You are building a new religious system -God know what? - fear of God, technology is a sin? More deadly than a cult?
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You are building a new religious system -God know what? - fear of God, technology is a sin? More deadly than a cult?
.............. word for dennomination is division). God forbids the Church, the Body of Christ to be divided. Do you understand now? Are you clear now? If you don't, go and ask your senior pastor.[/quote]
Nah! I give you permission to access to these senior pastors, you can send your messages to be edited by these names below:
The Very Revd Kuan Kim Seng
The Revd Canon Dr Louis Tay
The Revd Ng Koon Sheng
and here is their email: [email protected]
Just mention tanwahtiu from Sammyboy will do just fine.
Courtesy: http://www.livingstreams.org.sg/sac/directory.html
Nah! I give you permission to access to these senior pastors, you can send your messages to be edited by these names below:
The Very Revd Kuan Kim Seng
The Revd Canon Dr Louis Tay
The Revd Ng Koon Sheng
and here is their email: [email protected]
Just mention tanwahtiu from Sammyboy will do just fine.
Courtesy: http://www.livingstreams.org.sg/sac/directory.html
Whether I am building a 'new religion' or not and whether my messages like Fear of God is biblical and scriptural, to find out the answer is very simple.
You claim you know a senior pastor. Just send to him some of my messages on those subjects - about fear of God, the greed of human i.e. BP leak, etc or alternatively send to him the hypertext of sammboy forum where my messages are located and he can tell you.
I am prepared to be disciplined by church members if my sharing of God's Word is deviant in nature and contrary to the Bible. Please point out to me exactly when I am wrong doctrinally. I am prepared to apologize, to repent if my doctrine as thought in the Bible is not correct. There is no need to use name calling one another.
Going back to my initial posting in July 2009, I have appealed to thread readers not we should not use any abuse language nor insulting words in the thread under Today's Scripture Reading. Quite unfortunately my threads have deteriorated to this point - some of us have to bear the responsibilities that the 'quality of the thread' has deteriorated and I want to stand up to say that I have a part in this making.......so do others.
(I like to say that people like IR123, Ecclessiastes-the-teacher as well as few others have no part in making the thread deteriorated to this manner. These people have well-intended objectives to also share the Word of God to others and they are truly civilized people who have written the messages in civilzed and godily manner. We need more of these people to come in to Sammyboy forum!)
God bless.
Nah! I give you permission to access to these senior pastors, you can send your messages to be edited by these names below:
The Very Revd Kuan Kim Seng
The Revd Canon Dr Louis Tay
The Revd Ng Koon Sheng
and here is their email: [email protected]
Just mention tanwahtiu from Sammyboy will do just fine.
Courtesy: http://www.livingstreams.org.sg/sac/directory.html[/QUOTE]
See my latest post....I don't think I need to do that. If they are interested, they can go and read for themselves and they can tell me or others where I have gone wrong after all my messages are in the public domain.
May be a better suggestion is for you to meet up with them and let them share with you about the Truth of the Bible, that Jesus is God and you too can share with them about praying to ancestors.
See my latest post....I don't think I need to do that. If they are interested, they can go and read for themselves and they can tell me or others where I have gone wrong after all my messages are in the public domain.
May be a better suggestion is for you to meet up with them and let them share with you about the Truth of the Bible, that Jesus is God and you too can share with them about praying to ancestors.[/quote]
you keep pestering for senior pastors and now you get load of them to access. Eh! still not good enough for you is it?
OK lah! go to mother of all churches - http://www.vatican.va/phome_en.htm
Contact Pope Benedict in the above web site and just mention tanwahtiu from Sammyboy will do just fine.
you keep pestering for senior pastors and now you get load of them to access. Eh! still not good enough for you is it?
OK lah! go to mother of all churches - http://www.vatican.va/phome_en.htm
Contact Pope Benedict in the above web site and just mention tanwahtiu from Sammyboy will do just fine.[/QUOTE]
From Psalm23:
Hope that this will not create anymore controversy or 'firework'....But I need to put on records .... I have never asked for any pastor....I sincerely believe my messages are scriptural and biblical. However if they are not biblical or scriptural, I am prepare to repent...but the discussion must be in civilized manner.
I am not into recruitment....I am just a retired person who just want to give my service to God....by sharing His Gospel....nothing more, nothing less. The reason why I don't disclose which church or which denomination for a very simple reason....I am NOT recruiting any members of my church nor for any 'denomination'. In fact, the intent of my messages is for those who are already Christians. As Christians brothers and sisters we need to encourage one another in our walk with our Lord Jesus......nothing more nothing less. That's the reason why I used the title in the thread: Today's Scripture Reading because I believe this title will only attract Christians to read the threads. Certainly, I cannot stop others to read them if they want to.
(Frankly, I wouldn't bother if a Buddhist or a Buddhist monk will to write about Buddha, about reincarnation (which is against the Bible teachings), I wouldn't be bother to dispute what they write. It's up to those who read them to believe or not.)
Going back....I believe you were the one wanting me to send to you my messages first so that you can send to your 'senior pastors'. It was your request, not my initiation.
I just want to put on records...no intention to create anymore controversy.
I respect the religious system of others...so too I expect others to respect my.
[Please use the message here as the Lord leads, but nothing on the message must be used for profit!]
Today’s Scripture Reading [August 29, 2010]
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. [Matthew 24:14. KJV]
“And this gospel of the kingdom ….. (Matthew 23:14a)”. What is this ‘gospel’ that Jesus was referring to? The answer to this question can be found in the Book of New Testament and in particular the first four books, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. It is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is about Jesus who was born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, tortured and died on the cross, resurrected three days day later and after forty days, He was ascended to heaven to be with God the Father. These are the basic doctrinal truth of the gospel and without it, we will not be able to see God. All born-Christians are united in these beliefs as laid down in His Word, the Bible.
Nonetheless, we do sometimes hear that when a Christian professes his faith, he uses statements like: I am a Methodist; I am an Anglican; or I am a Lutheran. These statements on denominations (or divisions) of church affiliation have caused confusions of varying degrees among Christians; many non-believers are even more ‘confused’ by what this ‘denomination’ is all about. In 1 Corinthians 3: 4-9, Apostle Paul has cautioned us that ‘dividing the body of Christ’ through the use of denomination or division is carnal. It is the work of man and not of God. Hence, regardless of your ‘denomination’, whether you are a Methodist, an Anglican, a Lutheran or a Presbyterian, we must all remember that we are members of the Body of Christ, His Church, and there is only one Body of Christ. Admittely, churches need to give a name for vavrious reasons, one being to satisfy legislation as organizations are required to be registered as a legal requirement in many countries. We must therefore attempt to just let the use of the name of the church be used to satisfy the legal requirements of the country in which the church is based and not to use to divide the Body of Christ.
It is my believe that the following Statements of Beliefs that are based on the Holy Bible should be used to unite us. In addition, these Statements of Beliefs can provide us with sound doctrines to our Christian beliefs and our understanding of who God is and why He sent His Son, Jesus, to die for our sin (John 3:16a). We must be mindful that as believers of the Gospel of Jesus Christ it is all about our relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ and of His Truth. It is not about denomination. Sadly, the singleness and resplendent beauty of God’s church has been obscured by the various denominational organizations that called themselves ‘churches.
The Gospel
The gospel is the message preached by Christ and His church. Its focus is God's purpose and plan to reproduce Himself. Jesus Christ, John the Baptist and the apostles generally call it the "gospel of the Kingdom of God" but biblical writers use over a dozen other titles to describe it. Ultimately, it is the complete message of the entire Old and New Testaments, containing the message of what God the Father, His Son, and the Holy Spirit have done, are doing and will do to accomplish their purpose. It contains detailed information on the King, subjects, laws and territory of the Kingdom of God and how mankind can become part of it.
Scripture References:
Matthew 3:2; Matthew 24:14; Mark 1:14; Acts 28:31; Romans 1:1,16; Romans 2:16; Romans 15:16; Ephesians 1:13; Ephesians 6:15; Revelation 14:6.
The Eternal God Family
God is the eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, supreme, all-powerful, creating, ruling and life-giving spirit Family (Elohim). It is one and perfect in character, love, and purpose. Through its plan for mankind, its overall purpose is to expand the Eternal God Family and thereby share its magnificent glory for all eternity. Presently, the God Family consists of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
Scripture References:
Genesis 1:1,26; Deuteronomy 6:4; Nehemiah 9:6-8; Psalms 2:2, 7, 12; Psalms 8:1-9; Psalms 19:1; Psalms 110:1; Psalms 139:1-10; Isaiah 40:12-17, 25-26; Isaiah 44:6; Daniel 7:9-10; John 1:1, 14; John 4:24; John 14:8-9; Romans 1:20; Romans 8:29; Ephesians 1:3-5, 9-10; Ephesians 3:14-15; Colossians 1:12-18.
God the Father
God the Father is the supreme Ruler of the universe. He is the object and focus of our worship and the Being to whom His children pray. He sent Jesus Christ to the earth and instructed Him as to what to say and do. The Father's purpose is to be reconciled to His creation and to bring many sons and daugthers to glory. The Father accomplishes His will by means of the Holy Spirit by which He calls, regenerates, and through the process of conversion, transforms His new children into His image. He is directly involved in the life of each individual He calls, and imparts to them His holy characteristics as they yield to Him.
Scripture References:
Psalm 110:1; Daniel 7:9-14; Matthew 11:27; John 1:1-2; John 5:17, 20, 22-23, 36-37, 43; John 6:44; John 8:27-29, 38; John 10:18, 29; John 12:50; John 14:8-9, 28; John 16:27; John 17:5, 20-21; I Corinthians 15:24-28; Ephesians 3:14-15; Ephesians 4:4-6; Hebrews 1:1-2; Hebrews 2:3-9; Revelation 21:22-23; Revelation 22:1,3.
God the Son
Jesus of Nazareth is the God of the Old Testament, the Christ, God incarnate, the prophesied Messiah, the Savior of mankind. He exists eternally with the Father, and all things were created through Him and for Him. Before His human birth, He revealed Himself to the patriarchs as "the Eternal" (YHWH) and by a variety of other names. He divested Himself of the majesty of His office to become human by means of birth to the virgin Mary. Though tempted in all points like other men, He lived sinlessly throughout His life, giving Himself to be crucified as the perfect atonement for mankind's transgressions of God's laws. After three days and three nights in the grave, He was resurrected as a divine spirit Being and ascended to the Father's right hand in heaven, becoming our High Priest, Advocate and Mediator before the Father. As such, He is technically the Dispenser of the Holy Spirit. He is now Head of the Church, and shall return soon as King of kings and Lord of lords to establish the Kingdom of God on earth, sharing His rule with His resurrected brothers and sisters.
Scripture References:
John 1:1-3, 10, 14, 29-36; John 8:53-58; Colossians 1:13-20; John 3:16; Romans 5:8-9; Acts 2:33-35; John 15:26; John 16:7; Ephesians 4:7-8; I John 2:1-2; Hebrews 1:1-4; Hebrews 2:9-14; Hebrews 4:14-16; Hebrews 9:11-15; Ephesians 1:19-23; Philippians 2:5-7; Matthew 12:40; I Thessalonians 4:16; Revelation 5:9-10; Revelation 11:15; Revelation 19:11-16;
God The Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is the power of God and He is part of the Godhead (or part of a Trinity). It is the mind and essence of the divine nature and the spiritual extension of God through which He carries out His will. Bestowed upon or poured out upon individuals, it causes regeneration of God’s children. God's Spirit empowers the mind to comprehend spiritual matters, producing conversion. It leads us into all truth; convicts us of sin and righteousness; and imparts faith, the love of God, power to overcome sin and other gifts essential to do His will. It is the earnest or guarantee of eternal life.
Scripture References:
Genesis 1:2; Psalm 104:30; Isaiah 11:2; 32:15; 40:13; Ezekiel 39:29; Joel 2:28-29; John 7:37-39; Luke 24:49; Acts 1:8; 8:15-17; Romans 8:9-14; John 14:16-17, 26; I Corinthians 2:9-16; 12:4-11; II Timothy 1:6-7; II Peter 1:2-4; Ephesians 1:13-14.
The Bible
The written Word of God, the Holy Bible, constitutes the revelation of God to man, and is profitable for man's complete spiritual knowledge, understanding and growth to salvation. Holy men of God, inspired by the Holy Spirit through various means, recorded the truth revealed to them. Transmitted to us fundamentally free of error, God's Word is true and pure. The whole canon of Scripture, completed with the book of Revelation, includes the sixty-six books of the combined Old and New Testaments. Its basic purpose is to reveal God, His purpose and the process of salvation to man. The Bible, however, is not philosophy to be freely interpreted, but by gathering all pertinent scriptures, using sound reason and the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, one can understand God's intent and meaning.
Scripture References:
II Timothy 3:15-17; II Peter 1:21; Hebrews 1:1-2; John 17:17; Proverbs 30:5; Matthew 5:18; John 10:35; Isaiah 8:16; Luke 24:44-45; Revelation 22:18-19; II Peter 1:20; Isaiah 28:9-11; I Thessalonians 5:21; Psalm 119:33-40, 97-99, 172.
Mankind
Humans, created male and female in God's image and mortal, are physical beings whose life is in the blood. However, God imparted a spirit essence to humans, empowering man with intellect and setting him far above the animals. This human spirit enables God to join His Spirit with man's so he might become a child of God. When a man dies, his conscious thoughts cease, his spirit returns to God who gave it and his body returns to dust. God's purpose for man is that he enter the Family of God by means of a spiritual birth upon baptism and receipt of the Holy Spirit, and later be changed to spirit in a resurrection from the dead to immortality and glory.
Scripture References:
Genesis 1:26-27; 2:7, 17; 3:19; Psalm 146:3-4; Ecclesiastes 3:19; Ezekiel 18:4, 20; Job 32:8; Zechariah 12:1; I Corinthians 2:11; Hebrews 12:28; I Timothy 6:15-16; Romans 8:29; I Corinthians 15:44, 50-54.
Sin
Sin is the transgression of God's law. It has a broad application in that sin can be defined as all unrighteousness, missing the mark or falling short of the character of God. Whatever is not of faith is sin, and when a person knows to do good but does not do it, it is sin. The penalty for sin is death in the Lake of Fire. Unpardonable sin is the willful, knowledgeable and continued transgression of the commandments of God. It also includes the willful rejection of God's salvation and blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, which is despising the works God does by the power of His Spirit and attributing them to Satan. These sins are unpardonable because the person will not repent. All sins can be forgiven by God's mercy through the blood of Jesus Christ.
Scripture References:
I John 3:4; 5:17; Ephesians 2:1; Romans 14:23; James 4:17; Romans 6:23; Revelation 20:14; Galatians 5:19-21; Matthew 12:31; Hebrews 10:26-29; I John 1:7, 9; Romans 8:1-3.
Satan and Demons
Originally created as Lucifer and given great powers and beauty, Satan became transformed into the Adversary through pride, leading him into rebellion against the government of God. From the angels first estate here on earth, he led one-third of his fellows to attack God in heaven, who cast them down to earth in defeat where they remain restrained to this day. As the god of this world and man's mortal enemy, Satan now uses his power and beauty to deceive all of mankind. He and his demons, though they have already been defeated and their fate is sealed, are doing all they can to frustrate God's purpose for man.
Scripture References:
Ezekiel 28:14-17; Isaiah 14:12-15; Jude 6; II Peter 2:4; II Corinthians 4:4; Revelation 12:4, 9; Luke 22:31; Ephesians 6:12; Jude 13; Revelation 20:10.
Salvation
Salvation, a freely given gift from God the Father, is the means by which a person is saved from the penalty of sin and given eternal life. The process of salvation begins with God's calling, opening the mind to spiritual truth. This leads to reconciliation with God through faith in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, then to repentance toward God, baptism, receipt of the Holy Spirit, sanctification unto holiness through a life of overcoming, and rebirth and glorification as God. Though salvation cannot be earned through works of the law, the keeping of the Ten Commandments is nonetheless required as a condition to receive salvation. Everyone, at the time God chooses, will have an opportunity for salvation.
Scripture References:
Ephesians 2:4-10; John 6:44-45; Acts 20:21; Romans 5:8-11; 6:1-6, 15-18; Ephesians 1:13-14; II Thessalonians 2:13-14; I Peter 1:2; II Corinthians 7:1; Hebrews 12:14; Ephesians 1:13-14; II Thessalonians 2:13-14; I Peter 1:2; II Corinthians 7:1; Hebrews 12:14; Romans 8:29-30; II Corinthians 3:18; I John 3:1-2; I Corinthians 15:35, 42-44; Romans 2:12-13; James 1:25; Matthew 19:17; John 14:15; I Corinthians 15:21-23, 50-54; Revelation 20:4-15.
Repentance
Repentance is deep contrition of mind and spirit over one's spiritual condition, combined with resolve to change what one is and does. The goodness of God leads one to repentance, which begins when God enables one to see himself in comparison to Him. Only then can one acknowledge that he is a sinner in need of forgiveness. Repentance is the first step in reconciliation with God. It moves one to confess his sin, and with deep desire, conform his life to God's will as revealed in the Holy Bible. Repentance occurs, not just once, but continuously as we grow in the knowledge of God.
Scripture References:
Jeremiah 17:9; Matthew 9:13; II Corinthians 7:9-11; Romans 2:4; II Timothy 2:25; Acts 20:21; Luke 13:3, 5; Psalm 51; Mark 1:15; Luke 24:47; Acts 2:37-38; 3:19; 11:18.
Going on to Perfection
God intends conversion to be a growth process with the aim or goal to become like Christ. The process includes yielding to God to be led by His Spirit to get rid of materialism, self-centeredness, bad habits of character and bad attitudes. In their place, God desires growth in the fruits of the spirit, especially in love toward God and love of the brethren. This doctrine comprises the bulk of the behavioral instruction, correction, exhortation and admonition of the Bible.
Scripture References:
Hebrews 6:1; 5:10-12; Matthew 5:48; Hebrews 2:10; 5:9; 13:21; James 1:4; II Corinthians 13:9; I Peter 2:2; II Peter 3:18; Ephesians 4:7-15.
Resurrections
Death is a reality all must eventually face, but the hope of all Christians and the promise of the Father is the resurrection from the dead. The Bible plainly identifies two types of resurrections: special acts of mercy by God in which He raised people back to physical life, and the spiritual resurrections to eternal life. The best known resurrection is Jesus Christ's triumph over death. When He returns, He will resurrect the saints to eternal life. After the thousand years of His reign, He will resurrect to physical life all who have not had an opportunity for salvation. Finally, the incorrigibly wicked will be physically resurrected to be consumed in the Lake of Fire.
Scripture References:
Job 14:14-15; 19:25-26; Daniel 12:2-3; Matthew 27:52-53; Mark 5:35-42; Acts 9:40-41; 20:7-12; John 5:28-29; 11:20-24; I Corinthians 15:3-8, 20-23, 51-52; I Thessalonians 4:13-17; Revelation 20:4-6; Ezekiel 37:1-14; Revelation 20:11-15; II Peter 3:10-12.
Faith
Faith is the active belief in the existence of God and the dynamic trust in His Word. God commands us to live by faith. As the foundation of the process, it is essential for salvation. Without faith it is impossible to please God because, as man's foundational response to God, it leads to obedience and the completion of God's purpose. Because of faith in Christ's blood, we are forgiven, and righteousness is imputed to us. Both a gift of God and a fruit of His Spirit, faith is perfected through the good works God has ordained.
Scripture References:
Romans 1:17; Hebrews 10:37-39; I Peter 1:5, 9; Hebrews 11:1-6; Ephesians 2:4-10; Romans 4:5, 9-13, 20-22; Romans 5:8-11; I Corinthians 12:4, 9; Romans 12:3; Galatians 5:22; James 2:14-26; II Corinthians 5:7.
Water Baptism
Water baptism is by immersion after genuine repentance and acceptance of Jesus Christ as personal Savior. It symbolizes the death and burial of a sinner into the death and burial of Jesus Christ. Rising out of the watery grave symbolizes His resurrection. Also symbolizing purification, baptism prepares one for the receipt of the Holy Spirit. When one rises from his watery grave, he is to be a new person, led by God's Spirit and conducting his life according to God's way.
Scripture References:
Matthew 3:13-16; 28:19-20; Acts 2:38; 8:12-17; Romans 6:1-7; Colossians 2:12.
The Kingdom of God
The Kingdom of God is the creating and ruling Family of God soon to administer the government of God on earth. Though the Kingdom of God does not now rule the earth, those who have God's Spirit are under its rule in their lives. When Jesus Christ returns, He will reestablish its rule on earth, and the saints, resurrected as spirit kings and priests, will reign with Him for a thousand years. Following the second death and the Lake of Fire, the Kingdom will be completely fulfilled when God the Father descends from heaven to rule for all eternity from New Jerusalem.
Scripture References:
Daniel 2:44; Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:1-10; Micah 4:1-4; Mark 4:11; John 3:3-7; I Corinthians 15:50-54; Colossians 1:13; Hebrews 11:13-16; Matthew 25:31; 20:21; Revelation 2:26; 5:10; 19:16; 20:4-6, 12-15; 21:1-2.
Laws and Commandments of God
The laws of God are written expressions of the character, mind and will of God for His people. They appear in both Old and New Testaments, teaching how to love and worship God, love fellow man and prepare for eternal life in the Family of God. They cover both physical actions and spiritual motivations. The Ten Commandments were given directly by God Himself, codified by Moses and magnified and ratified by Jesus Christ. A perfect spiritual law, they are always in force whether or not a person is aware of them. Obedience to them brings blessings; disobedience brings curses. To transgress them is to sin and incur the death penalty. Keeping God's law, thus showing one's submission to the government of God, is a condition for eternal life.
Scripture References:
Psalm 19:7-11; Romans 7:7-12, 14; Exodus 20:1-17; Psalm 119:172; John 15:14; I John 2:2-3; 5:2-3; Matthew 22:36-40; Isaiah 42:21; Matthew 5:17-32; 19:17; Deuteronomy 30:15-20; 28:1-15; I John 3:4; Revelation 22:14.
Eternal Judgment
One's judgment occurs throughout the time of his opportunity for salvation. Beginning with God opening the individual's mind to understand His way of life, the judgment extends to the end of his life, and its consequences are eternal. God looks upon the heart, mercifully judging a person based on his attitude, his knowledge of God and His way, his application of what he understands, and his personal relationship with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. By this judgment, God determines who will be in His Family.
Scripture References:
Hebrews 6:2; I Samuel 16:7; Hebrews 9:27; Hebrews 10:26-27; I Peter 4:17; Romans 2:16; Acts 10:42; John 5:26-30; Romans 14:10-12; II Corinthians 5:10; Matthew 11:20-24; Matthew 12:41-42; Ezekiel 37:12-14; Revelation 20:5-6, 11-14.
Grace
God's grace is the dynamic of salvation. Grace expresses God's freely given gifts. It is present, not just in the forgiveness of sin, but through the entire process of salvation. Grace gives to the called whatever is necessary to enable God's purpose for them to succeed. Men have always been saved by grace through faith.
Scripture References:
Genesis 6:8; Exodus 33:12-17; Hebrews 4:16; 13:9; Romans 3:24; 4:4, 16; 5:2, 15; 11:5-6; 12:3, 6; I Peter 4:10; II Peter 1:2; 3:18; I Corinthians 12:4-11;
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[No claim of absolute originality is made for these Statements of Beliefs. I do, however, personally subscribe to these Beliefs because they are doctrinally and biblically sound based on the Inspired Word of God, the Bible.]
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From Psalm23:
Hope that this will not create anymore controversy or 'firework'....But I need to put on records .... I have never asked for any pastor....I sincerely believe my messages are scriptural and biblical. However if they are not biblical or scriptural, I am prepare to repent...but the discussion must be in civilized manner.
I am not into recruitment....I am just a retired person who just want to give my service to God....by sharing His Gospel....nothing more, nothing less. The reason why I don't disclose which church or which denomination for a very simple reason....I am NOT recruiting any members of my church nor for any 'denomination'. In fact, the intent of my messages is for those who are already Christians. As Christians brothers and sisters we need to encourage one another in our walk with our Lord Jesus......nothing more nothing less. That's the reason why I used the title in the thread: Today's Scripture Reading because I believe this title will only attract Christians to read the threads. Certainly, I cannot stop others to read them if they want to.
(Frankly, I wouldn't bother if a Buddhist or a Buddhist monk will to write about Buddha, about reincarnation (which is against the Bible teachings), I wouldn't be bother to dispute what they write. It's up to those who read them to believe or not.)
Going back....I believe you were the one wanting me to send to you my messages first so that you can send to your 'senior pastors'. It was your request, not my initiation.
I just want to put on records...no intention to create anymore controversy.
I respect the religious system of others...so too I expect others to respect my.[/quote]
There is never been a controversy only target at your messages to merely help you improve your messages. Since you cloned Goodnews, we just handle the clone as it comes. It is you that attack the other religions just to prove your points - what tang kee and the monkey things! your pretent ignorance of Confucius and make fun of Chinese people don't tknow about Kong Fu Zhi can only come from a sore Christian.
Go back read my first fre postings and read how you response to it. The Christian religion has many divisions (denominations) and from it forms their own doctrines and beleive in the Bible, though they may read from the same Bible but interpreted in differently.
As long as you wish to deliver your biblical messages you must have a doctrine like ALL churches or Christian groups. That is the fundamental agreement bewtween ALL churches.
This applies to the Muslims as well and I believe if you deliver your Islamic messages in this section using the Koran, the fundamental Muslims will ask you for credentials and which Sect you belong to. Fair dinkum.
Psalm23 says
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. [Matthew 24:14. KJV]
“And this gospel of the kingdom ….. (Matthew 23:14a)”. What is this ‘gospel’ that Jesus was referring to? The answer to this question can be found in the Book of New Testament and in particular the first four books, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. It is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is about Jesus who was born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, tortured and died on the cross, resurrected three days day later and after forty days, He was ascended to heaven to be with God the Father. These are the basic doctrinal truth of the gospel and without it, we will not be able to see God. All born-Christians are united in these beliefs as laid down in His Word, the Bible.
Nonetheless, we do sometimes hear that when a Christian professes his faith, he uses statements like: I am a Methodist; I am an Anglican; or I am a Lutheran. These statements on denominations (or divisions) of church affiliation have caused confusions of varying degrees among Christians; many non-believers are even more ‘confused’ by what this ‘denomination’ is all about. In 1 Corinthians 3: 4-9, Apostle Paul has cautioned us that ‘dividing the body of Christ’ through the use of denomination or division is carnal. It is the work of man and not of God. Hence, regardless of your ‘denomination’, whether you are a Methodist, an Anglican, a Lutheran or a Presbyterian, we must all remember that we are members of the Body of Christ, His Church, and there is only one Body of Christ. Admittely, churches need to give a name for vavrious reasons, one being to satisfy legislation as organizations are required to be registered as a legal requirement in many countries. We must therefore attempt to just let the use of the name of the church be used to satisfy the legal requirements of the country in which the church is based and not to use to divide the Body of Christ.
You are downplaying the need of denomination in Christian religion. THE RC believed in Saints but many churches don't. As such there is split between RC and many churches and Protestant is the first church the lead the split ( over re-marrying).
You need to have a nick in the forum and you call youself Psalm23. So no diif if you wish to deliver God messages here you need to state who you link to or you wish to form a new denomination.
It is my believe that the following Statements of Beliefs that are based on the Holy Bible should be used to unite us. In addition, these Statements of Beliefs can provide us with sound doctrines to our Christian beliefs and our understanding of who God is and why He sent His Son, Jesus, to die for our sin (John 3:16a). We must be mindful that as believers of the Gospel of Jesus Christ it is all about our relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ and of His Truth. It is not about denomination. Sadly, the singleness and resplendent beauty of God’s church has been obscured by the various denominational organizations that called themselves ‘churches.
That is the way of life, and for anyone like you who wishes to deliver God messages must state his/her doctine and what they interepret in the Bible.
The Gospel
The gospel is the message preached by Christ and His church. Its focus is God's purpose and plan to reproduce Himself. Jesus Christ, John the Baptist and the apostles generally call it the "gospel of the Kingdom of God" but biblical writers use over a dozen other titles to describe it. Ultimately, it is the complete message of the entire Old and New Testaments, containing the message of what God the Father, His Son, and the Holy Spirit have done, are doing and will do to accomplish their purpose. It contains detailed information on the King, subjects, laws and territory of the Kingdom of God and how mankind can become part of it.
Scripture References:
Matthew 3:2; Matthew 24:14; Mark 1:14; Acts 28:31; Romans 1:1,16; Romans 2:16; Romans 15:16; Ephesians 1:13; Ephesians 6:15; Revelation 14:6.
The Eternal God Family
God is the eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, supreme, all-powerful, creating, ruling and life-giving spirit Family (Elohim). It is one and perfect in character, love, and purpose. Through its plan for mankind, its overall purpose is to expand the Eternal God Family and thereby share its magnificent glory for all eternity. Presently, the God Family consists of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
Hello! where you get this refence from God family? 1st time Uncle Tanxxx heard this. God is God and he is either a father nor a Son and either is he a tang kee (spirit).
Scripture References:
Genesis 1:1,26; Deuteronomy 6:4; Nehemiah 9:6-8; Psalms 2:2, 7, 12; Psalms 8:1-9; Psalms 19:1; Psalms 110:1; Psalms 139:1-10; Isaiah 40:12-17, 25-26; Isaiah 44:6; Daniel 7:9-10; John 1:1, 14; John 4:24; John 14:8-9; Romans 1:20; Romans 8:29; Ephesians 1:3-5, 9-10; Ephesians 3:14-15; Colossians 1:12-18.
God the Father
God the Father is the supreme Ruler of the universe. He is the object and focus of our worship and the Being to whom His children pray. He sent Jesus Christ to the earth and instructed Him as to what to say and do. The Father's purpose is to be reconciled to His creation and to bring many sons and daugthers to glory. The Father accomplishes His will by means of the Holy Spirit by which He calls, regenerates, and through the process of conversion, transforms His new children into His image. He is directly involved in the life of each individual He calls, and imparts to them His holy characteristics as they yield to Him.
Scripture References:
Psalm 110:1; Daniel 7:9-14; Matthew 11:27; John 1:1-2; John 5:17, 20, 22-23, 36-37, 43; John 6:44; John 8:27-29, 38; John 10:18, 29; John 12:50; John 14:8-9, 28; John 16:27; John 17:5, 20-21; I Corinthians 15:24-28; Ephesians 3:14-15; Ephesians 4:4-6; Hebrews 1:1-2; Hebrews 2:3-9; Revelation 21:22-23; Revelation 22:1,3.
God the Son
Jesus of Nazareth is the God of the Old Testament, the Christ, God incarnate, the prophesied Messiah, the Savior of mankind. He exists eternally with the Father, and all things were created through Him and for Him. Before His human birth, He revealed Himself to the patriarchs as "the Eternal" (YHWH) and by a variety of other names. He divested Himself of the majesty of His office to become human by means of birth to the virgin Mary. Though tempted in all points like other men, He lived sinlessly throughout His life, giving Himself to be crucified as the perfect atonement for mankind's transgressions of God's laws. After three days and three nights in the grave, He was resurrected as a divine spirit Being and ascended to the Father's right hand in heaven, becoming our High Priest, Advocate and Mediator before the Father. As such, He is technically the Dispenser of the Holy Spirit. He is now Head of the Church, and shall return soon as King of kings and Lord of lords to establish the Kingdom of God on earth, sharing His rule with His resurrected brothers and sisters.
Scripture References:
John 1:1-3, 10, 14, 29-36; John 8:53-58; Colossians 1:13-20; John 3:16; Romans 5:8-9; Acts 2:33-35; John 15:26; John 16:7; Ephesians 4:7-8; I John 2:1-2; Hebrews 1:1-4; Hebrews 2:9-14; Hebrews 4:14-16; Hebrews 9:11-15; Ephesians 1:19-23; Philippians 2:5-7; Matthew 12:40; I Thessalonians 4:16; Revelation 5:9-10; Revelation 11:15; Revelation 19:11-16;
God The Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is the power of God and He is part of the Godhead (or part of a Trinity). It is the mind and essence of the divine nature and the spiritual extension of God through which He carries out His will. Bestowed upon or poured out upon individuals, it causes regeneration of God’s children. God's Spirit empowers the mind to comprehend spiritual matters, producing conversion. It leads us into all truth; convicts us of sin and righteousness; and imparts faith, the love of God, power to overcome sin and other gifts essential to do His will. It is the earnest or guarantee of eternal life.
Scripture References:
Genesis 1:2; Psalm 104:30; Isaiah 11:2; 32:15; 40:13; Ezekiel 39:29; Joel 2:28-29; John 7:37-39; Luke 24:49; Acts 1:8; 8:15-17; Romans 8:9-14; John 14:16-17, 26; I Corinthians 2:9-16; 12:4-11; II Timothy 1:6-7; II Peter 1:2-4; Ephesians 1:13-14.
The Bible
The written Word of God, the Holy Bible, constitutes the revelation of God to man, and is profitable for man's complete spiritual knowledge, understanding and growth to salvation. Holy men of God, inspired by the Holy Spirit through various means, recorded the truth revealed to them. Transmitted to us fundamentally free of error, God's Word is true and pure. The whole canon of Scripture, completed with the book of Revelation, includes the sixty-six books of the combined Old and New Testaments. Its basic purpose is to reveal God, His purpose and the process of salvation to man. The Bible, however, is not philosophy to be freely interpreted, but by gathering all pertinent scriptures, using sound reason and the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, one can understand God's intent and meaning.
Historians says there is no histories that linked to the man call Jesus. History of Jesus only found in the Bible? So who was Jesus, the man? Perhaps ALL histories related to Jesus, the man, was completed destroyed by the Romans. And apparently the hisory of the Anglo Saxon only begin from 1066. Something hideous about the Anglo Saxon histories before 1066 and historians believe Jesus has linked to royal family of England or the Roman Kings.
Scripture References:
II Timothy 3:15-17; II Peter 1:21; Hebrews 1:1-2; John 17:17; Proverbs 30:5; Matthew 5:18; John 10:35; Isaiah 8:16; Luke 24:44-45; Revelation 22:18-19; II Peter 1:20; Isaiah 28:9-11; I Thessalonians 5:21; Psalm 119:33-40, 97-99, 172.
Mankind
Humans, created male and female in God's image and mortal, are physical beings whose life is in the blood. However, God imparted a spirit essence to humans, empowering man with intellect and setting him far above the animals. This human spirit enables God to join His Spirit with man's so he might become a child of God. When a man dies, his conscious thoughts cease, his spirit returns to God who gave it and his body returns to dust. God's purpose for man is that he enter the Family of God by means of a spiritual birth upon baptism and receipt of the Holy Spirit, and later be changed to spirit in a resurrection from the dead to immortality and glory.
Scripture References:
Genesis 1:26-27; 2:7, 17; 3:19; Psalm 146:3-4; Ecclesiastes 3:19; Ezekiel 18:4, 20; Job 32:8; Zechariah 12:1; I Corinthians 2:11; Hebrews 12:28; I Timothy 6:15-16; Romans 8:29; I Corinthians 15:44, 50-54.
Sin
Sin is the transgression of God's law. It has a broad application in that sin can be defined as all unrighteousness, missing the mark or falling short of the character of God. Whatever is not of faith is sin, and when a person knows to do good but does not do it, it is sin. The penalty for sin is death in the Lake of Fire. Unpardonable sin is the willful, knowledgeable and continued transgression of the commandments of God. It also includes the willful rejection of God's salvation and blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, which is despising the works God does by the power of His Spirit and attributing them to Satan. These sins are unpardonable because the person will not repent. All sins can be forgiven by God's mercy through the blood of Jesus Christ.
Where in the Bible says there is a lake of fire? where all sinners go to die.
Where did you get this cut and paste article from?
Scripture References:
I John 3:4; 5:17; Ephesians 2:1; Romans 14:23; James 4:17; Romans 6:23; Revelation 20:14; Galatians 5:19-21; Matthew 12:31; Hebrews 10:26-29; I John 1:7, 9; Romans 8:1-3.
Satan and Demons
Originally created as Lucifer and given great powers and beauty, Satan became transformed into the Adversary through pride, leading him into rebellion against the government of God. From the angels first estate here on earth, he led one-third of his fellows to attack God in heaven, who cast them down to earth in defeat where they remain restrained to this day. As the god of this world and man's mortal enemy, Satan now uses his power and beauty to deceive all of mankind. He and his demons, though they have already been defeated and their fate is sealed, are doing all they can to frustrate God's purpose for man.
Who gave Satan that power and beauty? God? Fairly tale story when it comes to Satan and demons yeah!
Scripture References:
Ezekiel 28:14-17; Isaiah 14:12-15; Jude 6; II Peter 2:4; II Corinthians 4:4; Revelation 12:4, 9; Luke 22:31; Ephesians 6:12; Jude 13; Revelation 20:10.
Salvation
Salvation, a freely given gift from God the Father, is the means by which a person is saved from the penalty of sin and given eternal life.
A man caught red handed stealing money from the cash machine can only be punished but not saved. And etenral ife is a few weeks in prison perhaps. It is the law and God placed law in the hands of man to manage it. So how to save a crimminal?
The process of salvation begins with God's calling, opening the mind to spiritual truth. This leads to reconciliation with God through faith in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, then to repentance toward God, baptism, receipt of the Holy Spirit, sanctification unto holiness through a life of overcoming, and rebirth and glorification as God. Though salvation cannot be earned through works of the law, the keeping of the Ten Commandments is nonetheless required as a condition to receive salvation. Everyone, at the time God chooses, will have an opportunity for salvation.
Scripture References:
Ephesians 2:4-10; John 6:44-45; Acts 20:21; Romans 5:8-11; 6:1-6, 15-18; Ephesians 1:13-14; II Thessalonians 2:13-14; I Peter 1:2; II Corinthians 7:1; Hebrews 12:14; Ephesians 1:13-14; II Thessalonians 2:13-14; I Peter 1:2; II Corinthians 7:1; Hebrews 12:14; Romans 8:29-30; II Corinthians 3:18; I John 3:1-2; I Corinthians 15:35, 42-44; Romans 2:12-13; James 1:25; Matthew 19:17; John 14:15; I Corinthians 15:21-23, 50-54; Revelation 20:4-15.
Repentance
Repentance is deep contrition of mind and spirit over one's spiritual condition, combined with resolve to change what one is and does. The goodness of God leads one to repentance, which begins when God enables one to see himself in comparison to Him. Only then can one acknowledge that he is a sinner in need of forgiveness.
Why God goe destroy Sodom and Gomorro when repentence can do?
In the Bible God keep destoying cities and killed millions of his 'own images'. He even completely destory his own creation in Genesis 6.
Repentance is the first step in reconciliation with God. It moves one to confess his sin, and with deep desire, conform his life to God's will as revealed in the Holy Bible. Repentance occurs, not just once, but continuously as we grow in the knowledge of God.
Scripture References:
Jeremiah 17:9; Matthew 9:13; II Corinthians 7:9-11; Romans 2:4; II Timothy 2:25; Acts 20:21; Luke 13:3, 5; Psalm 51; Mark 1:15; Luke 24:47; Acts 2:37-38; 3:19; 11:18.
Going on to Perfection
God intends conversion to be a growth process with the aim or goal to become like Christ. The process includes yielding to God to be led by His Spirit to get rid of materialism, self-centeredness, bad habits of character and bad attitudes. In their place, God desires growth in the fruits of the spirit, especially in love toward God and love of the brethren. This doctrine comprises the bulk of the behavioral instruction, correction, exhortation and admonition of the Bible.
Scripture References:
Hebrews 6:1; 5:10-12; Matthew 5:48; Hebrews 2:10; 5:9; 13:21; James 1:4; II Corinthians 13:9; I Peter 2:2; II Peter 3:18; Ephesians 4:7-15.
Resurrections
Death is a reality all must eventually face, but the hope of all Christians and the promise of the Father is the resurrection from the dead. The Bible plainly identifies two types of resurrections: special acts of mercy by God in which He raised people back to physical life, and the spiritual resurrections to eternal life. The best known resurrection is Jesus Christ's triumph over death. When He returns, He will resurrect the saints to eternal life. After the thousand years of His reign, He will resurrect to physical life all who have not had an opportunity for salvation. Finally, the incorrigibly wicked will be physically resurrected to be consumed in the Lake of Fire.
Scripture References:
Job 14:14-15; 19:25-26; Daniel 12:2-3; Matthew 27:52-53; Mark 5:35-42; Acts 9:40-41; 20:7-12; John 5:28-29; 11:20-24; I Corinthians 15:3-8, 20-23, 51-52; I Thessalonians 4:13-17; Revelation 20:4-6; Ezekiel 37:1-14; Revelation 20:11-15; II Peter 3:10-12.
Faith
Faith is the active belief in the existence of God and the dynamic trust in His Word. God commands us to live by faith. As the foundation of the process, it is essential for salvation. Without faith it is impossible to please God because, as man's foundational response to God, it leads to obedience and the completion of God's purpose. Because of faith in Christ's blood, we are forgiven, and righteousness is imputed to us. Both a gift of God and a fruit of His Spirit, faith is perfected through the good works God has ordained.
Scripture References:
Romans 1:17; Hebrews 10:37-39; I Peter 1:5, 9; Hebrews 11:1-6; Ephesians 2:4-10; Romans 4:5, 9-13, 20-22; Romans 5:8-11; I Corinthians 12:4, 9; Romans 12:3; Galatians 5:22; James 2:14-26; II Corinthians 5:7.
Water Baptism
Water baptism is by immersion after genuine repentance and acceptance of Jesus Christ as personal Savior. It symbolizes the death and burial of a sinner into the death and burial of Jesus Christ. Rising out of the watery grave symbolizes His resurrection. Also symbolizing purification, baptism prepares one for the receipt of the Holy Spirit. When one rises from his watery grave, he is to be a new person, led by God's Spirit and conducting his life according to God's way.
Scripture References:
Matthew 3:13-16; 28:19-20; Acts 2:38; 8:12-17; Romans 6:1-7; Colossians 2:12.
The Kingdom of God
The Kingdom of God is the creating and ruling Family of God soon to administer the government of God on earth. Though the Kingdom of God does not now rule the earth, those who have God's Spirit are under its rule in their lives. When Jesus Christ returns, He will reestablish its rule on earth, and the saints, resurrected as spirit kings and priests, will reign with Him for a thousand years. Following the second death and the Lake of Fire, the Kingdom will be completely fulfilled when God the Father descends from heaven to rule for all eternity from New Jerusalem.
Scripture References:
Daniel 2:44; Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:1-10; Micah 4:1-4; Mark 4:11; John 3:3-7; I Corinthians 15:50-54; Colossians 1:13; Hebrews 11:13-16; Matthew 25:31; 20:21; Revelation 2:26; 5:10; 19:16; 20:4-6, 12-15; 21:1-2.
Laws and Commandments of God
The laws of God are written expressions of the character, mind and will of God for His people. They appear in both Old and New Testaments, teaching how to love and worship God, love fellow man and prepare for eternal life in the Family of God. They cover both physical actions and spiritual motivations. The Ten Commandments were given directly by God Himself, codified by Moses and magnified and ratified by Jesus Christ. A perfect spiritual law, they are always in force whether or not a person is aware of them. Obedience to them brings blessings; disobedience brings curses. To transgress them is to sin and incur the death penalty. Keeping God's law, thus showing one's submission to the government of God, is a condition for eternal life.
Scripture References:
Psalm 19:7-11; Romans 7:7-12, 14; Exodus 20:1-17; Psalm 119:172; John 15:14; I John 2:2-3; 5:2-3; Matthew 22:36-40; Isaiah 42:21; Matthew 5:17-32; 19:17; Deuteronomy 30:15-20; 28:1-15; I John 3:4; Revelation 22:14.
Eternal Judgment
One's judgment occurs throughout the time of his opportunity for salvation. Beginning with God opening the individual's mind to understand His way of life, the judgment extends to the end of his life, and its consequences are eternal. God looks upon the heart, mercifully judging a person based on his attitude, his knowledge of God and His way, his application of what he understands, and his personal relationship with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. By this judgment, God determines who will be in His Family.
When NT Bible is fake, where to find faith and eternal judgement? Paul is fake and in Galation he has had problems arguing with his founding churches to beleive his 'version fo Jesus is truth' and those who believe in the 12 Apostles 'version of Jesus' will be condemed (accrused). So whose version of Jesus to believe, Paul or the 12 Apostles?
One version was from the 12 Apostles were with Jesus all the time. The other version was from Paul, who killed the Jesus people, went 3 years travleing round the Minor Asia to find out the story of Jesus. So which story of Jesus is more accurate, Paul or the 12 Apostles?
Why the Jews want to kill Paul in Act 23: 11 - 31?
ACT23 - 11 And the night following the Lord stood by him, and said, Be of good cheer, Paul: for as thou hast testified of me in Jerusalem, so must thou bear witness also at Rome.
12 And when it was day, certain of the Jews banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul.
13 And they were more than forty which had made this conspiracy.
14 And they came to the chief priests and elders, and said, We have bound ourselves under a great curse, that we will eat nothing until we have slain Paul.
15 Now therefore ye with the council signify to the chief captain that he bring him down unto you to morrow, as though ye would enquire something more perfectly concerning him: and we, or ever he come near, are ready to kill him.
16 And when Paul's sister's son heard of their lying in wait, he went and entered into the castle, and told Paul.
17 Then Paul called one of the centurions unto him, and said, Bring this young man unto the chief captain: for he hath a certain thing to tell him.
18 So he took him, and brought him to the chief captain, and said, Paul the prisoner called me unto him, and prayed me to bring this young man unto thee, who hath something to say unto thee.
19 Then the chief captain took him by the hand, and went with him aside privately, and asked him, What is that thou hast to tell me?
20 And he said, The Jews have agreed to desire thee that thou wouldest bring down Paul to morrow into the council, as though they would enquire somewhat of him more perfectly.
21 But do not thou yield unto them: for there lie in wait for him of them more than forty men, which have bound themselves with an oath, that they will neither eat nor drink till they have killed him: and now are they ready, looking for a promise from thee.
22 So the chief captain then let the young man depart, and charged him, See thou tell no man that thou hast shewed these things to me.
23 And he called unto him two centurions, saying, Make ready two hundred soldiers to go to Caesarea, and horsemen threescore and ten, and spearmen two hundred, at the third hour of the night;
24 And provide them beasts, that they may set Paul on, and bring him safe unto Felix the governor.
25 And he wrote a letter after this manner:
26 Claudius Lysias unto the most excellent governor Felix sendeth greeting.
27 This man was taken of the Jews, and should have been killed of them: then came I with an army, and rescued him, having understood that he was a Roman.
28 And when I would have known the cause wherefore they accused him, I brought him forth into their council:
29 Whom I perceived to be accused of questions of their law, but to have nothing laid to his charge worthy of death or of bonds.
30 And when it was told me how that the Jews laid wait for the man, I sent straightway to thee, and gave commandment to his accusers also to say before thee what they had against him. Farewell.
31 Then the soldiers, as it was commanded them, took Paul, and brought him by night to Antipatris.
Answer: Found in Galation, Paul's letter to the Galation probably over the dispute which version of Jesus is correct?
Scripture References:
Hebrews 6:2; I Samuel 16:7; Hebrews 9:27; Hebrews 10:26-27; I Peter 4:17; Romans 2:16; Acts 10:42; John 5:26-30; Romans 14:10-12; II Corinthians 5:10; Matthew 11:20-24; Matthew 12:41-42; Ezekiel 37:12-14; Revelation 20:5-6, 11-14.
Grace
God's grace is the dynamic of salvation. Grace expresses God's freely given gifts. It is present, not just in the forgiveness of sin, but through the entire process of salvation. Grace gives to the called whatever is necessary to enable God's purpose for them to succeed. Men have always been saved by grace through faith.
Scripture References:
Genesis 6:8; Exodus 33:12-17; Hebrews 4:16; 13:9; Romans 3:24; 4:4, 16; 5:2, 15; 11:5-6; 12:3, 6; I Peter 4:10; II Peter 1:2; 3:18; I Corinthians 12:4-11;
Today’s Scripture Reading [August 29, 2010]And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. [Matthew 24:14. KJV]
“And this gospel of the kingdom ….. (Matthew 23:14a)”. What is this ‘gospel’ that Jesus was referring to? The answer to this question can be found in the Book of New Testament and in particular the first four books, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. It is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is about Jesus who was born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, tortured and died on the cross, resurrected three days day later and after forty days, He was ascended to heaven to be with God the Father. These are the basic doctrinal truth of the gospel and without it, we will not be able to see God. All born-Christians are united in these beliefs as laid down in His Word, the Bible.
Nonetheless, we do sometimes hear that when a Christian professes his faith, he uses statements like: I am a Methodist; I am an Anglican; or I am a Lutheran. These statements on denominations (or divisions) of church affiliation have caused confusions of varying degrees among Christians; many non-believers are even more ‘confused’ by what this ‘denomination’ is all about. In 1 Corinthians 3: 4-9, Apostle Paul has cautioned us that ‘dividing the body of Christ’ through the use of denomination or division is carnal. It is the work of man and not of God. Hence, regardless of your ‘denomination’, whether you are a Methodist, an Anglican, a Lutheran or a Presbyterian, we must all remember that we are members of the Body of Christ, His Church, and there is only one Body of Christ. Admittely, churches need to give a name for vavrious reasons, one being to satisfy legislation as organizations are required to be registered as a legal requirement in many countries. We must therefore attempt to just let the use of the name of the church be used to satisfy the legal requirements of the country in which the church is based and not to use to divide the Body of Christ.
You are downplaying the need of denomination in Christian religion. THE RC believed in Saints but many churches don't. As such there is split between RC and many churches and Protestant is the first church the lead the split ( over re-marrying).
You need to have a nick in the forum and you call youself Psalm23. So no diif if you wish to deliver God messages here you need to state who you link to or you wish to form a new denomination.
It is my believe that the following Statements of Beliefs that are based on the Holy Bible should be used to unite us. In addition, these Statements of Beliefs can provide us with sound doctrines to our Christian beliefs and our understanding of who God is and why He sent His Son, Jesus, to die for our sin (John 3:16a). We must be mindful that as believers of the Gospel of Jesus Christ it is all about our relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ and of His Truth. It is not about denomination. Sadly, the singleness and resplendent beauty of God’s church has been obscured by the various denominational organizations that called themselves ‘churches.
That is the way of life, and for anyone like you who wishes to deliver God messages must state his/her doctine and what they interepret in the Bible.
The Gospel
The gospel is the message preached by Christ and His church. Its focus is God's purpose and plan to reproduce Himself. Jesus Christ, John the Baptist and the apostles generally call it the "gospel of the Kingdom of God" but biblical writers use over a dozen other titles to describe it. Ultimately, it is the complete message of the entire Old and New Testaments, containing the message of what God the Father, His Son, and the Holy Spirit have done, are doing and will do to accomplish their purpose. It contains detailed information on the King, subjects, laws and territory of the Kingdom of God and how mankind can become part of it.
Scripture References:
Matthew 3:2; Matthew 24:14; Mark 1:14; Acts 28:31; Romans 1:1,16; Romans 2:16; Romans 15:16; Ephesians 1:13; Ephesians 6:15; Revelation 14:6.
The Eternal God Family
God is the eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, supreme, all-powerful, creating, ruling and life-giving spirit Family (Elohim). It is one and perfect in character, love, and purpose. Through its plan for mankind, its overall purpose is to expand the Eternal God Family and thereby share its magnificent glory for all eternity. Presently, the God Family consists of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
Hello! where you get this refence from God family? 1st time Uncle Tanxxx heard this. God is God and he is either a father nor a Son and either is he a tang kee (spirit).
Scripture References:
Genesis 1:1,26; Deuteronomy 6:4; Nehemiah 9:6-8; Psalms 2:2, 7, 12; Psalms 8:1-9; Psalms 19:1; Psalms 110:1; Psalms 139:1-10; Isaiah 40:12-17, 25-26; Isaiah 44:6; Daniel 7:9-10; John 1:1, 14; John 4:24; John 14:8-9; Romans 1:20; Romans 8:29; Ephesians 1:3-5, 9-10; Ephesians 3:14-15; Colossians 1:12-18.
God the Father
God the Father is the supreme Ruler of the universe. He is the object and focus of our worship and the Being to whom His children pray. He sent Jesus Christ to the earth and instructed Him as to what to say and do. The Father's purpose is to be reconciled to His creation and to bring many sons and daugthers to glory. The Father accomplishes His will by means of the Holy Spirit by which He calls, regenerates, and through the process of conversion, transforms His new children into His image. He is directly involved in the life of each individual He calls, and imparts to them His holy characteristics as they yield to Him.
Scripture References:
Psalm 110:1; Daniel 7:9-14; Matthew 11:27; John 1:1-2; John 5:17, 20, 22-23, 36-37, 43; John 6:44; John 8:27-29, 38; John 10:18, 29; John 12:50; John 14:8-9, 28; John 16:27; John 17:5, 20-21; I Corinthians 15:24-28; Ephesians 3:14-15; Ephesians 4:4-6; Hebrews 1:1-2; Hebrews 2:3-9; Revelation 21:22-23; Revelation 22:1,3.
God the Son
Jesus of Nazareth is the God of the Old Testament, the Christ, God incarnate, the prophesied Messiah, the Savior of mankind. He exists eternally with the Father, and all things were created through Him and for Him. Before His human birth, He revealed Himself to the patriarchs as "the Eternal" (YHWH) and by a variety of other names. He divested Himself of the majesty of His office to become human by means of birth to the virgin Mary. Though tempted in all points like other men, He lived sinlessly throughout His life, giving Himself to be crucified as the perfect atonement for mankind's transgressions of God's laws. After three days and three nights in the grave, He was resurrected as a divine spirit Being and ascended to the Father's right hand in heaven, becoming our High Priest, Advocate and Mediator before the Father. As such, He is technically the Dispenser of the Holy Spirit. He is now Head of the Church, and shall return soon as King of kings and Lord of lords to establish the Kingdom of God on earth, sharing His rule with His resurrected brothers and sisters.
Scripture References:
John 1:1-3, 10, 14, 29-36; John 8:53-58; Colossians 1:13-20; John 3:16; Romans 5:8-9; Acts 2:33-35; John 15:26; John 16:7; Ephesians 4:7-8; I John 2:1-2; Hebrews 1:1-4; Hebrews 2:9-14; Hebrews 4:14-16; Hebrews 9:11-15; Ephesians 1:19-23; Philippians 2:5-7; Matthew 12:40; I Thessalonians 4:16; Revelation 5:9-10; Revelation 11:15; Revelation 19:11-16;
God The Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is the power of God and He is part of the Godhead (or part of a Trinity). It is the mind and essence of the divine nature and the spiritual extension of God through which He carries out His will. Bestowed upon or poured out upon individuals, it causes regeneration of God’s children. God's Spirit empowers the mind to comprehend spiritual matters, producing conversion. It leads us into all truth; convicts us of sin and righteousness; and imparts faith, the love of God, power to overcome sin and other gifts essential to do His will. It is the earnest or guarantee of eternal life.
Scripture References:
Genesis 1:2; Psalm 104:30; Isaiah 11:2; 32:15; 40:13; Ezekiel 39:29; Joel 2:28-29; John 7:37-39; Luke 24:49; Acts 1:8; 8:15-17; Romans 8:9-14; John 14:16-17, 26; I Corinthians 2:9-16; 12:4-11; II Timothy 1:6-7; II Peter 1:2-4; Ephesians 1:13-14.
The Bible
The written Word of God, the Holy Bible, constitutes the revelation of God to man, and is profitable for man's complete spiritual knowledge, understanding and growth to salvation. Holy men of God, inspired by the Holy Spirit through various means, recorded the truth revealed to them. Transmitted to us fundamentally free of error, God's Word is true and pure. The whole canon of Scripture, completed with the book of Revelation, includes the sixty-six books of the combined Old and New Testaments. Its basic purpose is to reveal God, His purpose and the process of salvation to man. The Bible, however, is not philosophy to be freely interpreted, but by gathering all pertinent scriptures, using sound reason and the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, one can understand God's intent and meaning.
Historians says there is no histories that linked to the man call Jesus. History of Jesus only found in the Bible? So who was Jesus, the man? Perhaps ALL histories related to Jesus, the man, was completed destroyed by the Romans. And apparently the hisory of the Anglo Saxon only begin from 1066. Something hideous about the Anglo Saxon histories before 1066 and historians believe Jesus has linked to royal family of England or the Roman Kings.
Scripture References:
II Timothy 3:15-17; II Peter 1:21; Hebrews 1:1-2; John 17:17; Proverbs 30:5; Matthew 5:18; John 10:35; Isaiah 8:16; Luke 24:44-45; Revelation 22:18-19; II Peter 1:20; Isaiah 28:9-11; I Thessalonians 5:21; Psalm 119:33-40, 97-99, 172.
Mankind
Humans, created male and female in God's image and mortal, are physical beings whose life is in the blood. However, God imparted a spirit essence to humans, empowering man with intellect and setting him far above the animals. This human spirit enables God to join His Spirit with man's so he might become a child of God. When a man dies, his conscious thoughts cease, his spirit returns to God who gave it and his body returns to dust. God's purpose for man is that he enter the Family of God by means of a spiritual birth upon baptism and receipt of the Holy Spirit, and later be changed to spirit in a resurrection from the dead to immortality and glory.
Scripture References:
Genesis 1:26-27; 2:7, 17; 3:19; Psalm 146:3-4; Ecclesiastes 3:19; Ezekiel 18:4, 20; Job 32:8; Zechariah 12:1; I Corinthians 2:11; Hebrews 12:28; I Timothy 6:15-16; Romans 8:29; I Corinthians 15:44, 50-54.
Sin
Sin is the transgression of God's law. It has a broad application in that sin can be defined as all unrighteousness, missing the mark or falling short of the character of God. Whatever is not of faith is sin, and when a person knows to do good but does not do it, it is sin. The penalty for sin is death in the Lake of Fire. Unpardonable sin is the willful, knowledgeable and continued transgression of the commandments of God. It also includes the willful rejection of God's salvation and blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, which is despising the works God does by the power of His Spirit and attributing them to Satan. These sins are unpardonable because the person will not repent. All sins can be forgiven by God's mercy through the blood of Jesus Christ.
Where in the Bible says there is a lake of fire? where all sinners go to die.
Where did you get this cut and paste article from?
Scripture References:
I John 3:4; 5:17; Ephesians 2:1; Romans 14:23; James 4:17; Romans 6:23; Revelation 20:14; Galatians 5:19-21; Matthew 12:31; Hebrews 10:26-29; I John 1:7, 9; Romans 8:1-3.
Satan and Demons
Originally created as Lucifer and given great powers and beauty, Satan became transformed into the Adversary through pride, leading him into rebellion against the government of God. From the angels first estate here on earth, he led one-third of his fellows to attack God in heaven, who cast them down to earth in defeat where they remain restrained to this day. As the god of this world and man's mortal enemy, Satan now uses his power and beauty to deceive all of mankind. He and his demons, though they have already been defeated and their fate is sealed, are doing all they can to frustrate God's purpose for man.
Who gave Satan that power and beauty? God? Fairly tale story when it comes to Satan and demons yeah!
Scripture References:
Ezekiel 28:14-17; Isaiah 14:12-15; Jude 6; II Peter 2:4; II Corinthians 4:4; Revelation 12:4, 9; Luke 22:31; Ephesians 6:12; Jude 13; Revelation 20:10.
Salvation
Salvation, a freely given gift from God the Father, is the means by which a person is saved from the penalty of sin and given eternal life.
A man caught red handed stealing money from the cash machine can only be punished but not saved. And etenral ife is a few weeks in prison perhaps. It is the law and God placed law in the hands of man to manage it. So how to save a crimminal?
The process of salvation begins with God's calling, opening the mind to spiritual truth. This leads to reconciliation with God through faith in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, then to repentance toward God, baptism, receipt of the Holy Spirit, sanctification unto holiness through a life of overcoming, and rebirth and glorification as God. Though salvation cannot be earned through works of the law, the keeping of the Ten Commandments is nonetheless required as a condition to receive salvation. Everyone, at the time God chooses, will have an opportunity for salvation.
Scripture References:
Ephesians 2:4-10; John 6:44-45; Acts 20:21; Romans 5:8-11; 6:1-6, 15-18; Ephesians 1:13-14; II Thessalonians 2:13-14; I Peter 1:2; II Corinthians 7:1; Hebrews 12:14; Ephesians 1:13-14; II Thessalonians 2:13-14; I Peter 1:2; II Corinthians 7:1; Hebrews 12:14; Romans 8:29-30; II Corinthians 3:18; I John 3:1-2; I Corinthians 15:35, 42-44; Romans 2:12-13; James 1:25; Matthew 19:17; John 14:15; I Corinthians 15:21-23, 50-54; Revelation 20:4-15.
Repentance
Repentance is deep contrition of mind and spirit over one's spiritual condition, combined with resolve to change what one is and does. The goodness of God leads one to repentance, which begins when God enables one to see himself in comparison to Him. Only then can one acknowledge that he is a sinner in need of forgiveness.
Why God goe destroy Sodom and Gomorro when repentence can do?
In the Bible God keep destoying cities and killed millions of his 'own images'. He even completely destory his own creation in Genesis 6.
Repentance is the first step in reconciliation with God. It moves one to confess his sin, and with deep desire, conform his life to God's will as revealed in the Holy Bible. Repentance occurs, not just once, but continuously as we grow in the knowledge of God.
Scripture References:
Jeremiah 17:9; Matthew 9:13; II Corinthians 7:9-11; Romans 2:4; II Timothy 2:25; Acts 20:21; Luke 13:3, 5; Psalm 51; Mark 1:15; Luke 24:47; Acts 2:37-38; 3:19; 11:18.
Going on to Perfection
God intends conversion to be a growth process with the aim or goal to become like Christ. The process includes yielding to God to be led by His Spirit to get rid of materialism, self-centeredness, bad habits of character and bad attitudes. In their place, God desires growth in the fruits of the spirit, especially in love toward God and love of the brethren. This doctrine comprises the bulk of the behavioral instruction, correction, exhortation and admonition of the Bible.
Scripture References:
Hebrews 6:1; 5:10-12; Matthew 5:48; Hebrews 2:10; 5:9; 13:21; James 1:4; II Corinthians 13:9; I Peter 2:2; II Peter 3:18; Ephesians 4:7-15.
Resurrections
Death is a reality all must eventually face, but the hope of all Christians and the promise of the Father is the resurrection from the dead. The Bible plainly identifies two types of resurrections: special acts of mercy by God in which He raised people back to physical life, and the spiritual resurrections to eternal life. The best known resurrection is Jesus Christ's triumph over death. When He returns, He will resurrect the saints to eternal life. After the thousand years of His reign, He will resurrect to physical life all who have not had an opportunity for salvation. Finally, the incorrigibly wicked will be physically resurrected to be consumed in the Lake of Fire.
Scripture References:
Job 14:14-15; 19:25-26; Daniel 12:2-3; Matthew 27:52-53; Mark 5:35-42; Acts 9:40-41; 20:7-12; John 5:28-29; 11:20-24; I Corinthians 15:3-8, 20-23, 51-52; I Thessalonians 4:13-17; Revelation 20:4-6; Ezekiel 37:1-14; Revelation 20:11-15; II Peter 3:10-12.
Faith
Faith is the active belief in the existence of God and the dynamic trust in His Word. God commands us to live by faith. As the foundation of the process, it is essential for salvation. Without faith it is impossible to please God because, as man's foundational response to God, it leads to obedience and the completion of God's purpose. Because of faith in Christ's blood, we are forgiven, and righteousness is imputed to us. Both a gift of God and a fruit of His Spirit, faith is perfected through the good works God has ordained.
Scripture References:
Romans 1:17; Hebrews 10:37-39; I Peter 1:5, 9; Hebrews 11:1-6; Ephesians 2:4-10; Romans 4:5, 9-13, 20-22; Romans 5:8-11; I Corinthians 12:4, 9; Romans 12:3; Galatians 5:22; James 2:14-26; II Corinthians 5:7.
Water Baptism
Water baptism is by immersion after genuine repentance and acceptance of Jesus Christ as personal Savior. It symbolizes the death and burial of a sinner into the death and burial of Jesus Christ. Rising out of the watery grave symbolizes His resurrection. Also symbolizing purification, baptism prepares one for the receipt of the Holy Spirit. When one rises from his watery grave, he is to be a new person, led by God's Spirit and conducting his life according to God's way.
Scripture References:
Matthew 3:13-16; 28:19-20; Acts 2:38; 8:12-17; Romans 6:1-7; Colossians 2:12.
The Kingdom of God
The Kingdom of God is the creating and ruling Family of God soon to administer the government of God on earth. Though the Kingdom of God does not now rule the earth, those who have God's Spirit are under its rule in their lives. When Jesus Christ returns, He will reestablish its rule on earth, and the saints, resurrected as spirit kings and priests, will reign with Him for a thousand years. Following the second death and the Lake of Fire, the Kingdom will be completely fulfilled when God the Father descends from heaven to rule for all eternity from New Jerusalem.
Scripture References:
Daniel 2:44; Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:1-10; Micah 4:1-4; Mark 4:11; John 3:3-7; I Corinthians 15:50-54; Colossians 1:13; Hebrews 11:13-16; Matthew 25:31; 20:21; Revelation 2:26; 5:10; 19:16; 20:4-6, 12-15; 21:1-2.
Laws and Commandments of God
The laws of God are written expressions of the character, mind and will of God for His people. They appear in both Old and New Testaments, teaching how to love and worship God, love fellow man and prepare for eternal life in the Family of God. They cover both physical actions and spiritual motivations. The Ten Commandments were given directly by God Himself, codified by Moses and magnified and ratified by Jesus Christ. A perfect spiritual law, they are always in force whether or not a person is aware of them. Obedience to them brings blessings; disobedience brings curses. To transgress them is to sin and incur the death penalty. Keeping God's law, thus showing one's submission to the government of God, is a condition for eternal life.
Scripture References:
Psalm 19:7-11; Romans 7:7-12, 14; Exodus 20:1-17; Psalm 119:172; John 15:14; I John 2:2-3; 5:2-3; Matthew 22:36-40; Isaiah 42:21; Matthew 5:17-32; 19:17; Deuteronomy 30:15-20; 28:1-15; I John 3:4; Revelation 22:14.
Eternal Judgment
One's judgment occurs throughout the time of his opportunity for salvation. Beginning with God opening the individual's mind to understand His way of life, the judgment extends to the end of his life, and its consequences are eternal. God looks upon the heart, mercifully judging a person based on his attitude, his knowledge of God and His way, his application of what he understands, and his personal relationship with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. By this judgment, God determines who will be in His Family.
When NT Bible is fake, where to find faith and eternal judgement? Paul is fake and in Galation he has had problems arguing with his founding churches to beleive his 'version fo Jesus is truth' and those who believe in the 12 Apostles 'version of Jesus' will be condemed (accrused). So whose version of Jesus to believe, Paul or the 12 Apostles?
One version was from the 12 Apostles were with Jesus all the time. The other version was from Paul, who killed the Jesus people, went 3 years travleing round the Minor Asia to find out the story of Jesus. So which story of Jesus is more accurate, Paul or the 12 Apostles?
Why the Jews want to kill Paul in Act 23: 11 - 31?
ACT23 - 11 And the night following the Lord stood by him, and said, Be of good cheer, Paul: for as thou hast testified of me in Jerusalem, so must thou bear witness also at Rome.
12 And when it was day, certain of the Jews banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul.
13 And they were more than forty which had made this conspiracy.
14 And they came to the chief priests and elders, and said, We have bound ourselves under a great curse, that we will eat nothing until we have slain Paul.
15 Now therefore ye with the council signify to the chief captain that he bring him down unto you to morrow, as though ye would enquire something more perfectly concerning him: and we, or ever he come near, are ready to kill him.
16 And when Paul's sister's son heard of their lying in wait, he went and entered into the castle, and told Paul.
17 Then Paul called one of the centurions unto him, and said, Bring this young man unto the chief captain: for he hath a certain thing to tell him.
18 So he took him, and brought him to the chief captain, and said, Paul the prisoner called me unto him, and prayed me to bring this young man unto thee, who hath something to say unto thee.
19 Then the chief captain took him by the hand, and went with him aside privately, and asked him, What is that thou hast to tell me?
20 And he said, The Jews have agreed to desire thee that thou wouldest bring down Paul to morrow into the council, as though they would enquire somewhat of him more perfectly.
21 But do not thou yield unto them: for there lie in wait for him of them more than forty men, which have bound themselves with an oath, that they will neither eat nor drink till they have killed him: and now are they ready, looking for a promise from thee.
22 So the chief captain then let the young man depart, and charged him, See thou tell no man that thou hast shewed these things to me.
23 And he called unto him two centurions, saying, Make ready two hundred soldiers to go to Caesarea, and horsemen threescore and ten, and spearmen two hundred, at the third hour of the night;
24 And provide them beasts, that they may set Paul on, and bring him safe unto Felix the governor.
25 And he wrote a letter after this manner:
26 Claudius Lysias unto the most excellent governor Felix sendeth greeting.
27 This man was taken of the Jews, and should have been killed of them: then came I with an army, and rescued him, having understood that he was a Roman.
28 And when I would have known the cause wherefore they accused him, I brought him forth into their council:
29 Whom I perceived to be accused of questions of their law, but to have nothing laid to his charge worthy of death or of bonds.
30 And when it was told me how that the Jews laid wait for the man, I sent straightway to thee, and gave commandment to his accusers also to say before thee what they had against him. Farewell.
31 Then the soldiers, as it was commanded them, took Paul, and brought him by night to Antipatris.
Answer: Found in Galation, Paul's letter to the Galation probably over the dispute which version of Jesus is correct?
Scripture References:
Hebrews 6:2; I Samuel 16:7; Hebrews 9:27; Hebrews 10:26-27; I Peter 4:17; Romans 2:16; Acts 10:42; John 5:26-30; Romans 14:10-12; II Corinthians 5:10; Matthew 11:20-24; Matthew 12:41-42; Ezekiel 37:12-14; Revelation 20:5-6, 11-14.
Grace
God's grace is the dynamic of salvation. Grace expresses God's freely given gifts. It is present, not just in the forgiveness of sin, but through the entire process of salvation. Grace gives to the called whatever is necessary to enable God's purpose for them to succeed. Men have always been saved by grace through faith.
Scripture References:
Genesis 6:8; Exodus 33:12-17; Hebrews 4:16; 13:9; Romans 3:24; 4:4, 16; 5:2, 15; 11:5-6; 12:3, 6; I Peter 4:10; II Peter 1:2; 3:18; I Corinthians 12:4-11;
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[No claim of absolute originality is made for these Statements of Beliefs. I do, however, personally subscribe to these Beliefs because they are doctrinally and biblically sound based on the Inspired Word of God, the Bible.
i am not religious. what is xtian views on this which was fwd to me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW99U4JWNEc&p=1D7CC58E4F081090&playnext=1&index=10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW99U4JWNEc&p=1D7CC58E4F081090&playnext=1&index=10
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cocoboo,
..and the truth shall set you free!
excellent video
..and the truth shall set you free!
excellent video
Well done! Who was Jesus, the man? This is what scholars and researches want to find out? It is not about God the scholars and researches want to find out, all they want to do is to find out who is this man Jesus who has no historial links to any other histories except he canonly be found in the Bible.
The period from BC50 -AD100 was like WWII in 1942. Europe was occupied by the Romans (Roman stopped at the Harian Walls in Scotland) and Germany to occupy Europe in 1942. Jesus people, like any other ressistance figthers group in WWII, was resisting against the occupation of Romans in Europe.
In the time of crisis, heros emerges every now and then to stand up for his/her people to resist the occupation of the invaders (Roman). And Jesus, the Rabbi and his twin brother Thomas, were one of the heroes resistance fighter at that time.
So who was Jesus the man? And what is the story about? There was a Jewish evolt war against the Roman from AD 66-73.
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Bro TAn , yes everyone should research history and suss out facts from fiction.
Not just believe what is being drummed into us by other people.And also really read and examine the so called holy books.
Most of what you have given are historical but there are lots who cannot believe that their history was fraught with lots and lots of bloodletting.
More recently i found out about the Cathars who in the yrs 1000+ ,in trying to preach what they believed that Jesus was human and wasnt divine..were persecuted and burned alive even.I read about the inquisition and was completely flummoxed..they made Hitler and the Gestapo look like Mother theresa and a bunch of schoolboys in their manner oftorture of the non believers.
Not just believe what is being drummed into us by other people.And also really read and examine the so called holy books.
Most of what you have given are historical but there are lots who cannot believe that their history was fraught with lots and lots of bloodletting.
More recently i found out about the Cathars who in the yrs 1000+ ,in trying to preach what they believed that Jesus was human and wasnt divine..were persecuted and burned alive even.I read about the inquisition and was completely flummoxed..they made Hitler and the Gestapo look like Mother theresa and a bunch of schoolboys in their manner oftorture of the non believers.
DOES GOD EXIST?
A man went to a barbershop to have
his hair cut and his beard trimmed.
As the barber began to work, they began to have a good
conversation. They talked about so many things and various
subjects. When they eventually touched on the subject of God,
the barber said: "I don't believe that God exists."
"Why do you say that?" asked the customer.
"Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize
that God doesn't exist.
Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people?
Would there be abandoned children?
If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain.
I can't imagine a loving God who would allow all of these things."
The customer thought for a moment,
but didn't respond because he didn't want to start an argument.
The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop.
Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street
with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard.
He looked dirty and unkempt. The customer turned back
and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber:
"You know what? Barbers do not exist."
"How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber.
"I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!"
"No!" the customer exclaimed. "Barbers don't exist because
if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and
untrimmed beards, like that man outside."
"Ah, but barbers DO exist! That's what happens
when people do not come to me."
"Exactly!" affirmed the customer.
"That's the point! God, too, DOES exist!
That's what happens when people do not go to
Him and don't look to Him for help.
That's why there's so much pain and suffering in the world."
What would you expect to see the reaction by some of the readers to this simple story? It's obvious! Just like we see on the streets, they are people with untrimmed beared, unkempt hair, we can expect the use of 'unkempt' words to blaspheme God. Let's what these people of the street (or the lost and strayed sheep) have to say about this message. Does God exit? Yes - because these people have proved to us God's existence than God Himself indeed has! It is true that Christians who lived their Godly lives can be a powerful testimony to God's existence, it is equally true that those who don't believe in God and live 'godlessly' can show to the world the impact of a godless society - society flooded with unkempt words, unkempt speeches, unkempt businesses, unkempt occupations, unkempt vocations, unkempt entertainments, unkempt sports and most damaging, unkempt souls by rejecting the Blood of Jesus.
As children of God, we are blessed and we must be a blessing to others because we are all fighting some kind of battle each day. May we pray that God will strengthen us as we fought our daily battle all for His glory. It is only through our conscious efforts to come to Him that we can have all our unkempt lifestyles be transformed to the way our Lord Jesus wants us to be. If you don't go to the barber, they barber will not come to you. If you refuse to go into the presence of God, God will not come into your presence. All He need from you is just to say: Jesus come to me. I need you to remove my unkempt lifestyle and only Your precious Blood can remove all my unkempt lifestyle.
A man went to a barbershop to have
his hair cut and his beard trimmed.
As the barber began to work, they began to have a good
conversation. They talked about so many things and various
subjects. When they eventually touched on the subject of God,
the barber said: "I don't believe that God exists."
"Why do you say that?" asked the customer.
"Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize
that God doesn't exist.
Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people?
Would there be abandoned children?
If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain.
I can't imagine a loving God who would allow all of these things."
The customer thought for a moment,
but didn't respond because he didn't want to start an argument.
The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop.
Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street
with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard.
He looked dirty and unkempt. The customer turned back
and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber:
"You know what? Barbers do not exist."
"How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber.
"I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!"
"No!" the customer exclaimed. "Barbers don't exist because
if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and
untrimmed beards, like that man outside."
"Ah, but barbers DO exist! That's what happens
when people do not come to me."
"Exactly!" affirmed the customer.
"That's the point! God, too, DOES exist!
That's what happens when people do not go to
Him and don't look to Him for help.
That's why there's so much pain and suffering in the world."
What would you expect to see the reaction by some of the readers to this simple story? It's obvious! Just like we see on the streets, they are people with untrimmed beared, unkempt hair, we can expect the use of 'unkempt' words to blaspheme God. Let's what these people of the street (or the lost and strayed sheep) have to say about this message. Does God exit? Yes - because these people have proved to us God's existence than God Himself indeed has! It is true that Christians who lived their Godly lives can be a powerful testimony to God's existence, it is equally true that those who don't believe in God and live 'godlessly' can show to the world the impact of a godless society - society flooded with unkempt words, unkempt speeches, unkempt businesses, unkempt occupations, unkempt vocations, unkempt entertainments, unkempt sports and most damaging, unkempt souls by rejecting the Blood of Jesus.
As children of God, we are blessed and we must be a blessing to others because we are all fighting some kind of battle each day. May we pray that God will strengthen us as we fought our daily battle all for His glory. It is only through our conscious efforts to come to Him that we can have all our unkempt lifestyles be transformed to the way our Lord Jesus wants us to be. If you don't go to the barber, they barber will not come to you. If you refuse to go into the presence of God, God will not come into your presence. All He need from you is just to say: Jesus come to me. I need you to remove my unkempt lifestyle and only Your precious Blood can remove all my unkempt lifestyle.
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Dear Psalm23,
God and Jesus are 2 different things. The barber does exists and he had just cut the hair for the man. Remember that man before his hair was cut went to look for a barber and the baber exists. As such the barber is a man and Jesus is also an earthly man. Jesus cannot be God and never claimed to be God. Jesus blood? Only witch and evil people used blood to symbolized their ritual, so are you playing witchhunt through Jesus blood.
If man has been searching for God, so where is HIM? HE is only mentioned in the Bible and claimed to be the ONLY ONE and says only the Jews was his people. God, if he exists, already had his mind set and choose the Jews to be his people. So what happen to the gentiles? If jews are god's people than gentiles are ungodly people.
God and Jesus are 2 different things. The barber does exists and he had just cut the hair for the man. Remember that man before his hair was cut went to look for a barber and the baber exists. As such the barber is a man and Jesus is also an earthly man. Jesus cannot be God and never claimed to be God. Jesus blood? Only witch and evil people used blood to symbolized their ritual, so are you playing witchhunt through Jesus blood.
If man has been searching for God, so where is HIM? HE is only mentioned in the Bible and claimed to be the ONLY ONE and says only the Jews was his people. God, if he exists, already had his mind set and choose the Jews to be his people. So what happen to the gentiles? If jews are god's people than gentiles are ungodly people.
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secondly, did God has permission to create us?
He is the one that condemns Adam because he 1st put the tree of knowledge.
Now, he claims he sent his ONLY begotten son to crucified on the cross for his 1st creation of human beings,,,,,, did he know what he was doing in the 1st case?
Imagine, an inventor create something who he knows will need his son to be sacrificed, and he still does it because .................????
In normal circumstance, IMH is the inventor's destination
He is the one that condemns Adam because he 1st put the tree of knowledge.
Now, he claims he sent his ONLY begotten son to crucified on the cross for his 1st creation of human beings,,,,,, did he know what he was doing in the 1st case?
Imagine, an inventor create something who he knows will need his son to be sacrificed, and he still does it because .................????
In normal circumstance, IMH is the inventor's destination
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Psalm23 , I agree with you about the parts you mentioned about God.. but when you ask ppl to say Jesus is God thats where everything gets muddled.
Can you believe that God is altogether greater than Jesus?what does Jesus himself mean when he said in the bible " MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I" ? does not this show that Jesus is not GOD?
very clear very simple and God is not the Author of confusion.
Can you believe that God is altogether greater than Jesus?what does Jesus himself mean when he said in the bible " MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I" ? does not this show that Jesus is not GOD?
very clear very simple and God is not the Author of confusion.
Father, I thank thee that whou hast heard me, And I know that thous hearest me always: be because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thous hast sent me. (JOHN 11:41-42)
Jesus speaking to himself??
“And they gave him(Jesus) a piece of broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
And he (Jesus) took it, and did eat before them.” (Luke24:42-43)
Jesus, like u and me, eat like any other human does...
Jesus speaking to himself??
“And they gave him(Jesus) a piece of broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
And he (Jesus) took it, and did eat before them.” (Luke24:42-43)
Jesus, like u and me, eat like any other human does...
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