Ms Lo Hwei Yen

[TracyTan866]

Obviously, you don't understand Jihadist Muslim terrorist.

Are you claiming to be a Muslim terrorist expert?

Human psychologists cover human terrorists

 

[ChaoPappyPoodle]

This, I will agree.

However, in the case of the Mumbai terrorist attack, there is nothing LHL can say will change anything. How many of those held hostage by the terrorist got free because their leaders kept quiet? I'm not talking about those who escaped being captured. Can you give me some examples where hostage got freed because their leaders kept quiet?

It is much easier to point to countless examples all over the world where idiots mouth off the wrong things and hostages are killed either immediately or shortly thereafter.

The game plan has always been to buy time so that counter-terrorist teams or SWAT teams are in place to storm the scene and to rescue as many hostages as possible.

Your gay loong leader went against every script ever written when dealing with hostage takers.

 

[TracyTan866]

I think they are just like you, either brain dead or really naive.

hahaha..and why are you debating with a brain dead or naive poster? arent you contradicting yourself?

are you frustrated that you have been exposed and are pinned to a corner that you have to resort to name calling?

 

[rodent2005]

This, I will agree.

However, in the case of the Mumbai terrorist attack, there is nothing LHL can say will change anything. How many of those held hostage by the terrorist got free because their leaders kept quiet?

I don't exactly agree.

What LHL can ever say will not help the situation. But what he said might worsen the situation like provoking the terrorists to target your nationals. Common sense, no?

Like I have said, who can provide any evidence with most of the terrorists dead? Granted the terrorists might have shot everyone anyway, but the fact is not everyone got shot.

I would think that if you are the captives, you have higher chance of survival if you keep a low profile and remain inconspicuos. Why raise the profile of your nationals and risk them being targetted when whatever you say will not help anything?

The terrorists had limited time to create the maximum impact. In such a situation, who would you kill? A national from a friendly nation or a national from a country which PM has just gone on public to condemn you?

The Times of India reported:

"Police reported that some hostages were still being held at the Taj Mahal and Oberoi with eyewitnesses saying the gunmen had targeted foreigners after they kept shouting: "Who has US or UK passports?" Several guests were also stuck."

Source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ged_five-star_hotels_/articleshow/3762100.cms

 

[TracyTan866]

Despite the many attempts to highlight to you the intent of our discussion, for reason(s) best known to yourself, you have somehow miraculously 'siam' the pertinent points discussed. It sure requires a man of high calibre to achieve what you did. I salute you, bro.

you are indeed kind to him.

or you are excellent in your sarcasm.

great job

 

[Devil Within]

All hostages were killed? did you check your sources?

Those who were not killed, were they released by the terrorist or were they hiding from the terrorist and not captured? Were they light coloured skin or dark skin colour? Please check your sources.

 

[TracyTan866]

May I kindly solicit your expert opinion as to what a PM of a hostage should or shouldn't do in the event of a similar incident taking place in future?

There are 2 options here. Either keep quiet or say something. If say something, kindly enlighten as to the content, please. Thank you.

Good question you made. That shd set him thinking

 

[TracyTan866]

this thread is becoming a joke. i'm laughing so hard my dog is getting worried.

hahaha..it may be a joke to you as you dont know the discussion subject

for those who know the discussion, we are taking lhl to task for his silliness and stupidity which caused an innocent life...that's not a joke to him

 

[rodent2005]

Those who were not killed, were they released by the terrorist or were they hiding from the terrorist and not captured? Were they light coloured skin or dark skin colour? Please check your sources.

Some captives were indeed released because they were from "friendly nations". Could Ms. Lo have said something like she was sympathetic to their cause to save her life? Or could the terrorists have thought that Singapore was a neutral nation and leave her alone? I mean, there were so many more US and UK nationals to kill right?

 

[TracyTan866]

Like someone has pointed out, those terrorist are out there to kill and they don't care and don't know who LHL is, and I bet they don't even know where Singapore is on the map.

But there is no speculation of what those murderer intent to do, and that is to kill no matter who say what or do.

Those are your wild speculation. totally baseless

 

[TracyTan866]

oh on the contrary, i'm just a very normal human being who can't read terrorists' minds or see through walls to make sure they are not watching TV. that's why i'd prefer to shut up when a Singaporean life is in their hands.

you also seem to have watched too many action movies because you think that the terrorists were busy shooting people and running around all the time. the standoff dragged on for three days, and much of it was just tension and waiting. they certainly had time to monitor media coverage of the crisis, which, as it turned out, they did. go google it. welcome to the real world.

good points you raised

 

[Devil Within]

It is much easier to point to countless examples all over the world where idiots mouth off the wrong things and hostages are killed either immediately or shortly thereafter.

The game plan has always been to buy time so that counter-terrorist teams or SWAT teams are in place to storm the scene and to rescue as many hostages as possible.

Your gay loong leader went against every script ever written when dealing with hostage takers.

Most hostage takers don't kill their hostage first, they negotiate. In the Mumbai case, they kill first and no negotiation.

 

[TracyTan866]

Not all the hostages were killed. It is known that the terrorists called their base to ask about the hostages. A few hostages were set free. Our beloved, effeminate PM, gayloong tried to act tough and it is very likely that this led to the death of the Singaporean hostage.

Gayloong has time and time again shown what an utter idiot he is. Singaporeans talk about the quality of the opposition but it is gay loong that should be looked at closely. As long as this indefensible moron runs any institution, let alone a country, it is surely going to the pits.

You are right. lhl is such a disaster. Singapore cant afford lhl another term. Either the pap changes lhl, or Singaporeans have to change the pap

 

[TracyTan866]

Every hostage situation are different. It depends on who are the hostage takers and what were their intention, demand and objective.

In this Mumbai case, there is no two way about it. They were out to kill and killing is their objective and statement. Nothing you say or do will change their zombies religious mind.

hahaha...laughable indeed

 

[rodent2005]

good points you raised

Actually the terrorists were talking to a minder based in Pakistan all the time. The minder instructed the terrorists who to kill. Did the minder had time to watch international media coverage of the attack? You can bet your last dollar that he was watching.

Initially, the terrorists were only specifically targetting US and UK nationals, and Jews. Did some hero then elevate the profile of Singapore to the same level as US and UK?

 

[Devil Within]

Are you claiming to be a Muslim terrorist expert?

Human psychologists cover human terrorists

Are you saying that you know how to talk the terrorist into giving up being a terrorist?

 

[TracyTan866]

And we are not even asking him to perform a difficult task like brain surgery, heart surgery etc. All he needed to do was shut his mouth, say a prayer for the hostages. Like that he finds it hard to do. Tell me, is there any task easier than shutting your mouth other than going to sleep which requires time?

You are absolutely right.

But for a man like lhl who is idiotic , stupid and lacks EQ, he shoots off his mouth withiout thinking

 

[Devil Within]

Those are your wild speculation. totally baseless

As if you were not speculating?

 

[TracyTan866]

You really have some serious difficulty with timelines and with your approach to post mortem analysis. I'll let you be.

Yes, just let him be..no point trying to reason with him

 

[TracyTan866]

don't be a moron. whatever was said by whoever moron outside of that stairwell had no bearing on folks and mudderfuggers in that stairwell. it was inconsequential. fate was sealed. if no one could reach them from the outside, who cared what pinkie said? he could have said "go ahead and make my day", and nobody could have cared.

can you just say whether you agree that lhl shd have said what he said knowing that Hwei Yen was a hostage and her life was in danger?

just a "yes" or "no" from you.