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Rolex Submariner 116610LN - Full Review ONE whole HOUR!

tobelightlight

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Dunno why, the thick bezel really turn off for me.
 

Leongsam

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If I get a Grand Seiko shall I go with a Hi-Beat or the hybrid Spring Drive movement? Accuracy is OK in both but would like info on servicing, durability etc.
 

blackmondy

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If I get a Grand Seiko shall I go with a Hi-Beat or the hybrid Spring Drive movement? Accuracy is OK in both but would like info on servicing, durability etc.
If you don't like big, thick watches, then the Springdrive isn't for you.
 

blackmondy

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Perhaps I'll try the Titanium Hi-Beat
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Hi-beat means faster wear and tear and shorter running time. Your money is better spent elsewhere. I had a Seiko diver with a super-accurate 4r15 movement and made a tidy profit from it after keeping it for 10 years.
As someone who has been collecting mech watches from Tag Heuer, Breitling, Fortis and Zodiac from the 90s, I have long since given up this expensive hobby and move into DIY-ing my own watches. You save more money and learn more in the process. A cheap Japanese movement like the Miyota 9015 is just as accurate and reliable as the ubiquitous ETA 2824 movement. The latter's price have risen significantly due to tight control from Swatch group.
Don't forget the price of servicing a high-beat movement could have easily gotten you a new watch. I don't think any watch technician could CLA that movement.
 
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Froggy

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I’ve given up on Swiss watches particularly Rolex years ago. As a screw salesman Rolex also doesn’t match my salesman status. So past few years been wearing Seiko watches.

6 months ago while in Japan pampered myself with a Godzilla my last Seiko purchase

Video I made while unboxing in hotel room
 

Leongsam

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Hi-beat means faster wear and tear and shorter running time. Your money is better spent elsewhere. I had a Seiko diver with a super-accurate 4r15 movement and made a tidy profit from it after keeping it for 10 years.
As someone who has been collecting mech watches from Tag Heuer, Breitling, Fortis and Zodiac from the 90s, I have long since given up this expensive hobby and move into DIY-ing my own watches. You save more money and learn more in the process. A cheap Japanese movement like the Miyota 9015 is just as accurate and reliable as the ubiquitous ETA 2824 movement. The latter's price have risen significantly due to tight control from Swatch group.
Don't forget the price of servicing a high-beat movement could have easily gotten you a new watch. I don't think any watch technician could CLA that movement.

My last Rolex service cost me NZD3800. Previous servicing was around $600 to $900. While the watch itself has appreciated 10x over 39 years the amount spent on servicing has pretty much wiped out most of the profit. You only make good money if you leave it in the original box with receipt etc all intact.
 

blackmondy

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My last Rolex service cost me NZD3800. Previous servicing was around $600 to $900. While the watch itself has appreciated 10x over 39 years the amount spent on servicing has pretty much wiped out most of the profit. You only make good money if you leave it in the original box with receipt etc all intact.
By then lubricants would have completely dried out , affecting its accuracy.
I've come to the conclusion a mechanical watch is simply more trouble than it's worth. Not to mention the weight on your wrist as compared to a quartz watch.
 

Leongsam

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By then lubricants would have completely dried out , affecting its accuracy.
I've come to the conclusion a mechanical watch is simply more trouble than it's worth. Not to mention the weight on your wrist as compared to a quartz watch.

Nobody actually needs any sort of watch mechanical or quartz nowadays. They are objects of desire and nothing more. $500 gets you an apple watch that can save your life. What else can give you same value for money?
 
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