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Tan Kin Lian support thread

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Ah Tan now preparing for tonight's (30 Aug 2023 ) live stream broadcast

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Goh Yan Han
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AUG 24, 2023, 11:58 AM SGT

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SINGAPORE - Details for the two scheduled 10-minute presidential candidate broadcasts on Aug 24 and Aug 30 were released by the Infocomm Media Development Authority on Wednesday.
Singaporeans can tune in to the three presidential candidates’ messages across 19 free-to-air television and radio channels, which will cover the four official languages.
He hasn't give up?
Why?
 
24 Aug 2023


Ah Tan was 2nd with 72,000 views ( NKS 100k views , TS 58k views )

Presidential candidate broadcast: Tan Kin Lian says vital to have "different types of people" at top​



How different ish different?

Different ish very nice?
 
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...FNxt9adH3l&id=100044588402324&mibextid=Nif5oz

Dr Chee Soon Juan has now endorsed Mr Tan Kin Lian too!​

I don’t think it comes as a surprise to anyone that I had initially planned to vote for Mr Tan Kin Lian in this Presidential Election.

But after hearing Mr Tan’s utterances on some issues over the past week, I found myself (and I suspect like many of you) wavering in my support of his candidacy.

I am not enthusiastic, for different reasons, about all three candidates. And yet, come Friday, I have to make a decision.

To this end, I am reminded that life seldom packages things neatly into good and bad, right and wrong for us to choose. The reality is that we are often faced with moral dilemmas where we have to choose the best from a bad lot.

On this, we must remember a very important life lesson: Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

While I consider Mr Tharman to be the most cerebral of the three candidates, what is more important is the fact that for more than two decades, he was part of the ruling clique that systematically stripped Singaporeans of their voice and ability to choose their own leaders.

He was in the party that (1) changed the rules of the Elected Presidency so that Halimah Yacob walked into the Istana without challenge, (2) enacted yet more changes to the PE so that previously eligible candidates are now disqualified, (3) introduced the GRC system that has enabled his party’s overwhelming hold on parliamentary power, (4) legislated POFMA which further curtailed free speech in Singapore, (5) allowed ministers to rent enormous state-owned bungalows while herding Singaporeans into tiny flats – the list rolls on.

To believe now that he is independent running for president is to believe that water flows upwards.

Then, there’s Tan Kin Lian. I know of two young women who are eligible to vote this PE. They are strong-minded and fiercely independent. They are my daughters and I am their biggest admirer. This is the reason I find Mr Tan’s “pretty girl” remark off-colour.

Intended or not, his comments trivialise the worth of women and does nothing to advance their empowerment and promote gender equality. I’m glad that he has apologised for them.

I also find myself in deep conflict with his view that the voting age be raised to 30. If my son, who is about to serve his National Service, can be called upon to fight in an armed conflict should one break out, and be trusted to make decisions that could mean the difference between dying and living for himself and his platoon mates, then why can’t he be trusted to choose his government?

To ask a man to kill or be killed for his country and then deny him of the right to vote seems illogical – indeed, deeply immoral.

Three, Mr Tan said that "I don't believe politics solves problems” and that "opposition does not help”. I can only hope that he was misquoted or his words were taken out of context.

Many of us spent our lives fighting for a system in which political parties, civil society and non-government organisations actively participate in political debate and public life. To make throwaway lines like this is reprehensible.

I’ve heard many people who were initially inclined towards voting for Mr Tan are now, because of his remarks, expressing their desire to cast a spoilt vote or voting for Mr Ng Kok Song.

If you are thinking of doing this, I beseech you to re-consider your decision.

To spoil your vote is akin to doing nothing; it’s like standing around and watching while a house is on fire. At this crucial juncture of our country’s development, we cannot afford to remain a bystander and do nothing.

The last time we got to vote for a president was in 2011. After 12 long years, we finally get that chance again. That vote is too precious to spoil.

As to voting for Mr Mg Kok Song, I can do no better than to remind you of what Mdm Ho Ching said: “It is good that Singaporeans can choose between 2 very capable and worthy persons (Tharman and Ng).”

I think Mdm Ho very ably expresses my concern about voting for Mr Ng Kok Song – he and Mr Tharman are but two different shades of grey.

For all that he has expressed, much of which as I pointed out I vehemently disagree with, Mr Tan Kin Lian is a good man. I share his views on CPF, high salaries of elected officials, and National Service.

But that’s not the reason why I find myself advocating for him at this late stage of the election. The real reason is this: All of Mr Tan’s transgressions pale in comparison to the damage that Mr Tharman’s (former) party has done to democracy in Singapore and, more importantly, the harm it will continue to inflict on our nation’s future development.

Besides, Mr Tan’s views are not immutable. He can be educated through debate and discussion to see things differently (as with his apology about women).

On this occasion, we, as citizens, are called to make a profoundly important decision, a decision that will determine the direction of how our country proceeds.

We have in Tan Kin Lian who, for all his foibles, carries with him the hope that, if elected, we can start to pry open, one finger at a time, the PAP’s suffocating grip on our country and start the arduous but exciting process of building democracy for our nation.

As imperfect as the choice on Friday is, if it helps to “build a democratic society, based on justice and equality”, then it should be clear who we choose.

I choose Singapore.
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Another Must Read Masterpiece
for beloved sifu Aung Juan Soon Chee ,

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I don’t think it comes as a surprise to anyone that I had initially planned to vote for Mr Tan Kin Lian in this Presidential Election.

But after hearing Mr Tan’s utterances on some issues over the past week, I found myself (and I suspect like many of you) wavering in my support of his candidacy.

I am not enthusiastic, for different reasons, about all three candidates. And yet, come Friday, I have to make a decision.

To this end, I am reminded that life seldom packages things neatly into good and bad, right and wrong for us to choose. The reality is that we are often faced with moral dilemmas where we have to choose the best from a bad lot.

On this, we must remember a very important life lesson: Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

While I consider Mr Tharman to be the most cerebral of the three candidates, what is more important is the fact that for more than two decades, he was part of the ruling clique that systematically stripped Singaporeans of their voice and ability to choose their own leaders.

He was in the party that (1) changed the rules of the Elected Presidency so that Halimah Yacob walked into the Istana without challenge, (2) enacted yet more changes to the PE so that previously eligible candidates are now disqualified, (3) introduced the GRC system that has enabled his party’s overwhelming hold on parliamentary power, (4) legislated POFMA which further curtailed free speech in Singapore, (5) allowed ministers to rent enormous state-owned bungalows while herding Singaporeans into tiny flats – the list rolls on.

To believe now that he is independent running for president is to believe that water flows upwards.

Then, there’s Tan Kin Lian. I know of two young women who are eligible to vote this PE. They are strong-minded and fiercely independent. They are my daughters and I am their biggest admirer. This is the reason I find Mr Tan’s “pretty girl” remark off-colour.

Intended or not, his comments trivialise the worth of women and does nothing to advance their empowerment and promote gender equality. I’m glad that he has apologised for them.

I also find myself in deep conflict with his view that the voting age be raised to 30. If my son, who is about to serve his National Service, can be called upon to fight in an armed conflict should one break out, and be trusted to make decisions that could mean the difference between dying and living for himself and his platoon mates, then why can’t he be trusted to choose his government?

To ask a man to kill or be killed for his country and then deny him of the right to vote seems illogical – indeed, deeply immoral.

Three, Mr Tan said that "I don't believe politics solves problems” and that "opposition does not help”. I can only hope that he was misquoted or his words were taken out of context.

Many of us spent our lives fighting for a system in which political parties, civil society and non-government organisations actively participate in political debate and public life. To make throwaway lines like this is reprehensible.

I’ve heard many people who were initially inclined towards voting for Mr Tan are now, because of his remarks, expressing their desire to cast a spoilt vote or voting for Mr Ng Kok Song.

If you are thinking of doing this, I beseech you to re-consider your decision.

To spoil your vote is akin to doing nothing; it’s like standing around and watching while a house is on fire. At this crucial juncture of our country’s development, we cannot afford to remain a bystander and do nothing.

The last time we got to vote for a president was in 2011. After 12 long years, we finally get that chance again. That vote is too precious to spoil.

As to voting for Mr Mg Kok Song, I can do no better than to remind you of what Mdm Ho Ching said: “It is good that Singaporeans can choose between 2 very capable and worthy persons (Tharman and Ng).”

I think Mdm Ho very ably expresses my concern about voting for Mr Ng Kok Song – he and Mr Tharman are but two different shades of grey.

For all that he has expressed, much of which as I pointed out I vehemently disagree with, Mr Tan Kin Lian is a good man. I share his views on CPF, high salaries of elected officials, and National Service.

But that’s not the reason why I find myself advocating for him at this late stage of the election. The real reason is this: All of Mr Tan’s transgressions pale in comparison to the damage that Mr Tharman’s (former) party has done to democracy in Singapore and, more importantly, the harm it will continue to inflict on our nation’s future development.

Besides, Mr Tan’s views are not immutable. He can be educated through debate and discussion to see things differently (as with his apology about women).

On this occasion, we, as citizens, are called to make a profoundly important decision, a decision that will determine the direction of how our country proceeds.

We have in Tan Kin Lian who, for all his foibles, carries with him the hope that, if elected, we can start to pry open, one finger at a time, the PAP’s suffocating grip on our country and start the arduous but exciting process of building democracy for our nation.

As imperfect as the choice on Friday is, if it helps to “build a democratic society, based on justice and equality”, then it should be clear who we choose.

I choose Singapore.
 
Don't be a stubborn old fart and chuan niu jiao jian and spoil a precious vote
Don't be a egoistic old fart to vote for tharman just because you feel is more normal to do that.
Don't be a stupid fool to vote for nks just because you dislike tharman and think noone else to vote for.

PLEASE VOTE FOR TKL
 
Don't be a stubborn old fart and chuan niu jiao jian and spoil a precious vote
Don't be a egoistic old fart to vote for tharman just because you feel is more normal to do that.
Don't be a stupid fool to vote for nks just because you dislike tharman and think noone else to vote for.

PLEASE VOTE FOR TKL
Only stupid idiot will vote for tharman because the pm is already a pap member, so you think voting for tharman he can guard sg reserves more properly together with the pm?
Why the pm cannot guard himself and need another guard? Stupid idiot think about this.
 
Only stupid idiot will vote for tharman because the pm is already a pap member, so you think voting for tharman he can guard sg reserves more properly together with the pm?
Why the pm cannot guard himself and need another guard? Stupid idiot think about this.
Don't say stupid idiot lah.

If you are son of PAP ministers, you will not vote for Tharman meh ? If you are PAP member, you will not vote for Tharman meh ? You are not idiot. You are just protecting your rice bowl. :rolleyes:

Nobody really fuck care about the mechanics of the system.

For one group, Tharman is their alter ego. If I support Manchester United, I wear their jersey, then in some way I'm telling other people that I support champion, I'm also a champion in some way mah.

For another group, TKL is a weapon that they throw at PAP. They don't admire TKL and his antics (I mean, who would ?), but they think TKL can embarrass PAP, so they vote for TKL.

NKS is a in-between. It's a matter of whether you want to throw eggs or hurl shit at your main enemy. For me, NKS represents eggs only.:biggrin:
 
Don't say stupid idiot lah.

If you are son of PAP ministers, you will not vote for Tharman meh ? If you are PAP member, you will not vote for Tharman meh ? You are not idiot. You are just protecting your rice bowl. :rolleyes:

Nobody really fuck care about the mechanics of the system.

For one group, Tharman is their alter ego. If I support Manchester United, I wear their jersey, then in some way I'm telling other people that I support champion, I'm also a champion in some way mah.

For another group, TKL is a weapon that they throw at PAP. They don't admire TKL and his antics (I mean, who would ?), but they think TKL can embarrass PAP, so they vote for TKL.

NKS is a in-between. It's a matter of whether you want to throw eggs or hurl shit at your main enemy. For me, NKS represents eggs only.:biggrin:
I Forgot to say
I'm referring to those who are neither a pap doggie nor a oppie aka a true patriots :geek: :biggrin:
Because got many thinking sg will be in better shape if they vote for tharman and not because he is a ex pap member.
 
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...FNxt9adH3l&id=100044588402324&mibextid=Nif5oz

Dr Chee Soon Juan has now endorsed Mr Tan Kin Lian too!​


[...] As to voting for Mr Mg Kok Song, I can do no better than to remind you of what Mdm Ho Ching said: “It is good that Singaporeans can choose between 2 very capable and worthy persons (Tharman and Ng).”

I think Mdm Ho very ably expresses my concern about voting for Mr Ng Kok Song – he and Mr Tharman are but two different shades of grey.

[...]

I choose Singapore.
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If this clown talks about "different shades of grey", how is Lau Chee Hong not part of that "shade of grey"???

Lau Chee Hong is more than a shade closer to the PAP than NKS. This is considering the fact that he was a PAP member for 30 years and Goh Chok Tong's personal dog, and a top one at that (just one level below MP within the PAP hierarchy), for decades. A significant time of his 30 years in NTUC Income was devoted to carrying PAP balls, sucking PAP cocks and supporting and organising events for the PAP.

Thus, if one were to argue on the basis of "shades of grey", Lau Chee Hong is definitely of that shade closer to the PAP compared to NKS. If one were to use cloth as a metaphor, Lau Chee Hong's partisan and active participation in politics as a PAP member must surely mean that he is cut from the same PAP cloth compared to the bureaucrat that is NKS.

The truth is very much simpler. CSJ sees this as a proxy battle and a proxy grudge match between him and Tharman. This is after he, his sister, Ghandi, Isa and Vincent were trounced by Tharman and his team in 2001 in Jurong GRC by a margin of 79.75% to 20.25% ...
 
... All these mosquitoes and clowns try to pass off their personal grievances as one centering on Singapore. In this case, CSJ tops this up by self-righteously claiming he is "choos[ing] Singapore" when the truth is much simpler.

Come Friday night, Tharman will be declared winner; the only issue being the margin he wins by. I am not saying this because I support Tharman. I don't but I am only being realistic.

Come Friday night, all these little pompous mosquitos and chibais with their inflated and unrealistically high sense of self-importance (including their power to influence the electorate whom they assume have no brains to think for themselves), will have whatever little reputation they have in tatters.

Come Friday night, they will pretend to be magnanimous by publicly calling Singaporeans to come together to "respect" the wishes of the electorate and to support Tharman as President as "the PE is over and Singapore is bigger than any one individual or any one party".

In private, they will suck thumb and rue the day they decided to back the wrong horse which will result in them being shown up as insignificant mosquitoes, and they will curse and swear at Singaporeans for being "fucking gongkias" for electing Tharman.
 
Only stupid idiot will vote for tharman because the pm is already a pap member, so you think voting for tharman he can guard sg reserves more properly together with the pm?
Why the pm cannot guard himself and need another guard? Stupid idiot think about this.
The pm guard the reserves with blanks. Lol...
 
Don't say stupid idiot lah.

If you are son of PAP ministers, you will not vote for Tharman meh ? If you are PAP member, you will not vote for Tharman meh ? You are not idiot. You are just protecting your rice bowl. :rolleyes:

Nobody really fuck care about the mechanics of the system.

For one group, Tharman is their alter ego. If I support Manchester United, I wear their jersey, then in some way I'm telling other people that I support champion, I'm also a champion in some way mah.

For another group, TKL is a weapon that they throw at PAP. They don't admire TKL and his antics (I mean, who would ?), but they think TKL can embarrass PAP, so they vote for TKL.

NKS is a in-between. It's a matter of whether you want to throw eggs or hurl shit at your main enemy. For me, NKS represents eggs only.:biggrin:
Hokay...voting for NKS...
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cat nao!!!
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Hokay...the beedeo that Samsters are waiting for....actually it's heartening to know he has such sweet, intelligent and eloquent granddaughters..


y he keep rubbing his feet together? he nervous on camera?
 
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