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The Rape of Nanjing

it's all good then. Hey we're all half japs then!!!

日本語を中国人が学び事は難しいじゃない、易しいです。


Typical Japanese sentence, isn't it? Half Chinese.


It's means Japanese is not difficult to learn for a Chinese, it's easy.


Even not knowing how to pronounce it in Japanese, you'd know more than half its meaning.
 
日本語を中国人が学び事は難しいじゃない、易しいです。


Typical Japanese sentence, isn't it? Half Chinese.


It's means Japanese is not difficult to learn for a Chinese, it's easy.


Even not knowing how to pronounce it in Japanese, you'd know more than half its meaning.

Mao kill more chinese than the Japanese not for sport, Mao is no angel given.

Mao did not throw babies in the air and spear it with their swords or after raping spear the women gential, the scumbag Japs did it for sports.

my dad and his bro jump off a jap truck where they are taken to be excute.

No matter how you look at it 2 wrong don't make 1 right, the scumbag japs did it for sports and using chinese as guniea pigs too.

Jap are the most sadistic in Asia.

Looking at it the Japs kill more chinese than Mao, from the beginning when they start to invade China, till the day they surrender to USA
 
Mao kill more chinese than the Japanese not for sport, Mao is no angel given.

Mao did not throw babies in the air and spear it with their swords or after raping spear the women gential, the scumbag Japs did it for sports.

my dad and his bro jump off a jap truck where they are taken to be excute.

No matter how you look at it 2 wrong don't make 1 right, the scumbag japs did it for sports and using chinese as guniea pigs too.

Jap are the most sadistic in Asia.

Looking at it the Japs kill more chinese than Mao, from the beginning when they start to invade China, till the day they surrender to USA


hey hey comeon why spoil the party?:rolleyes:

The japs are angels and the chinks are bad ppl.

Okay so they speared the babies and innocent civilians for fun so what?

You don't have to worry some chinese dog will counter your claim that more chinese were killed under mao and the communists were more cruel and hence therefore the japs spearing chinese is okay. :rolleyes:
 
The Japs in WW2 were medieval mentalities in modern uniforms. They were the only major power to believe in beheading a few for display to shock and cower the masses who resist into obedience. Even German gassing of Jews was done as covertly and secretly as possible. That worked against them in the end. If we look the the map of the British empire from 1800 to 1950, relatively little fighting or killing were involved in subduing and conquering and ultimately relinquishing, and we're talking about a quarter of the earth.

You are wrong.

The Nazis would publicly hang their so-called "Aryan people" and/ or Jewish people on the street if either of them got in to a relationship with the other.

The bodies were then left for display on the street to warn "Aryans" not to screw with the Jews and adulterate their so-called Aryan bloodline.

Same shit different approach

I do not know where u get the idea that Brits got their empire with relatively little killing. Do you have the figures from both side, the Japs and Brits massacring rate?
In China alone, Brits initiated 2 opium wars that killed countless Chinese soliders. Very few colonies of the British empire gave in to the brits without figthing. Even when the Brits ultimately conquered the territories, sporadic uprising against their unjust rule were common among the natives. U just have to look at the history of India to find out urself how many uprising against the Brits were initiated by the Indians and the number of lives lost.
 
You are wrong.

The Nazis would publicly hang their so-called "Aryan people" and/ or Jewish people on the street if either of them got in to a relationship with the other.

..........


hey hey hey comeone anyone who's been in this forum for some time knows that RAM is never ever ever wrong. And even if he is so what? :rolleyes:


You see you have to follow the script.

Brits being ang mohs are superior. They colonized others but are still benevolent.

Japs are 2nd. They aren't so benevolent but still okay.

The worst are the chinese. Damn even if china was conquered and bullied by japs so long as a chinese even dares retaliate he's the bad guy. :rolleyes:
 
hey hey hey comeone anyone who's been in this forum for some time knows that RAM is never ever ever wrong. And even if he is so what? :rolleyes:


You see you have to follow the script.

Brits being ang mohs are superior. They colonized others but are still benevolent.

Japs are 2nd. They aren't so benevolent but still okay.

The worst are the chinese. Damn even if china was conquered and bullied by japs so long as a chinese even dares retaliate he's the bad guy. :rolleyes:

A correspondent for Tokyo Nichi Nichi, Suzuki Jiro, encountered a few execution scenes and later wrote:

When I went back to the Zhongshan Gate, I saw, for the first time, an unearthly, brutal massacre. On top of the wall, about 25 meters [85 feet] high, the prisoners of war were rounded up in a line. They were being stabbed by bayonets and shoved away off the wall. A number of Japanese soldiers polished their bayonets, shouted to themselves once [to raise their morale], and thrust their bayonets in the chest or back of the POWs.

I saw about ten stragglers bound by wire to a big tree.... One of them [Japanese soldiers] stood up in front of them [Chinese captives], shouted, "You killed our buddies!" and raised the pickax, then swung it down to the head of a powerless prisoner of war.45


Executions After Executions


Persons executed by Japanese soldiers in Ku Ling Temple. Photo taken by an American missionary, Ernest Forster.

Due to the Imperial Army's media censorship, though there were over 100 Japanese journalists in Nanking when the city was captured, those journalists did not dare to write anything "unfavorable" about their countrymen.41

Knowing that any atrocity story wouldn't make news in Japan, the journalists instead described how "valorous" the Imperial troops were in combat inside and outside the walled city.

Accordingly the newspaper articles during and after the siege of Nanking were full of tales of the Japanese soldier's heroic exploits (see also Psychological Warfare II: Japanese Propaganda).42

After the war, however, some of the journalists confided what they had witnessed. A special correspondent for Tokyo Asahi, Imai Masatake, for instance, reported only about the "majestic and soul-stirring" ceremony of the triumphal entry of General Matsui Iwane, the commander-in-chief of the Central China Area Army, and his troops into the city on December 17, 1937. But two days before the victory parade, he revealed in 1956, he witnessed a mass execution of 400 to 500 Chinese men near Tokyo Asahi's Nanking office.

That evening Imai and his colleague also saw a "long, long" procession of hundreds or even thousands of Chinese people being led to the banks of the Yangtze near Xiaguan (Hsiakwan) riverfront. Convinced that all of them were going to be killed, they tried to follow the procession but were stopped by a sentry. Imai recalled a conversation he had with his partner while hearing the sound of bullets ricocheting nearby. A part of the article he wrote for a magazine years later read:

"While we saw what they were doing near the bureau, there was a car passing through," said Nakamura.

"Yeah, I saw some foreigners on it."

"I guess they were from China's Red Swastika Society. This news will leak out to Geneva for sure."

"I wish I could write about it."

"Someday we will, but not for the time being. But we sure saw it."

"Let's go take a look again, with our own eyes."

With that, two of us got up. The sound of gunfire had ceased by then.43

Chinese prisoners of war being led by Japanese troops.

Although the reporter apparently mistook the Red Swastika Society for an organization somehow related to the Red Cross, they guessed right about the news circulating around the world.

Another Tokyo Asahi reporter, Adachi Kazuo, also saw a mass murder near the paper's branch office with his colleague, Moriyama Yoshio. "The 'plain-clothes soldiers' were shot to death one after another, right in front of their wives and children, who were weeping and screaming," wrote Adachi in 1975 in a memorial on Moriyama's death.

"Our hearts were trembling with anger and grief while people in Japan were probably rejoicing over the collapse of Nanking." Adachi also quoted Moriyama as saying at the scene, "With this, Japan has lost the right to win the war."44

A correspondent for Tokyo Nichi Nichi, Suzuki Jiro, encountered a few execution scenes and later wrote:

When I went back to the Zhongshan Gate, I saw, for the first time, an unearthly, brutal massacre. On top of the wall, about 25 meters [85 feet] high, the prisoners of war were rounded up in a line. They were being stabbed by bayonets and shoved away off the wall. A number of Japanese soldiers polished their bayonets, shouted to themselves once [to raise their morale], and thrust their bayonets in the chest or back of the POWs.

I saw about ten stragglers bound by wire to a big tree.... One of them [Japanese soldiers] stood up in front of them [Chinese captives], shouted, "You killed our buddies!" and raised the pickax, then swung it down to the head of a powerless prisoner of war.45
Matsumoto Shigeharu, the Shanghai bureau chief of Domei News Agency, interviewed his ex-colleagues, Arai Masayoshi, Maeda Yuji and Fukazawa Kanzo, who spent a few days as correspondents in Nanking after the capture of the city. According to his book, all of the interviewees told Matsumoto that they saw a number of charred bodies around Xiaguan area, probably between 2,000 and 3,000 dead bodies, on the 16th and 17th.


"I believe only what I saw," says a former Tokyo Nichi Nichi photographer, Sato Shinju.

Maeda personally saw new recruits executing Chinese POWs with bayonets. After having seen 12 or 13 of them being "stabbed to death," he retched and left the place. Maeda also heard that the Japanese troops were carrying out extensive mopping-up operations on the 14th and 15th. But he also remembered that the streets were becoming normal around the 20th.

Matsumoto noted that his interviewees all pointed out the difficulty at the time of distinguishing "massacre" and "extension of combat." His interviewees dismissed the so-called "Great Massacre" of hundreds of thousands of people. Instead, the three journalists gave him an estimate of the civilian death toll at ten or twenty thousand.46

A Domei newsreel cameraman, Asai Tatsuzo, stated a similar notion when interviewed for a magazine article, "I thought executing plain-clothes soldiers and stragglers was what the war was all about."47

Sato Shinju, a photographer for Tokyo Nichi Nichi newspaper, saw a mass execution of about 200 Chinese soldiers but also dismisses the "massacre of 200,000 or 300,000 civilians." "I believe only what I saw," says Sato in an interview for this documentary. "Surely I witnessed a mass murder once, but I also saw some makeshift food stands and street vendors in the Safety Zone. There might have been some atrocities, but I can't believe such a high death toll."48


Living Soldiers: What A Japanese Novelist Observed


A Japanese soldier on sentry duty. March 1938.

Probably the most contemporary account of Imperial troops' atrocities given by a Japanese national at the time was a fictional novel titled Ikiteiru Heitai or Living Soldiers, written in February 1938.

The author, Ishikawa Tatsuzo, later said that he was frustrated by the "conventionally identical news articles" from the China theater and had been wanting to see the war with his own eyes when afforded an opportunity to become a special correspondent for a magazine, Chuo Koron, in December 1937. Ishikawa left Tokyo on the Christmas day and arrived in Nanking on January 5, 1938, three weeks after the city was taken over by the Japanese troops.

During his eight days of field research in Nanking, Ishikawa got acquainted with the soldiers from the 33rd Infantry Regiment of the 16th Division. Soon Ishikawa came up with a story featuring a fictional platoon whose march toward Nanking was clearly based on the unit.

Unlike many heroic characters appearing in general wartime stories and news articles in Japan, in Ishikawa's Ikiteiru Heitai [Living Soldiers] the main characters such as Privates Hirao and Kondo, Sergeant Kasahara, and Second Lieutenant Kurata, were absorbed in the reality of war. They engaged in whimsical killings, looting, rape, and arson throughout their march.49 The following passage is one of those fickle acts his characters often commit in the story:

Hirao grabbed her by the collar and pulled her up, but she didn't let go of the dead body of her mother until one of the soldiers twisted her arm and pulled the body away. The soldiers hauled the girl outside, her legs dragging on the ground.

Hirao screamed like a madman, raised his bayonet and stabbed the girl in the chest three times. The other soldiers also took their daggers and began stabbing her head, abdomen, and other parts indiscriminately.

She was dead within ten seconds. When she collapsed like a futon [pile of bedclothes] onto the dark ground, the warm smell of fresh blood wafted up to the flushed faces of the excited soldiers.

In the trench Second Lieutenant Kurata was aware of what was going on but did not say a word. When the excited soldiers came back to the trench spitting, Sergeant Kasahara was sitting cross-legged on the bottom of the trench smoking. He muttered with a detectable smile on his lips, "What a waste, indeed!"50
 
Killing Prisoners of War
The Yamada Detachment
Rape and Pillage


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Policy to Take No Prisoners


Bodies left unburied along the Yangtze River. Photo taken by a Japanese soldier, Murase Moriyasu, of the 17th Motorized Company of the Meguro Supply and Transport Regiment.

"After that, we successively had a number of prisoners surrendering to us. It became a group of several thousands. The extremely enraged soldiers adversely reacted to the officers' attempts to restrain them and butchered the captives one after another," wrote Major General Sasaki Touichi, commander of the Sasaki Detachment of the 16th Division of the Shanghai Expeditionary Force, of the day his troops entered the city.

"Looking back at the last ten days of hardships and bloodshed that killed and wounded many of our buddies, though I am not a mere common soldier, I am in favor of saying, 'Kill them all!' We ran out of even a grain of rice and, though maybe there are some in the city, I am certain that our Army wouldn't have any extra to feed the prisoners."66

The next day, on December 14, Sasaki officially commanded his troops not to take any prisoners unless ordered to do so.67

In the past two decades in Japan, voluminous evidence of the Nanking Atrocities was unearthed and collected by many historians, some journalists and war veterans. But, surprisingly, one of the most dramatic episodes of the discoveries did not concern any researcher or journalist.

In the late 1980s a chemical factory worker, Ono Kenji, who prefers to be called a "laborer," began investigating what had become of the Chinese prisoners of war captured by the Yamada Detachment of the 13th Division. Most officers and men of the unit came from Fukushima Prefecture where Ono's hometown is located.

For the next seven years Ono interviewed about 200 war veterans and collected 24 wartime diaries and other historical materials.

His work not only revealed how possibly the largest mass executions of POWs in the Nanking Atrocities took place near Mufu Mountain, but also showed how ordinary men were dragged into war and were transformed into numb-minded killers.68


Bodies on the Yangtze bank. Photo taken by Murase.

Another dramatic and perhaps the most significant contribution to the explication of the Nanking Atrocities came to pass when a war veterans' organization, Kaikosha, asked its 18,000-odd members for any information relating to the Battle of Nanjing for its newsletter, Kaiko, in the mid-1980s.

The campaign was initially intended to refute the myth of the Nanjing Massacre, but ironically the organization received mounting evidence that incriminated the Japanese troops.

"There is no excuse for this mass illegal disposition [of the prisoners of war]," said war veteran Katogawa Kotaro, one of the chief editors of the publication, in the last issue of the 11-part series. "As a person relating to the Imperial Army, I can do nothing but apologize to the Chinese people. It was cruel. I am sincerely sorry."69

Indeed, the accumulated evidence, namely wartime diaries, memoirs, field reports and official records of the military operations, all suggested that the upper echelons of the Imperial Army adopted a policy to "dispose of" - euphemism for "kill" - every captive. The commander of the 16th Division, Lieutenant General Nakajima Kesago, for instance, wrote in his diary on Dec. 13:

To begin with, it is our policy not to take prisoners, so we decided to get them out of the way. But when it became a group of one thousand, five thousand, and finally ten thousand, we couldn't even disarm them all. We were safe simply because they had absolutely no will to fight back and followed us slovenly.... I have never imagined that we would have to deal with this large-scale disposition. The staff officers were extremely busy.

I later learned the Sasaki Detachment alone disposed of about fifteen thousand; the one company commander assigned to guard Taiping Gate disposed of about thirteen hundred; seven or eight thousand gathered near Xianhao Gate and many others are still coming to surrender one after another. In order to dispose of these seven or eight thousand people, we needed quite a large trench but were unable to find one. My plan is to divide them into groups of one or two hundred, lure them to proper places and dispose of them there.70
The adjutant to the commanding officer (Matsui Iwane) of the China Central Area Army (CCAA), Major Sumi Yoshiharu, told Kaiko that Lieutenant Colonel Cho Isamu, an information staff officer of the Shanghai Expeditionary Force and a general staff of CCAA, ordered the killing of a great number of POWs held in Xiaguan.71

In his autobiography, Marquis Tokugawa Yoshichika wrote of an anecdote he heard from his friend to whom Cho himself apparently told the following story directly:

A crowd of fleeing civilians including women and children, as well as a number of Chinese soldiers, was surging along the banks of Yangtze. Letting go the Chinese soldiers would affect the course of the war. So Lieutenant Colonel Cho ordered the troops who were holding machine guns at the front to shoot them.

Since there were many civilians in the crowd along with some soldiers, the Japanese troops were hesitant and couldn't do it. Cho lost his temper. "You want to know how to kill people! Like this!" He slashed one of his troops down from the shoulder with his sword. Stunned at Cho, the other troops snapped and opened fire. That's how the massacre started.72

A Chinese soldier captured by Japanese troops.

In Nanjing, the remnants of the defeated army, whether they voluntarily surrendered or whether they got captured as they straggled, were mercilessly killed in the name of "mopping-up" operations.

As observed by the foreign journalists and many Japanese journalists, the Japanese troops also conducted intensive searches for plain-clothes soldiers in the refugee camps.

They looked into one house after another, assembled every able-bodied man and inspected each one for any sign of having been a soldier such as a helmet mark on the forehead, an imprint of a machine-gun strap on the shoulders or calluses on the hands.

Through this arbitrary procedure, many civilians who were not even remotely connected to the Chinese Army were also selected and marched off to execution sites in many parts of the city and outside the walls.

A naval officer, Okumiya Masatake, looked around Nanking on December 25 and 27 in search of dead bodies of missing navy pilots and saw "countless bodies of Chinese" discarded along the shore of the Xuanwu Lake near the Xuanwu Gate. On both days he also witnessed Army troops executing a number of Chinese people at the Xiaguan execution site.

Wondering how they managed to bring so many POWs to the area without much difficulty, he asked a nearby soldier about the trick.


Unburied bodies along the Yangtze. Photo taken by Murase.

According to Okumiya's book, he replied, "We say, 'If you are hungry, raise your hands!' to the Chinese whom we forced to clean up the battle site inside the city walls. Then get those who raised their hands on a truck as if we would take them to a place to eat."73

Executing POWs without any kind of military trial was already a violation of the Hague Regulations of 1902. But, at any rate, most Japanese troops did not have any intention to protect any human rights of the captives.

Some soldiers, if not many, also wreaked their resentments on the prisoners. That was typically embodied in the brutal tortures before executions.

Sergeant Masuda Rokusuke of the 20th Infantry Regiment of the 16th Division wrote in his memoirs:

On the 14th, I went to the refugee camps organized by the International Committee to sweep the place.... Each platoon ransacked its assigned area house to house and checked every single man. Sergeant Maeda of the 2nd Platoon found a few hundreds of stragglers shedding their uniforms and donning civilian clothes inside a big building.

I entered the building right away and saw a crowd of stragglers, a heap of Chinese swords and other weapons.... We dragged them out, striped them naked, inspected their possessions, and bundled them with an electric wire we picked up in the street....

"You made us suffer!"... "You made us sacrifice our buddies!"... "You made Japanese people cry!" "You, little brat!" We kicked, whipped, and beat the heads, backs and other parts of the captives to give vent to our frustration. There were at least 300 of them....

In the evening, we led nearly 600 stragglers to the Xuanwu Gate and mowed them down at one go.74
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Prisoners of War at Mufu Mountain


Charred bodies on the Yangtze bank. Photo taken by Murase.

A correspondent for Asahi Newspaper reported that on December 13 and 14, 1937, the Morozumi Unit (the 65th Infantry Regiment of the Yamada Detachment in the 13th Division) took prisoners of 14,777 Chinese soldiers in the vicinity of the artillery fort of Wulong Mountain and Mufu Mountain that lay at the south bank of the Yangtze River.

However, there had been no further follow-up report since then and for decades it was unknown what had become of those prisoners of war.

In Japan one theory told that half of them were released, a quarter of them escaped and the rest started a riot and consequently got killed.

Another theory told that all of the captives were dragged to the banks of the Yangtze and executed.

In the late 1980s, as stated earlier (see the previous story, "Killing Prisoners of War"), a chemical factory worker in Japan, Ono Kenji, investigated the incident by interviewing 200 or so war veterans and gathering 24 wartime diaries and other historical materials.75


Japanese troops throwing bodies into the Yangtze River. Photo taken by Murase.

Ono's research made it clear that the 15,000 captives and additional 2,000 to 3,000 prisoners taken after the 14th were all massacred by military order.

The mass executions of those POWs are possibly the largest in the Nanking Atrocities. They were conducted in two days on the banks of the Yangtze near Mufu Mountain.

The dead bodies were quickly covered with gasoline and burnt. And many corpses were later thrown into the Yangtze River.

Following are some quotes from the confessions Ono videotaped and the diaries he collected.

Upon his and his interviewees' request, they are all assigned pseudonyms.

Private Kurosu Tadanobu (Pseudonym):

[Interview on the videotape] I joined the Army two days after I got the draft paper. I was determined to fight, but couldn't possibly tell my wife that I would most likely die. So I simply told her to keep our house intact. Those drafted for the first time were delighted to serve their country and the Emperor, but I knew that going to the front meant facing death. When I got on the train, I kept thinking that it was the last time to see my brothers and others. I couldn't help crying.76

[His diary on November 25, 1937] Upon arriving the quarters we killed two big pigs. And now we are eating them. War is such fun. Those who like drinking could drink as much as they want. The weather has been, finally, pleasant for the last few days and so is our mind.77

[His diary on December 16] We took about 5,000 prisoners of war, some of those we captured a couple of days ago, to the bank of the Yangtze and mowed them down by machine guns. Then we stabbed them with bayonets to our satisfaction. I probably bayoneted 30-odd hateful Chinese soldiers. Climbing up the heap of dead bodies and bayoneting them gave me a courage, which made me feel I could even vanquish ogres. I stabbed them with all my might while hearing them groan. There were some old ones and kids. I killed them all. I even borrowed a sword and severed a head. It was the most unusual experience I've ever had.78

[Interview on the videotape] The next day there was another call [for an execution] but I wasn't assigned for it. I did it only once. I believe we killed all the prisoners of war our unit captured. I heard that we had some 20,000 in total... Before I crossed the river [to go to another front in China], I was shocked to see a long stretch of hundreds of charred bodies on the banks. Then I was sure we killed tens of thousands.... It [the Nanjing Massacre] is true, indeed. It is not a lie.... To be honest, I wanted the war to end in Nanking. I really wanted to come back [to Japan].79

Private Kawata Senji (Pseudonym):

[Interview on the videotape] I heard they [the captives] were conscripted soldiers. I saw various prisoners, from younger ones to really old ones.... There were 20,000 of them. We took them out to the bank of the Yangtze River and machine-gunned them. It took us two nights to finish it off. We threw the bodies into the river later on, but the stream was so slow that many of them didn't float right away.

[Interview on the videotape] At the time I didn't think it was wrong. I was ordered to do so. After the war this story [of the mass executions by the Yamada Detachment] came up occasionally. Then I started asking myself, "Did I do something wrong?"80

Second Lieutenant Endo Takaaki (Pseudonym):

[His diary on Dec. 16] The prisoners of war amounted to 17,025. In the evening received military order, took out one third of them to the banks and the 1st Battalion shot them.81

[His diary on Dec. 17] At night sent out five soldiers for the execution of the 10,000-odd remaining prisoners.82




A cenotaph to those massacred near Mufu Mountain. These kinds of memorials can be found at major execution sites in today's Nanking.

Second Lieutenant Takayanagi Shinichi (Pseudonym):

[Interview on the videotape] We tied them [the captives] up and began dragging them [to the execution site] in the morning.... It took all day to get them there. Then at night we machine-gunned them all.... There was corpse after corpse. Had it been in the daylight, I don't think I could have faced the scene straight. I went back there to dispose of the bodies the next day. They were all charred and smelled awful. Even now I remember the smell.

[Interview on the videotape] The order to 'do it' came through all the way from the top.... Those high-rankings don't know what it was like. They just order and never come to the scene.... I don't know how they could talk about it. They haven't even seen it. We, noncommissioned officers and men, were the ones who actually carried it out.... I wonder who on earth are those people to claim that such a miserable incident was "fabrication".... Well, those "professional Army officers" were always behind the scene.83

Sergeant Kawashima Noriyasu (Pseudonym):

[Interview on the videotape] I had experienced so much combat before Nanking. Compared with those, the Battle of Nanking was nothing. The Chinese soldiers were gone out of sight pretty quickly.... They [prisoners of war] were not all soldiers. I don't remember clearly but I might have seen a few women, even.... Of course it was an order from above [to execute all the captives]. It wasn't like five or ten captives.... I was not in a position to know the whole picture, but it was an official order.84

Private Hayashi Junzo (Pseudonym):

[Interview on the videotape] I made the pedestals to mount the machine guns. It was about one meter [3 feet 4 inches] high.... I did it [killed the prisoners] on the second day at the foot of Mufu Mountain.... I fired some 200 bullets in about ten minutes and that was it. I was allowed to go back and was lucky enough not to be assigned to dispose of the dead bodies.85

Private Taniguchi Toshimitsu (Pseudonym):

[Interview on the videotape] Many groups of 100 or 200 Chinese soldiers came from here and there to surrender while hanging out a white cloth or something of that kind. I didn't count them by myself, but I heard we had about 18,000 to 20,000.... I am sure that other units, like the 6th Division, have done the same.... I don't think it could be 300,000. I guess it was probably about 80,000 to 100,000.

[Interview on the videotape] Well, in retrospect we were crazy. When I was taking them [to the execution site], I knew I was going to kill them. But I didn't feel any guilt. Of course I can't imagine doing it now.86

Noncommissioned officer Yamazaki Kohei
(Exact title not to be revealed / Pseudonym):

[Interview on the videotape] There were many prisoners of war who survived the machine-gunning. So we bayoneted those who were moving.... Some screamed like mad men when I stabbed them. It was so loud. Their voices haunted me for a week since then.... I heard that there were a few female prisoners of war. But I don't think there was any elderly or children. They were all soldiers.... We just did what our superiors told us to do.... We burnt the bodies and they stank so badly.... I didn't think much about it [the cruelty] at the time. I just thought war was like that.87

Interview: Ono Kenji88


"If you read his [Mr. Kurosu's] diary, you know it is something that you can't easily talk about," says Ono. Interview by author on March 11, 2000.

"I think those former soldiers used to have racial hatred toward Chinese. Many war veterans I interviewed still unconsciously use the word, Chankoro [derogatory term in Japanese literally meaning, "Chinese brat"], or something of that kind. But at the same time, many of those who committed the massacre have been tormented by their consciences for more than 50 years...."

"I became really close to Mr. Kurosu (pseudonym) through my research. I visited his house quite often and talked a lot. He seemed deeply repentant.... I was really surprised and couldn't say a word when he gave me his wartime diary, which, he'd been telling me, he ditched before he landed in Japan. It was one and a half years after we met and made friends! Then I realized how hard it was for him to come to terms with the past. If you read his diary, you know it is something that you can't easily talk about...."

"These [former soldiers'] diaries are candidly describing how normal, average persons had developed their animosity through combat and how they became mentally anesthetized through slaughtering captives and looting houses on the way to Nanjing. Once those cruel acts became their daily lives, they no longer had inhibitions...."


Ono collected 24 wartime diaries in the course of his investigation.

"After all, they were following orders from the Army. Most of those who massacred Chinese were noncommissioned officers and common soldiers. For them the orders were absolute.... Of course I feel compassion for the victims. But now I know the perpetrators were also psychologically scarred...."

"A veteran told me that he couldn't forget the face of one prisoner he killed in Shanghai. He executed thousands of POWs on the banks of the Yangtze River later on, but those victims were already faceless for him. But the one he killed in Shanghai for the first time, he still dreams of the face once in a while. I think it really tells something about the psychological state of the soldiers in the Yamada Detachment in Nanjing."
 
A correspondent for Tokyo Nichi Nichi, Suzuki Jiro, encountered a few execution scenes and later wrote:

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hey chuck you're not following the script here. Okay so what if the japs did this or that to the chinese at that time?

Who cares? Do we care? Do the ppl here care?

I mean look we're using jap brands like sony, toshiba and so on. Who even cares about if some chinese ppl died? There're so many chinese ppl in the world anyway. And Oh did you know mao killed more chinese ppl? :eek:He's even worse. I love this analogy cos i use it all the time. In school when i was punished for coming late to class i always said hey u know so and so is a gangster and is worse off than me. The prefects bowed their heads in shame and let me off. I was also let off for stealing in school too. I simply told the ppl that caught me hey u know so and so is a gangster and a robber they also let me off. :rolleyes:


Comeon chuck why post about what those japs did? It's all in the past just let it go who cares if those china ppl died? They're just china ppl. See how cool the japs are just last week i test drived a lexus damn great car from the japs. Since i'm chinese i look like a jap and why not i become a jap. I actually become superior :rolleyes::eek:
 
yeah jah.

We can forgive but can never forget what happen, lest history repeat itself.

I met a jap gal in Eygpt last christmas 2009, she work for UN refugee dept in Kenya, she apologise for what happen in WW2, i told her it is not her fault and she wasn't born yet, what has happen is already past, but we must never forget and not let it repeat in the future.
 
chuck you're actually becoming a bore repeating yourself. The ppl here are mostly chinese. They probably had forefathers whom were killed or tortured or fought with the japs yet see their response here.


These ppl aren't say 3rd party on lookers but descendants of ppl that fought the japs yet look at how they react.

It's pointless to write all this don't forget shit here.
 
chuck you're actually becoming a bore repeating yourself. The ppl here are mostly chinese. They probably had forefathers whom were killed or tortured or fought with the japs yet see their response here.


These ppl aren't say 3rd party on lookers but descendants of ppl that fought the japs yet look at how they react.

It's pointless to write all this don't forget shit here.

Yeah bore, please don't read, :p:p:p.

too many jap lovers here, not excluding me...:D:D:D

So what you going to do Jah.
 
Yeah bore, please don't read, :p:p:p.

too many jap lovers here, mot excluding me...:D:D:D

So what you going to do Jah.


Not excluding me = including me. So you're also a jap lover right?


I'm not going to do anything. I mean hey we're not our forefathers. I personally have not heard any stories from my family about them being killed by japs. They all survived. Therefore it's nothing to me. It's also the same for the rest of them.

Look how can we blame japs? We use their products, look up to their fashion and like their gals. Correct?


We should blame mao zedong instead. He's a damn chink. He killed more chinese than the japs did.


I also agree with this type of logic. That's why i don't feel guilty when i stole some knick knacks from 7-11 when younger cos i knew my peers did worse like slash ppl or rob others. :rolleyes:
 
The Japs won. The Chinks lost. Get over it and move on.
 
Not excluding me = including me. So you're also a jap lover right?



Look how can we blame japs? We use their products, look up to their fashion and like their gals. Correct?


We should blame mao zedong instead. He's a damn chink. He killed more chinese than the japs did.


I only love the Jap gals, they really do know how to take care of the man, whenever i have a afternoon or evening delight with her, it is pay back time...:D:D:D
 

The Dead Don't Talk




scary leh? :p

wahlaneh...
who says the dead don't talk?:confused:
in fact dead people tell alot things live people dunnoe about.;)
the dead man is the coroner's best friend u know? he tells him everything uncensored naked truth.:D
 
Looking at it the Japs kill more chinese than Mao, from the beginning when they start to invade China, till the day they surrender to USA

Mao and gang caused 60-80 millions Chinese deaths during his 25 years rule. Japan at most 40 millions.
Chinese Communist Party repeatedly colluded with Russian GRU agents and Japanese spies to lit the fuse of the 2nd Sino-Japanese war.

How could anyone defend Mao and CCP.
 
Mao and gang caused 60-80 millions Chinese deaths during his 25 years rule. Japan at most 40 millions.
Chinese Communist Party repeatedly colluded with Russian GRU agents and Japanese spies to lit the fuse of the 2nd Sino-Japanese war.

How could anyone defend Mao and CCP.

Killing innocent is wrong, be they Mao, Chiang and Japs, but killing human for sport is BARBARIC period.

General Chiang left the city of nanking for the Jap, his officers are all corrupted acting like the Babaric warlords they were from yesteryears

Did Mao throw babies up in the air spear them with their swords, or order raping of women and spearing their gential after it?, the Jap did both of it.

You hate communist is understandable, KMT are no ANGEL they are worse then the communist when it come to treating the peasants of China.

Let us agree to leave it at that, we can debate till the cow come home and we would still not get any clearer.

Both side of my family lands and shops got confiscated by the communist.

KMT soldiers will only rob and rape the peasant.

Cultural Revolution is the biggest black mark on the CCP, the order came from Mao.

End of the day, we chinese has ourselves to blame cause we fight among ourselves.

Neither Mao, Chiang or the Jap are innocent or angel.

cheers have a nice day.:):):)
 
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Mao and gang caused 60-80 millions Chinese deaths during his 25 years rule.
Japan at most 40 millions.

Mao and gang were the common god..
most people killed one another directly/indirectly for god
they collectively had, however little it may be, the choice

Japan was the common enemy..
most people got killed one way or the other by the enemy
they collectively, did not have the choice

I wonder how they computed the figures.

:D
 
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