WP members visit DAP HQ and Malaysia Parliament

[mustpaycashhhh]

Relax, Mr Marcus Yap, we will give your Holland Drive shop a free publicity blitz pretty soon !

Didn't your monkey friend Andrew Loh tell you the big "present" he received from us ?

I don't issue empty threats. I MEAN every word I say. If I said it, it will happen sooner or later.

LOL !!!

U can do like dat only? Threaten here threaten there hide here hide there?? U r really a LIAR and LOSER!

 

[myjohnson]

You supposedly opposition guys keep arguing about who has more access to a PAP surrogate. DAP was PAP in Malaya until 1965.

*sneer*

Is this to be construed as "Once a whore, always a whore?'

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

I get put off by the M'sian Sin Chew not so much for its admiration of LKY and PAP (which can be nauseating) but more so for their apparent Chinese chauvinism. At the end of the day it appeara to be not much better than the Malay Ultras.

Dear Porifirio

The Malaysian Chinese Press admire LKY for creating a system that works albeit with imperfections. The Chinese there live in a sea of corruption and political intimidation and repeated calls of Malay Supremacy. You will forgive them if they look a little be more fondly across the causeway then the resident cows on this patch of grass. Under this circumstances , LKY and some of his ideals have a real pull. Errrr and before I get slammed by my detractors, here the key word is "some."

Cheers

Locke

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Ok thanks for the clarification, although I am surprised at the timeline (I don't have my old copy of Francis' tartar book with me now). But I would think then it was more to do with his role as Law Society president and how it was apparently being politicised at that time leading to the amendment to the Act regulating the Law society. I don't believe the ISD had any evidence however remote that Francis had links however tenuous with the alleged 'cells'. Afterall Francis was always abit of a dandy and never even known as a do gooder fighting for social justice.:p

On the issue of Anwar's numbers, I was just querying on your observations and insight since you were on the ground as they say. Never mind, but I still think the answer now is self-evident that Anwar was probably playing a psych-war over that period to try and actually get the numbers but probably failed.

Nope. He was arrested for defending Vincent Cheng et al., as President of Law Society and as appointed attorney. After his release, then came the Hernrikson affair. Henrikson was expelled from Singapore. Francis Seow stood for election. The rest, of course, is popular history.


Good observation and question. There's no translation. I think I could understand between a quarter to a third of what transpired, based on my pasar malam malay from growing up in Kampung Arang, not sure about my colleagues. As for Anwar's numbers, I really don't know. We really don't know. We're not going to ask, and neither is he going to tell, isn't it?

 

[one2unite]

I now believe after my recent readings that Lim Chin Siong was probably a communist or under communist influence. Both Devan Nair and the Plen apear to have confirmed as such. Chin Peng seems to suggest that Tan Wah Piow was not a communist. Vincent Cheng appeared to fall under the liberation ideology category that LKY was perturbed over after observing what happened in the Philippines. I don't think LKY claimed that Francis Seow was a communits/marxist. I think Francis fell under the category of being influenced by USA to form an oppo.

"Communist" was the standard label that the departing colonialists used on every genuine nationalist who was opposed to both the political and economic stranglehold of the alien power.

In Singapore the British colonialists anointed Harry Lee as their chosen successor who could protect their economic interests in this part of the region after they had long relinquished their direct political control. Every attempt, including calling LKY's political opponents communist, was used to prop up their "favoured son" Harry as the nationalist.

Over the years, has it not become clear that Lee Kuan Yew has turned Singapore into a bastion for neocons, money launderers, economic criminals wanted in other countries?

The Lee regime is maintaining its grip on power by being an obedient lackey of US imperialism in this part of the world.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

So afterall all that rhetoric what about Lim Chin Siong's status? Were Devan Nair and the Plen, the former a once communist and the latter the United Front point man for Singapore, incorrect?

Btw, if it is said that LKY was "backed" by the British than I would have thought the same label could well have applied to Lim Chin Siong as being "backed" by China which would have turned Singapore into the 3rd China.

"Communist" was the standard label that the departing colonialists used on every genuine nationalist who was opposed to both the political and economic stranglehold of the alien power.

In Singapore the British colonialists anointed Harry Lee as their chosen successor who could protect their economic interests in this part of the region after they had long relinquished their direct political control. Every attempt, including calling LKY's political opponents communist, was used to prop up their "favoured son" Harry as the nationalist.

Over the years, has it not become clear that Lee Kuan Yew has turned Singapore into a bastion for neocons, money launderers, economic criminals wanted in other countries?

The Lee regime is maintaining its grip on power by being an obedient lackey of US imperialism in this part of the world.

 

[cass888]

"Communist" was the standard label that the departing colonialists used on every genuine nationalist who was opposed to both the political and economic stranglehold of the alien power.

In Singapore the British colonialists anointed Harry Lee as their chosen successor who could protect their economic interests in this part of the region after they had long relinquished their direct political control. Every attempt, including calling LKY's political opponents communist, was used to prop up their "favoured son" Harry as the nationalist.

Over the years, has it not become clear that Lee Kuan Yew has turned Singapore into a bastion for neocons, money launderers, economic criminals wanted in other countries?

The Lee regime is maintaining its grip on power by being an obedient lackey of US imperialism in this part of the world.

You're really good at misinformation. Lim Chin Siong's own comrades identified Lim as a communist.

 

[one2unite]

So afterall all that rhetoric what about Lim Chin Siong's status? Were Devan Nair and the Plen, the former a once communist and the latter the United Front point man for Singapore, incorrect?

Btw, if it is said that LKY was "backed" by the British than I would have thought the same label could well have applied to Lim Chin Siong as being "backed" by China which would have turned Singapore into the 3rd China.

Even Harry Lee was called communist by the UMNO "ultras". Devan did not go along with his Middle Road comrades when the breakup came in PAP. He decided to stick with his known British stooge Lee Kuan Yew. The Plen himself had admitted to a number of fatal mistakes.

The British imperialist labelled all and sundry as communist and hoisted up lackeys such as Harry as nationalist. It was a ploy they resorted to in all their colonies where the people were up against their naked exploitation and oppression.

Surprisingly, certain quarters termed the separation of Singapore from Malaysia in 1965 as the birth of Third China!

 

[one2unite]

You're really good at misinformation. Lim Chin Siong's own comrades identified Lim as a communist.

Name them with proofs.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Again after all that rhetoric I once again ask you about Lim Chin Siong's status? Were Devan Nair and the Plen incorrect to claim that Lim was afterall a communist or at the very least under the influence of the communist?

Since you yourself have made comments on Devan Nair, let me add on more from his fascinating interview with Mel Chew on this very same issue. Devan Nair was "converted" from communism while he was held under detention and was the prime mover to get the other big comrades held including Lim Chin Siong to sign off on the renunciation that brokered their release from detention. After being released Devan Nair observed that his comrades including Lim were going back to their roots (back under communist influence) and therefore he told Lee Kuan Yew that he wanted to leave the government and go back to teaching at St Andrews so as not to take sides between Lee and his ex comrades led by Lim. Eventually Lee persuaded Devan to return to help Lee and the rest as they say is history. Again it should be noted that when Devan asserted that Lim Chin Siong was indeed a communist he did so after he fell out with Lee and had left the Istana. So it would appear that Devan's claim maybe objective and unbiased.

FYI I recall either the Plen or Chin Peng stating that James and Dominic Puthucheary were not communists but the Plen definitely implied that Lim Chin siong was communist. From this it is obvious that there was probably a fine line between the communists, under communist influence, communist sympathisers, and left socialists groups. And no doubt Lee Kuan Yew used and manipulated this fine line to neutralise all his political enemies with the communist brush. Well during those days I guess it was "kill" or be killed" although sadly there was also alot collateral damage but I guess that was the nature of the political game at that time.

Even Harry Lee was called communist by the UMNO "ultras". Devan did not go along with his Middle Road comrades when the breakup came in PAP. He decided to stick with his known British stooge Lee Kuan Yew. The Plen himself had admitted to a number of fatal mistakes.

The British imperialist labelled all and sundry as communist and hoisted up lackeys such as Harry as nationalist. It was a ploy they resorted to in all their colonies where the people were up against their naked exploitation and oppression.

Surprisingly, certain quarters termed the separation of Singapore from Malaysia in 1965 as the birth of Third China!

 

[cass888]

Name them with proofs.

Read the Plen yourself. You are the one making wild accusations not backed by evidence.

 

[NamQiong]

Relax, Mr Marcus Yap, we will give your Holland Drive shop a free publicity blitz pretty soon !

Didn't your monkey friend Andrew Loh tell you the big "present" he received from us ?

I don't issue empty threats. I MEAN every word I say. If I said it, it will happen sooner or later.

LOL !!!

Bro, can let me know more details of the shop? PM or email to me can? I will also make sure his shop will get free publicity in STOMP BTW, i send Andrew Moh Lan Yong a nice present yesterday, hope he like it

 

[scroobal]

Nope. He was arrested for defending Vincent Cheng et al., as President of Law Society and as appointed attorney. After his release, then came the Hernrikson affair. Henrikson was expelled from Singapore. Francis Seow stood for election. The rest, of course, is popular history.

Sorry, did not see this earlier. He was indeed arrested for the Hank Hendrickson Affair. He was arrested on May 6 and Hank was expelled the next day.

The link to Hank "unexpectedly" came from from the Marxist Conspiracy investigation. That link was mentioned for the first time publicly during the 60th anniversary of ISD at the Istana this year without details been given.