Bro, I am nearing 55 and sure know what the machines were for and where they were located. Sex machines for mass orgies was merely a joke.
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Singapore's hidden history
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Bro, I am nearing 55 and sure know what the machines were for and where they were located. Sex machines for mass orgies was merely a joke.
Hidden History - 1968 - Fruit pickers in SAFTI training area Killed
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It was in the morning of a fine day in July 1968 when more than 10 people including old people in their 60s went out on an outing.
They lived in the village of Kampung Bereh and were happily picking rambutans inside the training area of SAFTI, something which was commonly done by groups up to 20.
Suddenly, explosions started to rain down on them..... When it was over, 4 were dead and 9 injured, some very seriously.
They had apparently entered the live-firing-area without the knowledge of the Army, lured by the fruits.....
Up to this day, people still venture into the live-firing-areas just to get free fruits..... maybe you are one?
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It was in the morning of a fine day in July 1968 when more than 10 people including old people in their 60s went out on an outing.
They lived in the village of Kampung Bereh and were happily picking rambutans inside the training area of SAFTI, something which was commonly done by groups up to 20.
Suddenly, explosions started to rain down on them..... When it was over, 4 were dead and 9 injured, some very seriously.
They had apparently entered the live-firing-area without the knowledge of the Army, lured by the fruits.....
Up to this day, people still venture into the live-firing-areas just to get free fruits..... maybe you are one?
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According to Winifred's father, Teo Joo Kim who was the former GM/Director of Kuok Bros the murderer/s was/were foreign workers.
Then, Old Holland Road was cemetery land with clusters of foreign workers' quarters.
CID Jagjit Singh a family friend of the Teos promised at her wake at Maryland Drive to find the murderer/s, but to no avail.
Bloody murderer/s could have retired in India or Bangladesh.
Interesting ST Front Page!
Saw a Patek Philippe ad, ST daily sale at 175000 then and TOTO results!
Saw a Patek Philippe ad, ST daily sale at 175000 then and TOTO results!
I think you are referring to Gene Koh who was murdered for his red MG by Freddy Tan. Gene was son of millionaire contractor Koh Bok Tai. Sad story. Freddy Tan was sentenced to life for it. The father was so greatful that he left soft drinks at his guardhouse for coppers who wanted refreshments during their patrols along Pierce Road.
In those days, nursing attracted best, the brightest and the beautiful as the opportunity to travel to London was high. It was a well regarded profession. Naturally they were also gatal and the parties were wild.
Htolas is right not with the machines but what the nurses were up to. Many married expats or British servicemen based here.
In those days, a nurse spoke very well and had a good command of english.
Htolas is right not with the machines but what the nurses were up to. Many married expats or British servicemen based here.
In those days, a nurse spoke very well and had a good command of english.
Those who were at the scene after the incident told a slightly different story (apologies to his living relatives, if this narrative is wrong). The recruit, a tall gangly nerd just completed HSC before being drafted was originally from 5 SIR in Taman Jurong. He was one of the many excess recruits that 5 SIR had, and since the next door camp, I think 1st Artillery Battalion needed more recruits, he was transferred. Unfortunately the unit he was sent to, was already in the midst of grenade training which had not started in 5 SIR. Soon after the transfer, he went along with his platoon for live grenade lessons. The procedure as many knows was that after being given the grenade he was suppose to pull the pin and shout "Grenade" and then throw it over the bunker shelter. Then count the seconds 1 - 4 before getting into prone position to escape any shrapnels.
He pulled the pin and stood petrified, trembling and did not throw the grenade as instructed. 2Lt Tay shouted for him to throw but he was frozen, whereby 2nd Lt Tay decided to take the grenade by transferring it into his hand but still ensuring the grenade lever that held the detonating pin was intact. Holding the grenade behind him, he began to scold the recruit without realising that somehow, in the process of transferring, the lever had already released the detonating pin. The grenade exploded in his hand, damaging half his body at the rear and of course his hand was blown apart. The recruit escape serious injury and was almost unscathed as 2Lt Tay's body took the brunt and shielded him from the blast and shrapnels.
"“Rethinking the Who, What and When: Why not Singaporean Military Heroes?” Ho Shu Huang
Many Singaporeans recognise Major-General (MG) Lim Bo Seng’s name, but far fewer know who Second Lieutenant (2LT) Tay Siow Kai is. Second World War hero MG Lim has a memorial dedicated in his memory at Singapore’s Esplanade, and has been described as “Singapore’s best known war hero”. Yet, it was only recently, following a remarkably similar incident, that the heroism of National Serviceman 2LT Tay displayed while shielding a recruit from an exploding grenade during a training accident, resulting in his death, attracted renewed attention. The question at hand should not be whose contributions were more heroic but rather, how uncritical the appropriation of MG Lim as a war hero in the Singaporean national narrative has hitherto been. MG Lim was not Singaporean and considered himself an overseas Chinese nationalist patriot, trained by the British, and posthumously commissioned a Major-General by the Kuomingtang (KMT). 2LT Tay, on the other hand, was a true-blue Singapore citizen, trained by its own military, serving a country he would have undoubtedly, and immediately, called home. Why then is 2LT Tay absent from Singapore’s national narrative, yet MG Lim loom so large? This paper makes two main arguments. First, MG Lim’s appropriation as a Singapore war hero is unnatural. That title in fact is instructive – MG Lim can at best be a Singapore war hero, never a Singaporean one. The historical components of the person, event and period must be enlarged by paying attention to the stories of the ordinary, what some have referred to as the “underside” of history, so that more appropriate “military heroes” may emerge. Second, there will be a need for new military heroes from below. As younger generations become increasingly wary of the existing Singapore Story, new chapters of the national narrative have to be written about a comparatively less tumultuous present. The fixation on the larger- than-life personality and the historically grand event may be detrimental to nation-building in the long- term."
He pulled the pin and stood petrified, trembling and did not throw the grenade as instructed. 2Lt Tay shouted for him to throw but he was frozen, whereby 2nd Lt Tay decided to take the grenade by transferring it into his hand but still ensuring the grenade lever that held the detonating pin was intact. Holding the grenade behind him, he began to scold the recruit without realising that somehow, in the process of transferring, the lever had already released the detonating pin. The grenade exploded in his hand, damaging half his body at the rear and of course his hand was blown apart. The recruit escape serious injury and was almost unscathed as 2Lt Tay's body took the brunt and shielded him from the blast and shrapnels.
"“Rethinking the Who, What and When: Why not Singaporean Military Heroes?” Ho Shu Huang
Many Singaporeans recognise Major-General (MG) Lim Bo Seng’s name, but far fewer know who Second Lieutenant (2LT) Tay Siow Kai is. Second World War hero MG Lim has a memorial dedicated in his memory at Singapore’s Esplanade, and has been described as “Singapore’s best known war hero”. Yet, it was only recently, following a remarkably similar incident, that the heroism of National Serviceman 2LT Tay displayed while shielding a recruit from an exploding grenade during a training accident, resulting in his death, attracted renewed attention. The question at hand should not be whose contributions were more heroic but rather, how uncritical the appropriation of MG Lim as a war hero in the Singaporean national narrative has hitherto been. MG Lim was not Singaporean and considered himself an overseas Chinese nationalist patriot, trained by the British, and posthumously commissioned a Major-General by the Kuomingtang (KMT). 2LT Tay, on the other hand, was a true-blue Singapore citizen, trained by its own military, serving a country he would have undoubtedly, and immediately, called home. Why then is 2LT Tay absent from Singapore’s national narrative, yet MG Lim loom so large? This paper makes two main arguments. First, MG Lim’s appropriation as a Singapore war hero is unnatural. That title in fact is instructive – MG Lim can at best be a Singapore war hero, never a Singaporean one. The historical components of the person, event and period must be enlarged by paying attention to the stories of the ordinary, what some have referred to as the “underside” of history, so that more appropriate “military heroes” may emerge. Second, there will be a need for new military heroes from below. As younger generations become increasingly wary of the existing Singapore Story, new chapters of the national narrative have to be written about a comparatively less tumultuous present. The fixation on the larger- than-life personality and the historically grand event may be detrimental to nation-building in the long- term."
Anybody can remember the Charlton Rd (off Upp. Serangoon Rd) break-in and gangrape of a nurse by kelings?
10 years ago an attractive lady jogger was also raped and killed in MacRitchie. I believe she was an accountant in Caltex or Mobile. Killer was also never found but word on the street say crime was committed by a bangla.
Another lady jogger was also kenna gang raped and strangled with her t-shirt in Bukit Batok nature park if i remember correctly. Also neber kenna caught.
i think we are talking about the same case. yes... it could have been Bukit batok, not macritchie..
I am absolutely sure the police put in 100% effort to trace the murderer. While JS was DCID, Goh Yong Hong was CP then. Goh's daughter was college mate with deceased.
I think there were Thai workers in the vicinity too. Some murder cases are easily solved, with glaring details left behind. Others much more difficult, especially when committed by foreigners.
If God is great, the murderer(s) should be struck by lightning. Or die a terrible death.
According to one of my ex girlfriends who used to work as a medical researcher, the police can determine the race of the assailant from Dna analysis. If the bangla/thai worker were rounded up for questioning during investigation, then the suspect is most likely from that group.
DNA science is amazing, it can actually work out your lineage and even if other race lines are present even though it occurred centuries ago.
Unfortunately it was too early for DNA analysis then. Singapore used to send forensic items for examination and analysis to Scotland Yard for serious cases including minute blood extraction.
DNA has also become a double aged sword. If the insurance companies get hold, they will price accordingly and effectively rule out those in high risk category even if they are fighting fit commando when the policy is sought.
Govt have rightly barred them by policy and thought but not by law.
Unfortunately it was too early for DNA analysis then. Singapore used to send forensic items for examination and analysis to Scotland Yard for serious cases including minute blood extraction.
DNA has also become a double aged sword. If the insurance companies get hold, they will price accordingly and effectively rule out those in high risk category even if they are fighting fit commando when the policy is sought.
Govt have rightly barred them by policy and thought but not by law.
Without making light of the incident/era and the people associated with them, here are some perspectives.
The search for Singapore war hero is closely tied with the politics of this country. It does show that we are still in this bind.
If you know the details or followed history, Lim Bo Seng was a patriot and did what many did during the era. Unfortunately he was captured and executed before he could even carry his first operation. The British led the mission with a number of locals as well a Chinese raised and brought up in Scotland. Lim did the recruitment of some men and was their nominal leader but not the functional leader. The men from Force 136 however did some remarkable things and they are truly are war heros.
The true war hero was Lt Adnan of the Malay regiment who fought valiantly at Pasir Panjang Ridge. Unfortunately he is of the wrong colour and politically not in the zone.
There has been many attempts by the Govt and SAF to build up the Lim Bo Seng story and convert it into a book. Every attempt has failed as he died before getting into action. They finally relented and came up with a cartoon book. Cartoons after all takes up ample pages and even then it was a thin book. It was drummed up and was pushed thru many stores for years.
2nd Lt Tay is another unfortunate incident and our unending quest to find a genuine hero. He was in charge and he failed to determine if everyone has completed the dummy grenade training. He placed all his men in danger as a result. Though he made amends by his act. Lets face it if he did not die or was not injured, he would have charges of putting his men in danger. Similar incidents have happened over the years and the trainers and officers have faced charges.
I have not elaborated about Lt Adnan, his tenacity, what the Japs did and why the Japanese massacre at Alexandra Hospital is linked to Adnan and his men. It best that people do the research and find out for themselves.
The Govt finally relented after pressure from an unlikely quarter and they did something low key in order no to disrupt the Lim Bo Seng hype but it was meaningful. A small museum was finally put on site but 99.999999% of Singaporeans have no clue it exist. it was done couple of years ago.
If after 51 years of PAP rule and the Rajaratnam's pledge, we still can't seem to unite as a country.
The search for Singapore war hero is closely tied with the politics of this country. It does show that we are still in this bind.
If you know the details or followed history, Lim Bo Seng was a patriot and did what many did during the era. Unfortunately he was captured and executed before he could even carry his first operation. The British led the mission with a number of locals as well a Chinese raised and brought up in Scotland. Lim did the recruitment of some men and was their nominal leader but not the functional leader. The men from Force 136 however did some remarkable things and they are truly are war heros.
The true war hero was Lt Adnan of the Malay regiment who fought valiantly at Pasir Panjang Ridge. Unfortunately he is of the wrong colour and politically not in the zone.
There has been many attempts by the Govt and SAF to build up the Lim Bo Seng story and convert it into a book. Every attempt has failed as he died before getting into action. They finally relented and came up with a cartoon book. Cartoons after all takes up ample pages and even then it was a thin book. It was drummed up and was pushed thru many stores for years.
2nd Lt Tay is another unfortunate incident and our unending quest to find a genuine hero. He was in charge and he failed to determine if everyone has completed the dummy grenade training. He placed all his men in danger as a result. Though he made amends by his act. Lets face it if he did not die or was not injured, he would have charges of putting his men in danger. Similar incidents have happened over the years and the trainers and officers have faced charges.
I have not elaborated about Lt Adnan, his tenacity, what the Japs did and why the Japanese massacre at Alexandra Hospital is linked to Adnan and his men. It best that people do the research and find out for themselves.
The Govt finally relented after pressure from an unlikely quarter and they did something low key in order no to disrupt the Lim Bo Seng hype but it was meaningful. A small museum was finally put on site but 99.999999% of Singaporeans have no clue it exist. it was done couple of years ago.
If after 51 years of PAP rule and the Rajaratnam's pledge, we still can't seem to unite as a country.
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Yes,Bro,that was the first court case that I followed closely,I was very impressed by Freddy Tan's lawyer,a Mr Lee,it was very interesting case.
I remember that Freddy Tan purchased the red MG fr Gene Koh,but complaint of some faults,and he did not pay up fually,that led to quarral.
Freddy claimed that Gen koh insulted him as a poor guy with no money but out to cheat,hence the killing.
I remember that Freddy Tan was staying around Paya Lebar road then.
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