Smoking

[Kid278]

Wahahah "Thank You for smoking" ! That is one great movie all smokers should watch. I especially love the opening scene, "Do you think the big tobacco company wants their customer to die!? Funny thing about the show is, the main character is never shown smoking. In fact, I don't think anyone was shown smoking in the show. Just implied.

Man, I wish I can put this poster up at the smoking area here.

That will never happen, mate. Just hope they stop banning here and there, stop putting up posters that says no smoking. Smokers are healthy people, we are not disease carriers.

What goes around comes around, not smoking does not necesary make them healtier and will live longer so spare us that little liberty we are entitled to.

 

[jw5]

may i know the source of the report? looks like bullshit to me. Kid278 is more or less correct. There is craving intially, but pratically no _physical_ withdrawal symptoms at all. To compare smoking to heroin is a joke really.

Once ive made up my mind quitting is not difficult at all. Dont have the wrong impression that smokers smoke because they are addicted and cant get out.

Some are, but many smoke out of choice and enjoyment.

Do respect other's freedom to smoke. I dont drink, but i wouldnt call a drinker a moron.

I wouldn't call drinkers or smokers morons.

Let's take a drinker. He has drink after drink at the bar. He does this every night, he is essentially an alcoholic.
But as long as he doesn't throw up on you or make you pay his tab, he doesn't bother you in any way.

Now let's take a smoker, and this I encounter everyday. You are walking along the road, happen to walk behind someone who is smoking. He decides at the moment you are just behind him to take out his cigarette from his mouth and hold it with the smoke blowing towards you. You are immediately engulfed by cigarette smoke.

What I'm saying is this: While you can ask us to respect your right to smoke, can you also respect our right not to be engulfed by your cigarette smoke?

 

[Kid278]

I wouldn't call drinkers or smokers morons.

Let's take a drinker. He has drink after drink at the bar. He does this every night, he is essentially an alcoholic.
But as long as he doesn't throw up on you or make you pay his tab, he doesn't bother you in any way.

Now let's take a smoker, and this I encounter everyday. You are walking along the road, happen to walk behind someone who is smoking. He decides at the moment you are just behind him to take out his cigarette from his mouth and hold it with the smoke blowing towards you. You are immediately engulfed by cigarette smoke.

What I'm saying is this: While you can ask us to respect your right to smoke, can you also respect our right not to be engulfed by your cigarette smoke?

Smoking being a habit, a smoker will just light up and puff away when they feel like it. Unless otherwise no smoker deliberately blows smokes at passers by, this much I believe I can assure you.

You have every right not to engulfed by cigarette smokes, hold your breath or move away from the smoke, simple as that. Respect begets respect, it's a free world and the air polluted or not belongs to all living things.

Just because you dont smoke, dont nitpick and you will be a happier man, learn to live with others that are different.

 

[jw5]

Smoking being a habit, a smoker will just light up and puff away when they feel like it. Unless otherwise no smoker deliberately blows smokes at passers by, this much I believe I can assure you.

You have every right not to engulfed by cigarette smokes, hold your breath or move away from the smoke, simple as that. Respect begets respect, it's a free world and the air polluted or not belongs to all living things.

Just because you dont smoke, dont nitpick and you will be a happier man, learn to live with others that are different.

That's the point I have been making since I started the thread.
If I am an excessive drinker, I don't bother you even if I drink myself silly.
But if you smoke wherever and whenever you want, you bother me.
While I respect your right smoke, you should also respect my right to smoke free air, without having to move away from you or to hold my breath.
I believe that 99% of smokers don't deliberately blow smoke in peoples' faces, but my strong opinion is that these same 99% of smokers should also not inadvertently blow smoke in peoples' faces.
If anyone needs to move away when he smokes, it's the smoker.
I'm not trying to nitpick with you or other smokers, but that's my opinion. I don't regard you and other smokers as my enemy or as being stupid or whatever some others may say, but I think that you and other smokers should be more considerate.

 

[Baimi]

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[Baimi]

While i am having dinner or coffee with my smoker friends,
and if the smoke seemed to blow into my direction, they would
change seat with me, smoker friends should be considerate.

 

[devilblue]

While i am having dinner or coffee with my smoker friends,
and if the smoke seemed to blow into my direction, they would
change seat with me, smoker friends should be considerate.

When I was a smoker that time. I did exactly what your smoker-friends did. Thinking that the smoke in this way will be "slimmer" or "diminished" for the non-smokers to "inhaled". However, after quitting my 22-year old 15-20 sticks a day habit, one year ago, my sense of smell especially - smelling smoke came back. I realised this is NOT the case. Cigarette smoke is dispersed in omni-directions and it now smelled so horrible to me!
Such ironic to an ex-smoker like me, my wife always teased me how I actually I "loved" the cigarette/smoke so much before for past 22 years and after quitting hate it like hell. Now, I can truly understand how non-smoker felt when smoker is/are around or vice-versa. Bottom-line, tobacco-cigarette do indeed stink. I had made the mistake choice to pick up & hook on smoking when young during NS times and since quit. Looking back, I would wish that I never had addicted to tobacco at all.:p

 

[devilblue]

When I was a smoker that time. I did exactly what your smoker-friends did. Thinking that the smoke in this way will be "slimmer" or "diminished" for the non-smokers to "inhaled". However, after quitting my 22-year old 15-20 sticks a day habit, one year ago, my sense of smell especially - smelling smoke came back. I realised this is NOT the case. Cigarette smoke is dispersed in omni-directions and it now smelled so horrible to me!
Such ironic to an ex-smoker like me, my wife always teased me how I actually I "loved" the cigarette/smoke so much before for past 22 years and after quitting hate it like hell. Now, I can truly understand how non-smoker felt when smoker is/are around or vice-versa. Bottom-line, tobacco-cigarette do indeed stink. I had made the mistake choice to pick up & hook on smoking when young during NS times and since quit. Looking back, I would wish that I never had addicted to tobacco at all.:p

My lungs would need another 5 years to turn back to pink again (non-smoker lungs quality) as in accordance to lungs expert. After quitting smoking the smoker's lungs need 6 years to revert back to non-smoking state (for people that smoke 20-25 years). For some unknown reasons, my asthma also suddenly disappear.

 

[SneeringTree]

That's the point I have been making since I started the thread.
If I am an excessive drinker, I don't bother you even if I drink myself silly.
But if you smoke wherever and whenever you want, you bother me.
While I respect your right smoke, you should also respect my right to smoke free air, without having to move away from you or to hold my breath.
I believe that 99% of smokers don't deliberately blow smoke in peoples' faces, but my strong opinion is that these same 99% of smokers should also not inadvertently blow smoke in peoples' faces.
If anyone needs to move away when he smokes, it's the smoker.
I'm not trying to nitpick with you or other smokers, but that's my opinion. I don't regard you and other smokers as my enemy or as being stupid or whatever some others may say, but I think that you and other smokers should be more considerate.

Smokers can never understand how foul cigarette smell is and how quickly and wide it spread, or indeed, how long it lingers on.

That's why they always feel that non-smokers are nitpicking or being difficult, etc.

 

[SneeringTree]

When I was a smoker that time. I did exactly what your smoker-friends did. Thinking that the smoke in this way will be "slimmer" or "diminished" for the non-smokers to "inhaled". However, after quitting my 22-year old 15-20 sticks a day habit, one year ago, my sense of smell especially - smelling smoke came back. I realised this is NOT the case. Cigarette smoke is dispersed in omni-directions and it now smelled so horrible to me!
Such ironic to an ex-smoker like me, my wife always teased me how I actually I "loved" the cigarette/smoke so much before for past 22 years and after quitting hate it like hell. Now, I can truly understand how non-smoker felt when smoker is/are around or vice-versa. Bottom-line, tobacco-cigarette do indeed stink. I had made the mistake choice to pick up & hook on smoking when young during NS times and since quit. Looking back, I would wish that I never had addicted to tobacco at all.:p

Thanks for telling your story. I hope this will help smokers understand some of the issues faced by non-smokers. And my heartiest congratulations on successfully kicking the addiction!

 

[Baimi]

Everytime i go and play snooker and after the game
the first thing i did when i reached home was bath and
threw all my clothing into the washing machine.
Imagine from a distance, when i opened the front door,
my sister would ask me, "Eh, you smoke arh?"
Not only i inhaled 2nd hand smoke but the smoke also
cause a lot of irritation to my eyes, my eyes felt painful
and i had to soak it with water.

 

[devilblue]

Thanks for telling your story. I hope this will help smokers understand some of the issues faced by non-smokers. And my heartiest congratulations on successfully kicking the addiction!

Oh..I just want to share with smokers that it is such a wonderful thing to be an ex-smoker. Days of "hiding"/"hunting" for smoking-areas were over for me whenever I go places, meetings, shoppings, tourings, churches, temples, mosque, etc & especially in air-planes...Quitting cigarette is such easy when using e-cigarette...

Quote from Richard Burton (ex-husband of Elizabeth Taylor who died from Lungs cancer in 1984 due to smoking) -
"Whatever you do, just don't smoke!"

 

[devilblue]

Thanks for telling your story. I hope this will help smokers understand some of the issues faced by non-smokers. And my heartiest congratulations on successfully kicking the addiction!

Thanks for your great audience! If you look to my earlier posts in this thread, I had mentioned before smoking previously masked-up my nose' smoke-smelling & taste sensitivity (both are related). Once I quit, my lungs are gradually rejuvenated and my sense of smell & taste shoot to G&G expert level (Gourmet & Gastronomical). I remembered coughing brownish gross tar-like phlegm for couple of days when I stopped smoking tobacco-cigarette for 1 month during my lungs rejuvenation process.

 

[Kid278]

That's the point I have been making since I started the thread.
If I am an excessive drinker, I don't bother you even if I drink myself silly.
But if you smoke wherever and whenever you want, you bother me.
While I respect your right smoke, you should also respect my right to smoke free air, without having to move away from you or to hold my breath.
I believe that 99% of smokers don't deliberately blow smoke in peoples' faces, but my strong opinion is that these same 99% of smokers should also not inadvertently blow smoke in peoples' faces.
If anyone needs to move away when he smokes, it's the smoker.
I'm not trying to nitpick with you or other smokers, but that's my opinion. I don't regard you and other smokers as my enemy or as being stupid or whatever some others may say, but I think that you and other smokers should be more considerate.

If consideration is anything to go by, it should go both ways. Are you being considerate demanding that smokers move away and why not you instead, you dont like the smoke.

For the record, singgi land had the most legislature that ban most places (some of which is ridiculous ) from smokers.

Isnt that enough of pushing by non smokers. Dont forget smokers are citizens and we too had rights. Smokers are paying more taxes than anyone else without such a habit, dont forget that.

 

[SneeringTree]

I remembered coughing brownish gross tar-like phlegm for couple of days when I stopped smoking tobacco-cigarette for 1 month during my lungs rejuvenation process.

Wow! That's really scary!

 

[Bike_Tyson]

Is this thread about smoking or is it about human behaviour?

I thought this smoking debate has been argued over and over and over and the same type of replies over and over and over and over again. By some of the same fellas somemore. Since 1999 when Sam's forum till the makeover now, the same fellas are talking about the same subject in the same manner as it is known to generate large volume of posts. Seems to me looking for a fight?

Now, if I tell you this is a damn irritating thread, will you guys stop posting?

 

[SneeringTree]

Is this thread about smoking or is it about human behaviour?

I thought this smoking debate has been argued over and over and over and the same type of replies over and over and over and over again. By some of the same fellas somemore. Since 1999 when Sam's forum till the makeover now, the same fellas are talking about the same subject in the same manner as it is known to generate large volume of posts. Seems to me looking for a fight?

Now, if I tell you this is a damn irritating thread, will you guys stop posting?

Stop reading!

 

[Bike_Tyson]

That's a really typical stupid reply and you knew I'm pointing my finger at you. As what've previously mentioned, stop trying to be a saint here.

If you are a smoker and some stranger tell you it's irritating, you gonna tell him to stop breathing and go somewhere else, like how you are told me to stop reading?

It's about human behaviour, not smoking and you have just demostrated how "noble" (I'm being sacarstic) you are!

 

[SneeringTree]

That's a really typical stupid reply and you knew I'm pointing my finger at you. As what've previously mentioned, stop trying to be a saint here.

If you are a smoker and some stranger tell you it's irritating, you gonna tell him to stop breathing and go somewhere else, like how you are told me to stop reading?

It's about human behaviour, not smoking and you have just demostrated how "noble" (I'm being sacarstic) you are!

I don't really care if you read this thread or not. I am offering a solution since you are so worked up over this thread.

But I do care if someone's smoke is bothering me.

Actually, you are quite incoherent in your post, maybe you should smoke less.

 

[Bike_Tyson]

So, from the way I post you must ASSUME I'm a smoker? That speak volume for your intelligence. As I've repeated many times, It's not about smoking, but human behaviour. Now you are being cornered and switched to a defensive mode and that made you "incoherent" (using this term first does not exonerate you from being one).

You have already mentioned you do not care whether anybody read this thread or not. Similarly smokers out there would not bothered whether you smell their smoke or not.

And you have demonstrated your selfishness by saying: "But I do care if someone's smoke is bothering me".

So, essentially, you only care about yourself. OK, not surprisingly with that, just that you should expect others to also care about themselves and NOT you!