Serious Traitor Yang Challenges Good Ministers Shan And Vivian To Sue Him In UK! Bayi Lawyer Pondering About Mareva Injunction Like Against Wanker Tang!

[A Singaporean]

Lee Hsien Yang has open a loophole in POFMA, moi going to go Brazil and slander PAP from Brazil. and i will challenge PAP to sue me in Brazil

Everytime you travel, you can fuck the CAQ.

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

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By Tan Kin Lian

I have a personal experience of being threatened with a defamation suit. This occurred about 15 years ago and involved a land banking company. I had republished in my blog an article that appeared in a British newspaper which described the activities of the company in cheating the investors in Singapore.

The lawyer acting for that company made several demands that were excessive and unreasonable. I dragged on the matter over several months. The company finally stopped pursuing the matter.

The directors of that land banking company were later charged and convicted by the court for cheating several hundreds of investors. The allegations turned out to be true.

Over the years I have seen how rich and powerful people who can afford to engage expensive lawyers used this outdated and unjust law to bully their opponents and ordinary people. I find it unjust and deplorable.

I consider it the duty of the law minister to update the law on defamation to make the process fairer for ordinary people who do not want to spend a fortune or are not able to afford the expensive lawyers to defend themselves against unjust defamation suits.

This has not happened. I deplore the current state of affairs.

In the current case where two ministers threatened to sue Lee Hsien Yang for defamation over his post on the Ridout bungalows, my sympathies are with Hsien Yang. I opine that the alleged defamation is far fetched and unjust.


This was first published by Tan Kin Lian on his Facebook page.

Tan Kin Lian is a Singaporean business executive and political figure. He served as the CEO of NTUC Income for three decades and notably ran as a Presidential candidate in Singapore’s 2011 elections.

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

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London Is The Libel Capital Of The World And Shanmugam And Vivian Should Not Hesitate To Sue Lee Hsien Yang There.
The laws of defamation originated in England during the 17th century.
There are legions of barristers in the Inns of Court who specialise in defamation including renown King’s Counsel. Lee Kuan Yew and JB Jeyaretnam used to engage the best QCs for their defamation battles in Singapore-Robert Alexander QC, John Mortimer QC, George Carmen QC and Charles Gray QC.
London is well-known as the libel capital of the world and every year scores of well known celebrities, oligarchs etc file writs in the English High Court to vindicate their reputations. These claimants include many foreign ones,who put their trust in the fairness of the English judicial system to see that justice is done.
Lee Hsien Yang has already publicly declared that he made his post in the UK. The English High Court therefore has jurisdiction to hear any libel suits Shanmugam and Vivian may wish to file against him.In fact,London would be the natural forum for any dispute resolution.What more can both of them ask for? Each party can hire the best King’s Counsel to represent them.They will have the most experienced libel judges in the World hear the case. These judges are specialist defamation judges.
Let any battle royale take place in the Royal Courts of Justice in the Strand and let justice be done!

 

[A Singaporean]

No one, absolutely NO ONE is Above the Law in Singapore, a Nation RULED by Law. EACH citizen is accountable for their own actions, deeds & words, even top politicians whom are dependent upon votes to remain in power or else some other party will rule & administer the Nation. Thus each must be circumspect in their dealings & interaction with others.

However, we are Humans first above any differences that sets us apart, such as religion, skin color, age, etc, etc. AND we are Asians, with traditional values & not some emotionless robots.

The issue between Mr LSY & his brother PM Lee is a private matter - over legal issues pertaining to our revered Founding Father the late Mr Lee Kuan Yew's WILL. It resulted that Mr LSY ran away to another country than to resolve this matter under Rule of Law, which is the ROOT of the issue, and making matters worse - taking unfounded & unsubstantiated pot shots at ELECTED ministers. It will only eventually lead matters getting out of hand, in his personal quest to clear his name.

No one would like to see a son of our revered Founding Father Mr LKY clasped in chains, nor does even his brother PM Lee, more so over a private legal issue, as we are still traditional Asians whom value family ties. No doubt there was criminal dishonesty, but it is NOT a capital crime, & will only eventually lead to such if matters are not resolved. allowing it to get out of hand & blown out of proportion by enemies, the incompetents & the insane.

Perhaps, we can resolve the root issues of this personal feud between brothers of our revered Founding Father Mr. LKY, the traditional Asian way - thru mediation. Find someone whom both can trust, & get him to discuss with them over several meetings, & try to smooth things over thru honest compromises. As the root issue is a private dispute, it need not spill over to the public & political sphere where matters can get out of hand & out of proportion.

Suggest you stick to writing plays and leave the legal interpretation to the sexperts. By the way he is LHY and not LSY.

 

[ChinaCommunistSG]

Tiagong Lee Hsien Yang passport is expiring end of this year

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

if like that, then how ? :(

 

[LexLuthor]

Tiagong Lee Hsien Yang passport is experiencing end of this year

Expiring.

 

[batman1]

Tiagong Lee Hsien Yang passport is expiring end of this year

He can renew his passport at the Singapore Embassy in UK.

 

[ChinaCommunistSG]

He can renew his passport at the Singapore Embassy in UK.

Do you think they will give him renewal ?

 

[batman1]

Do you think they will give him renewal ?

Yes. No reason not to renew his passport.

 

[steffychun]

@JohnTan is thw traior work with CCP and CECA.

 

[LexLuthor]

He can renew his passport at the Singapore Embassy in UK.

It's High Commission, Bro.

 

[LexLuthor]

Lawyer Lim Tean is activated

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Lim Tean is saying the Black Mambas "should" sue LHY in UK because it's the place where the tort was committed.

Lim Tean is not saying the Black Mambas "can only" sue LHY in UK. So let us not get too excited. One of the Black Mambas is a First Class Honours in Law, and he obviously knows what he is doing.

There are two issues - choice of forum (which is what this entire thread is about) and choice of law.

This is followed by a 3rd issue - who decides the choice of forum and choice of law ? If Black Mambas file a Writ of Summons in Singapore, who then decides which is the right forum to sue ? And who decides if UK law or Singapore defamation law is applicable ?

If the Writ of Summons is filed in the Courts of Singapore, surely it's the discretion of the Courts of Singapore to decide if they are willing to hear the case. If they are not prepared to hear the case because they think Singapore is not the proper forum, then they will throw out the case. You think the Singapore Courts will do that ?

This is not a case about the Black Mambas slithering in the streets of London and accidentally fell into a manhole that was not properly maintained by the Westminster City Council. If it was, then the Black Mambas would have no choice but to sue the Westminster City Council in London because BOTH the tort and the damage suffered were at the same location.

We are now in the age of Internet with no geographical borders when a potentially defamatory statement is published on social media. And let us not forget that the potential Defendant is still a Singaporean with a permanent address in Singapore, and the content of the alleged libel relates to events in Singapore, and in Singapore only, namely Ridout in Singapore, SLA of Singapore, CPIB of Singapore and etc.

The Courts of Singapore are entitled to consider the rights and liabilities that arise from the defamatory matter in a Facebook post should be determined by the law of the country with the most significant relationship with the parties and the communication or where the potential Plaintiffs suffer greatest injury to their reputation.

So Lim Tean should not be so cocksure by saying LHY is "absolutely right" just because the alleged defamatory post was made in UK. It will only undermine his credibility when the Courts of Singapore finally accept Singapore as a proper forum to hear the case and applying Singapore defamation laws.

 

[k1976]

Prince Yang explain liao.... It is a miscommunication

 

[k1976]

Lim Tean is saying the Black Mambas "should" sue LHY in UK because it's the place where the tort was committed.

Lim Tean is not saying the Black Mambas "can only" sue LHY in UK. So let us not get too excited. One of the Black Mambas is a First Class Honours in Law, and he obviously knows what he is doing.

There are two issues - choice of forum (which is what this entire thread is about) and choice of law.

This is followed by a 3rd issue - who decides the choice of forum and choice of law ? If Black Mambas file a Writ of Summons in Singapore, who then decides which is the right forum to sue ? And who decides if UK law or Singapore defamation law is applicable ?

If the Writ of Summons is filed in the Courts of Singapore, surely it's the discretion of the Courts of Singapore to decide if they are willing to hear the case. If they are not prepared to hear the case because they think Singapore is not the proper forum, then they will throw out the case. You think the Singapore Courts will do that ?

This is not a case about the Black Mambas slithering in the streets of London and accidentally fell into a manhole that was not properly maintained by the Westminster City Council. If it was, then the Black Mambas would have no choice but to sue the Westminster City Council in London because BOTH the tort and the damage suffered were at the same location.

We are now in the age of Internet with no geographical borders when a potentially defamatory statement is published on social media. And let us not forget that the potential Defendant is still a Singaporean with a permanent address in Singapore, and the content of the alleged libel relates to events in Singapore, and in Singapore only, namely Ridout in Singapore, SLA of Singapore, CPIB of Singapore and etc.

The Courts of Singapore are entitled to consider the rights and liabilities that arise from the defamatory matter in a Facebook post should be determined by the law of the country with the most significant relationship with the parties and the communication or where the potential Plaintiffs suffer greatest injury to their reputation.

So Lim Tean should not be so cocksure by saying LHY is "absolutely right" just because the alleged defamatory post was made in UK. It will only undermine his credibility when the Courts of Singapore finally accept Singapore as a proper forum to hear the case and applying Singapore defamation laws.

Why u bijar lobang?

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

Tiagong , lawyers for KS and VB are back in Office today a Sunday.

Indeed, they believe they have a real case.

 

[k1976]

Must be sinki feel the almightness of Good Hands

 

[k1976]

Tiagong , lawyers for KS and VB are back in Office today a Sunday.

Indeed, they believe they have a real case.

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Wow.. . PRINCE Yang must send his wife to defend liao

 

[Leckmichamarsch]

Was there a D Nair suit on Canada?

 

[tanwahtiu]

Let's ALL calm down & be rational.

So far, it had only been a war of words. Our Courts had seen no applications made to sue Mr. LSY. There really is no need to upscale the rhetoric, more so when there are FAR MORE urgent matters to deal in Singapore - rising food & medical costs, BTO concerns, climate change, leadership handover, etc, etc. Equally, Mr LSY is now a private citizen, but still a son of our revered founding father the late Mr LKY, who is now residing outside Singapore for fear of responding to our Court's findings over his matter of honesty in the handling of his father's Will.

As he is living outside, he presumed he is unanswerable to any Court charges or requests for assistance into investigations in Singapore. He does not realize that if our govt wishes to pursue matters of criminal dishonesty or civil charges, it DOES have the LEGAL ability to do so, wherever he hides in. The insignificant nobody me thanks him for his past years of service to our country, good or bad with mistakes made, as I believe he only acted out in presumed good faith as no mortal is perfect & hopes he live a fruitful life. He needs not respond anymore & live a quiet life instead.

However, he chose to respond, even worse, with challenges amounting to defamation to our ELECTED officials & cast doubts upon our judiciary & system of governance of which he was a member till he had been found out to be dishonest in his dealing, over a private matter & worse, made a mountain out of a mole hill. It did not stop there. He wants to cast aspersion upon our ministers WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE, but only based upon hearsay from others & mainstream media whom EQUALLY did not support their accusations with ANY EVIDENCE.

He had been respected by many as a General in our Military. He had undeniably serve our country well, or as best as he could. But with accusations upon our leadership WITHOUT any evidences, he had only proven that it is a personal vendetta against OUR elected officials & govt, for his own selfish interests instead of for the welfare of our citizens.

If he truly is working on behalf of Singapore & citizens, that his father had worked tirelessly for, then he is welcomed back to face criticisms courageously in any form, as his father did, & PROVE WITH EVIDENCES that indeed there had been wrong doings within the govt, If not, then I wish him all the best to live a quiet life, & learn to control his presumed unsubstantiated misgivings in life.

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