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NSP Strong at West Singapore

yellow_people

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The problem is not NSP and WP. Their voter is 30%. If they support SDP, they may lose half suppoters.

Many of us only had one kid. Nobody of Chinese Speaking Voter want their kids went to jail, fine, police station for investigation and so on. English speaking already point Chinese Speaking as watsed Singapore Time, Money and so on. We shall not exit in Singapore and burden Singapore to progress. Only English speaking done a lot good thing.

SDP had to went for English speaking to gain support but not NSP or WP. NSP and WP only the 30% vote. SDP need 30% more from Malay, Indian and English to gain into power.

I don't understand what you are trying to say here. There are 75% Chinese voters your Chinese party is trying to woo yet you bring up Indians and Malays.
 

fivestars

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Sorry that link does not provide the ethnic/racial breakdown as to how the electorate voted. If you want to lay the blame on Indians and Malays that fine. But provide the evidence. Stop lying please. You are a discredit to your pathetic race.

Base on my pass interview. I had interview English Speaking, Malay, Indian and minority Chinese Speaking Chinese Singaporean.

Maybe God or Allah can provide the evidence but not me.

We contest at Pasir Ris Ponggol but PKMS members prefer not to vote SDA. We only win Ponggol South SMC 60% Teo Chew (Chinese) Votes
 

yellow_people

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Base on my pass interview. I had interview English Speaking, Malay, Indian and minority Chinese Speaking Chinese Singaporean.

Maybe God or Allah can provide the evidence but not me.

We contest at Pasir Ris Ponggol but PKMS members prefer not to vote SDA. We only win Ponggol South SMC 60% Teo Chew (Chinese) Votes

You have no evidence yet you are willing to lay the blame on PKMS a long defunct party and Malay and Indian voters and are very sure the 60% Teo Chew voted for you.

All you are proving here is for the sake of their Singaporean identity the Malays and INdian avoid the NSP like the plague.
 

fivestars

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You have no evidence yet you are willing to lay the blame on PKMS a long defunct party and Malay and Indian voters and are very sure the 60% Teo Chew voted for you.

All you are proving here is for the sake of their Singaporean identity the Malays and INdian avoid the NSP like the plague.

This forum, I can not provide you their name. They inform me they do not like one of the contester.

In each election, we can see which block or zone vote you, the SMC results and GRC results.

Mr Chiam had try to make English Speaking, Malay Speaking, India Speaking and Chinese Speaking to come together but the 2001 incident had change everything.

The next person is JBJ, I had fully support him in 2007 to form a new alliance but he pass away.

What can I do?

I am not God or Allah or Opposition Leader that people trust.
 

fivestars

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I don't understand what you are trying to say here. There are 75% Chinese voters your Chinese party is trying to woo yet you bring up Indians and Malays.

Are you Singaporean?

Not all Chinese Speaking English. We can speak English and Malay but we must respect our elderly. Our first languge at home are Mandrin, TeoChew, Hockien, Hakka, Cantonese, Hainam and so on. That MM ban our diarects and weaken our mandrin. Because we make Singapore low class and burden the Singapore progress. They call us Ah Beng, Ah Seng, Ah Hua and Ah Lian.

The 60% English speaking the 35% Chinese and 25% other (Indian Elite, Malay Elite and Eurasian).
 

Sideswipe

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I guess you are asking this question because the opposition parties namely the WP and NSP risk becoming irrelevant in multi racial Singapore.

You question does nothing to address the fact that the minority races are segregated along racial quotas. How do minorities elect their own MPs in such circumstances? What districts do they represent? Or do the Chinese end up owning the mainstream politics of Singapore??

Your ideas are devilish in that they are designed to serve the majority Chinese and reduce to minority issues to a mere irrelevance.

Therefore I certainly prefer the present GRC system and most minorities will feel that way. This way it ensures that minority races are represented in the mainstream of the body politic and not relegated to irrelevance. The onus is on the political party to truly represent Singapore as such.

No thanks! I will not support Chinese parties.

This is not communist China. If you feel such perhaps you should go back to your homeland in China.


Reserved seats for minorities in Parliament is worth a look into. Many countries do this.

thought that our Malays and Indians would prefer to elect their own leaders to represent them in Parliament instead of that farce of a GRC. But I was wrong, your posts have suggested that there are peoples that still thought GRC are for minority races representation and it's the best election system instead of mixed member proportional representation elections system.

GRC allow a lot of PAP MPs ( chineses, malays and Indians ) to enter parliament through walkovers. This is not good for democracy.
 

yellow_people

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Reserved seats for minorities in Parliament is worth a look into. Many countries do this.

thought that our Malays and Indians would prefer to elect their own leaders to represent them in Parliament instead of that farce of a GRC. But I was wrong, your posts have suggested that there are peoples that still thought GRC are for minority races representation and it's the best election system instead of mixed member proportional representation elections system.

GRC allow a lot of PAP MPs ( chineses, malays and Indians ) to enter parliament through walkovers. This is not good for democracy.

Let me get this straight. You are interested in proportionate representation for your own selfish reasons mostly for the Chinese cause. WP and NSP especially are not interested in including the minority races in their mainstream politics. These parties couldn't care less about minority causes and that is plain evident in this thread. You want to turn Singapore into another Communist China.

If you were sincere, you would have answered my questons on the predicament of minority races restricted by racial quota.
 

scroobal

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I am not PAP. I do not understand PAP that most Malay voted.

Firstly I hope you are not suggesting that Malays prefer to vote for the PAP. It is common knowledge that this is not the case for the Malays as well as the Indians. It is also the primary reason why the GRC was created to dilute the opposition votes from the minority. Precint analysis was showing clear trends towards that direction and this mainly is attributed to 2 major factors
- the high profile speak Mandarin Campaign followed by the introduction of the super schools.

Secondly I hope you are not the authorised spokesperson of the SDP.

Thirdly, for a political party, it appears to have the profile of a group of individuals who like to particpate in anything and everything that comes along. Membership, in all kinds of clubs, social, industry and other types of groups. I have seen this in Individuals who are more keen on networking for their business rather than focusing on something that they feel is important.

For political party, don't mention rubbish like -

Kiwanis club, rotract club, alumni association, kiss my ass club unless it brings clear benefit to society as a whole.

The only politicians I see in NSP are Steve Chia and GMS. Even Cheo does not have a profile despite being an ex MP.

I also notice that NSP press releases on any subject such as the budget , addresses everything from creation of the earth to the Chandeliers at Buckingham Palace. Not only is it all over the place for people to follow, but it it will be full of motherhood statements.

Just keep it simple
Just confine it to politics
Just address hot issues that irks Singaporeans
Don't be too smart
Project a strong, aggressive image with a bit of colour.
 

yellow_people

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Are you Singaporean?

Not all Chinese Speaking English. We can speak English and Malay but we must respect our elderly. Our first languge at home are Mandrin, TeoChew, Hockien, Hakka, Cantonese, Hainam and so on. That MM ban our diarects and weaken our mandrin. Because we make Singapore low class and burden the Singapore progress. They call us Ah Beng, Ah Seng, Ah Hua and Ah Lian.

The 60% English speaking the 35% Chinese and 25% other (Indian Elite, Malay Elite and Eurasian).

If the 75% of the population in Singapore are worried about losing their Chinese identity; what about the minority races that are trembling about losing their Singaporean identity from communists such as yourself???

Do we really want to vote for the Nazi Solidarity Party (NSP)???
 

Hakka Tiow

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Just keep it simple
Just confine it to politics
Just address hot issues that irks Singaporeans
Don't be too smart
Project a strong, aggressive image with a bit of colour.


Oppositions keep what you suggested as a mantra, PAP will shit in the pants!
 

yellow_people

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Firstly I hope you are not suggesting that Malays prefer to vote for the PAP. It is common knowledge that this is not the case for the Malays as well as the Indians. It is also the primary reason why the GRC was created to dilute the opposition votes from the minority. Precint analysis was showing clear trends towards that direction and this mainly is attributed to 2 major factors
- the high profile speak Mandarin Campaign followed by the introduction of the super schools.

Along with the GRC, the HDB racial quotas were introduced to neutralize the minority votes. This was clearly evident in the Bedok, Kaki Bukit, Geylang Serai and Eunos. That Aljunied formerly Eunos is always an electoral battleground hotbed is mainly due to these minority voters.

Minorities as a result of the HDB quotas had trouble selling at valuation and many times had to sell their flats at losses of up to 20k to 50k.

And these communist motherfuckers are attempting to frame the minorities as PAP loving.

Secondly I hope you are not the authorised spokesperson of the SDP.

This communist clown Fivestars apparently speaks for the NSP.
 

char_jig_kar

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It is very difficult to find Malay and Indian candidates. It is also very difficult to Malay able to speak proper Malay and Indian can speak proper Tamil and Punjabi. It is easy to get Malay and Indian can speak good English.

Today, most jobless who can not pass English during IR recruitment is Chinese. Opposition sure is Chinese speaking.

Chinese also had English Elite Chinese and Working Class Chinese Speaking Poor Chinese.

We have racial issue here in this society. Look, Lee Kuan Yew, one of the key leader in Singapore, dare to say Spore is not ready to have a Indian Prime Minister in public speech/ interview, if thats not racist, I don't know what is.

The problem is real. So cut the crap, don't argue with yellow chap, just admit we Singapore have a problem. And u as Opposition will see to it that you guys will deal with this racial issue, and speak for the minority, and make sure that those who dare to speak like Lee Kuan Yew did, making racist statement, would pay for it.

And stop pissing off the potential vote. That doesn't make sense.
 

NissanViP

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I read through and through all the posting between the "yellow_people" and "Fivestars forummers.

All I can say is that, the "Fivestars" is losing his credibility in the argument.

Racial issue must resolve by getting the minority closer and make them feel welcome.
They "minority" wants to be treated fairly though they may not expected 100 percents equally. This should be the right approach if to win not just from one race but multiple races.

That is how PAP strategy to win minority voters in Ang Mo Kio, Of course after the election, the minority did not receive fair treatment from PAP but One thing I know, the minority heart get soften whenever PAP "act with 2 faces" get closer and offer somekind of "reward" to them just before the election in order to win.

I guess this time, the minority have learn their lesson (I hope so) how PAP try to win them over every election.
 

fivestars

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Firstly I hope you are not suggesting that Malays prefer to vote for the PAP. It is common knowledge that this is not the case for the Malays as well as the Indians. It is also the primary reason why the GRC was created to dilute the opposition votes from the minority. Precint analysis was showing clear trends towards that direction and this mainly is attributed to 2 major factors
- the high profile speak Mandarin Campaign followed by the introduction of the super schools.

Secondly I hope you are not the authorised spokesperson of the SDP.

Thirdly, for a political party, it appears to have the profile of a group of individuals who like to particpate in anything and everything that comes along. Membership, in all kinds of clubs, social, industry and other types of groups. I have seen this in Individuals who are more keen on networking for their business rather than focusing on something that they feel is important.

For political party, don't mention rubbish like -

Kiwanis club, rotract club, alumni association, kiss my ass club unless it brings clear benefit to society as a whole.

The only politicians I see in NSP are Steve Chia and GMS. Even Cheo does not have a profile despite being an ex MP.

I also notice that NSP press releases on any subject such as the budget , addresses everything from creation of the earth to the Chandeliers at Buckingham Palace. Not only is it all over the place for people to follow, but it it will be full of motherhood statements.

Just keep it simple
Just confine it to politics
Just address hot issues that irks Singaporeans
Don't be too smart
Project a strong, aggressive image with a bit of colour.

I also a person like you look forward by Theory like my MBA and Doctorate research but voting result always the fact of Singapore is we have Big Group Elite follow by Minority Poor 30% Chinese speaking, Poor 2% Malay that never vote PAP and Poor 1% Indian that never vote PAP
 

fivestars

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If the 75% of the population in Singapore are worried about losing their Chinese identity; what about the minority races that are trembling about losing their Singaporean identity from communists such as yourself???

Do we really want to vote for the Nazi Solidarity Party (NSP)???

If we go to HDB schools and Poly maybe we cannot feel it. The poor 30% Chinese is Majority.

If we go for good primary, secondary, A level and University. We can feel many people do not want to be low class Ah Beng Ah seng Ah Lian and Ah Hua. The rich 60% Elite is Majority.

For me is Chinese Identity For the rich, I am Ah Beng or Ah Seng, low class Chinese Speaking Stupic and Idoit. Wasted Singapore Time, Money and so on.
 

fivestars

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I read through and through all the posting between the "yellow_people" and "Fivestars forummers.

All I can say is that, the "Fivestars" is losing his credibility in the argument.

Racial issue must resolve by getting the minority closer and make them feel welcome.
They "minority" wants to be treated fairly though they may not expected 100 percents equally. This should be the right approach if to win not just from one race but multiple races.

That is how PAP strategy to win minority voters in Ang Mo Kio, Of course after the election, the minority did not receive fair treatment from PAP but One thing I know, the minority heart get soften whenever PAP "act with 2 faces" get closer and offer somekind of "reward" to them just before the election in order to win.

I guess this time, the minority have learn their lesson (I hope so) how PAP try to win them over every election.

We need to see the change. What I said is according to the past voting result. Maybe the half PAP elite vote come and vote NSP in this GE. That Thank God.
 

fivestars

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Along with the GRC, the HDB racial quotas were introduced to neutralize the minority votes. This was clearly evident in the Bedok, Kaki Bukit, Geylang Serai and Eunos. That Aljunied formerly Eunos is always an electoral battleground. This communist clown Fivestars apparently speaks for the NSP.

I am not Communist. I am telling you to visit Elite Chinese, Elite Malay, Elite Indian and Eurasian to gain support.

Living with the 30% Chinese, 2% Malay and 1% Indian only can gain 33% high vote.

How to make Elite vote us? Nobody tell me. End up the poor 30% poor Chinese to be blame as Communist Clown. It is unfair.
 

fivestars

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We have racial issue here in this society. Look, Lee Kuan Yew, one of the key leader in Singapore, dare to say Spore is not ready to have a Indian Prime Minister in public speech/ interview, if thats not racist, I don't know what is.

The problem is real. So cut the crap, don't argue with yellow chap, just admit we Singapore have a problem. And u as Opposition will see to it that you guys will deal with this racial issue, and speak for the minority, and make sure that those who dare to speak like Lee Kuan Yew did, making racist statement, would pay for it.

And stop pissing off the potential vote. That doesn't make sense.

The 2% Malay and 1% Indian always blame 30% Chinese but the winner still the 60% PAP. (Voters about 2,500,000- 100%)
 

kakowi

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Fivestars,

By consistently representing news on NSP and with no denial from NSP of your role in presenting their news, you become an ambassador of NSP to whoever reads your post.
 
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