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Want to copycat my war toys? Hahahaha! Pay attention to ultra flat and low trajectory / orbit / hard time trying to use radar to detect / track the HGV warheads. Do your have what it takes?

https://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2019-10-04/doc-iicezzrr0058365.shtml
我军东风17导弹采用助推滑翔弹道 最快可达10倍音速

我军东风17导弹采用助推滑翔弹道 最快可达10倍音速



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本期川陀太空仅从助推-滑翔弹道上解读这个载具的基本性能。从弹道抛物面上看,助推-滑翔弹道需要有一个助推段,因此我们看到东风17有两个部分构成,第一个助推段,第二个是滑翔飞行器,前端长得像飞机的载具就是滑翔分析器。
高超音速技术给人一种非常陌生的感觉,从定义上看,其速度要达到每秒5倍音速以上,该技术从1970年代开始发展,主要制约因素就是材料、发动机等。但理论上发展却很早,在1940年代就有人提出了利用再入大气层的方式延长火箭的射程,1948年,年轻的钱学森提出了助推-滑翔弹道,也是目前高超音速领域最流行的理论基础,可以将载具的射程提升至少一倍。本次大阅兵上出现的东风17载具就采用了高超音速飞行技术,川陀太空指出,前端类似小飞机模样的载具能够在大气层中做无动力滑翔飞行,这也是我国在高超音速领域有长足进步的缩影。
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图注:高超音速飞行技术是个全新的领域,其飞行器为有翼结构。
公开展示气动外形也说明我国在高超音速载具方面有着相当的自信,目前能够开发相关技术的只有美俄,目前美国在高超音速载具方面停滞不前,俄罗斯已经有较为成熟的高超音速飞行器。
助推-滑翔弹道技术已被我国掌握
从科学技术角度分析东风17的载具,入手无非是高超音速飞行器相关技术要点,除了材料、发动机、气动之外,本期川陀太空仅从助推-滑翔弹道上解读这个载具的基本性能。从弹道抛物面上看,助推-滑翔弹道需要有一个助推段,因此我们看到东风17有两个部分构成,第一个助推段,第二个是滑翔飞行器,前端长得像飞机的载具就是滑翔分析器。
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图注:DF17载具
助推段比较简单,就是第一级火箭,工作高度至数十公里,然后依靠惯性继续上升并冲出大气层,这段时间载具做无动力自由飞行,也是进入轨道了。接着再入大气层依靠气动升力进行滑翔,这也是我们看到载具有机翼结构的原因,需要在大气层内进行滑翔飞行,速度至上在10倍音速以上。此时的弹道有两种模式,第一种是高度逐渐降低的滑翔弹道,第二种是跳跃弹道,高度有起伏。大气层就像是一个稠密的介质,这个原理和我们小时候打水上漂一样,最好选择扁平、且有弧度的碎瓦砾,小瓦片是最理想的,能够在水上漂很远。
东风17的载具有机翼结构,就能够在大气层进行“水上漂”,能够飞行很远的距离,至少上千公里。因此出现在阅兵上的东风17及其载具则是风靡全球的高超音速技术,已悄然到我们身边,展示在我们面前,这是我国航天科技长足进步、逐渐成熟、自信的表现。
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图注:HGV为高超音速飞行器弹道剖面,全程高度都很低。
黑障问题是关键

高超音速飞行器在临近空间进行飞行,高度至少在20公里以上,虽然这种飞行方式很独特、优雅、逼格很高,但大气层也是非常稠密的,意味着摩擦非常剧烈,飞行器周围温度会急剧上升。这时候空气分子还会发生电离,形成厚度不均的等离子体鞘将飞行器给包裹住。于是问题来了,无线电波是无法穿透等离子体鞘,这就是我们所说的黑障。对于神舟飞船、航天飞机等再入航天器,黑障过程不超过10分钟,短一些4分钟就结束了,但是对于高超音速飞行器,黑障会持续很久。
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图注:高超音速飞行器需要克服黑障、耐高温材料等问题
因此我们看到东风17的载具设计得修长,头部前缘为尖形,这样能够让天线周围的等离子体鞘变薄,那么通信就可以建立。虽然理论上是这样,但仍然需要科研人员进行长时间的测试。
综上,我们在阅兵中看到了小飞机模样的载具,其实就是我国最新、最先进的高超音速飞行器,它的出现对于建立我国防安全有非常重大的意义。(作者署名:川陀太空)


Our military Dongfeng 17 missile uses boosting gliding trajectory up to 10 times the speed of sound
Our military Dongfeng 17 missile uses boosting gliding trajectory up to 10 times the speed of sound
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In this issue, Kawaku Space only interprets the basic performance of this vehicle from the boost-gliding trajectory. From the ballistic paraboloid, the boost-gliding trajectory needs to have a boosting segment, so we see that the Dongfeng 17 has two parts, the first booster segment, the second one is a gliding aircraft, and the front end looks like an airplane. The vehicle is the gliding analyzer.

Hypersonic technology gives people a very strange feeling. By definition, its speed should be more than 5 times the speed of sound per second. The technology has been developed since the 1970s. The main constraints are materials and engines. However, in theory, the development was very early. In the 1940s, some people proposed to use the way of re-entry into the atmosphere to extend the range of the rocket. In 1948, the young Qian Xuesen proposed the boost-gliding trajectory, which is also the most popular theoretical basis in the current hypersonic field. Can increase the range of the vehicle by at least one time. The Dongfeng 17 vehicle that appeared on the military parade used supersonic flight technology. Chuanto Space pointed out that the vehicle with a front-end resemblance of a small aircraft can make unpowered gliding in the atmosphere. This is also the case in China's hypersonic range. The epitome of great progress.

Legend: Hypersonic flight technology is a new field, and its aircraft is winged.

The public display of aerodynamic shape also shows that China has considerable confidence in hypersonic vehicles. At present, only the United States and Russia can develop related technologies. At present, the United States is stagnating in hypersonic vehicles. Russia already has more mature hypersonic vehicles.

Boost-gliding trajectory technology has been mastered in China

From the perspective of science and technology, the analysis of the Dongfeng 17 vehicle is nothing more than the technical point of the hypersonic vehicle. In addition to materials, engines and aerodynamics, the current Chuandao space only interprets the basic performance of the vehicle from the boost-gliding trajectory. . From the ballistic paraboloid, the boost-gliding trajectory needs to have a boosting segment, so we see that the Dongfeng 17 has two parts, the first booster segment, the second one is a gliding aircraft, and the front end looks like an airplane. The vehicle is the gliding analyzer.

Legend: DF17 Vehicle

The booster segment is relatively simple. It is the first-stage rocket, working at a height of tens of kilometers, and then continues to rise and rush out of the atmosphere by inertia. During this time, the vehicle is flying without power and is also in orbit. Then re-entry into the atmosphere depends on aerodynamic lift for gliding. This is why we see the structure of the wing, and we need to fly in the atmosphere, the speed is above 10 times the speed of sound. There are two modes of ballistics at this time. The first is a glide trajectory with a gradually decreasing height, and the second is a jumping trajectory with a height undulation. The atmosphere is like a dense medium. This principle is the same as when we were a child. It is best to choose flat and curved rubble. Small tiles are ideal and can drift far away on the water.

The Dongfeng 17 has a wing structure that allows it to “water float” in the atmosphere and can fly very far, at least a thousand kilometers. Therefore, the Dongfeng 17 and its vehicles that appeared on the military parade were the supersonic technology that swept the world. They have quietly come to us and displayed in front of us. This is a manifestation of China's aerospace science and technology progress, maturity and self-confidence.

Legend: HGV is a high-sonic aircraft ballistic profile with a low overall height.

Black obstacle problem is the key

The hypersonic aircraft is flying in the adjacent space, at least 20 kilometers in height. Although this flight mode is unique, elegant and high, the atmosphere is very dense, which means the friction is very intense and the temperature around the aircraft will rise sharply. . At this time, the air molecules will also ionize, forming a plasma sheath with uneven thickness to wrap the aircraft. So the problem came, the radio waves could not penetrate the plasma sheath, which is what we call the blackout. For re-entry spacecraft such as Shenzhou spacecraft and space shuttle, the blackout process will not exceed 10 minutes, and the short 4 minutes will end, but for hypersonic vehicles, the blackout will last for a long time.

Legend: Hypersonic vehicles need to overcome problems such as blackouts and high temperature materials.

Therefore, we can see that the Dongfeng 17 vehicle is designed to be slender and the leading edge of the head is pointed, so that the plasma sheath around the antenna can be thinned, and communication can be established. Although this is theoretically the case, researchers are still required to conduct long-term testing.

In summary, we saw a small aircraft-like vehicle in the military parade. It is actually the newest and most advanced hypersonic vehicle in China. Its appearance is of great significance for establishing my national defense security. (Author's signature: Kawaka Space)
 

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Why is it china made missiles and space rockets have silly names. Tbe nenemy will not take these missiles seriously with names like dong feng.
 

war is best form of peace

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Why is it china made missiles and space rockets have silly names. Tbe nenemy will not take these missiles seriously with names like dong feng.


Weapons are not to frighten people, weapons are to KILL and Eliminate People. Not for NDP, for War and Carnage. Use them, and enemies will perish and vanish, cannot be found any more. NEVER SEEK PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE, seek a GLOBAL REDUCTION OF HUMAN POPULATION LEVEL, eliminate the consumers and global consumption level of resources. Eliminate human to preserve resources. Weapon is the perfect tool.
 

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A lot of wayang but the chinks can't fight for nuts they're even worse than the SAF! :roflmao:
 

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卫星多得他妈的数不清啦!


http://www.xinhuanet.com/tech/2019-10/05/c_1125072311.htm
我国成功发射高分十号卫星
2019-10-05 06:17:28 来源: 新华网

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新华社太原10月5日电(李国利、朱霄雄)10月5日2时51分,我国在太原卫星发射中心用长征四号丙运载火箭,成功将高分十号卫星发射升空,卫星顺利进入预定轨道,任务获得圆满成功。
(科技)(1)我国成功发射高分十号卫星
10月5日2时51分,我国在太原卫星发射中心用长征四号丙运载火箭,成功将高分十号卫星发射升空,卫星顺利进入预定轨道,任务获得圆满成功。 新华社发(刘桥明 摄)
高分十号卫星是高分辨率对地观测系统国家科技重大专项安排的微波遥感卫星,地面像元分辨率最高可达亚米级,主要用于国土普查、城市规划、土地确权、路网设计、农作物估产和防灾减灾等领域,可为“一带一路”等国家重大战略实施和国防现代化建设提供信息保障。
(科技)(2)我国成功发射高分十号卫星
10月5日2时51分,我国在太原卫星发射中心用长征四号丙运载火箭,成功将高分十号卫星发射升空,卫星顺利进入预定轨道,任务获得圆满成功。 新华社发(刘桥明 摄)
长征四号丙运载火箭和高分十号卫星,均由中国航天科技集团有限公司所属上海航天技术研究院研制。
这次任务是长征系列运载火箭的第314次航天飞行。


China successfully launched the high score ten satellite
2019-10-05 06:17:28 Source: Xinhuanet
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Xinhua News Agency, Taiyuan, October 5 (Li Guoli, Zhu Xiongxiong) At 2:51 on October 5, China used the Long March 4 C carrier rocket at the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center to successfully launch the high-scoring satellite No. 10 and the satellite entered smoothly. The track was scheduled and the mission was a complete success.

(Technology) (1) China successfully launched the high score 10 satellite

At 2:51 on October 5, China used the Long March 4 C carrier rocket at the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center to successfully launch the high-scoring No. 10 satellite. The satellite successfully entered the scheduled orbit and the mission was a complete success. Xinhua News Agency (photo by Liu Qiaoming)

The high-altitude satellite No. 10 is a microwave remote sensing satellite with a large-scale national science and technology special arrangement for high-resolution Earth observation system. The resolution of ground pixels is up to the sub-meter level, which is mainly used for national census, urban planning, land confirmation, and road network. In the fields of design, crop yield estimation and disaster prevention and mitigation, it can provide information guarantee for major national strategy implementation and national defense modernization construction such as “One Belt, One Road”.

(Technology) (2) China successfully launched the high score 10 satellite

At 2:51 on October 5, China used the Long March 4 C carrier rocket at the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center to successfully launch the high-scoring No. 10 satellite. The satellite successfully entered the scheduled orbit and the mission was a complete success. Xinhua News Agency (photo by Liu Qiaoming)

The Long March 4C launch vehicle and the high score 10 satellite were developed by the Shanghai Aerospace Technology Research Institute of China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation.

This mission is the 314th space flight of the Long March series of launch vehicles.
 

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See HOW CLEAR?

Every Individual Tanks & Combat Vehicles and EVERY FUCKING MISSILES can be seen!

Even Fucking warplanes (with tail smoke color bands trailing in 2nd photo - look carefully - smoke trail in left half of photo)


No war worthy targets can escape detection! Simply tracked LIVE and can be destroyed by PLA!

For live video click link below, it captured live moving helicopters in the air.



http://www.xinhuanet.com/politics/2019-10/01/c_1125067562.htm
太空见证历史!“最高机位”瞰阅兵!
2019-10-01 23:59:27 来源: 新华社
10月1日上午
庆祝中华人民共和国成立70周年大会
在天安门广场隆重举行
盛大的阅兵式和群众游行
给我们留下了深刻的印象
让人意犹未尽
看了一遍又一遍回放
这里还有一种视角
你没见过!
新华社联合多家单位
调用多颗国产卫星俯瞰阅兵
从“最高机位”
发回这三张
珍贵的长安街全画幅卫星阅兵图
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10月1日,“高景一号”拍摄的北京长安街全画幅卫星阅兵图
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10月1日,北京上空,“高景一号”拍摄的划出美丽彩带的机群
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10月1日,“高分一号”拍摄的北京长安街群众游行即将开始的画面
还有这条珍贵的阅兵视频
↓↓↓


10月1日,“吉林一号”拍摄的北京长安街阅兵视频
盛世中华,如你所愿
我们运用自主研发的卫星技术
记录这一必将载入史册的磅礴时刻
记录我们每个中国人
记忆中的共鸣瞬间
这是亿万人民持续奋斗
汇集而成的强大力量
看到这幅雄伟的画卷
我们的眼眶会在不经意间湿润
70年
我们不断前行
创造了崭新的历史


70年
岁月绘就山河盛景
时代书写伟大篇章


70年
我们深知
幸福是奋斗出来的


总策划:刘思扬
出品:汪金福、陈凯星、周亮
卫星应用总指导:徐文
策划:贺大为、钟昊熹
监制:于卫亚、魏骅
导演:李梦婷、丁新珂
统筹:宋强、程婧、文晶
编辑:李永锡
卫星数据:
中国资源卫星应用中心
中国四维测绘技术有限公司
长光卫星技术有限公司
鸣谢:
北京爱太空科技发展有限公司
珠海欧比特宇航科技股份有限公司​
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A lot of wayang but the chinks can't fight for nuts they're even worse than the SAF! :roflmao:


PLA do nothing, sit at training center, hit WRONG BUTTONS, and USA will be ALL GONE within 30 And, all turned into plasma and Mushroom Clouds. Their Training Crnters are inside world deepest and most enormous UNDERGROUND JUKE PROOF Great Wall Tunnel Systems.

Every hardware bis set precisely and perfectly to BBQ Chow Ang Moh, all that they need is to just push one button! Just one finger!

There won't be any possibility of interception and even early warning is next to impossible, you won't be able to guess which targets they are hitting until mushrooms are up and visible from even moon.

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Satellite Live Video on Tian An Men NDP CN-70,

Try to spot a white helicopter start from 37 seconds into video, it turned down south from right of screen , in other version of same video, I could see roter blades turning, but in Youtube it is not as clear, I think it is due to youtube converted frame rate.

Live satellite video at such clarity is very useful for war command centers.
 

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See so clear when PLA spying themselves??

I put their CCTV clip screenshot next to the actual objects (mostly nukes) like legends on the satellite image - correspondingly. You can recognize which one is which target.



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新浪军事 军事深度
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外媒:美军曾跟踪东风41试射 却至少跟丢了两个弹头
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东风41洲际导弹亮相阅兵式 7张东风41洲际导弹亮相阅兵式
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东风41的服役,代表中国战略反击能力成倍数提高
东风41之所以如此引发他国重视,就因为它是目前解放军火箭军的最终极武器。东风41导弹研发项目以204的代号开始了工程,接下来的10年里,该导弹的固体燃料技术问题得以解决,并完成了高弹道试射,特别是2015年该导弹在一次试验中携带了两枚独立制导的模拟核弹头,进一步彰显了其核反击中坚的地位。
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当年这个特殊的庆功蛋糕就昭示东风41的发射成功
早年间美国某知名防务网站曾声称,相对于美国或俄罗斯,中国的核反击技术和规模依旧处于较小和较原始的级别,甚至无法突破美国的战区导弹防御系统对第一岛链内目标进行攻击。但2013年12月13日,随着东风41导弹进行的一次试射,美国军事情报机构顿时在评价方面来了个一百八十度转弯。当时某中国知名军事杂志的微博刊登了一张特殊的庆功蛋糕照片,这个蛋糕上可以清晰可见一台奶油制成的导弹发射车。不久后,美国战略评估中心立刻公开宣称根据弹道轨迹计算,此次中国发射的东风41洲际导弹是一种射程12000公里以上,能携带十个分弹头的固体燃料导弹,性能已经超过此前世界最强的美国和平卫士MX导弹,而且不同于全重近百吨、只能以发射井方式发射的MX导弹,东风41能够顺利地通过公路和铁路进行机动发射。毫无疑问,美国对中国战略反击能力的评估也有夸大其词的一面,但也的确反应东风41给西方的震撼。
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东风31A还无法满足覆盖假想敌全境的要求
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东风41的射程是最让西方惊慌的性能
而改进后的东风41则足以让美国耗费多年心血建设的导弹防御体系将面临有心无力的境界。2018年初,中国以一枚长征11号火箭发射实现同时送六颗卫星上天的任务,而当时使用的发射车和东风41的发射车高度类似,这就说明东风41导弹完全可以自由地在发射车上顺利机动并随时发射。尽管相对于液体燃料,固体燃料的价格高得多,但其带来的便利却不容忽视,除了生存性差别外,液体燃料导弹如果加注燃料后部立刻发射,还必须及时清空燃料并清洗导弹内部,这是为防止导弹内部线路被腐蚀。而固体燃料导弹则在生产时就配备好,无需进行麻烦的清理,还能长期保存。所以,如今美俄等国多数洲际导弹也都以固体燃料为主。由于东风41不但能通过发射井发射,而且还能不受到区域和地形限制,通过发射车机动部署,这样就算假想敌通过先发制人的方式对中国先进攻,也很难一次性消灭东风41的有生主力。
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长征11号火箭的发射车和东风41导弹的发射车酷似
此外,从2018年初长征11号火箭同时将六枚卫星送入太空轨道来看,东风41携带的弹头数量已经远超过东风31系列。非但如此,东风41采用多弹头独立重返大气层载具技术,实现运载火箭和分弹头自适应变轨,从而让每个分弹头都有特定的弹道,能够通过调整轨迹攻击不同目标,进而让对方的反导体系错过多数分弹头。再加上电脑控制的惯性制导系统,使东风41的圆周误差被控制在200米以内。从现在已知情况来看,东风41进入轨道后就会自动散开20多个子目标,其中不但有真正的子弹头,还有相当数量的假弹头,这样对手的反导系统就务必要花费相当的时间进行判断。而这些假弹头还有两种,包括20公斤的轻质量和重质量,轻质量假弹头会一直伴随弹头周围,而重质量假弹头则会模拟真弹头的各种机动。目前,美国的标准3系列拦截系统雷达只能识别最多15个目标,面对东风41时还要借助人工判断,但这无疑让东风41的分弹头击中目标的概率骤增。有报道称,在一次东风41发射后,美军曾进行跟踪监控,却发现其中至少两个弹头从雷达中彻底消失。(作者署名:迷彩派)
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东风41最多时可能携带10个分弹头


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