Chitchat Why Muslims have failed Islam and made it the subject of hate and ridicule.

[whoami]

Hey Muslim bro. Get yr history time frame correctly.

Islam only begin in 425 AD. Every story has a begining with an ending.... then new chapters are written to continue till today.

1. Do u agree without Mohammed there will be no Islam and Allah...

2. How in the Quran was Jesus mentioned in the book....

3. Bible scholars hv studied and reseached the Jesus, the New Testament and Old Testament, for facts...

4. Come on.... why u want to lie when the obvious is told to you about 425AD the begining of Islam...

5. Some Arabs hv found James tribe in Minor Asia, that is ME today.. and told Mohammed of this Ebinonite tribe, James descendant, about Jesus the Son of God.

Stick to yr Quran book and be honest to yr Allah God...

U must get the definition of "Islam" right. Then u will understand those 5 points of urs

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/c...hurch-to-comply-with-social-distancing-rules/

 

[whoami]

"You are judged by your deeds alone" is totally ignored by Muslims. It is repeated multiple times 8n the Quran.
Current Muslims are obsessed with rituals. They seems to think that the more rituals you do, the more merit points you will get which is contradictory to the Quran.

Alamak. Of course we dont expect non muslims like u to agree wat the Quran teaches us. We believe the Quran is the word of Allah. Cukup. But be warned...cos u been told many times not to reject Allah assawajal. No one will escape from Judgement Day.

Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses - We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.

 

[nightsafari]

Most of the religious conflict were due to political agenda.

yes that's half of the story. the other half is how they get the support of people to fight?

 

[nightsafari]

There will come a time u will ask urself wats life all about? Even born Muslim also went astray. So tere is a purpose why we are born into this world. I had mentioned many times No 1 enemy is Shaytan. He had already led billion of mankind astray. Dont take it lightly. I believe the existence of Jinn cos i ever witness it. Whole chapter of Jinn being mentioned in the scripture. It was told 124000 prophets/messengers were sent to the world since Adam was created. Warning been given to mankind by respective Messengers during those era. Tis is a temporary world. U got nothing to lose by believing in God.

Btw just add info. Those who passed away may be punished in the grave for sins as well. Burn in hell r for unforgiven sins. Allah is One. No son No mum. Allah forbid.

I have asked that question for 30 years. I believe my experiences are similar to yours because I have seen things I cannot explain too. More than most people in fact. But my conclusion as to what to follow is radically different from yours. I will not follow fear.

 

[nightsafari]

The greeks probably came with Alexander.
But before that, greeks were mercenaries for Persians too.

yes, I agree. I was merely speculating about the caste system origins...

 

[whoami]

I have asked that question for 30 years. I believe my experiences are similar to yours because I have seen things I cannot explain too. More than most people in fact. But my conclusion as to what to follow is radically different from yours. I will not follow fear.

Yes. Not everythg can be explained in plain words or scientist. But it may be proven/discover yrs later. Just like wat mentioned in the quran 1400 yrs ago scientists just discovered it @100 or 200 yrs ago. Things not seen by naked eyes doesnt mean it dont exist. Can be proven in many ways. U say u dont believe in jinn. But i willing to prove to u? But u dont seems willing to accept the offer. Not say u ya. Cos u r quite honest in ur postg. But lots of keyboard warrior here. Stereotype. Say tis n tat. But in reality they have no balls.

If u follow the commandment...y shld u fear? Bear tis in mind the power of shaytan very strong. See...he already influence mankind not to fear God.

 

[whoami]

yes that's half of the story. the other half is how they get the support of people to fight?

Even without religion the ruler can still influence/command their subjects to fight

 

[syed putra]

Even without religion the ruler can still influence/command their subjects to fight

Romans can only rule certain parts of Europe without religion. But when they created Roman Catholic church, they conquered half the world.

 

[syed putra]

If u follow the commandment...y shld u fear? Bear tis in mind the power of shaytan very strong. See...he already influence mankind not to fear God

So you follow anyhow because you fear Instead of trying to discover other avenues. And that is the problem here.

 

[JohnTan]

So you follow anyhow because you fear Instead of trying to discover other avenues. And that is the problem here.

People follow fear because they have to earn their salvation. They follow fear and obey rituals because they know their god is always angry with them, will never forgive their sins and rules their heart with threats and blackmail. How can their hearts ever be pure when they follow a bandit and excuse all of his misdeeds simply because they believe he's a prophet? If any of us did the same, we would be branded as criminals.

Muhammad and his Companions soon engaged in a series of caravan raids. These raids were generally offensive[6] and carried out to gather intelligence or seize the trade goods of caravans financed by the Quraysh, (such retaliation was explained as being legitimate by saying many Muslims' possessions and wealth - left behind when they migrated from Mecca - were stolen).[7][8] The Muslims declared that the raids were justified and that God gave them permission to defend against the Meccans' persecution of Muslims.[9][10] Another reason for the raids appears to have been economic stress, as the food output of Medina was barely capable of feeding the Muslim newcomers. Hence, the raiding of food was mandatory to supplement their diet.[11]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_career_of_Muhammad

 

[nirvarq]

Christians and Muslim are of the same Aramaic roots but branch out to conveniently cater to the higher educated and middle range and the more primitive minds.

Same like Buddhism there's Mahāyāna which is 大乘佛法 has deep esoteric studies for manifesting, visualising and creation works you become Bomohs/High Priest/ Healers/Spiritual Masters/Adepts or Ashura status and there is simple Hinayana Buddhism which is 小乘佛法 for the common folks no need studies just pray and gives 'offerings' asking for protection.

Esoteric or Energy/Vibration/Chakras/Chi or 'Nature' studies is the highest and hardest to balance and acquire it means Oneness and Unity within diversities.

Next is Love ie what Christians base on and last but not least is Fear based. Like this Covid episode if everyone are like SamBoss this entire Covid scare will not work.

Esoteric
/ˌɛsəˈtɛrɪk,ˌiːsəˈtɛrɪk/
adjective
1. intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people with a specialized knowledge (High IQ or at least, higher educations) or interest.
"esoteric philosophical debates"


Religions or Spiritual knowledge are suppose to be 'enlightening' but because since history we alter the scriptures to our own needs and later become politicized and now they're mainly instruments used to control the masses and for creating separations to create wars among our people it's just Dogmas.

In truth it's mind over matter and not the other way around though this is a very focused 3rd density experienced the basis or core is still energy is still Consciousness. Matter is an illusion hence the saying nothing was ever really created there was nothing in the beginning how can anything be created.

Also you've heard 'Energy' cannot be created or destroy why ? */hint because it was not real in the first place just an illusion.

Everything is connected to everything else just like in a computer programme hence when you sneeze the farthest Star moved is actually truth. What you have not fathom or grasp is 'Infinity'. intelligent infinity.

Ra: Awareness led to the focus of infinity into infinite energy. You have called this by various vibrational sound complexes, the most common to your ears being “Logos” or “Love.” The Creator is the focusing of infinity as an aware or conscious principle called by us as closely as we can create understanding/learning in your language, intelligent infinity.
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[duluxe]

did I say that? I said every religion needs pride and prejudice to exist. I do not follow religion(s) because of this. I prefer to be good without resorting to pride or prejudice.


If I so something self-harmful to prove something I believe is unnecessary, what's the point? I'm not eating glass to satisfy something I don't believe in. Might as well ask all the religious people to shoot themselves in the head to prove existence.

you know. let me ask you this. what is so wrong with trying to simply live a good life without following anyone? Must follow or will burn in hell?

Don't be fool by his gimmick. The whoami m&d, deep down in his heart he believes Coronavirus is for infidels. But in reality, muslims and clerics are dying from coronavirus contracted during prayer gathering. He believes he is cleaned and will go heaven but in reality he will go nowhere. m&ds depend on Islam to give them the feel good factors against better races.

 

[whoami]

So you follow anyhow because you fear Instead of trying to discover other avenues. And that is the problem here.

Why would i want to follow other religion when i already discovered the true path, imo.

 

[whoami]

Romans can only rule certain parts of Europe without religion. But when they created Roman Catholic church, they conquered half the world.

Tis one u have to ask the xtians.

 

[whoami]

Religions or Spiritual knowledge are suppose to be 'enlightening' but because since history we alter the scriptures to our own needs and later become politicized and now they're mainly instruments used to control the masses and for creating separations to create wars among our people it's just Dogmas.

I understand the Communist regime under whinnie the poohs trying to revise the Holy Quran to suit his communist agenda. Haha....he tink he is god...trying to change God's word? The original message (Quran) will never be erased from the surface of the earth.

 

[tanwahtiu]

Bro. Same as Christianity, they spread love of Jesus preaching NT Matthew, Luke, Mark and John all the time. They dont go into Judges, Solomon the sex part, prophets....

After a while u get bored with their preaching. Anyone can preach a beautiful love story and Hollywood goes further a whore marries a rich butcher bastard going round biz killing companies buyvthem for dirt cheap.

Arent u Not bored qith Iman breaching love All the Time...

Sex on Demand better... prepare for sex is sexciting...

If u talk about the Malays, frankly most of us here in spore knew about the evil deeds of the terrorists the like of ISIS. We do not support and do strongly condemn terrorism as mentioned many times in the Quran.

As for Imams and as most of u know the sermons are all prepared by MUIS in Spore. Even if they arent prepared by Muis, most of the sermons were all about becoming a better Muslims, responsibility towards parents and the community.

As for Malays in Msia or Indon, i cant comment much but only to say those countries are big especially Indon. Its not easy to monitor or control some of the extremist Islamic group tere. Most are backward, jobless. They would do anything just to survive. Tats where some political parties would take advantage of those group. And they are many by the millions. Yes, most are Muslims poor and uneducated and easily sway by extremists Imam who also double up as warlords. Very complicated if were to discuss about Indon politics.

 

[tanwahtiu]

Stick to old fashion text suited for that era dont work in digital age anymore. If I were you move on...

I find Scientology interesting from the engineers.... more logical thinking....

I give u an example what the engineer say. .

U saw a dead crocoache on the floor today.... and leave it alone and leave the kitchen...

10 days later u go back to the same kitchen and the same dead crocoache is still there...

What is yr logical in the first instance?

U wld probably say that dead crocoache died 10 days ago.... do you agree more?

But a dead insect or anything with no life has no time put on it, like table and chairs too.

It is you that live 10 days more...

So whats the moral of the story, compare to Jesus and Mohammed.

A dead Jesus and Mohammed has no time frame put on them. It is the living ones that is timed.

So the Book of Bible and Book of Quran was written donkeys years ago. They are dead things with no timed frame. As such u move on with the time frame until u die...

U can only reminiscent of the past but their Words are not for u to take it literally to the presence today...

The law has to change too. Books of Bible and Quran are merely law book... to righteousness...


Tioboh hope this helps

Psst...psst...if you like my bullshit click the like button.

I understand the Communist regime under whinnie the poohs trying to revise the Holy Quran to suit his communist agenda. Haha....he tink he is god...trying to change God's word? The original message (Quran) will never be erased from the surface of the earth.

 

[whoami]

Bro. Same as Christianity, they spread love of Jesus preaching NT Matthew, Luke, Mark and John all the time. They dont go into Judges, Solomon the sex part, prophets....

After a while u get bored with their preaching. Anyone can preach a beautiful love story and Hollywood goes further a whore marries a rich butcher bastard going round biz killing companies buyvthem for dirt cheap.

Arent u Not bored qith Iman breaching love All the Time...

Sex on Demand better... prepare for sex is sexciting...

Since the foundg of xtianity (but xtianity not found in the bible) Xtians spread too much love to the extent of causing havoc in the ME. Till now still spreading "love" in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc, etc. When was the last time u see Muslim countries invading non muslim countries to spread Islam?

 

[whoami]

Stick to old fashion text suited for that era dont work in digital age anymore. If I were you move on...

I find Scientology interesting from the engineers.... more logical thinking....

I give u an example what the engineer say. .

U saw a dead crocoache on the floor today.... and leave it alone and leave the kitchen...

10 days later u go back to the same kitchen and the same dead crocoache is still there...

What is yr logical in the first instance?

U wld probably say that dead crocoache died 10 days ago.... do you agree more?

But a dead insect or anything with no life has no time put on it, like table and chairs too.

It is you that live 10 days more...

So whats the moral of the story, compare to Jesus and Mohammed.

A dead Jesus and Mohammed has no time frame put on them. It is the living ones that is timed.

So the Book of Bible and Book of Quran was written donkeys years ago. They are dead things with no timed frame. As such u move on with the time frame until u die...

U can only reminiscent of the past but their Words are not for u to take it literally to the presence today...

The law has to change too. Books of Bible and Quran are merely law book... to righteousness...


Tioboh hope this helps

Psst...psst...if you like my bullshit click the like button.

Ahem...tats wat happened to the bible. They kip adding n removg the words of god. Who give them the authority to re-edit the scripture?

As for the Quran...most of wat mentioned in the scripture still applicable to present century.

 

[tanwahtiu]

Do u know how many times Quran was edited?

Ahem...tats wat happened to the bible. They kip adding n removg the words of god. Who give them the authority to re-edit the scripture?

As for the Quran...most of wat mentioned in the scripture still applicable to present century.