[Sg] - Unhappy Sg girl with Malay boyfriend don't want to be Muslim but boyfriend's parents pressure her to convert to Islam.

[Loofydralb]

The truth part is very difficult to comprehend as history normally written by the victors.
Love works both ways. If man love girl so much, he should accept her beliefs.

A true believer loves his faith more than he loves the girl.
All pussies are the same.

 

[Hightech88]

Stop reading at " my boyfriend (22) is Muslim. I'm freethinker (19) ".

 

[ThugSin]

Stop reading at mooselim and ishlam

 

[syed putra]

I've attended a few weddings where the muud girl or guy married in church. Usually, her entire family won't be there. It's not easy for the muud, because the whole family or clan will exert a ton of pressure to get the other side to convert to the mohammedan religion, but will not accept civil marriage or their own converting out.

Why marriage should be in a neutral venue if both are of different faith.

 

[syed putra]

A true believer loves his faith more than he loves the girl.
All pussies are the same.

if both believe in the creator, they are meant for each other. Easier to live with. If the guy loves his religion more, which has nothing to do with the creator, then better guy serve his religion and be a monk.

 

[JohnTan]

if both believe in the creator, they are meant for each other. Easier to live with. If the guy loves his religion more, which has nothing to do with the creator, then better guy serve his religion and be a monk.

No such thing as monk in the mohammedan religion. The religion wants more babies so that they can have more soldiers in future.

 

[duluxe]

I have the experience of a close family wanting to marry a non-muslim. I just told the non muslim of the truth in Islam and he accepted. Easy. However you must be knowledgeable enough to answer his questions. Now, whether he ends up a good muslim, we leave it to Allah.

(Part 1)
Non-muslim going to marry a minah: Encik, I heard Islam is violent!

Lofy: No! Islam in arabic means 'peace', islam is a peaceful religion. Have you ever heard of any other religion being known as "religion of peace"?

Non-muslim going to marry a minah: As far I know, no other religion is known as "religion of peace", you are right encik. My neighbor son's name is called Alex Smart and he is studying in MINDS. His son must be a very intelligent boy. Oh I finally got it, actually Islam is not violent.
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[Loofydralb]

(Part 1)
Non-muslim going to marry a minah: Encik, I heard Islam is violent!

Lofy: No! Islam in arabic means 'peace', islam is a peaceful religion. Have you ever heard of any other religion being known as "religion of peace"?

Non-muslim going to marry a minah: As far I know, no other religion is known as "religion of peace", you are right encik. My neighbor son's name is called Alex Smart and he is studying in MINDS. His son must be a very intelligent boy. Oh I finally got it, actually Islam is not violent.
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I like your sarcasm.
But I will answer him this way:

Are you too stupid like the rest and just swallow what others tell you or will you search the answer for yourself? Nah. Here is the translation of the Quran. Show me verses that show you Islam is violent because we Muslims are guided by what is in it and if you do not follow this guidance, you cannot really call yourself Muslim. Now go find that verse!

 

[Hypocrite-The]

I like your sarcasm.
But I will answer him this way:

Are you too stupid like the rest and just swallow what others tell you or will you search the answer for yourself? Nah. Here is the translation of the Quran. Show me verses that show you Islam is violent because we Muslims are guided by what is in it and if you do not follow this guidance, you cannot really call yourself Muslim. Now go find that verse!

Quran 9. 5.
And when the inviolable months1 have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakāh, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allāh is Forgiving and Merciful.
— Saheeh International

 

[JohnTan]

Here is the translation of the Quran. Show me verses that show you Islam is violent because we Muslims are guided by what is in it and if you do not follow this guidance, you cannot really call yourself Muslim. Now go find that verse!

You cannot call yourself a moslem if you do not follow the verse of the hadiths and the sunnah. You conveniently left that part out. Aren't there lots of verses of violence in those other two islamic scriptures? That's right, islam has at least 3 scriptures - quran, hadith, sunnah.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

You cannot call yourself a moslem if you do not follow the verse of the hadiths and the sunnah. You conveniently left that part out. Aren't there lots of verses of violence in those other two islamic scriptures? That's right, islam has at least 3 scriptures - quran, hadith, sunnah.

U just have to quote the Qur'an on the violent verses....there will be enough to last till the cows come home

 

[JohnTan]

U just have to quote the Qur'an on the violent verses....there will be enough to last till the cows come home

The hypocrite loofy is too ashamed of his other two moslem scriptures. Now he's trying to go 'full quran' only.

 

[duluxe]

I like your sarcasm.
But I will answer him this way:

Are you too stupid like the rest and just swallow what others tell you or will you search the answer for yourself? Nah. Here is the translation of the Quran. Show me verses that show you Islam is violent because we Muslims are guided by what is in it and if you do not follow this guidance, you cannot really call yourself Muslim. Now go find that verse!

1. You are asking a non muslim who has never touched the koran to show you verses, of course he will not able to show. When he can't show you a single verse, that will prove that islam is not violent and you WIN (100%) !

2. Any erroneous muslim (by secular morality standard) is automatically dropped off a muslim, lidat there are 100% good muslims. You WIN 100%

I like the ways you defence Islam.

 

[Loofydralb]

Quran 9. 5.
And when the inviolable months1 have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakāh, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allāh is Forgiving and Merciful.
— Saheeh International

Good.
The better translation is this:

But once the Sacred Months have passed, kill the polytheists ˹who violated their treaties˺ wherever you find them,1 capture them, besiege them, and lie in wait for them on every way. But if they repent, perform prayers, and pay alms-tax, then set them free. Indeed, Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Now that you've think you've found the verse, now study the context and the conditions under which those verse were issued.

 

[Loofydralb]

You cannot call yourself a moslem if you do not follow the verse of the hadiths and the sunnah. You conveniently left that part out. Aren't there lots of verses of violence in those other two islamic scriptures? That's right, islam has at least 3 scriptures - quran, hadith, sunnah.

That is where you are wrong. Quran is unchanged and is the very words of the Almighty.
Hadiths, and to the same extent, the Sunnah are human records of what was done and passed down by the prophet).
The Quran is infallible. Human records are. Many have done and tried to falsify and issue fake Hadiths and Sunnahs. Easy way to identify them is that they contradict the Quran.
This high standards are absent in other religions esp the pagan and polytheist ones like the Roman Catholic. They sre in so far as to go against their own book by worshipping idols.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Good.
The better translation is this:

But once the Sacred Months have passed, kill the polytheists ˹who violated their treaties˺ wherever you find them,1 capture them, besiege them, and lie in wait for them on every way. But if they repent, perform prayers, and pay alms-tax, then set them free. Indeed, Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Now that you've think you've found the verse, now study the context and the conditions under which those verse were issued.

Yes n mudslimes use the verse to justify their atrocities

 

[Loofydralb]

Yes n mudslimes use the verse to justify their atrocities

If they will not bother to learn and read the Quran properly then can you really say that Islam has guided their actions?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

If they will not bother to learn and read the Quran properly then can you really say that Islam has guided their actions?

Yes..they kill n commit crimes in the name of their God

 

[Loofydralb]

Yes..they kill n commit crimes in the name of their God

And if they do not go by the guidelines given, do you think god will accept their deeds?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

And if they do not go by the guidelines given, do you think god will accept their deeds?o

So you are saying the words of the Qur'an are 'Guide lines'?