NSP Strong at West Singapore

[annexa]

Lose means lose. Lose 0.1% also lose!

 

[yellow_people]

I also a person like you look forward by Theory like my MBA and Doctorate research but voting result always the fact of Singapore is we have Big Group Elite follow by Minority Poor 30% Chinese speaking, Poor 2% Malay that never vote PAP and Poor 1% Indian that never vote PAP

I have no idea where you are culling these statistics from. 30% of Chinese speaking out of the Chinese population - if you say so, perhaps you might be right as that figure looks fairly reasonable.

The poor 2% Malay and 1% Indian.. where is that figure coming from unless? Are you suggesting that the 98% Malay and 99% Indian are from the elite class??? And hence PAP supporters???.

I don't know which parallel universe you are living in but generally ethnic Singaporean Indians and Malays are worse off then their Chinese counterparts.

 

[yellow_people]

The 2% Malay and 1% Indian always blame 30% Chinese but the winner still the 60% PAP. (Voters about 2,500,000- 100%)

You had better get your facts straight. You seem bent on framing the Malays and Indians.

 

[Perspective]

Fivestars,

By consistently representing news on NSP and with no denial from NSP of your role in presenting their news, you become an ambassador of NSP to whoever reads your post.

Would this be fair assessment, Kakowi? Firstly when I read this Fivestars, he is clearly not of sound mind. No one knows who he is. Secondly, there is Goh Meng Seng of NSP here and seems no one takes his more sane good points as NSP's assets.

I count even more nicknames (at least 5 in this forum) that speak for nothing except the SDP and the only topic they talk about is how bad the WP is. But when asked, they seem entitled to shrug off the affiliation. Two of Fivestar's antagonizers in this thread happen to fall in this category but has the cheek to link others to a party.

In fact when you use that ruler, Wayang Party is an arm of the SDP.

 

[yellow_people]

After 4 pages of posting we get a questionable disclaimer that Fivestars is not of sound mind. How convenient.

Everyone's free to comment but the usual party fanbase like their respective party NSP and WP have decided to bury their heads in the sand instead.

Did GMS provide a response?

"14 candidates in total with 13 Chinese and 1 Malay. Zero Indians.

Both NSP and WP project a very Chinese orientated image. The need to compare status and titles of individual members with their PAP counterparts is a very Chinese trait.

It would appear NSP and WP have yet to develop any strategy to reach out to the Malay and Indian voters whose votes are needed to take any GRC. Both parties need to line up good Malay and Indian candidates with good grassroot connections.

Neither party appear to be making any progress in this direction."

 

[fivestars]

Fivestars,

By consistently representing news on NSP and with no denial from NSP of your role in presenting their news, you become an ambassador of NSP to whoever reads your post.

NSP CEC rep of Congress (Senior Party members). Congress rep of party members and party volunteer.

NSP exit due to voters, volunteer and party members.

If our NSP CEC make a wrong move. NSP will not exit.

Thank you for your supports.

 

[fivestars]

I have no idea where you are culling these statistics from. 30% of Chinese speaking out of the Chinese population - if you say so, perhaps you might be right as that figure looks fairly reasonable.

The poor 2% Malay and 1% Indian.. where is that figure coming from unless? Are you suggesting that the 98% Malay and 99% Indian are from the elite class??? And hence PAP supporters???.

I don't know which parallel universe you are living in but generally ethnic Singaporean Indians and Malays are worse off then their Chinese counterparts.

60% Elite Singapore
30% Chinese Speaking Opposition
2% Malay Speaking Opposition
1% Indian Speaking Opposition
0.5% Other group Opposition
6.5% Malay and Indian Speaking who can vote PAP and Oppostion

Total 100%

Elite mean Singapore not base on racial but base on English speaking holding high post in Goverment organisation, GLC, GIC, MNC, Listed company, SME and so on. Their pay is $1,800.00 and above. They feel speaking Malay, Tamil and Mandrin look stupic and wasted country resources and PAP is the best.

 

[fivestars]

You had better get your facts straight. You seem bent on framing the Malays and Indians.

Talk sweet and telling lie to opposition supports will not benefit opposition.

Talk into the point and wake-up opposition supporter to make sure Malay Opposition and Indian Opposition work together with Chinese Opposition is the best way. Never always blame Chinese Opposition is a Communist or Red Party or Red Star and prefer vote PAP (The White Party).

Find way to get support from Elite group, is only way to win in General Election. Example people like Mr Tan Kin Lian.

 

[fivestars]

After 4 pages of posting we get a questionable disclaimer that Fivestars is not of sound mind. How convenient.

Everyone's free to comment but the usual party fanbase like their respective party NSP and WP have decided to bury their heads in the sand instead.

Did GMS provide a response?

"14 candidates in total with 13 Chinese and 1 Malay. Zero Indians.

Both NSP and WP project a very Chinese orientated image. The need to compare status and titles of individual members with their PAP counterparts is a very Chinese trait.

It would appear NSP and WP have yet to develop any strategy to reach out to the Malay and Indian voters whose votes are needed to take any GRC. Both parties need to line up good Malay and Indian candidates with good grassroot connections.

Neither party appear to be making any progress in this direction."

Only PAP sound like multiracial or In Malaysia DAP or Gerakan and Keadilan.

PKMS under 2001 leaders sound to had Chinese Base SPP, WP, NSP to help Malay to fight for unity.

PKMS under 2001 leaders sound to had Indian and English Elite SDP, RP to help Malay to fight for unity.

Why you never look for PKMS to find for unity?

Why you blame Chinese Blue Opposition WP and NSP for nothing?

Why you blame Chinese White Opposition SPP for nothing?

Can MCA contest in Singapore?

 

[kakowi]

Would this be fair assessment, Kakowi? Firstly when I read this Fivestars, he is clearly not of sound mind. No one knows who he is. Secondly, there is Goh Meng Seng of NSP here and seems no one takes his more sane good points as NSP's assets.

I count even more nicknames (at least 5 in this forum) that speak for nothing except the SDP and the only topic they talk about is how bad the WP is. But when asked, they seem entitled to shrug off the affiliation. Two of Fivestar's antagonizers in this thread happen to fall in this category but has the cheek to link others to a party.

In fact when you use that ruler, Wayang Party is an arm of the SDP.

Somehow for those who purport to speak in defense of the SDP, I do not get the impression that they are from the SDP.

But for Fivestars, I got the impression that he is someone from NSP.

Obviously for you, Perspective, you do not.

Hence it is not a matter of fairness here. It is a matter of impressions.

And in the case of impressions, if I am the only who do so, then it does not matter. Apparently yellow_people do too.



Incidentally it is the presence and silence of GMS here that gave creditability to Fivestars. Clearly Fivestars try to speak on behalf of NSP.

If GMS has spoken up and said that is not the stance of NSP, then it would have clarified a lot.

If you noticed, there are times when Ramseth and Lockeliberal clarified WP's stance to forumers here.



I hope that I had explained the ruler.

 

[kakowi]

...Did GMS provide a response?

..."

I just came across your post.

His silence is quite loud to me too.

 

[cleareyes]

This PAP ruling party policy in Singapore learning from BN. I do not understand.

The prove of Chinese down by PAP and form BS than to WP and NSP mean Chinese still want social awareness and support them.

After PKMS down by PAP. Malay never support PKMS. Why? I do not know.

After MIC down by PAP. Indian never form Indian new party. Why? I do not know.

You have to understand that Singapore's political composition does not allow single-racial parties. This is not a rule as there is no law stating that political parties cannot be organised along racial line, but more of a case where PAP's racial education had in some way been very successful in ensuring that single-race politics is not accepted.

Both NSP and WP are not "chinese" political parties but are multi-racial parties with pro-dominated by the larger Chinese population. Just like in Malaysia, parties such as gerakan, DAP and keadilan are not single-racial parties and that is why you could find members of other races within the party as well.

 

[cleareyes]

Now look at NSP and WP. Both Chinese oriented parties asking for Malay and Indian support? You've got some nerve.

Both NSP and WP are not "chinese oriented" political parties. It just so happened that Singapore has the Chinese as majority and that most in these parties in majority are Chinese, neither parties advocate Chinse domination in Singapore.

Do remember that the founder of WP, the late david marshall and JBJ were not chinese and despite LTK been chinese-educated, he does not appear to support or adavocate Chinese as the main source of support.

I do agree with you that it appears that neither WP nor NSP seem to be at least appearing to do much to attract minority talents to come forward. Perhaps this issue had bene addressed before, however, if both race felt that they are having a hard time to come forward, there is little others can do.

 

[cleareyes]

I also a person like you look forward by Theory like my MBA and Doctorate research but voting result always the fact of Singapore is we have Big Group Elite follow by Minority Poor 30% Chinese speaking, Poor 2% Malay that never vote PAP and Poor 1% Indian that never vote PAP

MBA?

The way you are writing, and i m ready to discount the horrible grammar and expression, is telling me you cant even argue in a GP Paper at A levels.

 

[cleareyes]

You had better get your facts straight. You seem bent on framing the Malays and Indians.

Have anyone notice that there seem to be a few attempts these few weeks to drive a wedge between the majority Chinese against the minority races?

 

[cleareyes]

Reserved seats for minorities in Parliament is worth a look into. Many countries do this.

To make Singapore a truly multi-racial democracy, such resevation of seats will backfire just as your support for propotion representation.

propotion representation might simpified national politics by been "fair", but it would complicate internal party politics in terms of who gets to be MP and who dont.

 

[fivestars]

You have to understand that Singapore's political composition does not allow single-racial parties. This is not a rule as there is no law stating that political parties cannot be organised along racial line, but more of a case where PAP's racial education had in some way been very successful in ensuring that single-race politics is not accepted.

Both NSP and WP are not "chinese" political parties but are multi-racial parties with pro-dominated by the larger Chinese population. Just like in Malaysia, parties such as gerakan, DAP and keadilan are not single-racial parties and that is why you could find members of other races within the party as well.

Thank you since 1965, Both NSP and WP are not "chinese" political parties but are multi-racial parties with pro-dominated by the larger Chinese population. Like Keadilan

 

[fivestars]

MBA?

The way you are writing, and i m ready to discount the horrible grammar and expression, is telling me you cant even argue in a GP Paper at A levels.

I am Ah Beng and Ah Seng with BBA, MBA and DBA. I will never put English number One and English is not a cup of my tea. I am not PAP voter. I love Mandrin and Malay.

 

[fivestars]

Both NSP and WP are not "chinese oriented" political parties. It just so happened that Singapore has the Chinese as majority and that most in these parties in majority are Chinese, neither parties advocate Chinse domination in Singapore.

Do remember that the founder of WP, the late david marshall and JBJ were not chinese and despite LTK been chinese-educated, he does not appear to support or adavocate Chinese as the main source of support.

I do agree with you that it appears that neither WP nor NSP seem to be at least appearing to do much to attract minority talents to come forward. Perhaps this issue had bene addressed before, however, if both race felt that they are having a hard time to come forward, there is little others can do.

Any English Elite, Indian and Malay Talents can be nominated to NSP Secretary General Ken Sun and 2009 GE committee board will review the profile before NSP CEC approved. Chairman Sebastian will sign for the contesting allocation GRCs

 

[fivestars]

ATTN:

Secretary General

Mr Ken Sun

National Solidarity Party

397 Jalan Besar
#02-01A
Singapore 209007

Contact : (65)8382 3961

Fax: (65)6396 8645

Email: [email protected]

2009 GE organising committee

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