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Slot games, Casino Rewards & Privileges

Hi Guys,

I have another question to ask. Is it true the fastest way to gain points in MBS is through slots? I used to play in the high stakes baccarat tables but yet my points increase at a very slow rate.. after going more than ten times to MBS .. i only have 300 + points still a red card member :( .. i understand that most of you are already at the highest diamond or platinum level..and like jjcc has so many points then you can keep redeeming hotel stays at mbs..

Kindly advise me how i can gain points /premier dollars quickly.. Do i need to play slots and play at the all lines and maximum credits?
If play lesser credits then points will increase at a slower rate?

Please advise.. Thanks :)
 
Besides slot experiences, we have info on Shops & Eateries too, not bad. :p
 
Some newbie questions:

1. Payback percentage: does it apply to ALL machines (average) or to each machine? eg if PB 95% (one machine can have 90% payout and another 100% -> even up to 95%) ? What's the PB % of RWS - MBS?

2. Bonus rounds: Which machines have guaranteed good bonus round? I've played IGT, WMS and Aruze, the bonus round sometimes doesn't really pay anything. Does it set by the manufacturer (meaning other brands' machines have better payout in bonus round) or by the casino (meaning ALL manufacturers' machines have same chance of lousy payment in bonus round)?

So far, WOF always pay good for me. I've hit the bonus round more than 10 times in few days play (each play only last for 5 mins - hit and run) and I always hit the progressive (the lowest one usually and sometimes the mid one, but since I am just playing for 5 mins, it's profit)

3. Which machines have the most "ROI" for your bet? For ex,Sex and the city, max bet $3 and the top prize is just $x,xxx. Doesnt sound like a good return. AVP, max bet $40, when I was there JP over $1million. Good ROI? Bank buster $0.02, max bet $6, Top JP is mid $xx,xxx, good ROI?
 
Saw this lady at RWS Hollywood section today, banging loudly at the machines for the whole day, talking rudely to the staff, commanding them to look into this and that. Acts like she owns the place. Please .... go to the casino is to enjoy yourself ... not get mad at the machines.

Apparently she has lost a lot!
 
Apparently she has lost a lot!

Is she playing FK or CSY? I may know who she is.

There are regular patrons who know the supervisor and staff very well. I have seen them being tasked to change $1000 notes to stakes of $50/100s.
 
The strategy sounds right but not practical.
I would rather suggest you to go to those mystery progressive prizes slot area. These progressive prizes where they usually set a max amount (eg $5,000) if you see the progressive amount already $4,200 -$4,500, it's likely to release prize soon. I won 3 times of these progressive prizes at RWS with this method. I missed a few times because I've choosen the wrong machine. :(

sorry i never been to casino before but is there a way to know which is the progressive machine?
 
sorry i never been to casino before but is there a way to know which is the progressive machine?

Very easy to tell, if you see a big prize pool display on top of a group of machines, they are progressive prize machines.

Titles of progressive prize machines
RWS and MBS:
Aristocrat -Fafafa (2,5,10,20cts), Aristocrat -Cash Express(2,5cts), WMV- Life of Luxury(5cts), WMV -Jackpot Party (5cts), Aristocrat- Bankbuster(1,2cts), Belly- Hotshot(5cts).

RWS:
Aristocrat -Bollywood(5cts), Aristocrat- Gold Rush(5cts), Aristocrat- Island Delights(2cts), Mixed brand - Mega Jackpot & Lambo.

MBS:
Aristocrat -Fast Cast(10cts), Aristocrat -Prosperity(2cts), Aristocrat -Lotus car.

and many other uncommon groups which I can't recall.
 
Is she playing FK or CSY? I may know who she is.

There are regular patrons who know the supervisor and staff very well. I have seen them being tasked to change $1000 notes to stakes of $50/100s.

Her loud banging make me feel so uneasy, so did not see what she was playing. But she spent most part of Tuesday at the Hollywood section.
 
Yay - tonight already booked my next travel trip for autumn :D
AGAIN to Europe - but to Spain & Portugal this time
Hope to get some cheaper euros before the trip in Oct :)
MUST seriously save money for this ......
Was actually thinking more on Greece or even USA etc - but the dates etc for the Spain trip were much more 'convenient' for us and fitted better
Still need to clear another 5 days before 31st Dec as only allowed to carry forward 5 days leave to following year : probably just a short trip over the Xmas etc season to some nearby Asian destination ?

Also called to reserve my 2 complimentary tickets to the 11th August "Hot August Concert" at MBS - Grand Ballroom (see Wed email)

Also from Thursday RWS SMS : told to collect some Birthday Voucher by 15 Sep (for Gold Members with birthdays between June to August)
Hope it's something really 'good' here :p
 
Shall we discuss some slot related topics other than slot play experiences ?

Have you tried these games in MBS? Actually I quite like these games but always "don't have the time" to play, I must blame 5K, 5D and FK. :rolleyes:

IGT Siberian Storm - Link video New Game (Jun 2011)
IGT Diamond Queen - Link Video
Aristocrat - Deep Freeze - Link video
Konami China Shores - Link Video
China Shores is a 30lines slot game, all play lines will be activated when player hit the bonus run regardless he/she is playing 1,3,5 lines. Conditions- 3 bonus symbols must hit on the played lines to activate bonus spins.
Aruze Shen Long - Link Video
No chance to play this 2cts machine coz they are always occupied.
 
Hi Guys,

I have another question to ask. Is it true the fastest way to gain points in MBS is through slots? I used to play in the high stakes baccarat tables but yet my points increase at a very slow rate.. after going more than ten times to MBS .. i only have 300 + points still a red card member :( .. i understand that most of you are already at the highest diamond or platinum level..and like jjcc has so many points then you can keep redeeming hotel stays at mbs..

Kindly advise me how i can gain points /premier dollars quickly.. Do i need to play slots and play at the all lines and maximum credits?
If play lesser credits then points will increase at a slower rate?YES

Please advise.. Thanks :)

Actually kia the slot expert should answer you here :D
AND he's in the Elite invited category too : PAIZZA Level

The answer is YES - slots are the FASTEST way to earn points
ie IF you aren't a HIGHROLLER TABLE Player :)

For me - BEST is to play ALL LINES
And then depending on your pocket/budget and whether 2cts/5cts/10cts etc - play at mid-level or so eg 50/125 credits [higher/max level = 250 credits & above]
The HIGHER 10cts/20cts/$1 Games will earn points at a much quicker pace but also wipe out your capital real fast
So it's all up to you here .....

I have been doing the Great Exchange for slot credits since June and I'm now left with VERY VERY LOW PDs of BELOW 1k tho' my POINTS are more than 7k

If you follow this thread and my progress at MBS, you'll see that I reached Gold from Red PA Card within less than a month, and altogether from RED to Diamond took me a total of less than 3 months .... but my initial visits then saw me playing with much higher capital per trip [at least 1k-2k+] - I haven't been able to continue with this luxury the last few months as have exhausted my spare funds and I'm now going much less frequently and with much lowered capital
eg I'm being 'good' today even tho' it's my usual Fri PM Off Day and instead of hitting the casino as normal, I DIDN'T (even tho' it's a Club 100 Draw Day .... no point as MY Name NEVER ever gets picked !!!) and instead simply went to the Hair Salon for a Hair Wash (also bc tomorrow Sat have a lunch function to attend so better get my hair to look a tad better here if possible)

Sat I MIGHT pop in after the function for a BRIEF visit [probably brief bc using probably only exchanged Slot Credits and unlikely to play with any extra capital as haven't got extra spare funds until salary-time next week :o ..... yes I'm so much much 'poorer' now compared to a year before - before my forays into the local casinos [unlike some of the rest here - I have NOT been lucky to win any MAJOR substantial JPs - only the miserable lowest MINIs & MINOR JPs which do NOT help at all in helping to 'subsidise this expensive hobby or to recoup in part some of the Heavy Losses here sighzzzz :( :confused::*:]
Hmmm that BRIEF Birthday Week 'Slightly More Lucky' Period was just too brief ...

As I've posted earlier, I WILL NOT be renewing my Annual Levies unless there's a windfall to help out here
With the Lousy Luck really can't afford to continue in the same way
So my plans are to go less frequently only on DAILY LEVIES and with a more meaningful 'accumulated/higher' sum of playing capital etc ;)

Right now TRAVEL is still an important priority for me
So need to channel my spare funds for such too - minimum 2 main trips per year with possible shorter side-trips


Kia - you can play the 2 10cts Shen Long slots which are usually NOT occupied compared with the popular 2 cts ones
I've been playing just 20 credits rather than 50 credits at the 10 cts slots now and then and SOMETIMES can still get quite good payouts :)
 
how much you need to pay to get membership to go to the casino so no need to pay 100 bucks everytime.
 
how much you need to pay to get membership to go to the casino so no need to pay 100 bucks everytime.

Don't confuse the FREE Membership with the $100 DAILY Levy or $2k ANNUAL Levy
The Levy is imposed by the government to discourage Singaporeans/PRs from going to the casinos
It's either $100 for every 24 hours OR $2k for one full year/12 months.

"Membership" at the casinos actually refer to the FREE membership you can apply for to earn RWS GP points (RWS GP points don't get converted to dollars as they simply use up the GP points) or MBS Points which will be "converted" to Premier Dollars for spending but the earned points remain as points forever - it's only the PDs Premier Dollars that get used up/depleted
RWS or MBS Premier Advantage Membership are distinct/different from the Daily/Annual Levies !
 
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I have played Diamond queen. Feature is very rare. Need 3 scatter column 2 to 4 only. Also 3 free games only. But during feature, column 2-4 becomes wild stake progressively, hence return can be very substantive. But still need luck to get column 1 and 5 to be same so that you can get full house. I like the potentially high return but hate playing for the elusive and little free games.

Aruze Shen Long. I really like the graphics and the sound from the Bose speaker. I used to play this slot together with the Aruze Emperor and Rock Queen. Initially I was also attracted to concept of rescue spin which is unique to Aruze. But after playing for a while on these, the rescue spin doesn't seem to "rescue" at all. Maybe they should call it something else. The word "rescue" seems to tell you that once you can play until the rescue feature, you should be able to get back substantially. However, that is not the case. You can use up all the funds you have until the resucue spin and the rescue spin can be crappy and make you regret for playi
 
Don't confuse the FREE Membership with the $100 DAILY Levy or $2k ANNUAL Levy
The Levy is imposed by the government to discourage Singaporeans/PRs from going to the casinos
It's either $100 for every 24 hours OR $2k for one full year/12 months.

"Membership" at the casinos actually refer to the FREE membership you can apply for to earn RWS GP points (RWS GP points don't get converted to dollars as they simply use up the GP points) or MBS Points which will be "converted" to Premier Dollars for spending but the earned points remain as points forever - it's only the PDs Premier Dollars that get used up/depleted
RWS or MBS Premier Advantage Membership are distinct/different from the Daily/Annual Levies !


Can explain to me how to earn these pts?

If you earn these pts can you use them to enter the casino?

I don't think it does anyone good when locals lose 100 bucks just to step inside the casino.
 
Can explain to me how to earn these pts?

If you earn these pts can you use them to enter the casino?

I don't think it does anyone good when locals lose 100 bucks just to step inside the casino.

At MBS points are earned either by playing at the casino or by purchasing at their retail outlets - Gaming & Destination Points.

Earned Points are then given a Premier Dollar PD Equivalence (Rate of 'conversion' depends on the Card Tier Level : from between 0.5 to 2x)
You can NEVER ever use these points/PDs for the Casino Levies as you'll never ever get S$$ from these ! :)
The PDs can be used for Slot Credit/Table Chip Exchange during such promos, at selected Restaurants & Outlets, to pay for Hotel Rooms, etc

Don't understand why people keep harping on that $100 Entry Levy - it's there and nothing much can be done about that since the govt. decided that it's there to keep away those who can't afford to gamble at the casinos etc
For crying out loud : just take it or factor that in as pure Entertainment Expenses for casino-gambling - just part & parcel of the whole package just as in going for some pricey concert/meal/hobby/etc :rolleyes:

The CHARITIES (besides the casinos which clearly benefit from your visits) benefit from the levies - so just know that you're still doing some good with some charity somewhere when you enter the casinos each time :cool: :p
 
Some newbie questions:

1. Payback percentage: does it apply to ALL machines (average) or to each machine? eg if PB 95% (one machine can have 90% payout and another 100% -> even up to 95%) ? What's the PB % of RWS - MBS?

2. Bonus rounds: Which machines have guaranteed good bonus round? I've played IGT, WMS and Aruze, the bonus round sometimes doesn't really pay anything. Does it set by the manufacturer (meaning other brands' machines have better payout in bonus round) or by the casino (meaning ALL manufacturers' machines have same chance of lousy payment in bonus round)?

So far, WOF always pay good for me. I've hit the bonus round more than 10 times in few days play (each play only last for 5 mins - hit and run) and I always hit the progressive (the lowest one usually and sometimes the mid one, but since I am just playing for 5 mins, it's profit)

3. Which machines have the most "ROI" for your bet? For ex,Sex and the city, max bet $3 and the top prize is just $x,xxx. Doesnt sound like a good return. AVP, max bet $40, when I was there JP over $1million. Good ROI? Bank buster $0.02, max bet $6, Top JP is mid $xx,xxx, good ROI?

1. 93% for both IRs, apply to ALL & EACH machines, this is the rule. And you may ask a few more questions:
since all machines with 93% payout, why I always win from WOF and not from Sex of the City? Answer: This is all about timing, it happens that you managed to get a "Right Timing" machine at WOF and not sex of the city.

why does a standalone machine payout more often than a progressive machine?
Answer: A standalone machine releases a lot of small hits but don't give you a BIG HIT, while progressive machine releases lesser small hits but give one BIG HIT when it reaches the timing.

How much do I have to "Feed" the machine in order to get back that 93% payout - Answer: Lifespan of the machine or 6 years!!! :eek: Let say a machine collected 1million dollar over the 6 years, the profit for the casino is 700k. The 0.93M were returned to players at different timing during the 6yrs.
The lifespan of a machine may be just 1-2yrs coz the casino needs to replace new games to attract players.

2. If I can answer you which manchine, I am "God of Slot"!
However, I can answer you who set the Bonus round - it is PRNG (see wiki) and how much a bonus round should payout is "told by" that "93% chip".

WOF basically don't have have bonus spins, it only has progressive prize feature spin. Maybe you have luck at WOF? :rolleyes:

3. Sex and the city 5cts- Not Good ROI, but think again, it releases the top prize 2k-3k daily or 2 days once while other progressive machines release the top prize once a week / month / year or even not release till date, eg AVP, so what say you?
Bankbuster - My personal view - this is the worst ROI of all Aristocrat hyberlink machines.

We don't use ROI for slot games and the most "dangerous" slot playing habit is to keep chasing after the progressive prizes, got it?
 
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We don't use ROI for slot games and the most "dangerous" slot playing habit is to keep chasing after the progressive prizes, got it?

Bro Kia,

You're a very kind soul and a very unselfish slot player who shares your knowledge and experience. I agree with you absolutely. I was playing the L1 CSY 5 cents and I hit ONE lucky feature and I had to match THREE identical features. Honestly, that was my FIRST feature!!! The kind lady had to teach me to press the blanks!!! And I simply pressed..I got TWO CSYs and I was so excited...In fact, the lady was more excited than me.The Grand JP was about $180K !!! But I ended up with Three Pandas = $100.00 only.Quite disappointed. The lady then told me that the Grand JP was around the corner and that I should continue. So this was when I slipped into the losing mode,chasing the Grand JP- the grand progressive JP!!!! And I withdrew and withdrew....and withdrew....and withdrew ...until I went bankrupt. Went home dejected,frustrated, angry and utterly in the dumps.I've just lost a fortune chasing the Grand Progressive JP!!!! I've learnt my lesson. Limite your losses and your play.If you are lucky, you will strike. If you're not lucky, fight another day. If you start chasing after the Grand JP and hoping for more Features and Lucky Strike, it's the path to hell....

Since the massive losses, I've stopped going to the casino now....just too painful the massive losses...almost all my savings and my annual salary!!!! Very painful!!!!

Thank you Bro Kia.You're a kind, sympathetic,honest and helpful man. I wish you luck. I hope you will strike the BIG BIG JP one day. And to all my fellow slots players, please take note the kind advice from Bro Kia.

The Grand JP always looks very tempting and very attractive.Once you're caught in the spider web, you're as good as dead.

Anyway, GOOD LUCK to everyone who is still playing the slots....and please take care. Cheers!!!!!!
 
I reached MBS around 4.30pm after my Sat lunch function
Exchanged my probably last couple $175 Slot Credits [since balance below $500PD now] and went over to the CE Area after seeing that those Fatt Choi slots I wished to play were fully occupied :(

Only played a very brief round at a CE 5Dragon slot then went to my 2nd fav Fortune King slot where I played for over 2 hrs
The CE Grand JP now over 80k [and Fafafa Grand JP close to 200k]
Actually with the $175 Slot Credit and plying 'small' at just 30 & 60 credits [and briefly 150 credits at intervals] I did manage to print out over-$200 tickets TWICE [once was bc I won the MINOR JP of >$200] and an over-$100 ticket ONCE
Had I stopped immediately after striking the MINOR JP, would have retained this $200++ win
BUT since I wanted to play on, all the winnings got lost as usual :p :o
I also lost some $70 additional $$ in my wallet after the $175 Slot Credits :p
But NO REGRETS as I ENJOYED today's slot play - even had 5 full ingots which paid out well over 1k credits alone

Next casino visit probably only after mid-week or so next week
then my probably very last MBS Room Stay on Sun 31st at a Club Room $530 from the July from $250++ Room Offer Promo
{fully paid for by my earned balance $550 Room Certificates - in fact there will be some 'overpayment of some $20' too from my Room Certificate so no need to touch my PDs here when checking out :cool:}

After this : will visit MBS ONLY when I feel good/lucky and have more than adequate spare playing funds - Daily Levy Single Trip :)
 
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