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"INTELLIGENT DESIGN?
No great engineer can make imperfect design like human being, the earth and the universe in a way they look now. The first implication of Intelligent Design is that we are all far from perfect and therefore our designer is a bad engineer. The design of female birth canal through the pelvis is so imperfect allowing fatal complications for both mother and child. Prior to the scientific advancement of Caesarian-section, birth of baby with larger head than pelvis was a major reason for high maternal and infant mortality. Nearly 5 out of every 100 babies are born with serious congenital abnormalities like spina bifida, cleft palate clubfoot and congenital dislocated hip due to genetics, environmental and other unknown factors around the world. Even an error during the formation of an egg or sperm in parents can cause congenital abnormalities in babies. The occurrences of tsunami, tornado, hurricane, volcanoes, diseases and other destructive forces kill millions every year. A good designer could have designed more perfectly than what it is to avoid these destructive forces. Most of the places in the universe make the life instantly impossible. One day the universe will also wind down to oblivion. How can all these be projected as designs by a supreme engineer keeping human in mind? None of the above shows any benevolent power is out there."
No great engineer can make imperfect design like human being, the earth and the universe in a way they look now. The first implication of Intelligent Design is that we are all far from perfect and therefore our designer is a bad engineer. The design of female birth canal through the pelvis is so imperfect allowing fatal complications for both mother and child. Prior to the scientific advancement of Caesarian-section, birth of baby with larger head than pelvis was a major reason for high maternal and infant mortality. Nearly 5 out of every 100 babies are born with serious congenital abnormalities like spina bifida, cleft palate clubfoot and congenital dislocated hip due to genetics, environmental and other unknown factors around the world. Even an error during the formation of an egg or sperm in parents can cause congenital abnormalities in babies. The occurrences of tsunami, tornado, hurricane, volcanoes, diseases and other destructive forces kill millions every year. A good designer could have designed more perfectly than what it is to avoid these destructive forces. Most of the places in the universe make the life instantly impossible. One day the universe will also wind down to oblivion. How can all these be projected as designs by a supreme engineer keeping human in mind? None of the above shows any benevolent power is out there."
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the problem with this fucker is this, people of his kind if you let him loose, he will go around and cheating others. i will not be surprise he is from one of those megachurch and make a living out of others by cheating and pretty words. he is a smooth talker, i give it to him, but is also a fucking good liar.
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hi vamjok, personally i dont think Psalm does this sort of a thing for a living otherwise he wouldnt waste his time here debating relatively small issues like this.
I mean why try to win an argument here when he could invest his time more gainfully conning people of their money , if indeed he were doing such a thing.
As i've said before what you guys are discussing is way over my head and i wouldnt dare comment.
But i do hope you see my logic regarding Psalm's ' profession '
I mean why try to win an argument here when he could invest his time more gainfully conning people of their money , if indeed he were doing such a thing.
As i've said before what you guys are discussing is way over my head and i wouldnt dare comment.
But i do hope you see my logic regarding Psalm's ' profession '
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100 percent plus chopped. professional conman
http://www.todayonline.com/Science/E...thought--Study
Gorillas even more similar to us than we thought: Study
Updated 03:52 PM Mar 08, 2012
LOS ANGELES - Take a trip to the zoo and you can see gorillas are a lot like us. But a new DNA study says we are even more similar than scientists thought.
From the evolutionary family tree, you would expect our DNA to be the most similar to chimpanzees, our closest relatives. The new work found that is true for the most part, but it also found that a sizable portion of our genome is closer to a gorilla's than to a chimpanzee's.
"The chimpanzee is often cited as 'our closest living relative' and this is certainly true based on total genome sequence, but the gorilla is nearly as close a relative," Dr Owen Lovejoy of Kent State University, who was not part of the project, said.
That agrees with hints from with some smaller previous genetic studies. The latest work deciphered the entire genome of the gorilla, which Dr Lovejoy called "a substantial achievement".
It reveals "a closer connection between our genome and that of the gorilla than was previously appreciated," Dr Richard Gibbs and Dr Jeffrey Rogers of the Baylor College of Medicine wrote in an editorial accompanying the work published in today's issue of the journal Nature.
With the new research, scientists now have complete genetic blueprints of the living great apes - humans, chimpanzees, gorillas and orang utans - to compare and gain fresh understanding of how humans evolved and developed key traits such as higher brain function and the ability to walk upright.
Humans and chimps evolved separately since splitting from a common ancestor about 6 million years ago.
The latest study was led by scientists at the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute, a non-profit British genome research centre. Researchers mapped the DNA of a female gorilla and compared it to the genomes of humans and chimps.
As expected, most of the human genome was closer to the chimpanzee's than to the gorilla's. But in about 15 per cent of the genome, human and gorilla resemble each other the most.
In another 15 per cent, chimpanzee and gorilla DNA are closer to each other than chimp is to human. Both those situations clash with what you would expect from the evolutionary tree, which says humans and chimpanzees should always be the most similar, the researchers said.
The analysis also found gene variants in gorillas that are harmless to them but are linked to dementia and heart failure in people.
"If we could understand more about why those variants are so harmful in humans but not in gorillas, that would have important" medical implications, said one of the study's authors, Dr Chris Tyler-Smith.
The gorilla genome was cracked using DNA from Kamilah, a 300-pound western lowland gorilla from the San Diego Zoo, which maintains a DNA library of endangered animals.
Since the mapping of the human genome in 2001, there was a dash to similarly unravel the genetic codes of other animals, particularly primates. The first complete chimp genome was published in 2005 and the orangutan last year.
Like other great apes, gorilla populations in the forests of central Africa have been dwindling from hunting and disease. In decoding Kamilah's DNA, researchers said they hoped to do the same for the mountain gorilla, which is near extinction. AP
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Gorillas even more similar to us than we thought: Study
Updated 03:52 PM Mar 08, 2012
LOS ANGELES - Take a trip to the zoo and you can see gorillas are a lot like us. But a new DNA study says we are even more similar than scientists thought.
From the evolutionary family tree, you would expect our DNA to be the most similar to chimpanzees, our closest relatives. The new work found that is true for the most part, but it also found that a sizable portion of our genome is closer to a gorilla's than to a chimpanzee's.
"The chimpanzee is often cited as 'our closest living relative' and this is certainly true based on total genome sequence, but the gorilla is nearly as close a relative," Dr Owen Lovejoy of Kent State University, who was not part of the project, said.
That agrees with hints from with some smaller previous genetic studies. The latest work deciphered the entire genome of the gorilla, which Dr Lovejoy called "a substantial achievement".
It reveals "a closer connection between our genome and that of the gorilla than was previously appreciated," Dr Richard Gibbs and Dr Jeffrey Rogers of the Baylor College of Medicine wrote in an editorial accompanying the work published in today's issue of the journal Nature.
With the new research, scientists now have complete genetic blueprints of the living great apes - humans, chimpanzees, gorillas and orang utans - to compare and gain fresh understanding of how humans evolved and developed key traits such as higher brain function and the ability to walk upright.
Humans and chimps evolved separately since splitting from a common ancestor about 6 million years ago.
The latest study was led by scientists at the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute, a non-profit British genome research centre. Researchers mapped the DNA of a female gorilla and compared it to the genomes of humans and chimps.
As expected, most of the human genome was closer to the chimpanzee's than to the gorilla's. But in about 15 per cent of the genome, human and gorilla resemble each other the most.
In another 15 per cent, chimpanzee and gorilla DNA are closer to each other than chimp is to human. Both those situations clash with what you would expect from the evolutionary tree, which says humans and chimpanzees should always be the most similar, the researchers said.
The analysis also found gene variants in gorillas that are harmless to them but are linked to dementia and heart failure in people.
"If we could understand more about why those variants are so harmful in humans but not in gorillas, that would have important" medical implications, said one of the study's authors, Dr Chris Tyler-Smith.
The gorilla genome was cracked using DNA from Kamilah, a 300-pound western lowland gorilla from the San Diego Zoo, which maintains a DNA library of endangered animals.
Since the mapping of the human genome in 2001, there was a dash to similarly unravel the genetic codes of other animals, particularly primates. The first complete chimp genome was published in 2005 and the orangutan last year.
Like other great apes, gorilla populations in the forests of central Africa have been dwindling from hunting and disease. In decoding Kamilah's DNA, researchers said they hoped to do the same for the mountain gorilla, which is near extinction. AP
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we all know that you are a delusional charlatan; preaching so much about biblical stuff in the comfort of his home, pray for free carpark space but ignore jesus' commandment of taking the words to the millions of the unsaved in africa or the middle east, hypocrites i tell you. they worship god from their lips but never take up the yoke to bear the words.
i deal in absolute, either one is with the religion or his is not. i have seen too many pastors with fat wallet and work in aircon office driving church paying cars in sg and in au. disgusting... every week can hear them preaching about saving the lost, reaching out to the unsaved etc... year in and year out, and what do they do? NOTHING! they have stuck in their aircon offices for ages, sent their children overseas to get PR and educated, living expenses and airfares are provided by the church funds.
I tell you. 99% of them are cheats. they knew the contradictions and the inconsistencies in the bible and christianity; e.g. trinity, virgin birth, jesus were talking in aramaic, but the gospels were written in greeks by authors 30 years later!! they all knew the controversies! but they keep insisting diluting the congregation!
i would love to see just one day, a pastor in sg to stand infront of the congregation and profess all these mistakes and let everyone wake up from this dogmatic religions.
sadly, not everyone is smart enough to be aware of this. it is good to let sleeping dog lies, and delusional people to dream on. only those that want to know the truth, can be saved. That goes to all muslims, buddhists, hindus and other religious believers.
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