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But Tharman's posters are everywhere on the streets to brainwash people to vote for him, it will be an uphill battle for the other candidates to win.
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Tan Kin Lian support thread
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It's not a GE. So, how do you throw the PAP out in a PE???
Please prepare yourself mentally as Lau Chee Hong's loss is guaranteed. The only issue for this sick pervert is whether he can keep his deposit so he can console himself by buying 10kg of tongkat ali, 2kg of KY jelly and a better camera to photograph the legs and backsides of pretty girls to which he can masturbate to.
Tan Cheng Bock and Tan Jee Say can help him stroke his honourable member and smear his sticky gutter all over the photos of these pretty girls.
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A Freak election results....
Who is this fat mosquito? The one who tried to siphon $30,000 of his client's money to pay his own fees and his own creditors? The one who is trying to make use of the Singaporean electorate for his personal grievances and personal problems?
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Straight talk from Walter Woon on latest PE. He seems to drop hints that we should not be voting for Tharman, LOL. Will he tio fixed soon?
All these clowns, including Lee Hsien Yang, are talking cock and singing song. They daren't say outright what they want to say.
In a way, they are being smart so they won't be embarassed and their reputation go down the drain like TCB and TSJ when the horse they backed loses, and they are then shown up to not be as popular, influential or carrying as much weight with the electorate as their massive egos would like them to think they do.
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Aiyah, PAP sure have contingency plans in place in the case of a freak election with Tharman losing to TKL or even to NKS.
PAP will likely change the constitution immediately (technically they can call for parliament vote on the next day, LOL) depending on the severity of the PAP candidate's loss.
If NKS wins, I dun think he is going to give PAP a good time either, not just on reserves spending, but on vetoing public officers holders which is widely perceived to benefit the cronies of the PM or the ruling party for the longest time from Chief Justice to the recent AG who is past retirement age and former lawyer of the PM, LOL.
And like what former AG Walter Woon recently revealed about the historical purpose of Elected Presidency said that if a president is unable to obtain more than 50% vote, he effectively does not have the mandate of the people like what happened in PE 2011.
So die die PAP will likely want to ensure that Tharman gets more than 50% vote to shut out the opposition to make them lose all hope of milking any political mileage from the presidency.
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Probably the next Attorney-General if TKL is elected.
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Siao lang stirring shit again...LOL:
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He is trying to be the devil's advocate............................... or is it the advocate's devil?
Siao lang stirring shit again...LOL:
Truly this is a 暗箭难防 a hidden arrow hard to avoid...
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NKS made a good point to counter the Snake Charmer...:
https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...y_Today-Evening-Brief_newsletter_29082023_tdy
SINGAPORE — Presidential candidate Ng Kok Song on Tuesday (Aug 29) hit back at rival Tharman Shanmugaratnam over the hot topic of independence, saying that Mr Tharman might as well say no Singaporean is independent since all are "beholden to the Government" given that its policies affect everyone.
Mr Ng, 75, also repeated his pledge to divest himself of his founding stake in wealth fund Avanda Investment Management, which reportedly had US$10 billion (S$14.6 billion) of assets under management as of February 2022, in order to ensure his independence, if he is elected President.
The day before, Mr Tharman sought to refute claims that as a former senior minister and member of the ruling People's Action Party (PAP), he is not sticking to the spirit of the Constitution, which precludes political party members from running to be President.
Mr Tharman quit politics and his PAP membership ahead of his tilt to become Singapore's head of state.
During a forum on CNA on Monday, Mr Tharman had argued that it was “extremely simplistic” to judge whether a candidate is independent or not based on whether he has been a member of a political party.
Speaking to the media on Tuesday morning during a visit to Marine Terrace estate, Mr Ng, a former top executive at sovereign wealth fund GIC, reiterated his argument that it is time for Singapore to “take the President out of politics” and that he is the only non-partisan candidate in the race.
"It’s not easy to find people who (are) competent, who (are) trustworthy and who (are) non-partisan," he said.
"Because I’m competent, I will know what questions to ask. I will know how to be vigilant and I am non-partisan. I don’t owe any political party any favours. So I’ll be able to discharge my responsibilities without fear or favour."
In a separate statement issued on Tuesday, Mr Ng responded: “First, Mr Tharman’s remark about the fund management company is clearly about me, and I would like to respond to that.”
Mr Ng said his pledge to sell his Avanda stake was a “worthwhile financial sacrifice”, to ensure that the office of the President remains independent and impartial.
On Tuesday, Mr Ng said that “by comparing those with past political affiliations to anyone who is dependent on the Government in some way, I am afraid Mr Tharman is taking the point too far in arguing his case”.
“He might as well say all Singaporeans are beholden to the Government because all of us are impacted by government policies in one way or another. There is a big difference between being a senior government leader and the rest of us.”
Mr Ng also touched on two other key points in his statement: The President’s affiliation to a political party, and political cynicism and discourse among Singaporeans.
“For our elected presidency to be effective as a check and balance to Government, the elected President must derive his or her mandate directly from the people,” said Mr Ng, "This is clearly stated in our Constitution – the President must not be a member of any political party."
He added that if the elected president were to take its mandate from or in opposition to political parties, then it would be a waste of time and resources to have a Presidential Election and a General Election separately, if they were both going to represent the latter.
Mr Ng referenced that this might be the reason why Singaporeans’ perception of how the ruling party controls all national institutions and key appointment holders may have left most cynical of local politics.
“Singaporeans feel PAP wants to have the final say in everything, and no matter what they say, PAP will decide and tell us what is best for us,” Mr Ng said.
“Our political discourse has now become pro-PAP and anti-PAP. The anti-PAP voices are getting more vocal. The pro-PAP camp is digging in. It is unhealthy and divisive.”
He added that Singaporeans must instead be “united”, and that he has spoken out against opposition figures “coalescing around Mr Tan Kin Lian” for the same reason.
“That is polluting the institution of our elected presidency,” Mr Ng said.
Still, Mr Ng stressed that he was not disputing Mr Tharman being a good minister but rather his comments that the elected presidency should be “about individuals”.
Mr Ng said that the Presidential Election ultimately “goes beyond the individual”, and should instead be about a system of governance that Singapore needs to safeguard its future.
The elected presidency is the check and balance on the Government, against profligacy or corruption, added Mr Ng.
“As Mr Tharman himself pointed out, the PAP has had its say on all our past elected Presidents. The time has come for us to take a step forward to reform the elected presidency.”
“Let us keep our elected presidency free from the influences and agendas of political parties so that the elected President can be effective and faithful in discharging our constitutional duties.”
Mr Ng is a co-founder of Avanda, along with two other men associated with GIC. The Business Times reported in February last year that Avanda's assets under management had more than doubled to US$10 billion since Mr Ng co-founded the firm in 2015, soon after leaving GIC.
For a person to divest himself of an asset usually means to sell the asset, but there are other possibilities that place the asset beyond the person's ownership and yet do not involve its sale.
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https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...y_Today-Evening-Brief_newsletter_29082023_tdy
PE 2023: Tharman taking his point on political affiliations and dependence on Govt 'too far', says Ng Kok Song
- Presidential candidate Ng Kok Song hit back at rival Tharman Shanmugaratnam over the thorny topic of independence
- He said Mr Tharman might as well say that no Singaporean is independent since all are "beholden to the Government" in that its policies affect everyone
- Mr Ng also repeated his pledge to sell his founding stake in wealth fund Avanda Investment Management in order to ensure his independence, if he is elected
SINGAPORE — Presidential candidate Ng Kok Song on Tuesday (Aug 29) hit back at rival Tharman Shanmugaratnam over the hot topic of independence, saying that Mr Tharman might as well say no Singaporean is independent since all are "beholden to the Government" given that its policies affect everyone.
Mr Ng, 75, also repeated his pledge to divest himself of his founding stake in wealth fund Avanda Investment Management, which reportedly had US$10 billion (S$14.6 billion) of assets under management as of February 2022, in order to ensure his independence, if he is elected President.
The day before, Mr Tharman sought to refute claims that as a former senior minister and member of the ruling People's Action Party (PAP), he is not sticking to the spirit of the Constitution, which precludes political party members from running to be President.
Mr Tharman quit politics and his PAP membership ahead of his tilt to become Singapore's head of state.
During a forum on CNA on Monday, Mr Tharman had argued that it was “extremely simplistic” to judge whether a candidate is independent or not based on whether he has been a member of a political party.
Speaking to the media on Tuesday morning during a visit to Marine Terrace estate, Mr Ng, a former top executive at sovereign wealth fund GIC, reiterated his argument that it is time for Singapore to “take the President out of politics” and that he is the only non-partisan candidate in the race.
"It’s not easy to find people who (are) competent, who (are) trustworthy and who (are) non-partisan," he said.
"Because I’m competent, I will know what questions to ask. I will know how to be vigilant and I am non-partisan. I don’t owe any political party any favours. So I’ll be able to discharge my responsibilities without fear or favour."
In a separate statement issued on Tuesday, Mr Ng responded: “First, Mr Tharman’s remark about the fund management company is clearly about me, and I would like to respond to that.”
Mr Ng said his pledge to sell his Avanda stake was a “worthwhile financial sacrifice”, to ensure that the office of the President remains independent and impartial.
On Tuesday, Mr Ng said that “by comparing those with past political affiliations to anyone who is dependent on the Government in some way, I am afraid Mr Tharman is taking the point too far in arguing his case”.
“He might as well say all Singaporeans are beholden to the Government because all of us are impacted by government policies in one way or another. There is a big difference between being a senior government leader and the rest of us.”
Mr Ng also touched on two other key points in his statement: The President’s affiliation to a political party, and political cynicism and discourse among Singaporeans.
“For our elected presidency to be effective as a check and balance to Government, the elected President must derive his or her mandate directly from the people,” said Mr Ng, "This is clearly stated in our Constitution – the President must not be a member of any political party."
He added that if the elected president were to take its mandate from or in opposition to political parties, then it would be a waste of time and resources to have a Presidential Election and a General Election separately, if they were both going to represent the latter.
Mr Ng referenced that this might be the reason why Singaporeans’ perception of how the ruling party controls all national institutions and key appointment holders may have left most cynical of local politics.
“Singaporeans feel PAP wants to have the final say in everything, and no matter what they say, PAP will decide and tell us what is best for us,” Mr Ng said.
“Our political discourse has now become pro-PAP and anti-PAP. The anti-PAP voices are getting more vocal. The pro-PAP camp is digging in. It is unhealthy and divisive.”
He added that Singaporeans must instead be “united”, and that he has spoken out against opposition figures “coalescing around Mr Tan Kin Lian” for the same reason.
“That is polluting the institution of our elected presidency,” Mr Ng said.
Still, Mr Ng stressed that he was not disputing Mr Tharman being a good minister but rather his comments that the elected presidency should be “about individuals”.
Mr Ng said that the Presidential Election ultimately “goes beyond the individual”, and should instead be about a system of governance that Singapore needs to safeguard its future.
The elected presidency is the check and balance on the Government, against profligacy or corruption, added Mr Ng.
“As Mr Tharman himself pointed out, the PAP has had its say on all our past elected Presidents. The time has come for us to take a step forward to reform the elected presidency.”
“Let us keep our elected presidency free from the influences and agendas of political parties so that the elected President can be effective and faithful in discharging our constitutional duties.”
Mr Ng is a co-founder of Avanda, along with two other men associated with GIC. The Business Times reported in February last year that Avanda's assets under management had more than doubled to US$10 billion since Mr Ng co-founded the firm in 2015, soon after leaving GIC.
For a person to divest himself of an asset usually means to sell the asset, but there are other possibilities that place the asset beyond the person's ownership and yet do not involve its sale.
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I do not condone this man's action. Looks like TCB & Opposition party's support for TKL is bringing out all these siao langs of the society with an axe to grind against the Gov, LOL.
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Already told you bunch of Oppo Extremists to get a hold of yourself. See a doctor to cure your mental illness before going out and embarrassing yourself.
Probably the next Attorney-General if TKL is elected.
Wow! I better grovel for forgiveness then.
I am very sorry for calling you a fat mosquito, Mr Lim Tean SIR!
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Lee Hsien Yang? What has he done for Singapore? Only acting like a pest and shouting from overseas. His father would have been ashamed of him.
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