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Re: Ask Drifter Of His Own Experience About Karma

You can't even argue logically, you wanna invite me to a DEBATE ? Pleez lah ! :rolleyes:

Oh, most of the people in the west are rational and intelligent people. If I can convert them, why should I waste time talking to idiotic atheists here. :eek: They are more open minded than some of you here. :confused:

You been inf . Come to religious folder if u are not happy .
 
I did what. At first you asked me to prove more and more ppl take up religion. I then said yes more ppl taking up islam for example then you change things around claiming that does not mean god exists? Are you blind or dishonest? So i did read your posts what.

I already explained what. Anyway you wanted to start the argument with GMS in this forum rather than asking him go to religious folder. I checked back you argued with him on page 1 and it's page 4 here.

Why you change your standards with every post ah?

#68 you ask me don't bs with me more and more ppl take up religion (show prove)

I said ok more ppl take up islam. The religion for eg is growing not declining

Later in post #72 you said more ppl taking up religion does not mean god exists when that wasn't even my question in the first place. :rolleyes: I was also asking you if god don't exist why do more ppl take up a religion. Is that an offensive question?

I use up my zap ... As I say come to religious folder . I own u one zap from this thread . Tomorrow will return u ..
 
Theism Is Winning

At first you asked me to prove more and more ppl take up religion. I then said yes more ppl taking up islam for example then you change things around claiming that does not mean god exists? Are you blind or dishonest?

#68 you ask me don't bs with me more and more ppl take up religion (show prove)

I said ok more ppl take up islam. The religion for eg is growing not declining


Yes, overall the world is INCREASING in size for theism. Atheism is a small group plus only happens in DEVELOPED world. Yaya papaya mah. :rolleyes::*:

Developed countries do not grow when their population number is declining PLUS atheism is losing science and mathematics trump cards, some will be scared and defect to God instead. Science is not a good news for them, atheists. Smart people like Flew and Dawkin ran roads. Only dummies protect it in vain. More things are revealing to the benefits of theism.

Keep talking about talking snakes, unicorns, flying spaghetti monster and santa claus. They will keep losing atheists day by day. I rather go out of SBF to gain more believers. Local ones very slow, not just technologies and fashions.
 
I use up my zap ... As I say come to religious folder . I own u one zap from this thread . Tomorrow will return u ..

I was still replying to that post #72 of yours la. While replying to it you suddenly write another post #73 so fast. Want to zap just say you want to zap la.
 
I was still replying to that post #72 of yours la. While replying to it you suddenly write another post #73 so fast. Want to zap just say you want to zap la.

Now u say I just want to zap .. If I wanted to zap u , long time ago I already zap u don't have to wait until now .
 
Now u say I just want to zap .. If I wanted to zap u , long time ago I already zap u don't have to wait until now .

i am referring to you using my post 77 as an excuse to zap me since on post 73 you say you will zap ppl but post 77 was still responding to your post 72. Hopefully you understand what i mean. If you want to zap then admit it la don't have to act like somehow i broke the rules.
 
i am referring to you using my post 77 as an excuse to zap me since on post 73 you say you will zap ppl but post 77 was still responding to your post 72. Hopefully you understand what i mean. If you want to zap then admit it la don't have to act like somehow i broke the rules.

If I wanted to find excuse to Zap You there's many ways to do it .. And I can even zap u without leaving my nick ... I wonder if u have brain ..
 
If I wanted to find excuse to Zap You there's many ways to do it .. And I can even zap u without leaving my nick ... I wonder if u have brain ..

I wonder if you even have a brain to understand my explaination which is so simple. You are trying to find an excuse to zap me instead of being such a hypocrite just say you want to zap me rather than finding an excuse.

Everyone can zap without leaving a nick la. You mean only now then you know?
 
i am referring to you using my post 77 as an excuse to zap me since on post 73 you say you will zap ppl but post 77 was still responding to your post 72. Hopefully you understand what i mean. If you want to zap then admit it la don't have to act like somehow i broke the rules.

If Limpeh wanted to find excuse to Zap You there's many ways to do it .. And I can even zap u without leaving my nick ... I wonder if u have brain ..
 
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Hey guys, wish Ramseth well for me. I used to enjoy reading his posts, especially the one he tried to fight someone at Geylang coffee shop. Loved his cops and dogs stories. Hope everything is good for him.
 
If Limpeh wanted to find excuse to Zap You there's many ways to do it .. And I can even zap u without leaving my nick ... I wonder if u have brain ..

Spam same reply to me and edited spammed post somemore. Nothing more to say. ;)
 
There are always people who scolded others "religious bigots" or "religious fanatics" but somehow, I didn't know there are such "atheist bigots" or "atheist fanatics" around! :)

Karma can be a neutral concept, just like gravity. You can be a atheist, Buddhist, Christian or Muslims or others, believing very differently but you cannot say gravity doesn't exist. Gravity is a concept that can be quite an abstract concept in the ancient world. Well, try explaining gravity as the attraction force between two objects... but in reality, we cannot "prove it" using earthly experiment. The fundamental question is, why would there be "attraction force", the invisible force, when there is mass? It started with a hypothesis and "proven" with theories.

Simple thing like gravity, is not an easy concept to be proven. It is only on hindsight, we would take that for granted that the attraction force between two masses exist.

Karma, started from the simplest form, action and reaction, extended to worldly happenings. The concept of Karma cannot be completed without after life, reincarnation or rebirth.

Atheists can believe in Karma without believing in any religion. Why? It is pretty simple because in many cases, it can be "proven" with earthly happenings. For eg, if you hit a person, most likely he will hit you back. That's karma. From then on, if nothing else happens, you two will become unfriendly, if not enemies. That's karmic relationship.

The only difficulty lies in the extension of Karmic bonding to after lives. Atheists may or may not believe in that after life. Atheists remain atheists because they do not believe in any possibilities of divine interventions. Being atheists only means you don't believe in the existence of any God or Divine beings. It doesn't prevent you from believing Karma or gravity.

People who have gone into the extremes of even denouncing simple concept of Karma or Action and Reaction, due to "semantic" labels of "what is religious or non-religious", are most probably going nuts on anti-religion.

I have been an atheist before, walked the atheist path before. Been there, through it all. What the logical mind cannot explain now, doesn't really mean anything at all, definitely not about "lies" or illogical. Before human beings can understand gravity or the Earth is round and not the centre of universe, people doesn't find it "logical" to see Earth as round because they lack the information to understand it. It is only on hindsight that Atheists start to claim that it was religious influence that say Earth is flat and the centre of universe. However, they must ask themselves, how many of them, if present at that moment, could prove logically that Earth is round and not centre of universe?

When people chose to believe something that cannot be explained logically, it becomes a leap of faith. That is why religion is about belief. But for Atheists to denounce belief, that is utter presumptuous that these beliefs are false because they can't prove it either, just like when they can't prove Earth is round and not centre of universe back in the ancient world.

Some beliefs may be wrong but some may be right as well. Nobody, at this moment, really have full information to determine which is wrong and which is right, or all is wrong. For atheist like Drifter to declare that the universe doesn't have divine Gods or Karma, I am sorry to say that yours is also a "belief" that couldn't be proven as well.

Goh Meng Seng
 
What is even worse is that ppl try to find an excuse to zap you rather than just simply admitting hey you pissed me off i cannot debate with you i'm going to zap you so as to somehow potray that he's a reasonable person when he's not. What's even worse keeps on telling me i can zap you if i wanted to you know, but yet doesn't do it. Why doesn't he do it? Cos that would show he's unreasonable what.

It's just like the pap's system of legalized corruption vs countries that are openly corrupt. Why does the govt in here try to give reasons as to why they deserve higher pay for example rather than just admitting they have the power to do so and there's nothing you can do about it? Why is it in places like the US for example if the govt wants to jail someone for a long period of time they need to find some crime to make this person guilty of instead of just simply abducting the person and throwing him in jail? There are some countries that do it but they are ruled by dictators like some african or middle countries for example. This is because that would prove that the govt is corrupt. Simple enough reason. That is why they need to find reasons as to why they deserve higher pay or try to frame this person for a crime rather than just simply abducting that person for no reason. Similarly it also applies here. Finding an excuse to zap someone instead of just admitting he wants to zap you because you pissed him off trying to potray that he's a reasonable person. Such hypocritical behavior exposed.
 
hello mr goh,

don't disgrace yourself, who say the concept of gravity cannot be proven experimentally easily.

regards,

a xia lan kia
 
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I mean, at that moment when Newton tried to "experiment" with gravity, he could only take stones to throw down from the tower. However, how can you prove that, at that time, that it was the masses that created that attraction forces between masses that created that thing we call "gravity"? You bring two marbles and expect them to attract each other?

Experimenting the phenomenon is totally different from explaining the ROOT cause of gravity. You can write down all the characteristics of this "mysterious force" of gravity but could you, as a lay man back then, really understand or explain that gravity is caused by the attraction force due to the masses?

It is just like we could only explain simple Karma, action and reaction. But cannot explain karma beyond our life time.

You are looking at concepts like gravity with hindsight. Everybody knows things fall from the top to bottom but never know why or what causes that until Newton came along.

Goh Meng Seng



hello mr goh,

don't disgrace yourself, who say the concept of gravity cannot be proven experimentally

regards,

a xia lan kia
 
I mean, at that moment when Newton tried to "experiment" with gravity, he could only take stones to throw down from the tower. However, how can you prove that, at that time, that it was the masses that created that attraction forces between masses that created that thing we call "gravity"? You bring two marbles and expect them to attract each other?

Experimenting the phenomenon is totally different from explaining the ROOT cause of gravity. You can write down all the characteristics of this "mysterious force" of gravity but could you, as a lay man back then, really understand or explain that gravity is caused by the attraction force due to the masses?

It is just like we could only explain simple Karma, action and reaction. But cannot explain karma beyond our life time.

You are looking at concepts like gravity with hindsight. Everybody knows things fall from the top to bottom but never know why or what causes that until Newton came along.

Goh Meng Seng

i say again

dun disgrace yourself

u really want me to malu you?
 
Please try. :)

Goh Meng Seng

the theory of gravity is long proven and experimentally which explains the path of mercury. mass affect bend spacetime around it, this is why WE OBSERVE BENDING OF LIGHT near blackholes.


If your understanding of physics and current science sucks, stay away from it. what newton experiment, u think throw apple and see it fall that kind of experiment? fuck you understand. what age already. still really think current understanding of gravity is based on action at a distance? if your understanding is only at A level, pls dun embarrass yourself
 
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