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Is it time for all religions to accept evolution?

So i always say, evolution is a new age religion. We are better than you, we are smarter than you. Blah blah blah. Athiest who never read the works of Charles Darwin using his works to denounce spirituality. Your lives have no meaning sinkies!
 
So i always say, evolution is a new age religion. We are better than you, we are smarter than you. Blah blah blah. Athiest who never read the works of Charles Darwin using his works to denounce spirituality. Your lives have no meaning sinkies!
Have you read whole bible? Have you read Darwin books?;)
 
you never pass O level as well and learn chemistry, biology and physics in your sunday class at church from idiot like psalm23?

It is you who never did pass O level. From what I have gathered thus far, you can't even construct an English sentence properly. With an F for English, you failed the whole exams! Get back to me next year..
 
It is you who never did pass O level. From what I have gathered thus far, you can't even construct an English sentence properly.

That is a very truthful observation! Either vamjok is a lunatic or a liar, or the quality of NUS science graduates is really at the bottom of the pile. Through my past interactions with him, I believe that he is a lunatic. He can't even get basic terminology ("detector" vs "probe") used in quantum physics experiments correctly. The thing is, you could jolly well be communicating with a patient at IMH. You never know!
 
So i always say, evolution is a new age religion.

In a sense, I agree with you that evolution is a religion. No scientist has ever simulated the evolution of a full-scale human being from a "base" creature (whatever that is) in a laboratory. Without such an outright provable and repeatable simulation, a giant leap of faith must be placed on the interpretations of those fossil scientists. These fossil scientists have literally become the high priests of evolution. They can spin whatever story they like.

Take evolution with a pinch of salt. I prefer something that I can verify for myself. And no, God is merely the mind's fertile imagination. This much is provable for myself.
 
It is you who never did pass O level. From what I have gathered thus far, you can't even construct an English sentence properly. With an F for English, you failed the whole exams! Get back to me next year..

chao ang mo chee bye, fuck you these 2 words you understand?
 
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That is a very truthful observation! Either vamjok is a lunatic or a liar, or the quality of NUS science graduates is really at the bottom of the pile. Through my past interactions with him, I believe that he is a lunatic. He can't even get basic terminology ("detector" vs "probe") used in quantum physics experiments correctly. The thing is, you could jolly well be communicating with a patient at IMH. You never know!

even local graduate hit bottom of the fucking pile also better than a stupid fuck that never step inside a science college.
even things like probe and detector terms which are used interchangably FUCKING OFTEN in MODERN JOURNALS also want to argue.
stupid fuck, u also another one cannot enter local university ?
 
Oi Vamjok! Your low quality Engrish very hard to understand. I might as well enshroud you:D

I sense you got fumbling fingers syndrome. You get so excited about letting off steam here that well you hit the post button even before reading your own post. You don't come across as very bright.
No worries, it's probably not your fault.

You never had the chance because somewhere along your life timeline, your brain development was stunted.

Back to the subject matter, evolutionism was invented so as to 'flatten' everything in the universe while at the same time elevating man to the top of the pedestal. Evolutionism is useful to the atheists because it secularizes the world.

Among the major rhetorical technique used by Charles Darwin to supplant all other rival ideas is to attack his opponents emotionally. That is not science.

Charles Darwin actually did the future proponents of evolutionism a disservice because he did not pass down any methodology except conjecture from cursory observations. How uncritical of him!

The current lot of evolutionary biologists who having had little direction to go after the bones they dug up could not be admitted their evidence in the rigorous court of sciences, decided (by following the footsteps of the physicists) to scrutinize the miniscule.

This kind of morbid investigation can only arise from those with warped imagination. When staring at bones did not provide any direction, these scientists observe the molecules of these bones for clues.

These evolutionary scientists still cannot connect the dots.

Their funding is running out pretty fast..
 
Oi Vamjok! Your low quality Engrish very hard to understand. I might as well enshroud you:D

I sense you got fumbling fingers syndrome. You get so excited about letting off steam here that well you hit the post button even before reading your own post. You don't come across as very bright.
No worries, it's probably not your fault.

You never had the chance because somewhere along your life timeline, your brain development was stunted.

Back to the subject matter, evolutionism was invented so as to 'flatten' everything in the universe while at the same time elevating man to the top of the pedestal. Evolutionism is useful to the atheists because it secularizes the world.

Among the major rhetorical technique used by Charles Darwin to supplant all other rival ideas is to attack his opponents emotionally. That is not science.

Charles Darwin actually did the future proponents of evolutionism a disservice because he did not pass down any methodology except conjecture from cursory observations. How uncritical of him!

The current lot of evolutionary biologists who having had little direction to go after the bones they dug up could not be admitted their evidence in the rigorous court of sciences, decided (by following the footsteps of the physicists) to scrutinize the miniscule.

This kind of morbid investigation can only arise from those with warped imagination. When staring at bones did not provide any direction, these scientists observe the molecules of these bones for clues.

These evolutionary scientists still cannot connect the dots.

Their funding is running out pretty fast..

you this brainless fuck + frog in the well,

i fucking have on hand the protocol to evolve resistance strain of bacteria and virus. this is fucking performed everyday in lab with multiple rounds to develop strain we want by subjecting in it particular environment. no evidence? another brainless fuck. all these are not possible without current understanding of evolution or if the current model is wrong. i bet stupid uneducated fuck like you will not understand this part anyway. you are merely another religious fucktard that cannot make it into university to study science, yet want to be an expert. so you goes to church to learn it. poor thing

stupid fuck like you that have zero education in this fucking stay out of this shit. only know how to type essay of smoke screen with tons of words of zero substances.
 
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you this brainless fuck + frog in the well,

i fucking have on hand the protocol to evolve resistance strain of bacteria and virus. this is fucking performed everyday in lab with multiple rounds to develop strain we want by subjecting in it particular environment. no evidence? another brainless fuck. all these are not possible without current understanding of evolution or if the current model is wrong. i bet stupid uneducated fuck like you will not understand this part anyway. you are merely another religious fucktard that cannot make it into university to study science, yet want to be an expert. so you goes to church to learn it. poor thing

stupid fuck like you that have zero education in this fucking stay out of this shit. only know how to type essay of smoke screen with tons of words of zero substances.


Well said.

The evolution theory has evolved greatly since Charles Darwin's time and since the 1960s has influenced the entire development of microbiology. That's something people do not realize - the theory being applied on the micro and not just the macro level.

When folks talk about evolution they are thinking of Charles Darwin's theories formulated centuries past. They then claim the evidence is flawed. Uneducated fuckers indeed.
 
Well said.

The evolution theory has evolved greatly since Charles Darwin's time and since the 1960s has influenced the entire development of microbiology. That's something people do not realize - the theory being applied on the micro and not just the macro level.

When folks talk about evolution they are thinking of Charles Darwin's theories formulated centuries past. They then claim the evidence is flawed. Uneducated fuckers indeed.

Actually even at macro level, i do come across papers dealing with species of short life span showing how environmental factor can lead to phenotype changes in few generations. and these experiments are already performed and repeated tons and tons of time all over the world.

yet we have retards here who never dirty their fucking hands with micropipette before, talking crap through their mouth.
 
Even many and more evangelican christians are supporting evolution, many testimonies coming...;)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonath..._b_876345.html

Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

In the evangelical community, the year 2011 has brought a resurgence of debate over evolution. The current issue of Christianity Today asks if genetic discoveries preclude an historical Adam. While BioLogos, the brainchild of NIH director Francis Collins, is seeking to promote theistic evolution among evangelicals, the president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary recently argued that true Christians should believe the Earth is only a few thousand years old.

As someone raised evangelical, I realize anti-evolutionists believe they are defending the Christian tradition. But as a seminary graduate now training to be a medical scientist, I can say that, in reality, they've abandoned it.

In theory, if not always in practice, past Christian theologians valued science out of the belief that God created the world scientists study. Augustine castigated those who made the Bible teach bad science, John Calvin argued that Genesis reflects a commoner's view of the physical world, and the Belgic confession likened scripture and nature to two books written by the same author.

These beliefs encouraged past Christians to accept the best science of their day, and these beliefs persisted even into the evangelical tradition. As Princeton Seminary's Charles Hodge, widely considered the father of modern evangelical theology, put it in 1859: "Nature is as truly a revelation of God as the Bible; and we only interpret the Word of God by the Word of God when we interpret the Bible by science."

In this analysis, Christians must accept sound science, not because they don't believe God created the world, but precisely because they do.

Of course, anti-evolutionists claim their rejection of evolution is not a rejection of science. Phillip Johnson, widely considered the leader of the Intelligent Design movement, states that all he's rejecting is the atheistic lens through which evolutionary scientists view the world. Evolution, he argues, is "based not upon any incontrovertible empirical evidence, but upon a highly philosophical presupposition."

And to a certain extent, this line of argument makes sense. Science is not a neutral enterprise. Prior beliefs undoubtedly influence interpretation. If one believes God created vertebrates with a similar design plan, one can acknowledge their structural similarities without believing in common descent. No amount of dating evidence will convince someone the Earth is 4.5 billion years old if that person believes God created the world to look old, with the appearance of age.

But beyond a certain point, this reasoning breaks down. Because no amount of talk about "worldviews" and "presuppositions" can change a simple fact: creationism has failed to provide an alternative explanation for the vast majority of evidence explained by evolution.

It has failed to explain why birds still carry genes to make teeth, whales to make legs, and humans to make tails.

It has failed to explain why the fossil record proposed by modern scientists can be used to make precise and accurate predictions about the location of transition fossils.

It has failed to explain why the fossil record demonstrates a precise order, with simple organisms in the deepest rocks and more complex ones toward the surface.

It has failed to explain why today's animals live in the same geographical area as fossils of similar species.

It has failed to explain why, if carnivorous dinosaurs lived at the same time as modern animals, we don't find the fossils of modern animals in the stomachs of fossilized dinosaurs.

It has failed to explain the broken genes that litter the DNA of humans and apes but are functional in lower vertebrates.

It has failed to explain how the genetic diversity we observe among humans could have arisen in a few thousand years from two biological ancestors.

Those who believe God created the world scientists study, even while ignoring most of the data compiled by those who study it, might as well rip dozens of pages out of their Bibles. Because if "nature is as truly a revelation of God as the Bible," it's basically the same thing.

Many think the widespread rejection of evolution doesn't really matter. Evolution is about what happened in the past, the argument goes, so rejecting it doesn't have an impact on policies we make today. And aside from school curricula, they may be right.

But the belief that scientists can discover truth, and that, once sufficiently debated, challenged and modified, it should be accepted even if it creates tensions for familiar belief systems, has an obvious impact on decisions that are made everyday. And it is that belief Christians reject when they reject evolution.

In doing so, they've not only led America astray on questions ranging from the value of stem cell research to the etiology of homosexuality to the causes of global warming. They've also abandoned a central commitment of orthodox Christianity.
 
Oi Vamjok! Your low quality Engrish very hard to understand. I might as well enshroud you:D

I sense you got fumbling fingers syndrome. You get so excited about letting off steam here that well you hit the post button even before reading your own post. You don't come across as very bright.
No worries, it's probably not your fault.

You never had the chance because somewhere along your life timeline, your brain development was stunted.

Back to the subject matter, evolutionism was invented so as to 'flatten' everything in the universe while at the same time elevating man to the top of the pedestal. Evolutionism is useful to the atheists because it secularizes the world.

Among the major rhetorical technique used by Charles Darwin to supplant all other rival ideas is to attack his opponents emotionally. That is not science.

Charles Darwin actually did the future proponents of evolutionism a disservice because he did not pass down any methodology except conjecture from cursory observations. How uncritical of him!

The current lot of evolutionary biologists who having had little direction to go after the bones they dug up could not be admitted their evidence in the rigorous court of sciences, decided (by following the footsteps of the physicists) to scrutinize the miniscule.

This kind of morbid investigation can only arise from those with warped imagination. When staring at bones did not provide any direction, these scientists observe the molecules of these bones for clues.

These evolutionary scientists still cannot connect the dots.

Their funding is running out pretty fast..


pundek tambye James Vanilla,
This thread is for you to read and understand your faith first before talking nonsense and joining those christian nuts to make attack on real science without evidence ;)

http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?138930-Hinduism-aka-sanatana-dharma
 
Even many and more evangelican christians are supporting evolution, many testimonies coming...;)


Actually we do not need christians to support evolution. All we need is some honesty, like admitting that christianity like any other religion is a belief, a faith, not based on science, not meant to challenge science in any way. Using religion to attack well-established scientific concepts is both dishonest and despicable. All the more worse if they use religion to drag down people's livelihoods, people's rights, etc.
 
So i always say, evolution is a new age religion. We are better than you, we are smarter than you. Blah blah blah. Athiest who never read the works of Charles Darwin using his works to denounce spirituality. Your lives have no meaning sinkies!

You are right. Most supporters of evolutionism never even try to read the 'Origin of Species' and never knew how Darwin used techniques of argument which is not based on science to cut his opposition. His claims are not defensible because not verifiable; full of conjecture, dots unconnected.

His views eroded tremendously the anthropocentricity of Man. Today what is being taught in schools are secretly not supported by those who are in the bastions of academia. These are atheists have an religious agenda to fulfill; and that is to create conditions for the reign of the Anti Christ, who is currently pulling the important strings in worldly affairs from behind the scenes..

The three bad ideas which are currently running amok in this world and which have the pernicious effects on the world of values are: Evolutionism, psychologism, and relativism. These three which stems from materialism and sensorialism give the illusion that 'true heaven is a place on earth.

The proponents and supporters of these pernicious ideas lack imagination because they limit themselves to what is obvious. They are like blind men
who encounter an elephant: each one would describe different parts of the elephant, and come to the wrong conclusions about what the elephant looks like.

How unimaginative?!

The tragic thing is that nowadays these lousy ideas are being taught in schools. Modern education is poisoning innocent lives!
 
bro fish,

we can only guide horses to river, can't force it drink the water

also, if heaven so shiok - why everyone don't go now? why wait for "die" then go....
 
You are right. Most supporters of evolutionism never even try to read the 'Origin of Species' and never knew how Darwin used techniques of argument which is not based on science to cut his opposition. His claims are not defensible because not verifiable; full of conjecture, dots unconnected.

His views eroded tremendously the anthropocentricity of Man. Today what is being taught in schools are secretly not supported by those who are in the bastions of academia. These are atheists have an religious agenda to fulfill; and that is to create conditions for the reign of the Anti Christ, who is currently pulling the important strings in worldly affairs from behind the scenes..

The three bad ideas which are currently running amok in this world and which have the pernicious effects on the world of values are: Evolutionism, psychologism, and relativism. These three which stems from materialism and sensorialism give the illusion that 'true heaven is a place on earth.

The proponents and supporters of these pernicious ideas lack imagination because they limit themselves to what is obvious. They are like blind men
who encounter an elephant: each one would describe different parts of the elephant, and come to the wrong conclusions about what the elephant looks like.

How unimaginative?!

The tragic thing is that nowadays these lousy ideas are being taught in schools. Modern education is poisoning innocent lives!

and you chose in imaginary friend in the sky, talking snake, zombie rose from the dead, water to wine, walking on water, talking donkey, man live in fish's stomach etc. over real science?

shessh, some screws are loose in your head.
 
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