The Truth Behind Dinesh Raman Death

[winnipegjets]

Inside our Prisons, an old bird prisoner who had ' seen it all done it all ' hardcore seasoned gangster would always keep a low profile during their imprisonment.. Even though they detest some of the Prison staff and the rigid environment, they tend to respect authority inside the Prison..

Its not because they are sissies, but they just can't be bothered to get into trouble because they know that any trouble committed by them will have serious repercussions as the Prisons Service has the right to extend their imprisonment duration should they misbehave inside the Prison..

These old time prisoners can't afford to misbehave as they too yearn to get out of prison ASAP so that they can be reunited with their loved ones soon and enjoy the freedom once more..

IMO, young punks like Dinesh who are the troublesome lot always eager to make a name for themselves inside the Prison so that they can brag to their Kaki Langs when released.. Assaulting a Prison staff will earn a prisoner respect and fame among fellow prisoners.. This is just a stupid mentality of a typical bird brain wet behind the ears young punks..

Words would soon get around fast among prisoners on the crime that you have committed when you are first admitted inside the prison..Prisoners have their sources..They know what's goin on outside..

Doing a bank robbery or a jewellery shop heist will earn the immediate respects of your fellow prisoners but not by doing petty crimes like rioting and robbing a 711 store..

It is probable but is that a fact in this case. You, like the others, totally dismiss the possibility that the instigator could be the prison officers. Why? Because the victim is a keling?

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

It's not an impersonation you TWIT, when everybody knows it to be untrue. It's a PARODY. Go get an imagination you PAP IB.

Fuck your asshole la! You put the actual person's photo as avatar and used his entire name wholesale without any modification. This is called PARODY? Maybe he did fuck you up badly. Now you have to resort to turning cheap tricks and legal jargon to 'impress' people in a forum.

Hehehe ... some people get worked up so easily. Indeed it is not easy to be a PAP IB. If they don't get swore at, then they get my preferred treatment ... mockery. These IB jokers' arteries may burst and medisave no enuff. Frappucinno anybody?

Hehehe....your silly manipulation of the word PARODY got exposed by me, and hence you have no balls to address me directly? I doubt you are a lawyer, let alone a good one.

 

[winnipegjets]

Holy fucking shit that is truly fucked up. Thank god the spears guys got dealt with assaulting an ill person in cuffs.

If that inmate was a keling, then it would be deserving?

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

If that inmate was a keling, then it would be deserving?

Why make this about the race?

Why did you neglect the fact that this is an asshole who attacked a prison officer without provocation, beat up his own mother because of money and went to jail for rioting? Gosh, you are stupider than i thought.

 

[winnipegjets]

Thanks for informing us about this and giving more insight into how the present prison system works and now nobody can make up allegations that the wardens are thugs that just abuse the prisoners for fun and because they have the authority to do so. Shows that singapore does have some standards too.

And there are no bad apples in the prison authority? Are you that gullible?

 

[zeddy]

It is probable but is that a fact in this case. You, like the others, totally dismiss the possibility that the instigator could be the prison officers. Why? Because the victim is a keling?

Try committing a crime and have a taste of prison life and you will know what I mean.. if you behave well and do not cause any trouble , there are absolutely no reasons why the Prison staff would want to pick on you..

 

[winnipegjets]

It must be very difficult to understand why this secret society thug beat up a prison officer without provocation. But you must understand the mentality and processing abilities of these thugs. Anything and i mean absolutely every fucking thing can be seen as insulting them. But i am not surprised. This asshole asked for it. Who beats up a prison officer unless he's asking for it?

And the prison officers will never be the instigators? Like we are asked to believe that the PAP ministers are the cream of the crops? Like we are asked to believe our scholars are the best talents in town?
Let's be more realistic.

 

[winnipegjets]

Ok let's see.....a chao prison inmate assault a prison officer without provocation. And pepper spray was used on him. Oh wow....sure sounds like 'abuse'. He deserves at least a few kicks to keep him in check.

The government has to pay compensation ...you think it will give you the full story, with those parts that would hurt their case to pay less to the victim's family?
Why can't the episode began with prison officers decided to have some sadistic fun with this keling inmate?

Maybe it's difficult for you to understand this concept. In prison, those monkey convicts see and copy. So if he has gotten off lightly, there will be prison officers getting beaten up daily. There should be a law to cane those scumbags who misbehave in the prison.

I am sure the prison officers have sent the message to all the inmate...if you don't accept our abuse, you will die and we will be protected by the government, our buddy just got off with a $10k fine which is even less than his month's salary.

 

[winnipegjets]

WTF is this shit? They probably gave him a standard beat down any inmate would have gotten if he assaulted a warden.

Well, their standard beating went awry this time, they killed him.
How do you know that he wasn't retaliating or defending him?

That is only your conjecture you see you're only selective when it comes to claiming the country's news are not honest with their reporting.

You think the PAP government is so dumb to put out aspects of the truth that will hurt its case to pay out the least compensation?

I was actually told that the warden said something which isn't offensive or provocative at all. He didn't insult anyone's mum or said something vulgar to that effect. This asshole dinesh deserved everything he got.

Wow, now you have become the insider with the facts. I can't argue with you then since you know all the facts of the case. I concede.

Ok mind telling me what other scenerios do you have in mind? I actually created one myself if you care to read back. Let's see what you have. Yet at the end of the day it's you just making up stuff. You don't have the evidence all you have is this BS made up stance that somehow the wardens have to be at fault and anyone that disagrees with you is pro pap and might i add that is actually a pap tactic.

I don't know the facts and neither do you. All we have are the 'facts' according to the government. The coroner inquest should not have been cancelled. Since when the criminal investigation has the final say? In Shane Todd's case, the SPF concluded that he committed suicide. A two-week, widely publicized, coroner inquiry still went ahead. There were cross examination of witness etc. While the conclusion was expected, keen observers could see the inconsistencies in the testimonies and form their own conclusion.
And then there is a slap in the wrist sentence for the perpetrator.
If these developments do not raise a question of doubt on the government story, you are more gullible than I thought you were.

 

[winnipegjets]

Try committing a crime and have a taste of prison life and you will know what I mean.. if you behave well and do not cause any trouble , there are absolutely no reasons why the Prison staff would want to pick on you..

I have seen how sadistic minions can be when they have some authority.

 

[WongMengMeng]

Hehehe....your silly manipulation of the word PARODY got exposed by me, and hence you have no balls to address me directly? I doubt you are a lawyer, let alone a good one.

Go check out what is the meaning of Parody. So long as it is obvious to anyone with normal IQ that I am not that useless person whose face is on my avatar, it is a Parody. It doesn't matter that I use the exact same name in my nick, even if persons of lower IQ, and there indeed were some who called me SC, mistook me for the real deal or just playing along to make the Parody more realistic and fun. Your definition of PARODY is a half past six one you FUCKING TWIT. I doubt you are even a degree holder. SO FUCK OFF FROM MY RANGE OF VISION.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parody

Anyone who has spent time in this forum for the past few months will know that even the real SCROOBAL can't argue with me and he is now missing in action. And you are his CLONE? Hahaha.

Readers can check out this link where the real SCROOBAL suffers a humiliating defeat under my hands.

http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?153525-Criminals-blaming-the-govt&p=1546560#post1546560

I am also responsible for your LockeLiberal being missing in action since 4th June. Readers can check out this link. Please bring him on.

http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?...SammyBoy!-His-Nick-is-LockeLiberal-Case-FIXED!

This seems like a nice place to stick this summary here:

Excuse me sir, do you know the meaning of justice?

Let me try to keep it short and in plain English:

1. Justice was already served. When A commits the crime of robbery or running a porn website and is convicted to say 6 months in the slammer that is justice served. Society in general and much less the ruffians in blue have no right to inflict further punishment for the original crime.

2. If A, be he Dinesh Whatever for robbery or Leongsam for running a porn website misbehaves when in the slammer, he ought to be dealt with according to prison rules.

3. Force may be used to subdue Dinesh Whatever or Leongsam, but only such force as is necessary to deal with the situation and thereafter subject him to punishment for misbehaviour in prison as per point 2 above.

4. If they use more force than is necessary and causes harm to Dinesh Whatever or Leongsam, then the prisoner or his estate (if he dies from the use of such unnecessary force) has the right to sue the Government.

5. When the Government is being sued, it is for all intents and purposes an ordinary litigant. In other words, it is not treated as superior or more likely to be believed and most importantly the Government must follow the procedures and principles which applies to cases put before the court. One of the most important principles is that commenting on a case that is before the courts may amount to interference with the judicial process and whoever does that should be charged for CONTEMPT OF COURT.

6. These general principles as stated above are for the protection of ALL, not just Dinesh Whatever or Leongsam and their strict enforcement is in the interest of society. Today it may be Dinesh Whatever, tomorrow it may be Leongsam’s issue (legal jargon for child) who suffers at the hands of ruffians in blue who had quarrels with their wives the previous night and need to take it out on somebody anybody and the easiest targets are those so-called scums under their custody. By the way, the ruffians in blue are enforcing that custody on behalf of the people and the prison grounds are not their personal playground.

Now, any more questions? Don't you think that I am at least as good if not better than the person whose face is on my avatar? Just kidding.

My apologies for being so curt and to the point but it pains me that Sinkies are so unaware of many concepts which are fundamental to democracy – one of the most important of which is RULE OF LAW.

Bwahahaha. Let me see when shall I check it again? Post #183 ish and # 195 ish sounds about right. Cover the front and back end of the upcoming page.

Bwahahaha.

 

[winnipegjets]

Why make this about the race?

Unless my recollection is wrong, there were plenty of references that he was a keling and thus deserving to die.

Why did you neglect the fact that this is an asshole who attacked a prison officer without provocation, beat up his own mother because of money and went to jail for rioting? Gosh, you are stupider than i thought.

'Without provocation' - I rather have a coroner inquiry to establish that.
i have to return the compliment of stupidity because I thought you knew how to read between the lines and form your own conclusion. Right now, you just believe the government's tale as the biblical truth. I am indeed disappointed.

 

[kopiuncle]

i can see many high powered intellectuals here
they are here with a very strong agenda
with fire in their belly and passion in their words
i will stay away while they cross their swords

 

[winnipegjets]

i can see many high powered intellectuals here
they are here with a very strong agenda
with fire in their belly and passion in their words
i will stay away while they cross their swords

Kopiuncle, I joining your team already lah. Where is the kopi session?

 

[WongMengMeng]

post #173, this Kopi embedded his subliminal message in line 2. this looks quite Scroobalish to me. no agenda do I have. seeking justice is not an agenda, it is a duty. contributing to the unsinkification process is in a way the performing of that duty. to undo the subliminal message - NO AGENDA.

 

[kopiuncle]

post #173, this Kopi embedded his subliminal message in line 2. this looks quite Scroobalish to me. no agenda do I have. seeking justice is not an agenda, it is a duty. contributing to the unsinkification process is in a way the performing of that duty. to undo the subliminal message - NO AGENDA.

Mr Wong , I have not replied to you before. I respect your great knowledge and intellect. But please do not get me wrong.There is nothing subtle or subliminal about my post #173. I have nothing to do with Mr Scroobal too. Both of you are just too powerful for me.I will withdraw with humility for your power and knowledge are beyond me.

You can see for yourself There is This Mad Man who keeps INFRACTING ME ( 21 times )...As a man who champions Justice, do you think I am being unfairly Infracted? Do I deserve to be Infracted for almost every posting here? Thank you.

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

post #173, this Kopi embedded his subliminal message in line 2. this looks quite Scroobalish to me. no agenda do I have. seeking justice is not an agenda, it is a duty. contributing to the unsinkification process is in a way the performing of that duty. to undo the subliminal message - NO AGENDA.

You don't have agenda? Odd. Then why use another man's photo and full exact name to make posting? Oh...must be a man who bears a hatred for the man who fucked him up. Did Meng Meng f your wife? Why the agenda against him?

 

[WongMengMeng]

You don't have agenda? Odd. Then why use another man's photo and full exact name to make posting? Oh...must be a man who bears a hatred for the man who fucked him up. Did Meng Meng f your wife? Why the agenda against him?

There is no agenda from my choice of nick and avatar. This character just happened to be in the news at the relevant time. Don't read too much into these things. It is as childish as the "small caps = PAP IB" theorem. Read the contents of the posts that any forummer makes and make your own conclusions.

PAP IBs uses avatars and nicks to throw people off guard. The classic is LockeLIBERAL, but when you actually read his posts with a fine comb, he is no liberal.

 

[kopiuncle]

Brilliant piece of advcie indeed..

Don't read too much into these things. It is as childish as the "small caps = PAP IB" theorem. Read the contents of the posts that any forummer makes and make your own conclusions.

But did you draw the wrong conclusion about kopiuncle ? Thank you.

 

[winnipegjets]

You can see for yourself There is This Mad Man who keeps INFRACTING ME ( 21 times )...As a man who champions Justice, do you think I am being unfairly Infracted? Do I deserve to be Infracted for almost every posting here? Thank you.

Why you make enemies? Now, you call Kee Chiu to help you lah.