The Truth Behind Dinesh Raman Death

[SadPlumpGirl]

Dinesh is a fucker lah. PAP should not even pay a cent of taxpayers money to his ah neh mother.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Dinesh is a fucker lah. PAP should not even pay a cent of taxpayers money to his ah neh mother.

Oh! you are a pappy dog!! According to some ppl here.

 

[winnipegjets]

those aren't assumptions but estimations from his criminal past and behavior.

Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply?

Mind you yourself are making an assumption that he will correct himself but from the looks of things i have a better chance of saying he is incorrigible.

So, it should be guilty until proven innocent? Well, if that's your stance, the PAP is just perfect for you.

Who cares if there are big or small members? You do the crime you do the time. You're going off tangent here and there talking about big or small time ss members. There are big time ss bosses that don't commit any crimes and there are small time ss members that commit violent crimes and of course there are ppl not even in ss that commit violent crimes what does one's rank have to do with the punishment. You're just blindly shooting off hundreds of rounds making sure one will hit.

You assume the worst in others and take that as the truth while I work on the basis of fact. I ain't shooting wildly.

I didn't assume and i gave a couple of scenerios that could have instigated him. I mentioned maybe the warden said something to him in which case it's stupid if he got provoked. I then asked you guys under what circumstances can a warden or a police officer since most of us have not been inside a jail cell so a police officer would be a better analogy could provoke a person to attack him? I then decided ok maybe the wardens decided to rape him. Now that is a great cause for someone to attack the wardens but everyone knows that is just BS.

The fact is that the inmate died. What happened? The coroner inquiry could have revealed that. But it was shut down. Why? The perpetrator was given a slap in the wrist sentence. Is that justice? Well, it may be for you but for many who value a just society for all, it is not.


Also why call it the PAP? No shit PAP is the ruling party but has nothing to do whatsoever in this case. PAP cannot be bothered with such a case cos it has nothing political whatsoever. PAP has something to hide. Why this dinesh fucker is some type of anti pap rebel?[/QUOTE]

 

[winnipegjets]

The worst thing about some pro dinesh ppl in here is that they are trying to make this an anti PAP thing and call those that support dinesh getting his due punishment pap dogs what a joke you buggers are. There is nothing political about this thread and dinesh isn't some type of anti pap freedom type of political prisoner he's just a low life gangster trust you to bring politics into the picture to try and make it seem that those that support the judgement are pro pappy dogs.

The PAP runs the country ...it treats sinkees arbitrarily ...for the death of this inmate, the perpetrator gets a $10k fine which is a slap in the wrist sentence. Why is the government shutting down the coroner inquiry? Something to hide. Why should the death of this sinkee be treated lightly and brushed off? If they can do this, why can't they do this again to political detainees?
So, there is a political implication to this.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply?



So, it should be guilty until proven innocent? Well, if that's your stance, the PAP is just perfect for you.

WTF are you talking about? We're basing it on his criminal behavior. This fucker is alreadt guilty as charged that is why he is in prison. You're just making up rubbish.

You assume the worst in others and take that as the truth while I work on the basis of fact. I ain't shooting wildly.

Of course you are shooting wildly. I don't assume anything at all. Here's someone that even had his own mother take out a PPO against him. These aren't assumptions but facts you're just making up nonsense with no basis whatsoever that he will correct himself when you don't have any evidence to prove so. You're the one full of BS and the worst thing is you lie that you work in facts.

The fact is that the inmate died. What happened? The coroner inquiry could have revealed that. But it was shut down. Why? The perpetrator was given a slap in the wrist sentence. Is that justice? Well, it may be for you but for many who value a just society for all, it is not.

WTF is this shit? Who are you to even determine the level of punishment? Following your logic we can all agree the editor that killed the cyclist and just got a fine and the numerous cases all got a slap on the wrist sentence right? Is that right? Why not you fight for all of them?

The inmate died but it was due to unforseen circumstances not that he was deliberately killed. Why not you use this type of logic and get rid of the manslaughter charge. There are different charges for a person getting killed whether it was by accident, unintentional or with intent why not you just argue hey the fact is the person just died.




Still sickening for you to try and make this into some sort of political thread.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

The PAP runs the country ...it treats sinkees arbitrarily ...for the death of this inmate, the perpetrator gets a $10k fine which is a slap in the wrist sentence. Why is the government shutting down the coroner inquiry? Something to hide. Why should the death of this sinkee be treated lightly and brushed off? If they can do this, why can't they do this again to political detainees?
So, there is a political implication to this.

No shit the PAP runs the country but the fact of the matter is it has nothing to do with politics. Might as well you go the entire gamut and talk about corruption in HDB, in banks, in hiring practices, in letting in foreigners, in preferential treatment for certain people etc.

No the fact of the matter is by bringing in the PAP you are trying to illicit some type of response from ppl which is just plain low down. Like those that support dinesh death = pro pappy dogs and you are some sort of anti pap freedom fighter. Rubbish.

 

[winnipegjets]

No shit the PAP runs the country but the fact of the matter is it has nothing to do with politics. Might as well you go the entire gamut and talk about corruption in HDB, in banks, in hiring practices, in letting in foreigners, in preferential treatment for certain people etc.

The law should be applied fairly. We are supposed to be a developed country, yet we have a government that condones the variable application of the law. The death of an inmate is deemed acceptable while the death of an angmo gets a long full-blown coroner inquiry.
That's why we need a political change to bring in true democracy, not one that the government can suka suka kill anyone it pleases.

No the fact of the matter is by bringing in the PAP you are trying to illicit some type of response from ppl which is just plain low down. Like those that support dinesh death = pro pappy dogs and you are some sort of anti pap freedom fighter. Rubbish.

If you support the summary killing of a person, you buy into the PAP's philosophy that they are above the law and do as they please. That's a fact, not rubbish.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

The coroner inquiry could have revealed that. But it was shut down. Why? The perpetrator was given a slap in the wrist sentence. Is that justice? Well, it may be for you but for many who value a just society for all, it is not.

The PAP runs the country ...it treats sinkees arbitrarily ...for the death of this inmate, the perpetrator gets a $10k fine which is a slap in the wrist sentence. Why is the government shutting down the coroner inquiry? Something to hide. Why should the death of this sinkee be treated lightly and brushed off? If they can do this, why can't they do this again to political detainees?
So, there is a political implication to this.

I want to ask you something. You admit that the pap runs singapore. ok. Therefore they could have simply changed the contents of the coroner's inquiry or simply get the coroner to write whatever they please correct? Therefore what's the point of having the inquiry? In fact i am very certain you would have come to this conclusion had the inquiry been released the fact of the matter is you just simply want to choose what u want to believe in and even worse make it sound factual.

The law should be applied fairly. We are supposed to be a developed country, yet we have a government that condones the variable application of the law. The death of an inmate is deemed acceptable while the death of an angmo gets a long full-blown coroner inquiry.
That's why we need a political change to bring in true democracy, not one that the government can suka suka kill anyone it pleases.

Stop making up shit la. What death of an inmate is acceptable? He died due to unfortunate circumstances and death of which ang moh? Show the names at least. Ok why would the govt want to kill dinesh? Pray tell why do they want him dead? Being an incorrigible gangster usually wouldn't warrant his death since there are plenty of them in singapore. So state a motive. Was dinesh going to effect a regime change in singapore?

If you support the summary killing of a person, you buy into the PAP's philosophy that they are above the law and do as they please. That's a fact, not rubbish.

Don't make up rubbish la. What support summary killing? It's the unfortunate or in this case fortunate death of a scum of society. He certainly wasn't killed.

 

[winnipegjets]

I want to ask you something. You admit that the pap runs singapore. ok. Therefore they could have simply changed the contents of the coroner's inquiry or simply get the coroner to write whatever they please correct? Therefore what's the point of having the inquiry? In fact i am very certain you would have come to this conclusion had the inquiry been released the fact of the matter is you just simply want to choose what u want to believe in and even worse make it sound factual.

Having a coroner inquiry at least would require the government to have to do more to cover up. There will be cross-examination and witnesses testifying in court. And a slip-up is more likely as well. That's the point.
I operate on fact, not just swallowing everything that the PAP press spews out. The fact is that an inmate died in prison. How he died remains an unanswered question which a coroner inquiry would shed more light. In the case of the Shane Todd, the government didn't take the cops' finding as final. There was still an open court coroner inquiry. So, why the change in approach in the case of the inmate?

Stop making up shit la. What death of an inmate is acceptable? He died due to unfortunate circumstances and death of which ang moh? Show the names at least. Ok why would the govt want to kill dinesh? Pray tell why do they want him dead? Being an incorrigible gangster usually wouldn't warrant his death since there are plenty of them in singapore. So state a motive. Was dinesh going to effect a regime change in singapore?

Why you take everything the PAP press print as truth? I didn't say the government intended to kill him but the abuse of inmates is tolerated and in this case, it went to far, resulting in a death. Is this unfortunate or deliberate? While you consider it unfortunate, I consider it an abuse and I believe that no one should be above the law, including prison officers. Yet, the light sentence given to the perpetrator suggests something is amiss.

Don't make up rubbish la. What support summary killing? It's the unfortunate or in this case fortunate death of a scum of society. He certainly wasn't killed.

So, he died naturally ah? The inmate was subjected to some form of abuse and he died. It could be unintentional but surely, the prison officers that abused him had to be aware that their actions could result in death. So, you can close an eye to it just because he is an inmate and you decided that he was the scum of the earth?

 

[winnipegjets]

WTF are you talking about? We're basing it on his criminal behavior. This fucker is alreadt guilty as charged that is why he is in prison. You're just making up rubbish.

He was paying his dues in prison. His punishment was imprison, NOT to the subject of abuse and consequently death.

Of course you are shooting wildly. I don't assume anything at all. Here's someone that even had his own mother take out a PPO against him. These aren't assumptions but facts you're just making up nonsense with no basis whatsoever that he will correct himself when you don't have any evidence to prove so. You're the one full of BS and the worst thing is you lie that you work in facts.

By your own logic, a thief would end up a murderer then. What crap is that?

WTF is this shit? Who are you to even determine the level of punishment? Following your logic we can all agree the editor that killed the cyclist and just got a fine and the numerous cases all got a slap on the wrist sentence right? Is that right? Why not you fight for all of them?

It is justice ...a death = $10k ...I don't think that is a fair exchange. You support harsh punishment for crime, so why are you inconsistent in this regard?
I am for all drivers who kill someone on the road to receive harsher sentences. A fine is just a slap on the wrist.

The inmate died but it was due to unforseen circumstances not that he was deliberately killed. Why not you use this type of logic and get rid of the manslaughter charge. There are different charges for a person getting killed whether it was by accident, unintentional or with intent why not you just argue hey the fact is the person just died.

Stop the bs excuse of 'unforseen circumstances'. When those prison guards decide to abuse that inmate, they should have known better that it could get out of hand and someone getting hurt or die. That's not unforseen. This to me is as good as second degree murder. Did they didn't even bother to put a manslaughter charge on the perpetrators?

Still sickening for you to try and make this into some sort of political thread.

It is political ...if you want to support the PAP on this one where they chose to protect the culprits and swept the facts under the carpet, then you are as good as a PAPpy. Be consistent lah. I don't mind you are a PAPpy.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Having a coroner inquiry at least would require the government to have to do more to cover up. There will be cross-examination and witnesses testifying in court. And a slip-up is more likely as well. That's the point.
I operate on fact, not just swallowing everything that the PAP press spews out. The fact is that an inmate died in prison. How he died remains an unanswered question which a coroner inquiry would shed more light. In the case of the Shane Todd, the government didn't take the cops' finding as final. There was still an open court coroner inquiry. So, why the change in approach in the case of the inmate?

Facts my ass you're just operating on your opinion that the wardens purposely set out to kill this asshole. That's it.

Why you take everything the PAP press print as truth? I didn't say the government intended to kill him but the abuse of inmates is tolerated and in this case, it went to far, resulting in a death. Is this unfortunate or deliberate? While you consider it unfortunate, I consider it an abuse and I believe that no one should be above the law, including prison officers. Yet, the light sentence given to the perpetrator suggests something is amiss.

Hey no shit not everything the press prints is the truth but they don't hide everything. Do you think they hide the facts on the CHC case? Do you think they hide the facts on reports of say weather, traffic jams, crime etc? If yes well then don't ever bother to read anything from the press or are you just being selective? So do you think the press reports factually on the chc case?

So, he died naturally ah? The inmate was subjected to some form of abuse and he died. It could be unintentional but surely, the prison officers that abused him had to be aware that their actions could result in death. So, you can close an eye to it just because he is an inmate and you decided that he was the scum of the earth?

He kicked a warden. If you kick a warden you will suffer consequences. It happens in prisons all over the world. Would you like to kick the warden in say a US prison and see if they don't beat you up in retaliation?

It's odd you seem to think it's ok for him to kick a warden.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

He was paying his dues in prison. His punishment was imprison, NOT to the subject of abuse and consequently death.


By your own logic, a thief would end up a murderer then. What crap is that?

Do you even know how to read? Was he abused just for fun? No he kicked a warden. Have you forgotten? Oh yes i am sure you have selective amensia.

When i mentioned he was guilty as charged it meant he is already a scum bag of society that is why he is in jail in the first place mind telling me how does that logic of mine make it seem that a thief should be a murderer?

You are just making up all sorts of nonsense now putting words into others mouths and coming up with all sorts of nonsensical comparisons.

It is justice ...a death = $10k ...I don't think that is a fair exchange. You support harsh punishment for crime, so why are you inconsistent in this regard?
I am for all drivers who kill someone on the road to receive harsher sentences. A fine is just a slap on the wrist.

Mind telling me how am i inconsistent when the upholders of the law are merely upholding the law trying to teach a scumbag his place? In fact you are inconsistent you seem to think that this fine upstanding member of society dinesh doesn't even deserve to be jailed.

Stop the bs excuse of 'unforseen circumstances'. When those prison guards decide to abuse that inmate, they should have known better that it could get out of hand and someone getting hurt or die. That's not unforseen. This to me is as good as second degree murder. Did they didn't even bother to put a manslaughter charge on the perpetrators?

It is unforseen. They don't expect the prisoners to die if not they will get into trouble and they have. I also found out that any prisoner that assaults a warden gets manhandled or beaten and it happens in every country in the world. Try beating up a prison warden in japan see if they'll just let you off or give you additional punishment.

It is political ...if you want to support the PAP on this one where they chose to protect the culprits and swept the facts under the carpet, then you are as good as a PAPpy. Be consistent lah. I don't mind you are a PAPpy.

Political my ass. This is just the case of some scumbag that was so weak that he died and put those poor wardens in trouble. Nothing to do with politics. Cheap move there by trying to paint ppl on the wardens side as pappy dogs. You're just using this fucker's death as a way to get back at the govt. Sounds like you're the scummy one.

 

[palden]

A ah men's death generate so much interest? Sinkees got nothing better to do.

 

[Asterix]

A ah men's death generate so much interest? Sinkees got nothing better to do.

Mister one-liner IB your siggie is far longer
But seriously doubt you know what it means

 

[red amoeba]

evidently everything wrong is pap fault ...yes that is wat some ppl here feel. no doubt pap is far from perfect but anything negative is pap is abit extreme. there is no dispute that he attacked the warden n he was subdued. govt acknowledged action was overdone n punished the warden...wat else to appease the deceased side n the mob here ? home affairs minister to quit perhaps ?

dinesh was in the cooler bcos he committed a crime n he was subdued bcos he attacked a warden ...u dont do that in a prison. y he attacked the warden bcos he doolan he was deprived of yard time which was bcos he committed another offense. that sjows something isnt it ? that dinesh is not a goodie boy despite being in prison.

u guys noe well in army....maybe he thio marked liao bcos of his antics but ask y he thio marked...wat did he do ? if he has been behaving...there r so mny inmates in changi resort....child molestors rapist swindlers they dont get marked ? how cum we dun hear they get whacked ?

 

[Asterix]

A ah men's death generate so much interest? Sinkees got nothing better to do.

An Ah Neh's death generate so much interest
Is not 'cos Ah Neh or Ah Chink you Ah TWIT
Gabrament's fucked up attitude to rule of law
That's what eberybody's talking about
Mister one-liner IB your siggie is far longer
But seriously doubt you know what it means
Deaths in custody are no small matter
In Switzerland and other First World countries
Emphasise is on the word CUSTODY twit
On behalf of the people and not your playground

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

evidently everything wrong is pap fault ...yes that is wat some ppl here feel. no doubt pap is far from perfect but anything negative is pap is abit extreme. there is no dispute that he attacked the warden n he was subdued. govt acknowledged action was overdone n punished the warden...wat else to appease the deceased side n the mob here ? home affairs minister to quit perhaps ?

dinesh was in the cooler bcos he committed a crime n he was subdued bcos he attacked a warden ...u dont do that in a prison. y he attacked the warden bcos he doolan he was deprived of yard time which was bcos he committed another offense. that sjows something isnt it ? that dinesh is not a goodie boy despite being in prison.

u guys noe well in army....maybe he thio marked liao bcos of his antics but ask y he thio marked...wat did he do ? if he has been behaving...there r so mny inmates in changi resort....child molestors rapist swindlers they dont get marked ? how cum we dun hear they get whacked ?

I can also bet if dinesh wasn't a keling but a chinese fewer ppl would have been dulan about it. These assholes feeling for a shit skin criminal.

 

[winnipegjets]

I can also bet if dinesh wasn't a keling but a chinese fewer ppl would have been dulan about it. These assholes feeling for a shit skin criminal.

I am race-blind on this. Even if you were the victim, I would not have stood my ground on this. How can we demand for democratic rights when we condone the abuse of inmates and their death as a consequence? We can't pick and choose who is entitled to rights. It is for all or for none.

 

[YanDao]

Anyone who is against Dinesh is PAP dog!

Oh! you are a pappy dog!! According to some ppl here.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

I am race-blind on this. Even if you were the victim, I would not have stood my ground on this. How can we demand for democratic rights when we condone the abuse of inmates and their death as a consequence? We can't pick and choose who is entitled to rights. It is for all or for none.

Well since i already mentioned this of course ppl wouldn't openly admit it but you can observe it and you will see what i write to be true.

Anyone who is against Dinesh is PAP dog!

Nuts man even need to support a shit skin criminal. Next time can just accuse anyone not for your opinion as a pap dog.