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i have my own parable as well; bell curve grading of human populations. some are generally less intelligent than others. some are of average intelligence and some are of higher intelligence. Some are stupid, willing to listen to supernatural stories and ignore facts and reasoning, some have some religious beliefs but will consider scientific facts and reasoning, and the last category are purely on facts, reasoning and they can think far better than the rest.

so which category do you fall into? i know u are NOT in the higher end of the curve.

How do you know that you are not trying to mesmerise yourself into drunkeness and look into a fog and say to yourself that you are handsome but yet everyone is afraid of answering you with that statement. Everyone has some form of stupidity in some way. But, look at the way you put it. Can anyone with a sound can say that you are right ? Science sometimes claimed wrong things. And then, they will erase and rewrite and erase and ... to what end is that consider as the truth which you claim they are ? Or are you still drunken in the day while looking at an old, ugly woman in stupor and claim that she's a beautiful princess ?

Use wisdom, my friend ! Sorry hor, not many possess this. Only the best of the best will get it.

And wisdom can only be given to you from a higher being. I must say, not all statements of wisdom from any so-called sages are applicable because you still have to use some godly wisdom to tell what will be advantageous and what's not. The results are often clear.
 
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please stop deluding yourself. i know singapore education isnt up to scratch to educate the general population on science and critical thinking, but at least you can do some independetn research for yourself. As i mention to that delusional psalm23, fossiel fuel and coal have been carboned dated to >150 million years. my phd civil engineering researcher friend who worked at the CISRO confirmed this verbally, apart from many other scientists, researchers and engineers around the world that work on mining. Mining is big business in australia, and my colleagues are experts in geology.

then what about your ancestor's religion? why did you abandon the worship of jade emperor, kwan yin, su mukong for a western god? why did you betray your ancestors?

your understanding about evolution is very poor. man dont evolute from apes, man, apes and chimps evolve from the same primate! if you want to learn about evolution, i willl be happy to send you some links. And stop watching those delusional creationists videos like ken ham. we all know he is a redneck fruitcake from qld.

so you say you are a descendent from an angmoh Adam and your ancestral mother is ang moh Eve.. how come you are an asian? did your ancestor happen to hump with an ape?

Dear Gorilla-Fishbuff,

So, you think you have a very good understanding of evolution? Could you therefore just help answer one question: How then could life be evolved out of non-life? How could a rock turned into a living thing? No scientist can and have ever answer this question.

Coal has been here for >150 million years...you see the problem with all these claims are the always used number that can never be truly understood by people...do you really understand how long is 150 million years....it's very long...yes, everybody know it. How about 70 - 100 million years? It's is just as long...Question for you: How then could the bones of dinosaurs, presumably, died 70 - 100 million years ago still fully intact, and there are countless of these full-size dino fossils around the world? Everyone knows bones are very strong, but they are still organic and we know organic substances decay. In spite of this decay, still after 70 - 100 million years, the bones are still completely intact? Anyone with commonsense will tell you that cannot be. In fact, evolutions when confronted with this question, they cannot offer any answer. So, can you?

There are some interesting fact about oil and coal. Go and do further research and you will find some shocking and amazing facts of coal and fossil fuel like oil. They don't need to take 150 millions of years to turn from decay fossil into oil. The pressure below the earth is so huge that you just need few thousand years to furn fossil into coal and oil.

Ancestor worship - please go and check the history of ancestor worship. This ritual is modelled based on Confucian's ideal. Before Confucian came out with the ideal, there wasn't any evidence of ancestor worship. Yes. We need to honour our parents, our grandparents - whether they are alive or they are dead. But to worship them and hope that their spirits can bring 'luck', 'peace', etc....this is not taught by Confucian. Honouring parents and grandparents and our ancestors are very good practice for families because during the events of honouring or remembering them, families are gathered together. How often can relatives come together? But because of the idolatry nature of human, many take it further step and started to pervert the practices by creating their own ideas.. Just go and do further research on ancestor worship and you will disccover some shocking truth about the practices that are nothing more than man-made form of idol worship.
 
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Dear Gorilla-Fishbuff,
So, you think you have a very good understanding of evolution? Could you therefore just help answer one question: How then could life be evolved out of non-life?

Answer to this can be easily found in any undergraduate year 1 textbook. What rock turn into living things, only dumb ass like you will think of such thing.

In spite of this decay, still after 70 - 100 million years, the bones are still completely intact? Anyone with commonsense will tell you that cannot be. In fact, evolutions when confronted with this question, they cannot offer any answer. So, can you?

GONG CHEE BYE, those bone undergoes mineralisation under high pressure thus become fossil. that why do not decay, cannot answer your lan jiao ass. that why we have things like diamond that are formed under high pressure stupid fuck. this is a fucking common phenominon. cannot ans your lan jiao ass. making up stupid story on your own again. fuck your mother and wife phua chee bye. decay is a process that need bacteria, in certain condition where it cannot survive, how to decay? decay what shit? gong chee bye

There are some interesting fact about oil and coal. Go and do further research and you will find some shocking and amazing facts of coal and fossil fuel like oil. They don't need to take 150 millions of years to turn from decay fossil into oil. The pressure below the earth is so huge that you just need few thousand years to furn fossil into coal and oil.

fuck you, this the first time i ever heard it in nature it only take few thousand years. From your own imagination again? chee bye kia, PUI. to justify your delusion you can restort to spread such lies. FUCK YOUR WIFE PHUA CHEE BYE

Ancestor worship - please go and check the history of ancestor worship. This ritual is modelled based on Confucian's ideal. Before Confucian came out with the ideal, there wasn't any evidence of ancestor worship.

uneducated gong chee bye, that is all i can say

First evidence of ancestor worship can be traced back to almost 300, 000 years ago, performed Neanderthal and homo-sapians of stone age. this can be easily seen from burial sites discovered.

Conclusion: you are really a Gong chee bye.
 
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Answer to this can be easily found in any undergraduate year 1 textbook. What rock turn into living things, only dumb ass like you will think of such thing.



GONG CHEE BYE, those bone undergoes mineralisation under high pressure thus become fossil. that why do not decay, cannot answer your lan jiao ass. that why we have things like diamond that are formed under high pressure stupid fuck. this is a fucking common phenominon. cannot ans your lan jiao ass. making up stupid story on your own again. fuck your mother and wife phua chee bye. decay is a process that need bacteria, in certain condition where it cannot survive, how to decay? decay what shit? gong chee bye



fuck you, this the first time i ever heard it in nature it only take few thousand years. From your own imagination again? chee bye kia, PUI. to justify your delusion you can restort to spread such lies. FUCK YOUR WIFE PHUA CHEE BYE

uneducated gong chee bye, that is all i can say

First evidence of ancestor worship can be traced back to almost 300, 000 years ago, performed Neanderthal and homo-sapians of stone age. this can be easily seen from burial sites discovered.

Conclusion: you are really a Gong chee bye.


Dear Ah-Lian-Ah-Soh Scientist (???) Rojak,

Welcome back....so, you have not learnt your lesson...men are not born stupid, they are made stupid by education. You still can remember who said this?

Mineralisation of bones.....first time I heard....that's rubbish....high pressure can preserve substances....what nonsense! Anything subject to high pressure will be destroyed....another point...after 70 - 100 millions of years, you mean the earth has no movement over these periods of time? Unless the earth was in complete 'stillness', otherwise how could they be so many .... in thousands of dinosaur bones of complete skeletal structure found all over the world, and many dino eggs found beside them. You mean high pressure pressure those eggs and they just look so new, look like hatched few days ago! To begin with, geology still cannot come to an agreement of how the earth looked like 70 - 100 million years ago. 70 - 100 millions years ago...you have all these 7 continents; 70 -100 million years ago? The earth is shifting and moving all the time, though not detectable under normal circumstances except during a major earthquake. So, how could there be so many ....thousands upon thousands of dino bones and eggs found? Because of the earth movements, the bones and the dino eggs would simply disperse.or crush. And granted that your rubbish logic of mineralization works, the skeletal structure shouldn't have been perserved so well. This is pure simple logic.

One of the reasons why some scientists believe that fossil fuel like coal, oil and gas were formed as a result of high pressure over million of years is because they did not factor into the biblical truth of the great flood. The fossil fuels were formed during and after the flood where the vegetation during the pre-flood period was very different from today. Rojak Scientist (???), you see the vegetation, the grass, the trees that geologists see today is based on what you see now and they assume they were the same 70 - 100 million years ago. But the vegetations during the pre-flood day (which was just 5,000 or 6,000 years ago) was very different. Commonsense tells us that the vegetations were of gigantic one and this was dinosaurs by and large are vegan and each dino must have the need to consume kilos and kilos of vegetations every day to survive. They were not like cow or sheep that eat only tiny grass (I mean relatively speaking to the what dinosaurs eat). Can you just imagine you put a dino in a grassfield? I think within a week or even less, it could turn the grassland into a desert. So, the size of the vegetation was very different from today, and thse vegetations collapsed because of the flood provided all the 'raw' materials for making the fossil fuel.

So, the explanation is simple. The flood cause a complete collapse of the huge vegatation and because of the extreme hug pressure generated by the trillion, upon trillion tons of moving water, these vegatation together with other organic substances became the raw material for fossil fuel. it is not uncommon to find marine fossils such as fish and other marine animals and in some cases exceptionally well preserved plant, fossliised tree trunks and animal fossils - both marine and non-marine. How could they be found together? Fish don't live on trees?

Hope you have learnt another lesson that is concerning coal and fossil fuel formation besides the invisibilty of atoms, DNA, sound, electricity, plasma. You have a long way to go.....keep learning...I too have a long way to go...I learning too. And only the Bible and God can be our best teachers. No other textbook and no other people can.

Any diamonds...oh yes....I can tell you more about this......right on earth here, diamonds are girls (and also boys) best 'friend' but they are useless in the Kingdom of God....You will be shocked to find out more about this....let me not load you with more information ....for the time being just stick to you understanding coal first....ok, Rojak Scientist (???)
 
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first time hear? why am i not surprised coming from a stupid idiot like yourself. there is no need to talk so much cock on this. it all got to do with phase changes. can understand a not is your dai ji. stupid ass like you of course cannot get it. u bo tak ceh my fault? uneducated gong chee bye. of cos you dunno la, you psle also don't know got pass a not knn.

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To any undergraduate in year 1, this is the phase diagram i have to show and everyone will understand the process. to a gong chee bye like you....i doubt you understand it LOL

gong chee bye ah gong chee bye. shake head.

i have no fucking idea why you bring in plates tectonic movement in. its so slow and its only affecting the boundaries. you are talking as if animals then are dumb, only lived in plates boundaries. you really have zero common sense

factor great flood into consideration? HAHHAHAHA YOU ARE ASKING US TO BELIEVE IN FAIRY TALES HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA. hai ..... you are really a joke. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAA

IQ of a christain = zero
 
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Dear Ah-Lian-Ah-Soh Scientist (???) Rojak,

Welcome back....so, you have not learnt your lesson...men are not born stupid, they are made stupid by education. You still can remember who said this?

wow.. you must be those >50s and without a tertiary education. no wonder you have the acute shortage of critical thinking.
 
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stupid by education LOL...still got hope...

BORN STUPID AND BELIEVE WHATEVER SHIT IN THE BIBLE IS REAL FUCKING NO HOPE

HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
 
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we have an idiot that really think such a great flood took place before in merely say 6000 years ago? and yet we do not have a single concluding evidences of such great flood occurring from rocks formation or any official historical records of other great civlisation - Chinese records never has it, India history as well as far as i know. Egypt has no record of it too.

Side track a bit when we mentioned Egypt. the most funny thing concerning the bible is this, in proper historical records of Egypt, zero accounts in ancient poems or verses ever mentioned the name moses, which is near impossible if we considered what he had done in Egypt according to the bible. It only points to one thing, its just a fairy tale.

yet we have an idiot that think whatever shit written on this book is real
 
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we have an idiot that really think such a great flood took place before in merely say 6000 years ago? and yet we do not have a single concluding evidences of such great flood occurring from rocks formation or any official historical records of other great civlisation - Chinese records never has it, India history as well as far as i know. Egypt has no record of it too.

Side track a bit when we mentioned Egypt. the most funny thing concerning the bible is this, in proper historical records of Egypt, zero accounts in ancient poems or verses ever mentioned the name moses, which is near impossible if we considered what he had done in Egypt according to the bible. It only points to one thing, its just a fairy tale.

yet we have an idiot that think whatever shit written on this book is real

how can one bulid a big ship and dump all the different kind of animals in the world in it ...it dont make any sense at all . only that gong kia believe in it ...if his story book says that hes invisibleman fart can turn all things to gold he also will believe . if his wife suddenly got pregnant without him screwing her ..he will still think its possible cause he believe virgin mary also kena pregnant without sex . lets fuck his wife in raw and he will be fuckin happy that god send him a child ;)
 
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Interestingly, everyone talks about this : why should this man be killed so treacherously or why she had a cancer when she's in her teen and studying at RJC ? Even my mom asked this too.

Men are borne into this world to be affected or subjected to the elements of this world. In the bible, it also mentioned about the vanity of men who pursue certain things in life and yet all will eventually go to the same place whether you are successful or not, rich or poor, strong or weak.

Now, people say the gorillas are the closest relative to men instead of the chimps. This is the creation errors of human beings - rejects.



Adam was different, he was the handmade Ferrari with a special design. But, a car is still a car anyway. Even, he didn't succeed in doing what God's had intended to use him for. What the heck ! I think it was a stupid plan from what I see.

what nonsense you are spilling !
[1] Men are borne into this world to be affected or subjected to the elements of this world.
this is just a general statement. it apply to everyone and any belief.
or are you saying that this is a teaching from the bible only ?

[2] The prince of India asked this before and he got some kind of 'enlightenment' which I have no knowledge of what he was preaching anyway. Assuming, he came out with his own understanding or theory.

i supposed you are referring to the Buddha. In fact is teaching is very simple to understand and yet you claimed " I have no knowledge of what he was preaching anyway " . Either you did not read His teaching or you just simply refused to accept it.

and this is the most stupid thing that you said :
[3] Now, people say the gorillas are the closest relative to men instead of the chimps. This is the creation errors of human beings - rejects.
first , you believed god created human and everything and you also believed that this god is powerful and perfect.
next , you slapped yourself by saying a perfect god can made error while creating the human.


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I don't understand why you people keep saying 'angmoh' ... OMG ! Are you sure ? This is a typical Sinkies' or general saying when they do not understand who the Jews were. See, your lack of knowledge in this aspect is already a minus point for some people who can now confirm your claims are subjective and probably biased.

Anyway, it does not matter whether it was a Chinese or an Indian or a 'angmoh' origin of the so-called Kuan Yin and the monkey god worships. Men in the past were either superstitious (fearing the spirits' vengeance) of such common practices and they were afraid of being ostracised by their own community if they didn't follow the believed procedures which might bring bad luck to the village.

In short, there will always be unbelievers. Ranting will not help.


{{ This is a typical Sinkies' or general saying when they do not understand who the Jews were. }}

woh woah ,
didn't know that you understand who the Jews were ?
or you just claimed that you know ?

if you really know who the Jews are you won't be a christain !!!

the jews has their own religion called Judaism, and what you called christain is a corrupted copy it.

Judasim exists long before some men invented christainudity.

in judasim , the meaning of 'son of god' refers to anyone who is born as a Jew and only a Jew can practise Judasim.
that's why up till now you don't see other race in Judasim.

some men conveniently pasted this label on Jesus when they creating christainudity.
centuries later , fools just take it to be the gospel truth.

what is in bible and the book of this name and book of that name are found in the judasim teaching as proof by the Dead Sea scroll (also know as the Nag Hammadi Scrolls). This is hard fact that cannot be denied , yet certain people refused to accept the evidence.
 
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what nonsense you are spilling !
[1] Men are borne into this world to be affected or subjected to the elements of this world.
this is just a general statement. it apply to everyone and any belief.
or are you saying that this is a teaching from the bible only ?

[2] The prince of India asked this before and he got some kind of 'enlightenment' which I have no knowledge of what he was preaching anyway. Assuming, he came out with his own understanding or theory.

i supposed you are referring to the Buddha. In fact is teaching is very simple to understand and yet you claimed " I have no knowledge of what he was preaching anyway " . Either you did not read His teaching or you just simply refused to accept it.

and this is the most stupid thing that you said :
[3] Now, people say the gorillas are the closest relative to men instead of the chimps. This is the creation errors of human beings - rejects.first , you believed god created human and everything and you also believed that this god is powerful and perfect.
next , you slapped yourself by saying a perfect god can made error while creating the human.


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Dear Greedy,

I don't think you have correctly interpreted what Conqueror really stated....may be Conqueror want to clarify.

God does not made errors. Though God is spirit, He has all the emotion - love, compassion, etc.. and even hate - God hates sins..... Though He knew that Adam was going to sin and rebel against Him, that that still cannot prevent Him from creating the first human, Adam. The creation of human is one of God's greatest glories. Nothing can stop God from achieving His glory. But God has a plan and He knew how to 'go back in time' so to speak to put back into all the perfection of His creation, including making all sinful man to be sinless. His plan was to send His only begotten Son, Jesus, to complete His work of redemption, to make all the unrighteous to be righteous through Christ Jesus; to redeem all sinful man and to be sinless and to dwell with Him into eternality.

God has given human countless opportunities to repent but we just simply fail to repent again and again and again. It took Noah 120 years to build the ark and what did the people in Noah's day said: "Where is God? Noah, you so stupid? How could there be a flood? we are at the desert; we have not even seen a drop of rain and you telling us that there is going to be a flood!"

Remember, there was no government during Noah's day. Even with government governing all the nations, we can see how wicked people are. Can you imagin this world without government? The wickedness that people did was unthinkable. It's a matter of whether people going to die of 'slow death' - so to speak - or, alternatively, through God's wrath and end the suffering and death in the shortest possible time. God chose to do the latter but Noah and his family were spared. God intended to use Noah to 'restart' the process of His perfect creation. Still. He couldn't succeed. Man continues to sin and to sin and to sin. This simply shows God's patience. This simply shows God will never give up what He has started. From cover to cover in the Bible - OT to NT - we read the wickedness, cruelty and sinfulness of man. We just fail to redeem ourselves because our sin is too great to handle sin. But not with God, and His patient is runing out. In His final plan, God sent His Son to bring us back to Him. No further chance will be offered. Our only hope is in Jesus, His redeeming blood! Man has failed but God has succeeded when He conquered death because death is our final enemy and God has shown us He has succeed in destroying this final enemy of us - death - when Jesus resurrected from the grave.
 
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Dear Greedy,

I don't think you have correctly interpreted what Conqueror really stated....may be Conqueror want to clarify.

God does not made errors. Though God is spirit, He has all the emotion - love, compassion, etc.. and even hate - God hates sins..... Though He knew that Adam was going to sin and rebel against Him, that that still cannot prevent Him from creating the first human, Adam. The creation of human is one of God's greatest glories. Nothing can stop God from achieving His glory. But God has a plan and He knew how to 'go back in time' so to speak to put back into all the perfection of His creation, including making all sinful man to be sinless. His plan was to send His only begotten Son, Jesus, to complete His work of redemption, to make all the unrighteous to be righteous through Christ Jesus; to redeem all sinful man and to be sinless and to dwell with Him into eternality.

God has given human countless opportunities to repent but we just simply fail to repent again and again and again. It took Noah 120 years to build the ark and what did the people in Noah's day said: "Where is God? Noah, you so stupid? How could there be a flood? we are at the desert; we have not even seen a drop of rain and you telling us that there is going to be a flood!"

Remember, there was no government during Noah's day. Even with government governing all the nations, we can see how wicked people are. Can you imagin this world without government? The wickedness that people did was unthinkable. It's a matter of whether people going to die of 'slow death' - so to speak - or, alternatively, through God's wrath and end the suffering and death in the shortest possible time. God chose to do the latter but Noah and his family were spared. God intended to use Noah to 'restart' the process of His perfect creation. Still. He couldn't succeed. Man continues to sin and to sin and to sin. This simply shows God's patience. This simply shows God will never give up what He has started. From cover to cover in the Bible - OT to NT - we read the wickedness, cruelty and sinfulness of man. We just fail to redeem ourselves because our sin is too great to handle sin. But not with God, and His patient is runing out. In His final plan, God sent His Son to bring us back to Him. No further chance will be offered. Our only hope is in Jesus, His redeeming blood! Man has failed but God has succeeded when He conquered death because death is our final enemy and God has shown us He has succeed in destroying this final enemy of us - death - when Jesus resurrected from the grave.

since when you became a spokeperson for god? you hold a bible doesnt mean you are qualified to preach.

more like a sock puppet, you being the puppeteer and "god" as a puppet.. you say he is loving and caring? didint u see the 250,000 people died in the 2004 tusnami?
 
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contradicting bible ..only idiot like pslam23 believe in that storybook .


1 ) War or Peace?
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

2 ) God good to all, or just a few?
PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.

JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

3) Who is the father of Joseph?
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.

4) Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it:
MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

5) Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.

JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

6) Which first--beasts or man?
GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

7) How many stalls and horsemen?
1KI 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.

2CH 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.

8) Is it folly to be wise or not?
PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

1CO 1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."

9) Human vs. ghostly impregnation
ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

MAT 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

10 ) The sins of the father
ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

11) Rabbits do not chew their cud
LEV 11:6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

"Gerah," the term which appears in the MT means (chewed) cud, and also perhaps grain, or berry (also a 20th of a sheckel, but I think that we can agree that that is irrelevant here). It does *not* mean dung, and there is a perfectly adequate Hebrew word for that, which could have been used. Furthermore, the phrase translated "chew the cud" in the KJV is more exactly "bring up the cud." Rabbits do not bring up anything; they let it go all the way through, then eat it again. The description given in Leviticus is inaccurate, and that's that. Rabbits do eat their own dung; they do not bring anything up and chew on it.

12) Snails do not melt
PSA 58:8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.

13) Fowl from waters or ground?
GEN 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
GEN 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

14) Odd genetics
GEN 30:39 And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.

15) The shape of the earth
ISA 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

MAT 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

Astronomical bodies are spherical, and you cannot see the entire exterior surface from anyplace. The kingdoms of Egypt, China, Greece, Crete, sections of Asia Minor, India, Maya (in Mexico), Carthage (North Africa), Rome (Italy), Korea, and other settlements from these kingdoms of the world were widely distributed.

16) Snakes, while built low, do not eat dirt
GEN 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

17) Earth supported?
JOB 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

JOB 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Heaven supported too
JOB 26:11 The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof.

18) The hydrological cycle
ECC 1:7 All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.

JOB 38:22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,

Storehouses are not part of the cycle

19) Order of creation
Here is the order in the first (Genesis 1), the Priestly tradition:

Day 1: Sky, Earth, light
Day 2: Water, both in ocean basins and above the sky(!)
Day 3: Plants
Day 4: Sun, Moon, stars (as calendrical and navigational aids)
Day 5: Sea monsters (whales), fish, birds, land animals, creepy-crawlies (reptiles, insects, etc.)
Day 6: Humans (apparently both sexes at the same time)
Day 7: Nothing (the Gods took the first day off anyone ever did)

Note that there are "days," "evenings," and "mornings" before the Sun was created. Here, the Deity is referred to as "Elohim," which is a plural, thus the literal translation, "the Gods." In this tale, the Gods seem satisfied with what they have done, saying after each step that "it was good."

The second one (Genesis 2), the Yahwist tradition, goes:

Earth and heavens (misty)
Adam, the first man (on a desolate Earth)
Plants
Animals
Eve, the first woman (from Adam's rib)

20) How orderly were things created?
#1: Step-by-step. The only discrepancy is that there is no Sun or Moon or stars on the first three "days."
#2: God fixes things up as he goes. The first man is lonely, and is not satisfied with animals. God finally creates a woman for him. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)

21 ) How satisfied with creation was he?
#1: God says "it was good" after each of his labors, and rests on the seventh day, evidently very satisfied.
#2: God has to fix up his creation as he goes, and he would certainly not be very satisfied with the disobedience of that primordial couple. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)

22) Moses' personality
NUM 12:3: "Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the fact of the earth."

NUM 31:14, 17, 18: "And Moses was wroth...And Moses said unto them, "Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman, ... But all the women children ... keep alive for yourselves."

23) Righteous live?
PSA 92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."

ISA 57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."

24 ) ACT 1:18: "Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."

MAT 27:5-7: "And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests...bought with them the potter's field."

25) Jesus' first sermon plain or mount?
MAT 5:1,2: "And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying...."

LUK 6:17,20: "And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people...came to hear him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said..."

26) Jesus' last words
MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."

LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."

27 ) Years of famine
II SAMUEL 24:13: So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?

I CHRONICLES 21:11: SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;

28 ) Moved David to anger?
II SAMUEL 24: And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

I CHRONICLES 21: And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

29 ) The GENEALOGY OF JESUS?
In two places in the New Testament the genealogy of Jesus son of Mary is mentioned. MAT 1:6-16 and LUK 3:23-31. Each gives the ancestors of Joseph the CLAIMED husband of Mary and Step father of Jesus. The first one starts from Abraham(verse 2) all the way down to Jesus. The second one from Jesus all the way back to Adam. The only common name to these two lists between David and Jesus is JOSEPH, How can this be true? and also How can Jesus have a genealogy when all Muslims and most Christians believe that Jesus had/has no father.

30 ) God be seen?
EXO 24:9,10; AMO 9:1; GEN 26:2; and JOH 14:9
God CAN be seen:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (EXO 33:23)
"And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (EXO 33:11)
"For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (GEN 32:30)

God CANNOT be seen:
"No man hath seen God at any time." (JOH 1:18)
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (EXO 33:20)
"Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1TIM 6:16)

31 ) CRUEL, UNMERCIFUL, DESTRUCTIVE, and FEROCIOUS or KIND, MERCIFUL, and GOOD:
"I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (JER 13:14) "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."

"The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy." (JAS 5:11)
"For his mercy endureth forever." (1CH 16:34)
"The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works." (PSA 145:9)
"God is love." (1JO 4:16)

32 ) Tempts?
"And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham." (GEN 22:1)

"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (JAS 1:13)

33 ) Judas died how?
"And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and hanged himself." (MAT 27:5)

"And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out." (ACT 1:18)

34 ) Ascend to heaven
"And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." (2KI 2:11)

"No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, ... the Son of Man." (JOH 3:13)

35 ) What was Jesus' prediction regarding Peter's denial?
Before the cock crow - MAT 26:34

Before the cock crow twice - MAR 14:30

36 ) How many times did the cock crow?
MAR 14:72 And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.

MAT 26:74 Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.
MAT 26:75 And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.

LUK 22:60 And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest. And immediately, while he yet spake, the cock crew.
LUK 22:61 And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.

JOH 13:38 Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The cock shall not crow, still thou hast denied me thrice.

JOH 18:27 Peter then denied again: and immediately the cock crew.

37 ) How many beatitudes in the Sermon on the Mount
MAT 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
MAT 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
MAT 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
MAT 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
MAT 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
MAT 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
MAT 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
MAT 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
MAT 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

LUK 6:20 And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
LUK 6:21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
LUK 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
LUK 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

38 ) Does every man sin?
1KI 8:46 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near;

2CH 6:36 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man which sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them over before their enemies, and they carry them away captives unto a land far off or near;

PRO 20:9 Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?

ECC 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

JO1 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
JO1 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
JO1 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

JO1 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

39 ) Who bought potter's field
ACT 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
ACT 1:19 And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.

MAT 27:6 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood.
MAT 27:7 And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in.
MAT 27:8 Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day.

40 ) Who prophesied the potter's field?
MAT 27:9-10 (mentions Jeremy but no such verse in Jeremiah) is in Zechariah 11:12-13

41 ) Who bears guilt?
GAL 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

GAL 6:5 For every man shall bear his own burden.

42 ) Do you answer a fool?
PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

43 ) How many children did Michal, the daughter of Saul, have?
2SA 6:23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.

2SA 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite:

44) How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign?
2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

2CH 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.

45 ) Marriage?
Proverbs 18:22
1 Corinthians 7 (whole book. See 1,2,27,39,40)

46 ) Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?
ACT 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

ACT 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

47 ) Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?
MAR 1:12 And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness.

JOH 1:35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;

(various traipsings)

48 ) How many apostles were in office between the resurrection and ascension?
1 Corinthians 15:5 (12)
MAT 27:3-5 (minus one from 12)
ACT 1:9-26 (Mathias not elected until after resurrection)

MAT 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

49 ) Judging
1 Cor 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:" (NIV)

1 Cor 4:5 "Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God."

50 ) Good deeds
Matt 5:16 "In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven." (NIV)

Matt 6:3-4 "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." (NIV)

51) For or against?
MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
(default is against)

MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
(default is for)

LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
(default is for)

52 ) Whom did they see at the tomb?
MAT 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
MAT 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
MAT 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
MAT 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.

MAR 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.

LUK 24:4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:

JOH 20:12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.

53 ) God change?
MAL 3:6
JAS 1:17
1SA 15:29
JON 3:10
GEN 6:6

54 ) Destruction of cities (what said was jeremiah was zechariah)
MAT 27:9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;

ZEC 11:11-13 (Note: There is nothing in Jeremiah remotely like this.)

55 ) Who's sepulchers
ACT 7:16
GEN 23:17,18

56 ) Strong drink?
PRO 31:6,7
JOH 2:11-11

57 ) When second coming?
MAT 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

MAR 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

LUK 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

(See also 1TH 4:15-18)

58 ) Solomon's overseers
1KI 9:23 550
2CH 8:10 250

59 ) The mother of Abijah:
2CH 11:20 Maachah the daughter of Absalom

2CH 13:2 Michaiah the daughter of Uriel

60 ) When did Baasha die?
1KI 16:6-8 26th year of the reign of Asa

2CH 16:1 36th year of the reign of Asa

61 ) How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
2KI 8:26 22

2CH 22:2 42

62 ) What was the color of the robe placed on Jesus during his trial?
MAT 27:28 scarlet

JOH 19:2 purple

63 ) What did they give him to drink?
MAT 27:34 vinegar

MAR 15:23 wine with myrrh

64 ) How long was Jesus in the tomb?
Depends where you look; MAT 12:40 gives Jesus prophesying that he will spend "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth," and MAR 10:34 has "after three days (meta treis emeras) he will rise again." As far as I can see from a quick look, the prophecies have "after three days," but the post-Resurrection narratives have "on the third day."
 
I Know What You Mean

contradicting bible ..only idiot like pslam23 believe in that storybook .


24 ) ACT 1:18: "Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."

MAT 27:5-7: "And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests...bought with them the potter's field."


28 ) Moved David to anger?
II SAMUEL 24: And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

I CHRONICLES 21: And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.


In this case, you are quite right. I don't really know whether the bible is even 85% correct technically. Like I had said before, I can only expect a certain percentage of truth or answer in a conversation with Him. Yes, I can talk to Him. Some people will just freak out straight away.

My concern is not this technicality but His promise to me (like in the days of Abraham and some other kings of Israel). This is MORE important to me ! Whether the bible is accurate to the point of 0.5 of a micron as in Precision Engineering is NOT that important. We have overlooked the importance of the word as in the promises which He had made to us.



<< Acts 2 >> King James Version

1And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

5And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. 12And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? 13Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

14But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: 15For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. 16But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

19And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

20The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

21And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.



Technically speaking, I should have received the Holy Spirit like rushing wind or like a dove descending on Jesus. Bo Lay ! But, the part "cloven tongues as of fire" yes, my initial reception of the spirit made my tongue rattled (high speed) like a snake - very powerful ! So, sometimes we should not overlooked the blessing of receiving the spirit instead of murmuring on technicality.

Not everyone dream dreams. I do. Mine often linked to prophesy.

If God says to you that you will receive enough money to pay for your bill, and if your mom or boss did give you the money to pay for it, don't expect it should come down from the blue sky in a very spectacular way. That's my true experiences in my walk with God for quite some years. Some people's walk with God can be a rather dull sometimes.
 
Re: Not Buddhist Theory

what nonsense you are spilling !
[1] Men are borne into this world to be affected or subjected to the elements of this world.
this is just a general statement. it apply to everyone and any belief.
or are you saying that this is a teaching from the bible only ?


So, I believe you have also agreed that that was a true statement, right ? Then, what's the problem ? If it is too spectacular for personal comprehension or it is just too magical, then you will also complain. Men are just so hard to please.

Don't be so greedy and cunnig for your own good.
 
Re: I Know What You Mean

In this case, you are quite right. I don't really know whether the bible is even 85% correct technically. Like I had said before, I can only expect a certain percentage of truth or answer in a conversation with Him. Yes, I can talk to Him. Some people will just freak out straight away.

My concern is not this technicality but His promise to me (like in the days of Abraham and some other kings of Israel). This is MORE important to me ! Whether the bible is accurate to the point of 0.5 of a micron as in Precision Engineering is NOT that important. We have overlooked the importance of the word as in the promises which He had made to us.



<< Acts 2 >> King James Version

1And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

5And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. 12And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? 13Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

14But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: 15For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. 16But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

19And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

20The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

21And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.



Technically speaking, I should have received the Holy Spirit like rushing wind or like a dove descending on Jesus. Bo Lay ! But, the part "cloven tongues as of fire" yes, my initial reception of the spirit made my tongue rattled (high speed) like a snake - very powerful ! So, sometimes we should not overlooked the blessing of receiving the spirit instead of murmuring on technicality.

Not everyone dream dreams. I do. Mine often linked to prophesy.

If God says to you that you will receive enough money to pay for your bill, and if your mom or boss did give you the money to pay for it, don't expect it should come down from the blue sky in a very spectacular way. That's my true experiences in my walk with God for quite some years. Some people's walk with God can be a rather dull sometimes.

thankyou for being frank unlike some idiot ....by the way you can talk to god ?
 
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