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cleareyes

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I am Ah Beng and Ah Seng with BBA, MBA and DBA. I will never put English number One and English is not a cup of my tea. I am not PAP voter. I love Mandrin and Malay.

1stly, what the hell is a DBA? Dead Brain Actually?

2ndly, to claim you love Mandrain and Malay and yet dislike English is very extreme. In fact, that raise the question into what you are trying to do and where you stand.

3rdly, You now claim you have an BBA? and then an MBA and a DBA????? and your English is worse than PSLE? The most Chinese-educated ones I have come across can write better than you.

Lastly, Singapore is a multi-racial, multi-cultural country and to achieve racial harmony, English is hence promoted as the medium that allow all races to communicate with each other with no prejudice.

If you dont like it, deal with it.
 

cleareyes

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Any English Elite, Indian and Malay Talents can be nominated to NSP Secretary General Ken Sun and 2009 GE committee board will review the profile before NSP CEC approved. Chairman Sebastian will sign for the contesting allocation GRCs

I do not know who you are, but before the crediblity of NSP had been ripped to pieces by numbskulls like you, I hope someone from NSP would come fore and make an actual declaration.
 

Perspective

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Somehow for those who purport to speak in defense of the SDP, I do not get the impression that they are from the SDP.

But for Fivestars, I got the impression that he is someone from NSP.

Obviously for you, Perspective, you do not.

Hence it is not a matter of fairness here. It is a matter of impressions.

And in the case of impressions, if I am the only who do so, then it does not matter. Apparently yellow_people do too.



Incidentally it is the presence and silence of GMS here that gave creditability to Fivestars. Clearly Fivestars try to speak on behalf of NSP.

If GMS has spoken up and said that is not the stance of NSP, then it would have clarified a lot.

If you noticed, there are times when Ramseth and Lockeliberal clarified WP's stance to forumers here.



I hope that I had explained the ruler.

Impressions are not rulers, Kakowi.

What I mean is to take the party's official stand as the party's official stand found in their websites.

And I feel it is, of all nicks, using a bad example in someone who would be first to stand up and disclaim linkage if Fivestars had put up only SDP material and added his nonsense. That itself shows, contrary to what you say, that the nick has nothing to do with the party. In fact, I became WP+NSP and that says alot about dual standards. The rest are identified, so I can't say much.
 

fivestars

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1stly, what the hell is a DBA? Dead Brain Actually?

2ndly, to claim you love Mandrain and Malay and yet dislike English is very extreme. In fact, that raise the question into what you are trying to do and where you stand.

3rdly, You now claim you have an BBA? and then an MBA and a DBA????? and your English is worse than PSLE? The most Chinese-educated ones I have come across can write better than you.

Lastly, Singapore is a multi-racial, multi-cultural country and to achieve racial harmony, English is hence promoted as the medium that allow all races to communicate with each other with no prejudice.

If you dont like it, deal with it.

I married Chinese and Malay Wife is my preference. You married Ang Mo Wife is your preference.

Speaking Good English for teaching PSLE is your culture. Speaking Mandrin and Malay as Doctor can save life still a Doctor. Nothing to ashame for.

China speaking Mandrin among Chinsese still multi-racial. Malaysia speaking Malay among Malaysian still multi-racial. Why must Singaporean speaking Japanese, British, USA or not local mean multi-riacial and not prejudice.
 

fivestars

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I do not know who you are, but before the crediblity of NSP had been ripped to pieces by numbskulls like you, I hope someone from NSP would come fore and make an actual declaration.

This is a forum and discussion only. This is not a Party Website, NSP Town Council Website, NSP GOV Dot Com or NSP Forum Website. This is a freedom and democracy forum for every voter and all party supporter. Do not use PAP Assume Politic to despress Singaporean. It is a PAP advocate system. You accept PAP system but I am not and NSP too
 

kakowi

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Impressions are not rulers, Kakowi.

What I mean is to take the party's official stand as the party's official stand found in their websites.

And I feel it is, of all nicks, using a bad example in someone who would be first to stand up and disclaim linkage if Fivestars had put up only SDP material and added his nonsense. That itself shows, contrary to what you say, that the nick has nothing to do with the party. In fact, I became WP+NSP and that says alot about dual standards. The rest are identified, so I can't say much.


Obviously Perspective, you believe your perception of Fivestars is the same as what others should perceive.

Since that is the case, there is nothing else to say.

I hold a different impression.

And as you say, impressions are not rulers. Perhaps if you reflect on your own words, you will understand what i am trying to say. If not, it does not really matter since if my perception is correct, the only party that is hurt is NSP, not you, not me.
 

kakowi

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1stly, what the hell is a DBA? Dead Brain Actually?

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Actually DBA (Doctor of Business Administration) makes more sense than PhD which is a doctorate by research.

The former is via coursework.

Still i am puzzled by this unless his degrees are all from chinese universities or perhaps honorary degrees awarded by certain universities.

Definitely those that require english proficiency is out for him. In the same vein as those that require chinese proficiency is out for me.



Incidentally Char Jig Kar, if you are reading this, this discourse is ample evidence that chinese should remain a second language for chinese in multi-racial singapore as english is the means of primary communication amongst all races.
 

Perspective

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Obviously Perspective, you believe your perception of Fivestars is the same as what others should perceive.

Let it be known that I am not an autocrat and do not impose my views on others. I said nothing to mean the above and this remark is misleading.

My only point is to ask how to determine when one speaks up for NSP he belongs to NSP and when one speaks up for SDP he doesn't belong to SDP. That hasn't been answered.
 

kakowi

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Let it be known that I am not an autocrat and do not impose my views on others. I said nothing to mean the above and this remark is misleading.

My only point is to ask how to determine when one speaks up for NSP he belongs to NSP and when one speaks up for SDP he doesn't belong to SDP. That hasn't been answered.


Read through Fivestars's list of threads.

If you let me know who speaks for SDP and whose threads imply in an official capacity, I am prepared to evaluate to see if my impressions are the same as yours.
 

Perspective

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Read through Fivestars's list of threads.

If you let me know who speaks for SDP and whose threads imply in an official capacity, I am prepared to evaluate to see if my impressions are the same as yours.

No, it is up to you to tell us which post did Fivestars indicate he was speaking for NSP. You made the accusation, it's your onus to prove it.
 

kakowi

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No, it is up to you to tell us which post did Fivestars indicate he was speaking for NSP. You made the accusation, it's your onus to prove it.

Perspective, I had left my level in order to engage you at your level.

Especially as there is a possibility that you are not able to understand the basis of different perspectives.

I am not prepared to continue this conversation further.
 

Perspective

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Perspective, I had left my level in order to engage you at your level.

Especially as there is a possibility that you are not able to understand the basis of different perspectives.

I am not prepared to continue this conversation further.

Perspectives again? Indeed, you need to leave your level.

Often, I ask for evidence and people trepidate. That's fine, am used to it.
 

NissanViP

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I married Chinese and Malay Wife is my preference. You married Ang Mo Wife is your preference.

Speaking Good English for teaching PSLE is your culture. Speaking Mandrin and Malay as Doctor can save life still a Doctor. Nothing to ashame for.

China speaking Mandrin among Chinsese still multi-racial. Malaysia speaking Malay among Malaysian still multi-racial. Why must Singaporean speaking Japanese, British, USA or not local mean multi-riacial and not prejudice.

With all due respect to all multi-races living in Singapore and to singaporeans, we should adopt english as primary communication while other languages should remain as second-language.

We must be proud to show the world about our Singapore multi-races identity, peace and no language barrier and to why english shoud be our primary language.

We should not take other countries as example for what primary language they have adopted.

For those feel that second-language like Mandarin should be the first language, then this place is not suitable for them because racism will continue to take place and will cause unpleasant to other races.

If the argument is about economy challenges with China that we should speak mandarin at all cost, how about India? In near future they (India) will be in the economy race alongside with China, so do we have to learn Tamil too?

Lets give a moment to think about it.
 

fivestars

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With all due respect to all multi-races living in Singapore and to singaporeans, we should adopt english as primary communication while other languages should remain as second-language.

We must be proud to show the world about our Singapore multi-races identity, peace and no language barrier and to why english shoud be our primary language.

We should not take other countries as example for what primary language they have adopted.

For those feel that second-language like Mandarin should be the first language, then this place is not suitable for them because racism will continue to take place and will cause unpleasant to other races.

If the argument is about economy challenges with China that we should speak mandarin at all cost, how about India? In near future they (India) will be in the economy race alongside with China, so do we have to learn Tamil too?

Lets give a moment to think about it.

Thank you

Our Chairman Mr Teo, Advisor Mr Tan and Yang Berhormat or The Honourable Steve Chia want us to participate in forum is to think out from the box and find friends for networking. We are here is not for assume people to listen to us or find problem here.

We understand many people in NSP and WP had been attack by somebody and had been ask for leaving CEC or resign. Same had been ban from Congress and only can be a party member. Due to misconduct in giving idea in forum.

I hope people who like to attack people here do not go to CEC for the action. Pakatan Rakyat can do. Why Singaporean had to resign or ban?
 

cleareyes

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I married Chinese and Malay Wife is my preference. You married Ang Mo Wife is your preference.

Speaking Good English for teaching PSLE is your culture. Speaking Mandrin and Malay as Doctor can save life still a Doctor. Nothing to ashame for.

China speaking Mandrin among Chinsese still multi-racial. Malaysia speaking Malay among Malaysian still multi-racial. Why must Singaporean speaking Japanese, British, USA or not local mean multi-riacial and not prejudice.

Consider your claim of a DBA, your display of logic is very much in question.
 

fivestars

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Consider your claim of a DBA, your display of logic is very much in question.

What I say here is base on General Election result or fact.

I am not promoting Singaporean to prison is to down PAP. Or promoting attacking our leaders and join force with EU or USA to attacking Singapore. I never make NSP and WP 30% Chinese voters become Zero. I understand Chinese Singaporean problem and unhappiness.

What I am telling here is to make sure Malay and Indian fully vote you. Like JBJ who able to gain 40% votes.

Also telling here, make sure half of English speaking Elite vote you. So you can gain 70% votes.

Not all place had 60% Teochew votes like Hougang and Ponggol South.

Out reach Elite, we shall get people like Mr Tan Kin Lian to promote English speaking to vote us. We must find way to make sure new Citizen that not born in Singapore and Post-65 voters to vote us.

In 2009 GE, maybe had some change. New Citizen that not born in Singapore and Post-65 voters will increase to replace our old generation votes.

If you think I not a qualified DBA. You can use you way. DBA is base on the fact of research result not just assume something you think is right.
 
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