Hey fuck you! Who are you to judge? You think you can come here with your O level English and try to yaya papaya? This forum is a free for all. Whether someone chooses to respond courteously is entirely up to them and their perception of you. Obviously, he thinks you are a dumb fuck, which I concur. Shameless bastard, still dare to bring up your five year old son into the picture to lend credence to your posts. I think you should brig him to the Pink Dot gathering at that young age. He can learn that Ass is Best as a toddler! Fuck you, chee bye dog!
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Tan Kin Lian - An Opportunist? Let see the Facts
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Hey fuck you! Who are you to judge? You think you can come here with your O level English and try to yaya papaya? This forum is a free for all. Whether someone chooses to respond courteously is entirely up to them and their perception of you. Obviously, he thinks you are a dumb fuck, which I concur. Shameless bastard, still dare to bring up your five year old son into the picture to lend credence to your posts. I think you should brig him to the Pink Dot gathering at that young age. He can learn that Ass is Best as a toddler! Fuck you, chee bye dog!
Karmabear. Once again, shame on you. You choose to continue using vulgarity quotes even though my respond to your earlier post has not being vulgar at all. This is absolutely fine as it simply shows you are merely a chap with low character, not justifying my times on you any further. I wish you best of luck.
Just like you, my agenda to join this forum is to support Tan Kin Lian, whereas your agenda is obviously to discredit TKL. Those fools whom I am referring to are those that attempted to twist the fact and indicating that he has hidden political affiliation. I do not know whether you qualify such title name as you should be judge of your own instead.
By the way, I have just responded to karmabear - whom has being using vulgarity words (for example : fu**) in this forum. Hence, if you insist, he will be the fool because he forget that it was this process that he came to this world instead.
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OMG. He actually supported the opening of 2 casinos. Tan Kin Lian says in 2004 " I support the idea of a casino. It DOES NOT MATTER that some Singaporeans WILL gamble in the casino"
Scroobal is right. He did not even fart in a wayward way while still at NTUC income in 2004 and in the PAP. Infact, he came up smelling like perfume in the eay he wrote the letter. So much for helping people who lost money.
Wait a minute, JW5. You said that you detest people who use insults (like calling people fools) but you seem to enjoy a contributor (called karmabear ) that has been going around using vulgarity words like fu**ing, dumb fu**, shameless bastard etc. because he seems to go away scott-free instead. Double standard or " Birds of a feather flock together " ?
Let me compare what a former magistrate and DPP who was close to retirement did compared to what Tan Kin Lian.
In 1999' the Malaysian Govt took unilateral action and closed Clob, putting hard earned savings of people in jeopardy. This chap gathered a few friends and fought back. To cut a long story short, he formed a powerful association and lobby group of investors. This association is 60,000 strong, has got substantial muscles and looks after the interest of moms and pops, the educated and the uneducated. He is well respected and people like pillay and lim chee on are on his advisory board. He has a direct line to MAS.
Can you guess who is this chap who achieved tangible results. Do we make him President?
This chap did not stand on box and make endless comments and suggestions. This chap was not ignored by the establishment nor professionals. Neither did a half baked ambulance lawyer get involved and nothing came out of it.
He also never asked for a petition of 100,000 signatures to stand anywhere.
In 1999' the Malaysian Govt took unilateral action and closed Clob, putting hard earned savings of people in jeopardy. This chap gathered a few friends and fought back. To cut a long story short, he formed a powerful association and lobby group of investors. This association is 60,000 strong, has got substantial muscles and looks after the interest of moms and pops, the educated and the uneducated. He is well respected and people like pillay and lim chee on are on his advisory board. He has a direct line to MAS.
Can you guess who is this chap who achieved tangible results. Do we make him President?
This chap did not stand on box and make endless comments and suggestions. This chap was not ignored by the establishment nor professionals. Neither did a half baked ambulance lawyer get involved and nothing came out of it.
He also never asked for a petition of 100,000 signatures to stand anywhere.
Your power of reasoning is poor and your arguments are shallow. There is a clear pattern of behaviour of his that you can't seem to detect. These refer to his conduct and the people he associates with. Let's face it they are nice, sincere but they are not the sharpest tool in the shed. You do realise that nobody of professional standing or of good repute want to be associated with him. The vast majority of people are not with PAP or want to be associated with PAP.
This guy reminds of a chap who came into this forum to defend his friend who is married to Perm Sec but was caught with a student in JB. He claimed that his friend was helping to teach the student. Get this: teaching a Singapore Uni student in a hotel room in JB. Talk about dedication.
Naturally we screwed the hell out of him. After a few attempts he gave up.
Sadly looks a we are going to have a 5 year old kid growing up with not so bright a mentor.
Naturally we screwed the hell out of him. After a few attempts he gave up.
Sadly looks a we are going to have a 5 year old kid growing up with not so bright a mentor.
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And you are here to spread the cult of Tan Kin Lian of love and adulation? Grow up kiddo
And yes i do have 100-200k but that's for my house and spending it on whores as and when i like
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Sorry unlike you I did not join this forum to cast slurs or to discredit TKL. I have no personal agenda nor did I join this forum for TKL's sake to cast aspersions on his character. I am in this thread as I do agree with the TS about TKL and his past records.
As far as I am concerned, TKL is not a person that I want as my President. I am voicing my personal opinion to fellow members here. So unlike you who has nothing of value to add apart from your worship of TKL, thank you but no thanks. Please go elsewhere like distributing pamphlets door to door and whatnot to campaign for TKL.
Once again, most of us are not partial to newcomers to the forum just so they can freely call members fools because they disagree with their views. You are not helping TKL by calling forum members fools as it has cast more doubts about him. We are also members of other forums and yes, we will continue to post our views to all and sundry.
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You're talking about David Gerald, aren't you? He's on PAP and MAS side fighting against CLOB. TKL is formerly of PAP and NTUC but now taken a neutral stand for the people, apparently at least. TKL fought against MAS and the local financial cartel to extract somewhere between 25 to 100% refunds to victims of minibombs within a year, over the initial MAS stand of caveat emptor and suffer your own consequence. That's far more expedient and tangible what Gerald achieved with SIAS when saleability and tradeability of clobbered shares were restored over three years or more at prices half or less or at a fraction (partially circumstantial upon the next 2000-01 crash following the 1997-98 one).
I don't take any credit away from Gerald or subject him to any comparison to previous or contemporary illuminaries anyway. I don't like TKL personally. I find him pompous and whinny like a spoilt brat under rehabilitation. I may not likely vote for him but I welcome him to stand to give us a choice. You on the other hand, seem to have something personal or politically motivated against him to begin with. Without durian trees around, you'd still pluck rambutans to throw at him.
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Another one with poor power of comprehension and reasoning.
Would I want David Gerald to be President? Certainly not. Would David Gerald feel that he deserve to be President and ask for 100k petition. I don't think so. This is despite that he went to University, was a magistrate, DPP and ran his own practice for close to 30 years and did not have to rely on the PAP for his livelihood and did not leech on taxi drivers and union members for his income.
David Gerald's contribution was immense and tangible. Are you aware that during the Mini bond saga, the Govt, MAS, the banks, the legal profession and other respectable professionals ignored him as they sensed that he was an opportunist. All he ended up with was an ambulance chasing ambitious your lawyer who got no where. Look who he ended with. GMS, PNG, etc not exactly top tier.
Sometime you have to learn to observe and connect the dots. Why are main stream respectable individuals who have nothing to do with then PAP are avoiding the man. Tan kin Lian is not someone that suddenly appeared from no where. Nearly everyone knows who he is and what he has been doing for 30 years. They have formed opinions and have heard what he has been doing for 35 years. A leopard does not change it's spot. David Gerald on the other had people's attention and doors opened despite that he has been low profile for 3 decades. Do you know why? Again, he is not standing for President.
Tan Cheng Bock on the other hand was feted as guest of honour at this years SMA, they got him to drag onto their VIP table 2 other high profile opposition candidates. And his speech as usual was calling a spade a spade. Do you know why TCB is respected by both sides of the divide and hated by thenold man.
You seem to know WP quite well. Drop by and have a chat with Sylvia and ask her about him and also what her father thinks of him.
It's a small country, people tend to know each other well. Why you think TKL connects withGMS and PNg. Same age group? same profile in industry? Same charities?, same social concerns? same interest ? Golfing 3some? maybe mahjong partners?
Note the comments in this forum from the usual anti-establishment crowd and the opposition fans. Can't you tell.
Would I want David Gerald to be President? Certainly not. Would David Gerald feel that he deserve to be President and ask for 100k petition. I don't think so. This is despite that he went to University, was a magistrate, DPP and ran his own practice for close to 30 years and did not have to rely on the PAP for his livelihood and did not leech on taxi drivers and union members for his income.
David Gerald's contribution was immense and tangible. Are you aware that during the Mini bond saga, the Govt, MAS, the banks, the legal profession and other respectable professionals ignored him as they sensed that he was an opportunist. All he ended up with was an ambulance chasing ambitious your lawyer who got no where. Look who he ended with. GMS, PNG, etc not exactly top tier.
Sometime you have to learn to observe and connect the dots. Why are main stream respectable individuals who have nothing to do with then PAP are avoiding the man. Tan kin Lian is not someone that suddenly appeared from no where. Nearly everyone knows who he is and what he has been doing for 30 years. They have formed opinions and have heard what he has been doing for 35 years. A leopard does not change it's spot. David Gerald on the other had people's attention and doors opened despite that he has been low profile for 3 decades. Do you know why? Again, he is not standing for President.
Tan Cheng Bock on the other hand was feted as guest of honour at this years SMA, they got him to drag onto their VIP table 2 other high profile opposition candidates. And his speech as usual was calling a spade a spade. Do you know why TCB is respected by both sides of the divide and hated by thenold man.
You seem to know WP quite well. Drop by and have a chat with Sylvia and ask her about him and also what her father thinks of him.
It's a small country, people tend to know each other well. Why you think TKL connects withGMS and PNg. Same age group? same profile in industry? Same charities?, same social concerns? same interest ? Golfing 3some? maybe mahjong partners?
Note the comments in this forum from the usual anti-establishment crowd and the opposition fans. Can't you tell.
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I read that comment "my friend from WP" in the TODAY paper on the report that png collected the forms on his behalf.
The articles on " Today Online " dated 07 June 2011 and 09 June 2011 show nothing regarding such remark - i.e. " my friend from WP ".
The closest that I can find is a sentence from one of the news clip that reads : " At this point in time, Mr Tan has still not decided if he will run for President. After requesting his friend from Worker’s Party (WP) to collect the Certificate of Eligibility forms, Mr Tan issued the following statement: ...... ". Unfortunately and quite obviously, Tan Kin Lian did not said " my friend from WP " but a remark from the reporter instead.
The closest that I can find is a sentence from one of the news clip that reads : " At this point in time, Mr Tan has still not decided if he will run for President. After requesting his friend from Worker’s Party (WP) to collect the Certificate of Eligibility forms, Mr Tan issued the following statement: ...... ". Unfortunately and quite obviously, Tan Kin Lian did not said " my friend from WP " but a remark from the reporter instead.
Please stop all your low esteems stories, Scroobal. First, you said that you have been approached by 2 separate cabinet minister over a number of years to stand for election and now, the former magistrate and DPP story. You said that my power of reasoning is poor and arguments are shallow but it seems like your reasoning and arguments are not better anyway. A kettle calling another kettle black ?
Yes. You are correct. Tan Kin Lian could use the S$100K - S$200K for his house and on whores that he likes too. Instead, he chooses to use the monies to contest for presidential election - and subject to those sarcastic peoples that choose to pass irrational and irresponsible remarks.
Yes, this may be political. Tan Kin Lian understands that the chance for him to be elected was slim but he is still willing to come forward. He believes that he is able to make chances - for Singaporeans sake. It is better than those individuals that choose to hid behind and criticize and condemn others instead.
Yes, this may be political. Tan Kin Lian understands that the chance for him to be elected was slim but he is still willing to come forward. He believes that he is able to make chances - for Singaporeans sake. It is better than those individuals that choose to hid behind and criticize and condemn others instead.
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Ok, if he was misquoted or the report was mistaken or we read wrongly that he said "my WP friend", I retract that.
But can you still answer these questions:
1. Why did he need to ask an opposition party member and election candidate GMS to collect the forms? GMS admitted to this in this thread but he declined because he had a prior engagament.
2. Why then did he ask another oppositon party member and election candidate Png to collect the forms, which he agreed and did?
3. Why did he say on his blog that he would be a president with no political affiliation, when he did steps 1 and 2 above? Could he not have asked a friend who was not an opposition party member or election candidate to collect the forms?
4. What was the reason for the previous petition? What was the analysis from the results and can we expect to receive another petition?
5. Since when did I "enjoy a contributor" going around using vulgarities? Show me a post where I condoned that please.
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Windsor. I did not ever call any members fools because they disagree with my views. In fact, those fools that I am referring to are those that used vulgarity on fellow members or those that deliberately twisted facts to target others.
Hence, for the benefit of clarification, the user karmabear is a fool, in my opinion. You are certainly not.
Hence, for the benefit of clarification, the user karmabear is a fool, in my opinion. You are certainly not.
Tan Kin Lian asked a friend to collect the forms. It is just so simply, direct and without any hidden agenda. Unfortunately, it was the netizens that complicate the whole affairs that include bringing up GMS, opposition party member, WP etc. into the picture instead. As I said, it was just unfortunate that Png was available to collect the forms for Tan Kin Lian and that he was associated with WP - but not Tan Kin Lian.
I wonder what will happen if Tan Kin Lian requested a friend, whom was a member ( or former member ) of the ruling party, to collect those forms. I think the netizens will cry foul again. It is really difficult at times to please everyone but in this scenario, a case of " wrong person appearing at a wrong time " instead.
I wonder what will happen if Tan Kin Lian requested a friend, whom was a member ( or former member ) of the ruling party, to collect those forms. I think the netizens will cry foul again. It is really difficult at times to please everyone but in this scenario, a case of " wrong person appearing at a wrong time " instead.
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