My Friend Jocelyn

[TracyTan866]

Yes, I always suspect that you are some rich "tai tai" in Singapore, sitting in front of the computer screen visiting SBF and ranting. How many LV bags do you have? kate Spate? GUCCI?

i m not a rich tai tai...i work hard ...

 

[Leongsam]

So u agree that what the pap, susan and woffles do are not right?

I disagree with your above statement... every country is different. If I have children, I wld rather they grow up in a country with caring values not money values

Countries don't have caring values. GOOD PEOPLE have caring values. You'll find them all over the world just as you'll find selfish, materialistic characters no matter where you go.

 

[TracyTan866]

Countries don't have caring values. GOOD PEOPLE have caring values. You'll find them all over the world just as you'll find selfish, materialistic characters no matter where you go.

A country's core values mould its people's values and behaviours.

Look at Aus citizens, Japanese and PRCs..their graciousness, social behaviours, courtesy, etc.

 

[Leongsam]

A country's core values mould its people's values and behaviours.

Look at Aus citizens, Japanese and PRCs..their graciousness, social behaviours, courtesy, etc.

Countries don't have core values. People have core values.

Values vary from region to region. Cities tend to bring out the worst in people. Rural living is more laid back. With more space for everyone, humans extend more consideration for each other.

When I was living in Sydney, acts of graciousness were few and far between. However, at my rural home which I retreated to when I wanted some peace and quiet, my neighbours were considerate, helpful and friendly.

 

[TracyTan866]

Countries don't have core values. People have core values.

Values vary from region to region. Cities tend to bring out the worst in people. Rural living is more laid back. With more space for everyone, humans extend more consideration for each other.

When I was living in Sydney, acts of graciousness were few and far between. However, at my rural home which I retreated to when I wanted some peace and quiet, my neighbours were considerate, helpful and friendly.

r u saying that China citizens behave the same as Japanese citizens?

 

[@rmadill0]

We used 20 pages to feed a troll? Wow....

 

[Leongsam]

r u saying that China citizens behave the same as Japanese citizens?

Behavior depends upon circumstances rather than national boundaries. A hard life tends to harden people while in a land of milk and honey, people tend to have more time for each other.

At the end of the day, all I'm doing is pointing out to you that your vision of Australia as a land of caring and consideration isn't realistic. I lived in many parts of OZ for more than a decade and met my fair share of selfish, materialistic and obnoxious humans... and no... they were not recent Asian migrants. They were from the white Australia generation. Life tends to be very cut throat in many parts of Australia and you have to be tough and stand up for your rights in order to get ahead.

Many Singaporeans slink back home after less than a year because they cannot handle the in-your-face verbal altercations that OZs are good at. OZs speak their mind when they see something they don't like while Singaporeans take pictures to send to stomp.

 

[TracyTan866]

Behavior depends upon circumstances rather than national boundaries. A hard life tends to harden people while in a land of milk and honey, people tend to have more time for each other.

At the end of the day, all I'm doing is pointing out to you that your vision of Australia as a land of caring and consideration isn't realistic. I lived in many parts of OZ for more than a decade and met my fair share of selfish, materialistic and obnoxious humans... and no... they were not recent Asian migrants. They were from the white Australia generation. Life tends to be very cut throat in many parts of Australia and you have to be tough and stand up for your rights in order to get ahead.

Many Singaporeans slink back home after less than a year because they cannot handle the in-your-face verbal altercations that OZs are good at. OZs speak their mind when they see something they don't like while Singaporeans take pictures to send to stomp.

indeed behaviour can be moulded by circumstances..Behaviours are also moulded by values, upbringing, situations, experiences, social norms, personal traits, culture, friends, people u you mix with, etc...

A PRC can easily be picked up in SG even though his colour may look the same as 70% of Singaporeans

 

[Leongsam]

We used 20 pages to feed a troll? Wow....

She's not a troll. Trolls start a thread and then disappear. She replies to just about every single post. :p

 

[Balancemind]

unlike you, I dont envy Susan nor Woffles. On the contrary I see them as how tragic SG system is. They are greed personified. they dont show love, compassion, etc. It's cases like them and the pap leaders that I want my children out of SG . I dont want my children to be slaves of materialism and who lack soul and love in their walk here on earth. Have they forgotten the below Oath that Susan and Woffles swore to the Almighty, their parents and their teachers:

"
I SWEAR in the presence of the Almighty and before my family, my teachers and my peers that according to my ability and judgment I will keep this Oath and Stipulation.

WITH PURITY, HOLINESS AND BENEFICENCE I will pass my life and practice my art. Except for the prudent correction of an imminent danger, I will neither treat any patient nor carry out any research on any human being without the valid informed consent of the subject or the appropriate legal protector thereof, understanding that research must have as its purpose the furtherance of the health of that individual. Into whatever patient setting I enter, I will go for the benefit of the sick and will abstain from every voluntary act of mischief or corruption and further from the seduction of any patient. "

You admire them..I dont

Yes, I do. :p Now tell me on what basis you are faulting Susan for greed personified? No where in that Oath did it prohibit Susan in charging her wealthy patience the sister of the Sultan of Brunei that professional fees of her that makes many in the Medical Council green in the eyes of envy. There is no compliants that her wealthy patience has not been properly cared for until she went back to her Allah. So, how can one begrudge Susan for that fees that now got her into problem and has to take a 3 years holiday. Here is not a case that her patience cannot afford her fees. Indeed to charged her any lower would have been an insult to the Sultan, the richest bloke on earth. The fees of Susan in question is just only a spack of dust to him. To allow him the yardstick to quarrel over the quantum of her late sister's medical fees after they have enjoyed the benefit of Susan's professional services is clearly an insult to the Sultan's integrity as a man to be respect and here you are joining in the pack to demolish Susan, a world renowed liver specialist when you should have stood up for fairness in commercial dealing. Think about it should one day one grand old man be found to be suffering of liver ailment and need the expertise of Susan to keep him kicking, tell me don't you run the risk of being make to look stupid when they have no alternative but to forgive Susan from all the accusations so that legally she can attend to the medical need of that grand old man. As for me, my stand is that Susan is entitled to her fees as agreed so long as no where in that Oath of hers forbid her to charge for her services in the quantum she deem appropriate moreso in the case where her patience was close family member of the world richest bloke who has tons of $$$ to burn without blinking his eyes. Susan's medical fees is no where near when compare to the monies the Sultan's brother Jufrie has thrown to the wind. So let's be fair to Susan. OK

 

[Ash007]

She is "passionate" about replying post then?

She's not a troll. Trolls start a thread and then disappear. She replies to just about every single post. :p

 

[TracyTan866]

Yes, I do. :p Now tell me on what basis you are faulting Susan for greed personified? No where in that Oath did it prohibit Susan in charging her wealthy patience the sister of the Sultan of Brunei that professional fees of her that makes many in the Medical Council green in the eyes of envy. There is no compliants that her wealthy patience has not been properly cared for until she went back to her Allah. So, how can one begrudge Susan for that fees that now got her into problem and has to take a 3 years holiday. Here is not a case that her patience cannot afford her fees. Indeed to charged her any lower would have been an insult to the Sultan, the richest bloke on earth. The fees of Susan in question is just only a spack of dust to him. To allow him the yardstick to quarrel over the quantum of her late sister's medical fees after they have enjoyed the benefit of Susan's professional services is clearly an insult to the Sultan's integrity as a man to be respect and here you are joining in the pack to demolish Susan, a world renowed liver specialist when you should have stood up for fairness in commercial dealing. Think about it should one day one grand old man be found to be suffering of liver ailment and need the expertise of Susan to keep him kicking, tell me don't you run the risk of being make to look stupid when they have no alternative but to forgive Susan from all the accusations so that legally she can attend to the medical need of that grand old man. As for me, my stand is that Susan is entitled to her fees as agreed so long as no where in that Oath of hers forbid her to charge for her services in the quantum she deem appropriate moreso in the case where her patience was close family member of the world richest bloke who has tons of $$$ to burn without blinking his eyes. Susan's medical fees is no where near when compare to the monies the Sultan's brother Jufrie has thrown to the wind. So let's be fair to Susan. OK

Her peers and the SG Medical Council disagree with you. Her case is still on. She has been convicted of 94 cases of professional misconduct. Did she break the law? Let's wait for verdict of her appeal.

There are legal and moral responsibilities for a person. Whether she broke the law or not it's for the High Court to judge. But obviously from her initial conviction, SMC surmised that she has broken legally and morally.

LKY defended his obscene pay rise legally as he was able to push it through parliament. that gave him a legal mandate. But he lost the fight morally.

 

[blur sotong]

When I was living in Sydney, acts of graciousness were few and far between. However, at my rural home which I retreated to when I wanted some peace and quiet, my neighbours were considerate, helpful and friendly.

Hey boss, your experience maybe because you more kwai lan than me is it? ha ha ... joking.

I have been staying in Sydney for the past few years and enjoying it. Every where one goes, there will be good, bad and the ugly. Only which appeared more often that matters.

Say for driving, even in Sydney CDB, I find people giving way to me and I reacted likewise. When I flicked my turning indicator light on, folks give way to allow me to navigate safely without rush. Can I expect the same in sinkieland?

Also, if one is polite to the others, it is likely to be reciprocated. I always walk along the street smiling [coz I am happy] and sometimes strangers smile back and asked "How are you today?" or give an acknowledging nod. I tried the same in Sinkieland. I never get the same respond. Guess sinkie folks thought I am kind of deranged.

I lived in many parts of OZ for more than a decade and met my fair share of selfish, materialistic and obnoxious humans... and no... they were not recent Asian migrants. They were from the white Australia generation.

Many Singaporeans slink back home after less than a year because they cannot handle the in-your-face verbal altercations that OZs are good at. OZs speak their mind when they see something they don't like while Singaporeans take pictures to send to stomp.

Boss, time has changed. It is not as rampant now as what you think.

Sinkies slink back home for various reasons. Not necessary "because they cannot handle the in-your-face verbal altercations". That could be a reason at most.

BTW, I recently gotten even with a 2nd generation Greek. We are still on talking term and the Greek has more respect for me. Must learn to stand up and fight for one's belief.

Sinkies "take pictures to send to stomp" because in sinkieland, one is brought up not to speak up. Unlike in Oz, the kids were taught to speak up from a very tender age. Blame it on the chow cheng hu and the culture they imposed if you must. I can never forget that case where much heavier punishment was meted out by the chief justice, way beyond the maximum allowed per the nature of the offence committed, just because that poor chap appealed. How would you expect anybody to speak up?

 

[Newbie2012]

Hahahaha....u aspire to be a caucasian?

Am I going to be a caucasian? I don't know; maybe you can tell us better since you know Joycelyn and her hubby. But if I am gonna be an Australian citizen, I got to at least learn to speak like a Caucasian, right?

BTW what is my sex gonna be...I can't see myself as my eyelids are still closed.

 

[Ash007]

Hey boss, your experience maybe because you more kwai lan than me is it? ha ha ... joking.

I have been staying in Sydney for the past few years and enjoying it. Every where one goes, there will be good, bad and the ugly. Only which appeared more often that matters.

Say for driving, even in Sydney CDB, I find people giving way to me and I reacted likewise. When I flicked my turning indicator light on, folks give way to allow me to navigate safely without rush. Can I expect the same in sinkieland?

Also, if one is polite to the others, it is likely to be reciprocated. I always walk along the street smiling [coz I am happy] and sometimes strangers smile back and asked "How are you today?" or give an acknowledging nod. I tried the same in Sinkieland. I never get the same respond. Guess sinkie folks thought I am kind of deranged.

I have very similar experiences. My dad is here now, and when I drive him around he would comment how everyone lets the other cars merge etc. He said that would never happen in Singapore. You do get the occasional dickheads that drive fast though, but its nothing, just keep your distance and let them pass. I find it pretty relaxing driving here. There is no rush.

 

[TracyTan866]

Hey boss, your experience maybe because you more kwai lan than me is it? ha ha ... joking.

I have been staying in Sydney for the past few years and enjoying it. Every where one goes, there will be good, bad and the ugly. Only which appeared more often that matters.

Say for driving, even in Sydney CDB, I find people giving way to me and I reacted likewise. When I flicked my turning indicator light on, folks give way to allow me to navigate safely without rush. Can I expect the same in sinkieland?

Also, if one is polite to the others, it is likely to be reciprocated. I always walk along the street smiling [coz I am happy] and sometimes strangers smile back and asked "How are you today?" or give an acknowledging nod. I tried the same in Sinkieland. I never get the same respond. Guess sinkie folks thought I am kind of deranged.



Boss, time has changed. It is not as rampant now as what you think.

Sinkies slink back home for various reasons. Not necessary "because they cannot handle the in-your-face verbal altercations". That could be a reason at most.

BTW, I recently gotten even with a 2nd generation Greek. We are still on talking term and the Greek has more respect for me. Must learn to stand up and fight for one's belief.

Sinkies "take pictures to send to stomp" because in sinkieland, one is brought up not to speak up. Unlike in Oz, the kids were taught to speak up from a very tender age. Blame it on the chow cheng hu and the culture they imposed if you must. I can never forget that case where much heavier punishment was meted out by the chief justice, way beyond the maximum allowed per the nature of the offence committed, just because that poor chap appealed. How would you expect anybody to speak up?

Thanks for your insight.

Agree with you..our experiences are affected by our personalities, behaviours, etc as much as they are affected by the other party.

 

[eatshitndie]

BTW what is my sex gonna be...I can't see myself as my eyelids are still closed.

dear fetus newbie,

my name is dr. kwa chee bai. i am jocelyn's gynae. i cunt tell, sorry can't tell, for the moment what your sex is as i don't see a dick. :o

 

[TracyTan866]

Am I going to be a caucasian? I don't know; maybe you can tell us better since you know Joycelyn and her hubby. But if I am gonna be an Australian citizen, I got to at least learn to speak like a Caucasian, right?

BTW what is my sex gonna be...I can't see myself as my eyelids are still closed.

Jocelyn and her hubby are SG chinese.

that pic of newbie baby is a caucasian...not too good looking though

 

[TracyTan866]

I have very similar experiences. My dad is here now, and when I drive him around he would comment how everyone lets the other cars merge etc. He said that would never happen in Singapore. You do get the occasional dickheads that drive fast though, but its nothing, just keep your distance and let them pass. I find it pretty relaxing driving here. There is no rush.

courtesy begets courtesy...quality of life is good in aus.

 

[Ash007]

Gene therapy can change it with blue eyes and blonde hair.

Jocelyn and her hubby are SG chinese.

that pic of newbie baby is a caucasian...not too good looking though