over most of us also believed in giving him time to prove himself. But well well see how it turned out.

It was never bout what WP can do. All they need to do is continue serving the people like how they've been doing all this while. It is the failures of the PAP that drives people to the opposition. WP is a credible opposition that should be positioned to take power to provide a viable alternative to a PAP government when the majority gets fed up with the PAP. WP is good and I have myreasons in feeling so. I see no need to go into them as I believe actions speak louder than words.

OK, based on you above words, can i say that Singaporeans are happy with Goh n Lee senior during their tenure as PM???

If your answer is YES, then why are they so many ppl cursing an swearing at Lee senior??? Or are you trying to take a u-turn now n tell me that NO. "We're not happy under Lee senior but happy under Goh n now unhappy again becoz is Lee junior having the rule".

Yes, actions speaks louder than words. If 50 years of nation building by PAP ain't even being recognized by ppl like you, you mean you're telling me that you recognized that the work done by WP in a small GRC is a higher achievement than nation building???
 


By your sentence "Did the PAP expect to lose a GRC helmed by George Yeo" simply shows your ignorance already....

A frog in the well will always only have a certain angle of the skies only!!!


Check your facts before you post la. George Yeo was the incumbent Aljunied MP in 2011. Only shows everyone your ignorance.
 
It is unlikely PAP will lose power in 2016.

I think you should present the above sentence to your buddy winnipegjets.

Why i don't look upon opposition parties at the moment is what you have mentioned already. Either whack jobs or troublemakers. Which is why I've keep stressing that opposition parties are all fighting to be the snake head.

If the 2 points mentioned by me is not possible like you said, then honestly i don't see PAP being replaced.

Don't forget what Lee senior said : "I'm not worried, I've pass the baton to the next generation".... This sentence already shows what is in the pipeline of his plans already n this plan was not recently but say 10 or 20 years ago.

Knowing that SGs can't go onto the streets, that's why i keep saying dun sit back n be a NATO only... If you can't change the environment, change yourself.

 
OK, based on you above words, can i say that Singaporeans are happy with Goh n Lee senior during their tenure as PM???

If your answer is YES, then why are they so many ppl cursing an swearing at Lee senior??? Or are you trying to take a u-turn now n tell me that NO. "We're not happy under Lee senior but happy under Goh n now unhappy again becoz is Lee junior having the rule".

Yes, actions speaks louder than words. If 50 years of nation building by PAP ain't even being recognized by ppl like you, you mean you're telling me that you recognized that the work done by WP in a small GRC is a higher achievement than nation building???

You stupid or what. Must I spell everything to you before you get it. Eg. You are a CEO of a public listed company. You let your son be CEO to take over you and he screw up. You think ppl wont say lanjiaowei about you meh?

50 years of nation building can be easily undone by 10 years of decadence. 100 years of nation building also useless if the following ten years bring ruin. Get it?
 
Check your facts before you post la. George Yeo was the incumbent Aljunied MP in 2011. Only shows everyone your ignorance.

So sorry, you're to eager again to act smart....

I knew Yeo represented Aljunied since 1988 till 2011 when he lost. What i meant in my sentence should you have not understood clearly was, can't the PMOs or LHL replaced him with another person when PAP knowing that they only have a slim chance of winning Aljunied...

Don't understand, ask.... It's not how you behave when you know, it's how you behave when you dun know.

Like what GoldenDragon says, dun tried to an intellectual giant!!!

 
Knowing that SGs can't go onto the streets, that's why i keep saying dun sit back n be a NATO only... If you can't change the environment, change yourself.

You think I want change because it will benefit me meh? I want change because I believe it will benefit Singapore as a whole.
 
You stupid or what. Must I spell everything to you before you get it. Eg. You are a CEO of a public listed company. You let your son be CEO to take over you and he screw up. You think ppl wont say lanjiaowei about you meh?

50 years of nation building can be easily undone by 10 years of decadence. 100 years of nation building also useless if the following ten years bring ruin. Get it?

Stupidity is shown in your words.

The example of a public listed company i've already quote before already. My example was Cheong Kong Holdings if you have read my earlier post.

CKH were founded by Li Ka-shing n now he pass the baton to his son Li Tze-Koui... Do you mean if any of the CKH subsidiaries lose money, his son have to be replaced by an outsider???

Btw, are SG fallin apart now??? You so sure that WP take over the country wouldn't be ruin???

Don't come out with excuses again like let the WP TRY!!!

 
So sorry, you're to eager again to act smart....

I knew Yeo represented Aljunied since 1988 till 2011 when he lost. What i meant in my sentence should you have not understood clearly was, can't the PMOs or LHL replaced him with another person when PAP knowing that they only have a slim chance of winning Aljunied...

Don't understand, ask.... It's not how you behave when you know, it's how you behave when you dun know.

Like what GoldenDragon says, dun tried to an intellectual giant!!!


This is your statement which I saw:

You mean George Yeo was all the while an MP representing Aljunied or was he a last minute insertion???

So now we must understand clearly that he should have been replaced? I think you simple English to chym for most of us la. So become we act smart, when nobody can grasp what the fuck you trying to say?
 
You think I want change because it will benefit me meh? I want change because I believe it will benefit Singapore as a whole.

Many of you want a change is because of yourselves.... Personal selfishness. Today PAP cannot satisfy you, change to WP, tomolo WP cannot satisfy you, change again... Might as well you guys set up your own party n elect yourself as PM better...

If really you guys love the nation, would you guys be calling your beloved nation Stinkapore or Sinkapore???
 
This is your statement which I saw:



So now we must understand clearly that he should have been replaced? I think you simple English to chym for most of us la. So become we act smart, when nobody can grasp what the fuck you trying to say?

Person of you mentality definitely has problem understanding a full stop or question mark behind a sentence...
 
OK, based on you above words, can i say that Singaporeans are happy with Goh n Lee senior during their tenure as PM???


Wooden Goh promised Swiss Standard of Living, we got that for foreigners while sinkees are saddled with lower standard of living. Old Fart claimed all the credit for work he didn't deserved and put in policies that we are paying the price now.


Yes, actions speaks louder than words. If 50 years of nation building by PAP ain't even being recognized by ppl like you, you mean you're telling me that you recognized that the work done by WP in a small GRC is a higher achievement than nation building???

What nation building? Nation fleecing is the correct description. Ho Jinx lost tens of billions of our money - where is the accountability? She is still there and will lose more billions of our reserves. A scholar from award to death cost the taxpayers $68 million at least. We have about 200 of them in the admin service and about the same number in the uniform groups, the judicial service and MFA. Feeding this pool of 400 cost us $27 billion! And they are adding 10 percent of them every year!
Meanwhile, we are paying more for flats, for food, for utilities, for transportation and for healthcare. That may be nation-building to you, it is the ultimate fleecing for me.
 
Stupidity is shown in your words.

The example of a public listed company i've already quote before already. My example was Cheong Kong Holdings if you have read my earlier post.

CKH were founded by Li Ka-shing n now he pass the baton to his son Li Tze-Koui... Do you mean if any of the CKH subsidiaries lose money, his son have to be replaced by an outsider???

Btw, are SG fallin apart now??? You so sure that WP take over the country wouldn't be ruin???

Don't come out with excuses again like let the WP TRY!!!


Oh really, it depends la, Li Ka Shing has a majority stake in the company. If the majority of Singaporeans are relatives of Mr Lee then he wont be replaced by an outsider lo. It's clear who is truly ignorant, judging by the lousy examples you give.

SG fall apart then we vote them out isit? No wonder you support PAP. Must wait till shit hit the fan before you cry father and mother.

WP try is an excuse? Erm how so? Till now you cannot disprove letting them try is bad. The only half baked one you can think of is you 'think' they will be drunk by their success. Giving some ramshod example of how you think they will act when they gain power.
 
Many of you want a change is because of yourselves.... Personal selfishness. Today PAP cannot satisfy you, change to WP, tomolo WP cannot satisfy you, change again... Might as well you guys set up your own party n elect yourself as PM better...

Sinkees have been stupid enough to stick with the PAP for 48 years!!!!
Personal selfishness? Everyone is entitled to decide which party serves their interest. You don't have a right to impose on others. Let the majority decide and you accept that.

If really you guys love the nation, would you guys be calling your beloved nation Stinkapore or Sinkapore???
I want a nation that is NOT synonymous with the party. Until that day happens, the two names fit the tiny dot well.
 
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Person of you mentality definitely has problem understanding a full stop or question mark behind a sentence...

Go ask anybody in this forum whether they understand what you say lo.

I still remember your A and B respectively in 2000 and 2008 means A was in 2008.

If you cannot speak coherently, just admit it. Instead you come up with 101 explanations.
 
Person of you mentality definitely has problem understanding a full stop or question mark behind a sentence...

This is before:

By your sentence "Did the PAP expect to lose a GRC helmed by George Yeo" simply shows your ignorance already.... You mean George Yeo was all the while an MP representing Aljunied or was he a last minute insertion???

A frog in the well will always only have a certain angle of the skies only!!!

This is after:


By your sentence "Did the PAP expect to lose a GRC helmed by George Yeo" simply shows your ignorance already....

A frog in the well will always only have a certain angle of the skies only!!!

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And this is your explanation:

So sorry, you're to eager again to act smart....

I knew Yeo represented Aljunied since 1988 till 2011 when he lost. What i meant in my sentence should you have not understood clearly was, can't the PMOs or LHL replaced him with another person when PAP knowing that they only have a slim chance of winning Aljunied...

Don't understand, ask.... It's not how you behave when you know, it's how you behave when you dun know.

Like what GoldenDragon says, dun tried to an intellectual giant!!!

You explain to us what you mean lo. I'm very interested to hear.
 
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First, you was the one who jumped into here trying to show how competent you are with your words. If you're not speaking up for other forummers, then you wouldn't be replying me on the salary issues. To you definitely is funny, cause you're jumping into a thread started by me and then follow by saying you're not speaking for others.

What has entering a thread got to do with speaking up for others or not?

To ask you to check the word CHEAP is due to your previous reply to me which i dun think i need to further cut n paste to show u.

Yes, please cut and paste if you need to booster your arguments.

Only people like you would like to find excuse to cover your own mistakes.

You can always point out my mistakes, but not add words into my mouth or distort what I say then call those a mistake. It's giving a dog a bad name and hang it.

Dun have to try n play with words, it don't bring you anywhere. Initially there was a member who claimed that by having opposition in the parliament, checks can be done which i reply saying that if no opposition is in the cabinet, it's hard. I even brought up the case of CSJ that he mentioned about that and you tried to play with words claiming that i say he's an MP which obviously i knew he wasn't.

My position remains. When we talked about checks in parliament which you said was ineffective, you should not have cited Chee as an example. You could have cited Chiam, Steve Chia or Low.

Now you tried to play with your words again by claiming that I say public outcry can be a good check. A english professor should have understood simple english. The point i'm putting across is to answer for those people who mentioned that putting opposition into parliament for checks. So what i meant was, if such actions was merely to pressure PAP for transparency, it doesn't definitely need an opposition, a public outcry will be enough as well to serve as pressure to the current govt for greater transparency. I believed public outcry will be more efficient than just a few opposition in parliament shouting for transparency.

You are the one playing with words and semantics. You say public outcry is not a good check on government but can pressure the government. Do you have any idea what are you saying? Isn't the role of a good check to pressure the government?

Anyway, let me quote what you earlier said and we'll let other people interprete for themselves:
Calling for checks need not to be only called in the parliament. Any sensible person knows that it can be a public out cry as well. When talking about checks, it's the citizens money. So it's regardless of who is calling for a check.

Again, show me the sentence that I've mentioned Tung Chee Wah was a good businessman.

Yes, you didn't say you say Tung was a good businessman. I already said that. But this is what you said:
The first Chief Executive of HK Dong Kin-Wah was a businessman too. All the rich man including Li Ka-Shing push this uncle Dong to be the CE but eventually fail. What i want to say here is, a good biz man doesn't mean will make a gd politician.
We will let others be the judge of what this statement means.

The sentence that you wrote above i remembered it was written after i wrote Tung was a businessman n never mentioned that he was bad or good. Again a person like you with such "POWDEFUL ENGLISH" proficiency can't even understand a simple sentence? The sentence after Tung that i wrote meant that ANY good biz man doesn't mean will make a gd politician. Maybe just becoz i didn't insert the word ANY, a person like you with such "great english proficiency" can't understand.

Again, my position remains. When mentioning good businessmen, you cited Tung who is a bad businessman. Wrong example used.

In conclusion, Low Thia Khiang who is a good businessman makes a potential good minister. I hope my point is not obscured because of using Tung as a distraction.

By trying to be a "GREAT ENGLISH TUTOR" in this forum, ain't you trying to pretend???

Is it the nature of PAP supporters to resort to personal attacks and labelling when they cannot win an argument?

Why not you give those opposition some good tuition on the vulgarities they used so often. Come out with something new and not just the same old CCB or KNN.

Don't worry. When the time calls for it, the time will come.
 
Don't talk until as if you have the nation interest at heart. By using the word Sinkie land, you already show your selfishness...

You're not looking for a new govt to bring SG forward. You're looking for a govt to satisfy yourself n your greeds...


See you start attacking person rather than putting forward your view and logic.
As a free man, I have the rights to use words for emphasizing my view.
My choice of words never attacks persons, races, countries or religions.

You check all my posts toward you, and point me out which phrase has my own interest!
I trust my points are for sinkie land and sinkies.
Definitely those are not for riches, elites and cronies who prosper under pappies' rules.
 
Like I have mentioned, saying is easy.
sorry you may have said it before but it certainly did not originate from you. so dun make it like you are damned smart like that

Ppl like you want a change of govt, no problem.... But Workers Party are not formed yesterday, how well have they performed since the last 20 years in GE against the PAP???
your question above is valid if we have a fair election system. so the question is, do we?

btw are we talking about good politicians or professional, full time, seasoned election candidate? dun waste my time if you are thinking of me providing eg of good politicians who lost election

If one person continues to vote for PAP, the problem lies with that person but till today, more than 60% are still voting for the PAP...

You mean you're the only clever person in SG that knows putting an opposition party in parliament is good???
again the prerequisite of your question above is a fair election system.

but even with the help of an unfair election system, the consistent loss of support is already a clear enough, good enough indicator that the problem actually lies with those that are still voting for the white scums

If WP are unsuccessful after being elected, you ppl will again cry father cry mother over here.... Until now, all the clowns that call for a change of govt only used one word "TRY".... You think buying 4D or TOTO izit
disagree. if wp is crap they would be voted out

on the other hand, the white scums have been crap for the longest time already. why they are still in power with >90% control of parliament is because of the question on election system
 
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