NSP Strong at West Singapore

[Sideswipe]

This is patently false. There are several Malays attending opposition rallies. Having attended rallies from the Eunos GRC days in the 80s I am very aware of the strong Malay support and presence for WP back in those days.

I hope I'm wrong. the lack of malays attending rallies is my observation after attending several opposition rallies.

btw, do you agree with GRC compulsory minority candidate or do you want a reserved electoral roll for Malays/Indians to chose their own MPs?

which is better?

 

[yellow_people]

Most of Malay and Indian Vote PAP. Less Malay and Indian Vote Opposition.

I don't think so. Please explain then why is there a need for the HDB racial quota policy if not to dilute the effectiveness of the minority voters?

Also note the comments on a survey done by Alex Au :

http://www.yawningbread.org/arch_2008/yax-929.htm

The Chinese were noticeably more reluctant to be polled, compared to other races. Most of them waved us away or pretended not to have seen us. (I tried to compensate for this by approaching more Chinese to ask if they'd participate in the survey.) This points to a major difference in attitude between the Chinese and other races with respect to social and civic values, but I won't get into it here.

Minorities English Speaking Oppostion do not had Asian Value.

Is Asian Values = Chinese Values ???

It is very hard to get a Malay or Indian who understand Chinese and asian value. That is why many Chinese defend for Social Welfare and Helping needy die in world war two.

NSP and WP will have to make the effort to reach out to these voters and not the other way around. You make up 75% of the population. This is Singapore not PRC.

 

[fivestars]

Why is help for the downtrodden in Singapore split along racial lines?

The Malays and Indians are heavily marginalized with resources skewed towards the 75% Chinese, even though the Malays and Indians have a higher than proportionate individuals needing assistance.

Take a look at the recruitment for BMT. Those slated for the leadership platoons are mostly the Chinese cause they are better educated with a min of at least a poly or A level. While the Malays make up the sheer numbers for the non-leadership roles (eg: drivers and storeman).

If this does not tell you how lopsided the resources are skewered I don't know what will.

This PAP ruling party policy in Singapore learning from BN. I do not understand.

The prove of Chinese down by PAP and form BS than to WP and NSP mean Chinese still want social awareness and support them.

After PKMS down by PAP. Malay never support PKMS. Why? I do not know.

After MIC down by PAP. Indian never form Indian new party. Why? I do not know.

 

[yellow_people]

btw, do you agree with GRC compulsory minority candidate or do you want a reserved electoral roll for Malays/Indians to chose their own MPs?

which is better?

I guess you are asking this question because the opposition parties namely the WP and NSP risk becoming irrelevant in multi racial Singapore.

You question does nothing to address the fact that the minority races are segregated along racial quotas. How do minorities elect their own MPs in such circumstances? What districts do they represent? Or do the Chinese end up owning the mainstream politics of Singapore??

Your ideas are devilish in that they are designed to serve the majority Chinese and reduce to minority issues to a mere irrelevance.

Therefore I certainly prefer the present GRC system and most minorities will feel that way. This way it ensures that minority races are represented in the mainstream of the body politic and not relegated to irrelevance. The onus is on the political party to truly represent Singapore as such.

No thanks! I will not support Chinese parties.

This is not communist China. If you feel such perhaps you should go back to your homeland in China.

 

[fivestars]

I don't think so. Please explain then why is there a need for the HDB racial quota policy if not to dilute the effectiveness of the minority voters?

Also note the comments on a survey done by Alex Au :

The Chinese were noticeably more reluctant to be polled, compared to other races. Most of them waved us away or pretended not to have seen us. (I tried to compensate for this by approaching more Chinese to ask if they'd participate in the survey.) This points to a major difference in attitude between the Chinese and other races with respect to social and civic values, but I won't get into it here.



It is very difficult for Chinese to have a homeland like Singapore. This is the fact why Chinese Singaporean love Singapore very much. We need a place to stay.

I am not PAP. I do not understand PAP that most Malay voted.

 

[Robert Half]

Sorry to say NSP will win nothing in the coming election

 

[yellow_people]

This PAP ruling party policy in Singapore learning from BN. I do not understand.

The prove of Chinese down by PAP and form BS than to WP and NSP mean Chinese still want social awareness and support them.

After PKMS down by PAP. Malay never support PKMS. Why? I do not know.

After MIC down by PAP. Indian never form Indian new party. Why? I do not know.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. Read slowly and carefully now.

Say you have a Chinese political party. How do you contest a GRC without minority representation?

 

[fivestars]

Is Asian Values = Chinese Values ???



NSP and WP will have to make the effort to reach out to these voters and not the other way around. You make up 75% of the population. This is Singapore not PRC.[/QUOTE]

ROC and PRC Chinese is British game and not Singaporean game.

Asian Value = Buddhist, Hindu, Srivijaya, Majapahit, East Asian

 

[yellow_people]

It is very difficult for Chinese to have a homeland like Singapore. This is the fact why Chinese Singaporean love Singapore very much. We need a place to stay.

I am not PAP. I do not understand PAP that most Malay voted.

Again you are laying the false blame on the Malays. If they are indeed supporting the PAP then it belies the belief that you want to transform Singapore into a Chinese Communist nation. All I suggested is for opposition parties to reach out to the minority races and the reply i get is that its either the Chinese way or the highway.

Malays and Indians love Singapore too.. it is not exclusive the Chinese. The Malays have more so the reason. They are the natives of the land.

 

[fivestars]

Sorry to say NSP will win nothing in the coming election

So far NSP won awarded two time NCMP:

1) BT Timah SMC, NCMP Tan Chee Kian but he rejected

2) Chua Chu Kang SMC, NCMP Steve Chia.


Win nothing since 1987, we still participate in General Election. Not like PKMS and MIC.

 

[fivestars]

I've said this before and I'll say it again. Read slowly and carefully now.

Say you have a Chinese political party. How do you contest a GRC without minority representation?

Not every Malay and Indian do not understand Asian value. Good people still welcome to join. Only Traitor will not welcome to oppositions like WP and NSP

 

[yellow_people]

Be careful now. You might lose the only token Malay candidate you have got.

 

[fivestars]

Again you are laying the false blame on the Malays. If they are indeed supporting the PAP then it belies the belief that you want to transform Singapore into a Chinese Communist nation. All I suggested is for opposition parties to reach out to the minority races and the reply i get is that its either the Chinese way or the highway.

Malays and Indians love Singapore too.. it is not exclusive the Chinese. The Malays have more so the reason. They are the natives of the land.

Chinese start will Blue and Blue want serve the people with respect. Both white and red do not indeed of democracy and blame democracy can be abuse. So they form one party system at ROC and PRC. If Blue went to PRC, PRC said you are white. If Blue went to ROC, ROC said you are red.

That is why blue stay in Southeast Asian and White continue say they are blue. White change the Blue flag to a new flag and new system after world war two.

Most of the blue are come from southern China and the Red are come from northern China. The Blue idea are Nationality, Democracy and Social Necessity. The white had change the Democracy to one party system. In China, Indian and Southeast Asian are minority Chinese.

It is only stupic Chinese Singaporean who Join Opposition, yet capable Malay and Indian will jion PAP. Opposition Chinese lose money for election and gain vote 30% Chinese votes. If Malay and Indian vote us, we will win 40%. How we workhard, the 60% will never vote us.

 

[fivestars]

Be careful now. You might lose the only token Malay candidate you have got.

In Malaysia if Blue MCA go for campagn 60% UMNO 30% MCA&Gerakan and 10% Indian will come to help.

In Malaysia if White Gerakan go for campagn 60% UMNO 30% MCA&Gerakan and 10% Indian will come to help.

In Singapore if Blue WP and NSP go for Election. How many Malay and Indian come to support.

 

[yellow_people]

It is only stupic Chinese Singaporean who Join Opposition, yet capable Malay and Indian will jion PAP. Opposition Chinese lose money for election and gain vote 30% Chinese votes. If Malay and Indian vote us, we will win 40%. How we workhard, the 60% will never vote us.

What are you implying? Are you still blaming the Indians and Malays for your miserable election performances?

What has either NSP or WP done for the Malay and Indian community? Please answer this. Stop talking about red, white and blue like a Chinese snake.

 

[yellow_people]

In Malaysia if Blue MCA go for campagn 60% UMNO 30% MCA&Gerakan and 10% Indian will come to help.

In Malaysia if White Gerakan go for campagn 60% UMNO 30% MCA&Gerakan and 10% Indian will come to help.

In Singapore if Blue WP and NSP go for Election. How many Malay and Indian come to support.

Malaysian politics was about political reform and that was supported regardless of one's race. You have the same thing in Singapore too. Take a look at SDP. Minorities like Jufrie and Seelan are prepared to go to jail for reformist cause.

Now look at NSP and WP. Both Chinese oriented parties asking for Malay and Indian support? You've got some nerve.

Why don't you ask how many Jews willing to support the Nazi party instead.

 

[fivestars]

What are you implying? Are you still blaming the Indians and Malays for your miserable election performances?

What has either NSP or WP done for the Malay and Indian community? Please answer this. Stop talking about red, white and blue like a Chinese snake.

Base on past voting:-

60 % English speaking vote PAP

10% Malay and Indian Singaporean will maybe vote Opposition if we have Chiam See Tong, Low Thia Kiang, JBJ, Francis Seow, Teng Liang Hong, James Gomes, Sylvia Lim and other heavy weight.

5% Chinese Speaking will not vote Dr Chee Soon Juan who Jail, Bankrupcy, Fine and so on

25% Chinese Speaking will vote for NSP, SDP and WP opposition

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Buona Vista (15,850) Abdul Karim B Abdul Sattar
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Low Yong Nguan
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Peter Sung PKMS
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SDP
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PAP 449
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5,037
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8,859 3.13
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35.11
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Bukit Panjang (33,824) Ibrahim Ariff
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Kwek Guan Kwee
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Lee Yiok Seng PKMS
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SDP
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PAP 3,790
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9,864
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18,314 11.86
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30.86
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57.28

 

[yellow_people]

Base on past voting:-

60 % English speaking vote PAP

10% Malay and Indian Singaporean will maybe vote Opposition if we have Chiam See Tong, Low Thia Kiang, JBJ, Francis Seow, Teng Liang Hong, James Gomes, Sylvia Lim and other heavy weight.

5% Chinese Speaking will not vote Dr Chee Soon Juan who Jail, Bankrupcy, Fine and so on

25% Chinese Speaking will vote for NSP, SDP and WP opposition

Can you provide the link as to where you got the percentages from? Or is this something you are making up???

 

[fivestars]

Malaysian politics was about political reform and that was supported regardless of one's race. You have the same thing in Singapore too. Take a look at SDP. Minorities like Jufrie and Seelan are prepared to go to jail for reformist cause.

Now look at NSP and WP. Both Chinese oriented parties asking for Malay and Indian support? You've got some nerve.

Why don't you ask how many Jews willing to support the Nazi party instead.

The problem is not NSP and WP. Their voter is 30%. If they support SDP, they may lose half suppoters.

Many of us only had one kid. Nobody of Chinese Speaking Voter want their kids went to jail, fine, police station for investigation and so on. English speaking already point Chinese Speaking as watsed Singapore Time, Money and so on. We shall not exit in Singapore and burden Singapore to progress. Only English speaking done a lot good thing.

SDP had to went for English speaking to gain support but not NSP or WP. NSP and WP only the 30% vote. SDP need 30% more from Malay, Indian and English to gain into power.

 

[fivestars]

Can you provide the link as to where you got the percentages from? Or is this something you are making up???

http://www.elections.gov.sg/elections_past_parliamentary2006.html