Is it time for all religions to accept evolution?

[PUNISHER]

The smallest crocs is the dwarf caimen . animals or reptiles happens to be my forte

 

[PUNISHER]

Deinotherium and mammoth is also another evolution product of the elephant .

 

[PUNISHER]

Shark also another evolution product of the Megalodons in fact there's many prehistoric fishes still alive in the deep ocean for example like the Goblin sharks which are originally discovered off the coast of Japan. Another is giant river stingray , which are found in Thailand , New Guinea , Borneo and Australia ( now think about Steve Irwin ) . Frilled Shark , has been terrorizing the oceans for at least 95 million years, looking something like a dragon . Alligator Gar , have been around for 100 million years is a dream fish for many angler , hundreds of sharp teeth. Double-rows of sharp teeth, because back in ancient times you needed all the teeth you could get in order to combat other bigger and dangerous fish .They live All over the Southern U.S., in rivers along the Gulf Coast . Those fishes I mention above are prehistoric fishes and they are still alive until now .

 

[PUNISHER]

Found in Japan , don't blink your eyes ! It's a living fossil found !!
[video=youtube;mneDhOtVEQw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mneDhOtVEQw&sns=em[/video]

 

[Deleted member 18975]

What kind of edvidence you want for evolution when you don't even want edvidence for talking snakes staying alive for days inside a fish stomach ...ect . Science have been trying very hard to prove their statement by providing bits of edvidence putting together using the latest science equipment . Science never say they have answer for everything unlike the bible so ignorance . Everyday science will discover something new and science never stop at one place even though they already have answers . That's something beautiful about science .

I want to see the intermediate types, the so called missing links - not a single one exists today. If indeed evolution is still happening today, we would still be able to see these elusive 'creepy crawlies', so to speak

Gills will always remain as gills and lungs as lungs, amphibians notwithstanding!
One cannot 'evolve' into another.

Modern science cannot connect the dots because the dots simply don't exist.

The bible does not have exclusive rights to the truth. It is primarily written as a historical document and only secondarily a metaphysical commentary.

 

[PUNISHER]

I want to see the intermediate types, the so called missing links - not a single one exists today. If indeed evolution is still happening today, we would still be able to see these elusive 'creepy crawlies', so to speak

Gills will always remain as gills and lungs as lungs, amphibians notwithstanding!
One cannot 'evolve' into another.

Modern science cannot connect the dots because the dots simply don't exist.

The bible does not have exclusive rights to the truth. It is primarily written as a historical document and only secondarily a metaphysical commentary.

This is what you have wrote in #53 " Not a single missing link of any animal and plant species have been found; that is a species which is undergoing evolution.
Not a single species" . Now I provide proof that some species do survived during the Big Bang . Are you going to twist and turn again ?



" If indeed evolution is still happening today, we would still be able to see these elusive 'creepy crawlies', so to speak "

I supposed you don't believe in the Big Bang either



" Gills will always remain as gills and lungs as lungs, amphibians notwithstanding One cannot 'evolve' into another "

Give you two example , Tadpoles can evo into frog that have legs and caterpillar can evo into butterflies with wings
I have shown you good example please do not change your tune as what all christians always do .


" Modern science cannot connect the dots because the dots simply don't exist "

If modern science couldn't connect the dots so what's make you think that during the time those caveman who wrote the bible think the earth is flat can connected the dots ?


" The bible does not have exclusive rights to the truth. It is primarily written as a historical document and only secondarily a metaphysical commentary "

You christains better make up your mind . Is the bible the truth or just another history book ? If its a history book then wtf talking snake , staying alive in a fish stomach for days doing in a history book ?

 

[Psalm23]

Shark also another evolution product of the Megalodons in fact there's many prehistoric fishes still alive in the deep ocean for example like the Goblin sharks which are originally discovered off the coast of Japan. Another is giant river stingray , which are found in Thailand , New Guinea , Borneo and Australia ( now think about Steve Irwin ) . Frilled Shark , has been terrorizing the oceans for at least 95 million years, looking something like a dragon . Alligator Gar , have been around for 100 million years is a dream fish for many angler , hundreds of sharp teeth. Double-rows of sharp teeth, because back in ancient times you needed all the teeth you could get in order to combat other bigger and dangerous fish .They live All over the Southern U.S., in rivers along the Gulf Coast . Those fishes I mention above are prehistoric fishes and they are still alive until now .

You have just shown us the difference betweeen micro-evolution and macro-evolution. No one is doubting that micro-evolution takes place. But it has been proven (and the fruitfly experiment is the best proof) that macro-evolution can never happen, either in the lab or in natural environment.

Whether it's blue sharks, white sharks, man-eating sharks or non-man-eating sharks, sharks are sharks. So the same as dogs, whether Pekinese, Alsasian, Bulldog, they are dogs. It is interesting to see from your note that you mentioned pre-historic fishes are still in existence. My question is how old you thing they are? 1 milllion years' old? or 1 billion years old? You have just shown to us that the 'old earth' of million or billion of years is simply a fairy-tales!

And fish with teeths....what's your point - to prove or to disapprove evolution? Of course fishes have teeth but perhaps some don't have. Fishes feed on many organisms like worms, sea-plants, etc and certainly they need teeth. This is intentionally designed by the Creator. So, what's your point you trying to arrive?

Psalm23

 

[PUNISHER]

You have just shown us the difference betweeen micro-evolution and macro-evolution. No one is doubting that micro-evolution takes place. But it has been proven (and the fruitfly experiment is the best proof) that macro-evolution can never happen, either in the lab or in natural environment.

Whether it's blue sharks, white sharks, man-eating sharks or non-man-eating sharks, sharks are sharks. So the same as dogs, whether Pekinese, Alsasian, Bulldog, they are dogs. It is interesting to see from your note that you mentioned pre-historic fishes are still in existence. My question is how old you thing they are? 1 milllion years' old? or 1 billion years old? You have just shown to us that the 'old earth' of million or billion of years is simply a fairy-tales!

And fish with teeths....what's your point - to prove or to disapprove evolution? Of course fishes have teeth but perhaps some don't have. Fishes feed on many organisms like worms, sea-plants, etc and certainly they need teeth. This is intentionally designed by the Creator. So, what's your point you trying to arrive?

Psalm23

Dog is dog shark is shark what talking you ? Then religion also religion why you choose Christianity ? And why say those who dont believe in your cult will go to hell ? so you dont believe in tua ya peh you also go hell ? because taoist also a religion . so you think jesus also tua peh kong since ppl say tua peh kong is also god again trying to talk nonsense and flip like roti-prata . Even the same species of dog fetch different price .. Same like arowanas , different colour different price ! Idiot . The fish in the video is more then a million year idiot . If you don't know about animals or fish then don't come here and giving fake infor and talk cock just to defense your cult

Idiot !! You mean all fish have teeth as sharp as the one I shown ? During that Dino era a lot of animals and fishes need to protect themselves against bigger and stronger predator that's why their look and sizes are different then today's animals . If not they can't survive . Have you seen a black polar bear before ? of course not because if they are black in color then they wont be able to blend in to the surrounding . You need to watch more about national geo or animals planets to make you smarter . yes please continue to talk cock so that I can show ppl how stupid or how defensive christian is . Please carry on posting

 

[PUNISHER]

Is that how that idiot psalm23 teach his kid ? Whahhahaha . Really pity his kids . I'm sure all his friends will be laughing at him . idiot family .

 

[PUNISHER]

You christains better make up your mind . Is the bible the truth or just another history book ? If its a history book then wtf talking snake , staying alive in a fish stomach for days doing in a history book ? Again cherry picking to defense their cult can change their stand anything and anytime as long can defense their cult

 

[Deleted member 18975]

“Give you two example , Tadpoles can evo into frog that have legs and caterpillar can evo into butterflies with wings I have shown you good example please do not change your tune as what all christians always do .”

You christains better make up your mind..

What you have described is not evolution. You are describing a young animal growing up. In fact, the examples that you have provided shows definitively that you don’t understand the subject matter at all!!!

Tadpoles come from frogs and it is expected that they grow up into frogs. If they grow into something else, then it is time to get excited. Otherwise, we can all go to sleep.

Same for caterpillar: If a caterpillar grows into something other than a butterfly, then we can congratulate ourselves and we can expect a call from the Nobel prize committee for our discovery..

Aiyo! You are one confused mind!
Knock, knock, knocking on your head! Hello! Anything inside Heheheh

Huh?! Please show me on any post I ever said that I am Christian?!
Where?! Anywhere?! Show me where?!! Show meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

 

[Deleted member 18975]

so you try to defend your imaginary friend and failed to study science.. tsk tsk.. all the years of education are wasted on you.

The modern approach precisely expects you not to accept all that your teachers have taught you in school.
Did you contribute to class discussions by questioning your teacher that his/her approach to the subject was askewed in favour of the current paradigm?!

I think not.
I did.
If you had challenged your teacher, s/he would have been so proud of you for exhibiting critical thinking skills.
You absorbed all that had been taught to you in school to regurgitate them all during the exams, didn't you?!

You just don't have critical thinking skills. It's ok really.
You were born slow and your environment just did not predispose you to 'critical thinking'.

On the other hand, I made full use of my education by challenging concepts to review the evidence for and against 'evolutionism'.
In fact, any one of my teachers could have destroyed evolutionism because they had critical thinking skills.

Here once again I see that you are putting words into my mouth by stating that "I'm defending my imaginary friend".
Show me where I am actually defending my 'imaginary friend'. Show me please?
Don't imagine things laaa

The fact is it is possible to hold a disinterested metaphysical view of things and events.

Question is: Is your thinking capacity fine tuned enough to be able to fathom such a view?

 

[Psalm23]

Dog is dog shark is shark what talking you ? Then religion also religion why you choose Christianity ?.....Even the same species of dog fetch different price .. Same like arowanas , different colour different price! Idiot. The fish in the video is more then a million year idiot . If you don't know about animals or fish then don't come here and giving fake infor and talk cock just to defense your cult

Idiot !! You mean all fish have teeth as sharp as the one I shown During that Dino era a lot of animals and fishes need to protect themselves against bigger and stronger predator that's why their look and sizes are different then today's animals . If not they can't survive . Have you seen a black polar bear before ? of course not because if they are black in color then they wont be able to blend in to the surrounding . You need to watch more about national geo or animals planets to make you smarter . yes please continue to talk cock so that I can show ppl how stupid or how defensive christian is . Please carry on posting

You are shooting yourself onto your foot!

Just because there some expensive fish and there are some cheap fish, then 'evolution' has occured. This is one of the most stupdiest statements. And just because not all fishes have sharp teeth, so 'evolution' has occured. What are you thinking? We all know the price of any produce is due to supply and demand. It's basic economic 101. Nothing to do with evolution. And oh yes, some fishes like sharks have very long and sharp teeth and some like gold fish has no teeth. God created them for many reasons. Sharks are important fish to maintain marine eco-system and they have sharp teeth as part of their 'job' as eco-system protector, and gold fish are oranmental fish keep for by hobbyists.

Frankly, i don't know and I believe all readers (except your close relatiives and cousins like the fishy, drifteer, etc) don't know exactly what are you trying to tell them.

Also, I have already told you several times....Christianity is not ANOTHER religion. The word 'religion' used in the Bible is not to be taken literally the meaning of religion as described in secular dictionary. 'Religion' in the Bible means 'worship' and that is exactly what the original texts of the Bible in Greek and Hebrew meant. Christianity is about worshiping the true God, the God of the Bible, Jesus; it is about rebuilding relationship with God as the relationship between God and man was completely broken when Adam and Eve sinned and disobeyed God. Christianity, and I want to repeat one more time, is not another religion. And to this I want to add, believe in the Theory of Evolution is a religion. But for true Christians, we don't just believe what the Bible say; we need to practise and to act in accordance with what the Bible teaches us; we need to continally worship our God and to rebuild our relationship with Him. Please....we are not into religion. We are into rebuilding relationship with our Creator who created fishes with sharp teeth, fishes with small teeth, fishes with no teeth; we are into rebuilding relationship with our Creator that has created the Book of Life, the DNA into our body cells and as Author of the Book of Life, the DNA, He knew exactly who we are and He knew every of our thought.

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[Psalm23]

What you have described is not evolution. You are describing a young animal growing up. In fact, the examples that you have provided shows definitively that you don’t understand the subject matter at all!!!

Tadpoles come from frogs and it is expected that they grow up into frogs. If they grow into something else, then it is time to get excited. Otherwise, we can all go to sleep.

Same for caterpillar: If a caterpillar grows into something other than a butterfly, then we can congratulate ourselves and we can expect a call from the Nobel prize committee for our discovery..

Aiyo! You are one confused mind!
Knock, knock, knocking on your head! Hello! Anything inside Heheheh

Huh?! Please show me on any post I ever said that I am Christian?!
Where?! Anywhere?! Show me where?!! Show meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

PUNISHER is now very confused. He doesn't know what he is trying to proof - evolution, creation, economics....

Psalm23

 

[Deleted member 18975]

PUNISHER is now very confused. He doesn't know what he is trying to proof - evolution, creation, economics....
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Psalm23

Psalm23: I'm tempted to berate Punisher and rub his nose on the ground for not understanding the difference between evolution and metamorphosis.
Serves him right that he's delving into an area which is beyond his ken.

I still remember coming across the word metamorphosis at when I was in P4. The examples given that time were the mosquito, the butterfly, and the frog.

 

[vamjok]

Not a single missing link of any animal and plant species have been found; that is a species which is undergoing evolution.
Not a single species!

laughing at the stupidity displayed.

uneducated and misinformed in this field. yet acting as if you are an expert. dumb fuck

 

[Deleted member 18975]

laughing at the stupidity displayed.

uneducated and misinformed in this field. yet acting as if you are an expert. dumb fuck

It is exactly because it does not take an expert to understand the fallacies underlying evolutionism that is the crux of the matter here.

If A does not lead to B and there are many in the misinformed evolutionist camp who claim that A leads to B, then I will point that out;
so that among other purposes these misinformed evolutionists will not mislead others!

 

[vamjok]

It is exactly because it does not take an expert to understand the fallacies underlying evolutionism that is the crux of the matter here.

If A does not lead to B and there are many in the misinformed evolutionist camp who claim that A leads to B, then I will point that out;
so that among other purposes these misinformed evolutionists will not mislead others!

that statement of yours very much shows how shallow you are on current understanding of modern genetics. ill informed retards LOL. stupidity really has no cure.

you have no formal education on genetic at tertiary level right ? if not you will not make sure a dumb statement.

 

[Deleted member 18975]

that statement of yours very much shows how shallow you are on current understanding of modern genetics. ill informed retards LOL. stupidity really has no cure.

you have no formal education on genetic at tertiary level right ? if not you will not make sure a dumb statement.

In fact, it is you who do not have any formal education in genetics at a tertiary level, not me!

You come in here with a skull full of shit and you try to pass yourself off as a champion of evolution!
You belong to the dregs among monkeys!

 

[Psalm23]

that statement of yours very much shows how shallow you are on current understanding of modern genetics. ill informed retards LOL. stupidity really has no cure.

you have no formal education on genetic at tertiary level right ? if not you will not make sure a dumb statement.

Rojak Scientist,

And you have any formal education in genetics? Every scientist who has formal education in genetics and has done substantial study will tell you that DNAs are 4-digital codes that give each cell instructions on how they should 'behave' and this in turn will allow each cell to from in a variety of functions. You are the ONLY scientist, rather rojak scientist, that does not agree to this. Each cell - whether human cell or non-human cells like those belong to animals - is an extremely highly complex machine. Further the information that is packed in each cell is so dense that could fill up thousands of encyclopaedia! We (except some rojak scientists) understand that information MUST come from an intelligent source.

Evolutionists have been trying to 'prove' that there are missing links by pointing out some dead bones zillion of years' old. If indeed there are missing links, why none is still in existence? Why didn't we see any half-bird and half-monkey, half-fish and half-banana?

Modern science with all the complex instrumentations have already shown that evolution can never be occured by natural selection. Remember your famous illustration - the Fruitfly - yes, they did mutate and many of these fruitflies that were exposed to radiation and other chemicals have extra features (and some have less features) compared to their unexposed parents, they remained as fruitflies. It was reported that these mutated fruitflies would never able to survive in the wild. At best they can only be confined in the labs. They couldnot be changed to something else like a cockroach. Furthermore, it is interesting to note that some intelligence is needed to intervene by scientists to expose them to radiation and other chemicals, and all they could achieve was some variations in the fruitflies, and never a new specie. This experiment of fruitfly have gone for at least 30 - 50 years and yet none has turned to become what scientists were expecting - anything insect other than fruitfly.

You are beyond hope and it is sad that 'educated' people like you believe in evolution....I am giving you the benefits of the doubt to consider you as educated....frankly I am very doubtful you have passed any A-level or O-level biology or chemistry!

Psalm23