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[Sg] - Unhappy Sg girl with Malay boyfriend don't want to be Muslim but boyfriend's parents pressure her to convert to Islam.

I have learned to co-exist harmoniously with Muslims. As long as I apply a lower standard of intelligence, abandon logic, and up my stupidity index when dealing with them. The net result : everyone is happy. :biggrin:
 
I have learned to co-exist harmoniously with Muslims. As long as I apply a lower standard of intelligence, abandon logic, and up my stupidity index when dealing with them. The net result : everyone is happy. :biggrin:
So U just roll over and suck their dicks and offer up your ass to avoid getting beaten by them. Sounds like the 70% pap plp
 
Good.
The better translation is this:

But once the Sacred Months have passed, kill the polytheists ˹who violated their treaties˺ wherever you find them,1 capture them, besiege them, and lie in wait for them on every way. But if they repent, perform prayers, and pay alms-tax, then set them free. Indeed, Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Now that you've think you've found the verse, now study the context and the conditions under which those verse were issued.

You defence is full of flaws. You use 'who violated their treaties' as excuse for violence is lame which further sealed the stereotype surrounding islam is real. When the treaties are violated, killing is justified,haha. And don't make sense when Allah is all forgiving and merciful.

That would mean @JohnTan is not violent if he killed his employees who violated their treaties with him.
 
Muslims are guided by what is in it and if you do not follow this guidance, you cannot really call yourself Muslim. Now go find that verse!
We should seek guidance only from God.why you seek guidance from a book?
 
That is where you are wrong. Quran is unchanged and is the very words of the Almighty.

That's where you are wrong. During the time shortly after muhammad's death by poison, there were several versions of the quran in circulation. The main version that is largely circulated today is the caliph uthman's version. It is recorded in moslem records that uthman burned other variants of the quran that he didn't approve of.

Even today, moslems cannot agree on the exact number of words in the quran, despite one recent time of standardization in 1924 in Egypt.

Many have done and tried to falsify and issue fake Hadiths and Sunnahs. Easy way to identify them is that they contradict the Quran

Even your own 'prophet' contradicted his quran when he had over 10 wives at the same time while the quran specifically mentioned not more than 4.

This high standards are absent in other religions esp the pagan and polytheist ones like the Roman Catholic. They sre in so far as to go against their own book by worshipping idols.

Nice deflection, but it doesn't work. The moslem scholars have a habit of burning parts of their own scriptures that they don't like, like what uthman did. And aren't you the idol worshipper, bowing before a silly stone 5 days a times a day?
 
That would mean @JohnTan is not violent if he killed his employees who violated their treaties with him.

moslems constantly attacked people even if no treaty was violated. You can easily check the history of the Abbassids, Delhi Sultanate, Ottomans and other moslem empires.
 
moslems constantly attacked people even if no treaty was violated. You can easily check the history of the Abbassids, Delhi Sultanate, Ottomans and other moslem empires.
They were requested by the masses to liberate their cities.
 
moslems constantly attacked people even if no treaty was violated. You can easily check the history of the Abbassids, Delhi Sultanate, Ottomans and other moslem empires.

The Quran is the influencer.
 
So U just roll over and suck their dicks and offer up your ass to avoid getting beaten by them. Sounds like the 70% pap plp
I do it just to make them happy so I can get on with my life. I have bigger fish to fry in real life, hence i don't waste my time on the müds. FYI, I have no fear of getting beat up. I beat pple up, not the other way around.:biggrin:
 
I see that kuffar are jealous.

Truth triumphs over falsehood anywhere, anytime.

I pick truth over falsehood, so should you, no matter how much it hurts you lot.
 
If you love somebody enough, you will convert to his religion.
I have the experience of a close family wanting to marry a non-muslim. I just told the non muslim of the truth in Islam and he accepted. Easy. However you must be knowledgeable enough to answer his questions. Now, whether he ends up a good muslim, we leave it to Allah.
Did you tell him the part that the penalty for leaving Islam is death?
 
And where in the Quran it says that?
But those who reject Faith after they accepted it, and then go on adding to their defiance of Faith, – never will their repentance be accepted; for they are those who have (of set purpose) gone astray.

— Quran 3:90
Make ye no excuses: ye have rejected Faith after ye had accepted it. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you, for that they are in sin.

— Quran 9:66
He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief – on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.

— Quran 16:106
Say, ... hindering ˹others˺ from the Path of Allah, rejecting Him, and expelling the worshippers from the Sacred Mosque is ˹a˺ greater ˹sin˺ in the sight of Allah.

— Quran 2:217
O believers! Whoever among you abandons their faith, Allah will replace them with others who love Him and are loved by Him. They will be humble with the believers but firm towards the disbelievers ...

— 5:54
Indeed, those who believed then disbelieved, then believed and again disbelieved – ˹only˺ increasing in disbelief – Allah will neither forgive them nor guide them to the ˹Right˺ Way.

— 4:137
... whoever trades belief for disbelief has truly strayed from the Right Way.

— 2:108
You are not ˹there˺ to compel them ˹to believe˺, But whoever turns away, persisting in disbelief, then Allah will inflict upon them the major punishment.

— 88:22–24
But if they repent, perform prayer, and pay alms-tax, then they are your brothers in faith. This is how We make the revelations clear for people of knowledge. But if they break their oaths after making a pledge and attack your faith, then fight the champions of disbelief – who never honour their oaths – so perhaps they will desist.

— 9:11–12
They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them.

— Quran 4:89
 
But those who reject Faith after they accepted it, and then go on adding to their defiance of Faith, – never will their repentance be accepted; for they are those who have (of set purpose) gone astray.

— Quran 3:90
Make ye no excuses: ye have rejected Faith after ye had accepted it. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you, for that they are in sin.

— Quran 9:66
He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief – on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.

— Quran 16:106
Say, ... hindering ˹others˺ from the Path of Allah, rejecting Him, and expelling the worshippers from the Sacred Mosque is ˹a˺ greater ˹sin˺ in the sight of Allah.

— Quran 2:217
O believers! Whoever among you abandons their faith, Allah will replace them with others who love Him and are loved by Him. They will be humble with the believers but firm towards the disbelievers ...

— 5:54
Indeed, those who believed then disbelieved, then believed and again disbelieved – ˹only˺ increasing in disbelief – Allah will neither forgive them nor guide them to the ˹Right˺ Way.

— 4:137
... whoever trades belief for disbelief has truly strayed from the Right Way.

— 2:108
You are not ˹there˺ to compel them ˹to believe˺, But whoever turns away, persisting in disbelief, then Allah will inflict upon them the major punishment.

— 88:22–24
But if they repent, perform prayer, and pay alms-tax, then they are your brothers in faith. This is how We make the revelations clear for people of knowledge. But if they break their oaths after making a pledge and attack your faith, then fight the champions of disbelief – who never honour their oaths – so perhaps they will desist.

— 9:11–12
They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them.

— Quran 4:89
I wouldn't use any books to guide me. Just use common sense. Onky problem is pork. The way chinese cook the stuff is disgusting.
 
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