Satanic Verses

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Usual satanic PAP shit ..... aft kena hammered in Serangoon Gardens by foreign workers dorm shit, Satan's prostitute now use taxpayers $$ to score pt, n guess wat ........... tis bus operators gonna up fee any way in few mths !!!! So taxpayers end up pay twice !!!!!! N who gain ????

Rot in Hell satanic PAP cultists !!!!!!

ST Oct 17, 2008
Seat belts for school buses by 2011
Govt to spend $35m to help companies retrofit their mini-buses to meet new safety requirement

MINI-BUSES that ferry schoolchildren will have to have front-facing seats and three-point seat belts by end-2011.

Other small buses, which hold no more than 15 passengers, will have till the end of 2013 to comply with the ruling.

To help bus operators finance the retrofitting, the Government will spend at least $35 million to defray the bulk of the cost of this massive safety exercise.

Those who run the 1,200 buses which ferry schoolchildren will get the most money: Up to $7,000 per bus, plus another $1,000 for booster seats if they ferry children below eight years old.

The rest, who run the 5,200 or so small buses, will get half of that.

The reason: School buses could lose as much as half of their capacity with seat belts fitted. Currently, such buses seat three children for every two adults they can carry.

The announcement, by Senior Minister of State for Transport Lim Hwee Hua yesterday, comes after much public debate following the death of Russell Koh, eight, who was flung out of his school bus in April.

The next month, Transport Minister Raymond Lim decided that all new small buses to be registered from April 1 next year had to have seat belts.

A consultancy hired by the Government found that occupants of bigger buses are less prone to injury in an accident because of the sheer size of the vehicles. Hence, there was no need for seat belts in them.

Singapore School Transport Association secretary Tan Nam Soon said the monetary aid will offset 'for a few months' the drop in income from the fewer passengers that buses can carry.

But in the long term, he 'hopes' parents will shoulder some of the cost.

Four years ago, child-care chain Cherie Hearts decided that the buses ferrying children to 12 of its 40 centres should be fitted with seat belts. Fares were raised by 10 per cent to 20 per cent. No such requirement was made for its other centres.

Cherie Hearts vice-president (administration & IT) Alice Ow said: 'The bus operators decided not to increase the fees significantly because they saw there were cost-savings too.

'They saved money on fuel costs as they would be fetching fewer children, and the routes would be shorter.'

The Land Transport Authority will arrange a list of approved workshops to undertake the retrofitting, removing the existing seats and even strengthening the bus floor if necessary.

New seats with retractable seat belts will be bolted on.

 

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Char tao Goh Choke "on" Thongs ST 19 Oct 2008 on how gov help Singaporeans particularly lower-income groups :

"We must do this in a way which not only eases the pain, but which also positions us to take advantage of the recovery later on."

N the result .....

ST July 12, 2008
30-cent fuel levy for cab rides from Thursday

ST Sep 13, 2008
Bus and MRT fares to go up from Oct 1

ERP rates to go up by S$0.50 at certain gantries from Feb 4
Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 28 January 2008 1735 hrs

ST July 14, 2008
School bus fares going up on Aug 1
Operators are proposing to charge $10 to $15 more, because of fuel costs

ST Jan 3, 2008
Hikes in 2nd Link tolls from Feb 1

ST Sep 28, 2008
Some SPH papers to cost more from Oct

ST Aug 30, 2008
Up: Subsidised ward charges

ST Feb 14, 2008
Varsities up tuition fees by 4% to 20%

ST Oct 7, 2008
SingTel fixed-line rates to go up

ST Aug 14, 2008
Piped gas prices to go up

Households to see average rise of about 21% in electricity bills from Oct
Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 29 September 2008 1035 hrs

I say evil PAP can take their kindness n shaft it up their sweaty spike ass in Hell !!!!!!!!!!

 

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http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=6920

but SG AVA say "satisfactory" so OK !!!! Malaysia testing std higher than SG !!! Wow !!!! AVA imply SG peasants eat some Melamine ok !!! Wow !!! SG food consider 'safe' as long as demonic AVA say so !!!! Neber mind the truth !!! Wow !!!!

Oct 17, 2008
Khong Guan, Pokka products safe
By Tessa Wong

THE Agri-Food and Veterinary Authority (AVA) of Singapore has said that Pokka and Khong Guan products here are safe, in the wake of regional food scares surrounding these products.

In a statement released late last night, the food safety authority said it has tested products manufactured by Pokka in Singapore, and biscuits manufactured in Singapore including those of Khong Guan, for melamine contamination.

Both types of products have produced 'satisfactory' results.

This means that either melamine has not been detected at all in the products, or that the products contain only minute trace levels well within the limit of 5 parts per million (ppm).

Wire agencies yesterday reported that Vietnam has found melamine in three milk products manufactured in a Singapore factory run by a subsidiary of Japan-based Pokka Corp. They were made using Australian milk ingredients.

The products are milk melon, cappuccino coffee and milk coffee.

Separately, Malaysia announced that it had found excessive melamine in some biscuits produced under the Khong Guan and Khian Guan brands. The contamination was traced to a raising agent, ammonium bicarbonate, which was imported from China.

The AVA said yesterday that ammonium bicarbonate is an approved food additive in Singapore. It added that it has also checked biscuits and crackers imported from Malaysia, and has so far found them to be satisfactory as well.

It also confirmed yesterday that the Republic is not affected by the bean scare which hit Japan. On Wednesday, Japan ordered green beans grown by Chinese firm Yantai Beihai Foodstuff off the shelves after a woman fell ill from eating a product that had 34,500 times the legal level of pesticide.

The AVA said Singapore does not import the implicated brand of beans, or any beans from Yantai. It added that it regularly screens French beans for the pesticide in question, Dichlorvos. None of the products here has failed the test so far.

China said yesterday that criminal elements were probably responsible for pesticide found in the beans, and cleared Yantai of any wrongdoing.

 

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Paraphrase : A little poison in yr food is ok, to eliminate it means U peasants must pay fer the effort ... U dun wanna pay, u die fr toxin, u pay u die fr hunger ... u choose

Evil PAP gov no $$$$ ??? But CB (Cheap Bread) Loong say :

"Fortunately we have built up a comfortable buffer of current reserves since the last general election which we can draw on if we have to run deficits over the next one or two years. Hence for now I do not foresee the need to draw on past reserves to finance deficits in the ordinary course of the government's business."

Excerpt ...

ST Oct 22, 2008
Food checks are rigorous, ongoing

THE Agri-Food and Veterinary Authority (AVA) continues to conduct rigorous checks on products to ensure that food here is safe, Parliamentary Secretary (National Development) Mohamad Maliki Osman said yesterday.

Responding to Ms Ellen Lee (Sembawang GRC), who asked about testing all future food imports for chemicals and contaminants, he explained that Singapore took a 'managed risk approach, not a zero-risk approach'.

He also said the AVA had not routinely tested for melamine in food prior to the scandal.

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No wrongdoingby local milk importers
TODAY
Wednesday • October 22, 2008

THE Agri-food and Veterinary Authority (AVA) is taking action against some food retailers for flouting the sale and import ban of China-made milk products, but it has not uncovered any unscrupulous practices by local importers so far, said Dr Mohamed Maliki Osman, Parliamentary Secretary for the Ministry of National Development, yesterday.

Dr Maliki replied that Singapore takes a managed risk approach to food safety. To test for all kinds of chemicals and contaminants would require “many more laboratories and personnel”, and cause food prices to escalate.

 

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Cover-backside Teo say ...

ST Oct 22, 2008
Soldiers' deaths: No foul play or safety lapses

Defence Minister Teo Chee Hean

Mr Teo said that in both cases, there were no lapses in the training safety system, negligence or foul play on the part of any personnel. Also, neither case was linked to medical screening.

He assured MPs that the safety of soldiers in training was taken 'very seriously'.

but so did fork tongue turncoat Vivian in 2006

Safety taken seriously during training of NSmen: Vivian Balakrishan
By Hoe Yeen Nie, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 18 September 2007 1745 hrs

SINGAPORE : The Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports Minister Vivian Balakrishnan said "We take safety, especially training safety, very very seriously. Every Commanding Officer has the lives of his men in his hands, and the purpose of training is to enhance safety.

So SAF take training safety very seriously means more NS men die ... may b the satanic PAP gov shld take training safety lightly n close 1 eye, then no NS man will die!??!?!?!

 

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Thanks fat ass Formula 1 KPI Iswaran !!!! At least some asshole in evil PAP gov admit tt raising utility fee is to maintain the margin of profit fer electric coys ... n not some bullshit 3 mths fwd backside formula !!!!

Looking for a cheaper way to power up
TODAY
Wednesday • October 22, 2008

Neo Chai Chin
[email protected]

HAS the time come for anindependent body to oversee electricity tariffs, to ensure that retailers do not short-change Singaporeans? Is there a better way of pricing electricity to benefit low-income users?

Seven MPs posed such hard questions to Senior Minister of State for Trade and Industry S Iswaran yesterday, in the wake of a 21-per-cent electricity price hike for households from this month to December.

An independent council monitoring how tariffs are set could provide reassurance to consumers, suggested MP Ho Geok Choo. It could be modelled after the Public Transport Council, which has a price-cap formula for bus and train fare increases. Currently, the Energy Market Authority approves SP Services’ electricity tariff rates.

In response to the suggestion by Mdm Ho (West Coast GRC), Mr Iswaran said we should not “overreact and set up new mechanisms and regulatory channels” as this would affect the perception of regulatory risk here. “If there’s more regulatory risk, you must expect that electricity-generating companies here will expect a higher rate of return than what they currently have,” he said.

Singapore Power — the parent company of SP Services — is regulated so that it does not earn a “supernormal rate of return”, Mr Iswaran said.

The company’s profit after taxation was $1.086 billion in the last financial year, and MP Lee Bee Wah (Ang Mo Kio GRC) questioned how one could ensure profits benefited not just investors, but also consumers.

The EMA — a statutory board under the Ministry of Trade and Industry (MTI) — uses international industry benchmarks to ensure companies earn a “reasonable rate of return compared to international standards”.

Singapore Power has to invest $5 billion over the next five years to enhance grid infrastructure, and “if they don’t earn what is considered a fair rate of return by industry standards ... they will be tempted to cut back on the investment because it is not in the shareholders’ interests and therefore not in the company’s interest,” Mr Iswaran said.

He added that the EMA is studying ways to improve the current formula for tariff-setting, and will also put up more information on price-setting on its website.

Non-Constituency MP Sylvia Lim asked if full details of the formula could be published,to which Mr Iswaran replied that “subject to any commercial confidentiality issue, I’m sure EMA will be happy to oblige”.

Ms Lim also asked if Singapore could adopt Hong Kong’s “more affordable” method of tiered pricing where higher prices are charged for electricity that households use over and above the average consumption levels.

Mr Iswaran pointed out that Singapore’s industry is broken into contestable and non-contestable segments, unlike Hong Kong’s integrated structure where electricity retailers are also grid operators and generating companies. Both systems have their pros and cons, he said, but Singapore’s approach is to reduce volatility for consumers.

Despite a 300 per cent rise in fuel oil prices since 2001, electricity prices here have risen by about 50 per cent. Asian countries index natural gas prices to fuel oil prices as there is no distinct market for natural gas like in the United States. Because three-month forward fuel oil pricing is used, high oil prices in July have led to a delayed increase in electricity tariffs, said Mr Iswaran.

On Nominated MP Gautam Banerjee’s concern that divestment of energy companies to foreign players could harm Singapore’s long-term interests, Mr Iswaran said Singapore promotes competition, and that the recent announcement that Senoko Power – bought over by a Japanese-French consortium – would power its plants with cleaner natural gas instead of oil was a good sign.

“We can expect market competition to continue exerting downward pressure on electricity prices without compromising the reliability and security of our energy supply,” he said.

 

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Mah Bowel Tan Parl 21 Oct 2008 :

"Singaporeans don't want to see foreign workers near their residential areas or using common facilities. This would set a physical limit on the number of foreign workers we can accommodate, which will limit economic growth, raise costs of doing business and costs of living in general."

Yeah yeah yeah ... so when R u gonna build a foreign workers dorm next to yr bungalow focking lying hobbit ?!?!?!?!?

 

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Once a convict-brain, o ways a convict-brain ... basically saying Parl has no rights to scrutinize how much the evil PAP rob fr the reserves lah !!!!!

The methods and the mechanics
TODAY
Shanmugaratnam gives details on how long-term rate of return is set

Wednesday • October 22, 2008

HOW are the long-term expected rates of return on Singapore’s investments to be worked out, and how will the process be organised? The questions are important in determining how much money the nation has available to spend, and they were at the top of MPs’ minds yesterday.

Finance Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam addressed these concerns in his round-up speech on the new framework for spending investment returns on assets managed by the Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS) and Government of Singapore Investment Corporation (GIC),

“I’m glad that the tone of members’ comments was to underline the importance of not over-spending on the basis of expected returns, rather than wanting us to spend more even when reserves are not sufficient,” he said. “I think that is the right tone of the debate.”

The Finance Minister said there were basically two approaches to how the Government could work out long term expected returns — and hence the sum available for spending. One would be to have Parliament decide. However, the Minister cautioned that “over time, true transparency and leaving things to the market of political opinion lead to a desire to spend more, to conserve less and to leave less for future generations”.

He said: “The second approach, which is the one we have adopted, is not to go for full transparency, but to insulate this process of determining long-term expected rates from political pressures.”

In this approach, the Government will propose the expected long-term real rates of returns for the President’s agreement.

The Government will ask the GIC and MAS boards to provide estimates of the long-term expected rates of return, which is “completely uninfluenced by the spending rules that the Government has employed.”

“The approach that we have adopted is an imperfect system, it relies on judgment,” said Mr Shanmugaratnam. “More importantly it relies of having the right people in the right places, in Government, and on the board of GIC and MAS.”

Besides that, the Government also needs robust checks and balances within the system. The Government cannot change the spending cap — 50 per cent of net investment returns, which include capital gains.

The Minister spelled out how the long term expected rate of return will be established, using the example of how the Dow Jones Industrial Average achieved an average annual return of 10.2 per cent in the last 20 years leading up to October last year, despite the tech bubble crash in 2001.

“Remarkable performance over a long period of time despite cycles in between,” said Mr Shanmugaratnam. “That’s what’s called a secular period in the investment world, not a cycle, but something that stretches across cycles.”

The boards will look carefully with the advice of their investment teams at what has happened historically, while bearing in mind that seasoned investment professionals do not believe this secular phases will be repeated. “They are not simply going to forecast into the future based on what has happened in the past. Judgment is involved,” :Mr Shanmugaratnam said.

The rate will be reviewed annually. “Where there is significant uncertainty over the outlook, the Government will err on the conservative side,” he said.

 

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Wooden Cock Goh CNA 22 Oct 2008 on impact of lesser foreigners working in SG :

"For when growth slows down, so do the incomes of Singaporeans, while the costs of living may rise. But if the government goes for growth, Singaporeans have to accept the increasing social costs of a growing foreign population in their midst."

Growth slow peasants kena, growth up more foreign workers snatch rice bowl, so peasants wage kena depressed, so wat's there fer peasants?

 

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Python Teo Ho Pin TODAY 23 Oct 2008 :

"People should not develop the thinking that whenever there’s a downturn, they can just stretch out their hands and expect to collect money from the Government"

N in the same breath .....

"With the credit crunch, some companies may be facing difficulties in securing project financing. SPRING Singapore could step in, for instance."

Focking evil shit head !!! Peasants shld not expect handout, but biz coys can get handout fr gov !!!! Burn in Hell focking evil hypocrite !!! Who was the dick head who said he wld vote fer him rather than SDP ???

 

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Wat a focking liar !!!! Non-chinese coys in SG oredy not hiring peasants, will more export fr PRC create more jobs fer peasants !??!?! How ??? U mean more shit heads civil servants working fer AVA to chk China food, toys, garments ?!?!?!

ST Oct 24, 2008
S'pore and China sign free trade pact
Beijing's first deal with Asian country expected to give Singapore firms and exports a big boost

BEIJING: Singapore's businesses and exports are set to become more competitive in the booming Chinese market from next year as a newly signed free trade agreement (FTA) between the two countries kicks in.

The landmark agreement, the Chinese government's first with an Asian country, will eliminate tariffs for 85 per cent of Singapore's exports to China from January. An additional 10 per cent of exports will be duty-free from 2010 onwards.

The Singapore exports covered by the FTA, which include such items as instant coffee, aviation kerosene and ornamental fish, have a total trade value of over $18 billion, according to the Ministry of Trade and Industry.

The FTA will also allow 'preferential access' for Singapore companies hoping to invest in China's health-care sector by allowing them to hold a 70 per cent stake in a mainland hospital.

Other benefits include the freer movement of businessmen and professionals between the two countries (see below).

'Eventually you hope more exports (would lead to the creation of) more jobs, and also more investments from China coming to Singapore to take advantage of the FTA,' said visiting Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong when asked how the agreement would benefit Singaporeans.

He and Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao witnessed the signing of the FTA yesterday morning in Beijing's Great Hall of the People. Both leaders praised the agreement as a major step forward in bilateral ties.

PM Lee, who also held back-to-back meetings with President Hu Jintao, legislative chief Wu Bangguo and Vice-Premier Li Keqiang, said that the FTA sent out a strong signal about the two countries' commitment to free trade despite the current global economic uncertainties.

Echoing this view, President Hu said the China-Singapore FTA highlighted the 'confidence and determination of both countries in further opening up and promoting free trade'.

Singapore and China began negotiating the bilateral FTA in August 2006, and wrapped up formal talks last month after meeting for eight rounds. Both sides are expected to meet regularly in future to review and update the agreement, such as by exploring the possibility of opening up new business sectors.

Spokesmen for business associations in Singapore hailed the newly inked pact.

Said Mr Dennis Ng, a spokesman for the Singapore Manufacturers' Federation: 'Businesses which import raw materials from China will benefit from lower costs when the tariff concessions kick in.

'More importantly, companies which have not ventured into China in a big way will be encouraged to seize the opportunity.'

For consumers in Singapore, the FTA will bring good cheer in more ways than one. As part of the agreement, Singapore will lift tariffs for all Chinese exports to Singapore.

Currently, only six Chinese products, mostly beers, are still subjected to such taxes. When these taxes are lifted, consumers can look forward to cheaper China-produced beers like Tsingtao and Yanjing from next year.

The FTA also allows Chinese health-care companies to set up wholly owned hospitals in Singapore, and approved mainland universities specialising in traditional Chinese medicine to conduct external degree programmes in Singapore.

China's Commerce Ministry said in a statement that the FTA would help boost bilateral economic growth, but gave no indication as to whether any Chinese health-care companies had immediate plans to set up new ventures in Singapore.

Looking ahead, PM Lee said he hoped the successful completion of the China-Singapore FTA would 'give a push' to a similar pact being negotiated between China and Asean as a whole.

China and Asean have been negotiating an FTA since it was first formally proposed in 2001, and expect to wrap up discussions by 2010.

'The China-Asean FTA still has a few pieces to be completed,' said Mr Lee. 'We hope that (the China-Singapore FTA) will give that a push, because you can see that Singapore has moved further.'

 

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Satan Lee ST 25 Oct 2008 :

"My own guess is if the banking system does not malfunction, then in three, four, five years, the world economy will be restored. If the banking system malfunctions, then I don't know, it will be a very difficult business."

Sheesh !!! U call that words of wisdom ???? It's like saying .... "My own guess is if the sun does not explode, then tomorrow morning the sun will rise again on Earth. If the sun explodes, then I don't know, it will be the end of Earth"

Clever ??? Ask the focking old Satan to fock back to Hell lah !!!! Non stop bullshit !!!! Only idiots listen to this mother focker who once say SG now in golden period !!!!

 

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http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=6920

but SG AVA say "satisfactory" so OK !!!! Malaysia testing std higher than SG !!! Wow !!!! AVA imply SG peasants eat some Melamine ok !!! Wow !!! SG food consider 'safe' as long as demonic AVA say so !!!! Neber mind the truth !!! Wow !!!!

Oct 17, 2008
Khong Guan, Pokka products safe

More than 1 focking wk aft Malaysia tested positive, now AVA then say Khong Guan n Khian Guan biscuit got problem !!!!! Wat a fock up agency !!!! N they oso down play the threat earlier on by saying SG KG biscuits "satisfactory" !!!! Bunch of evil liars n satanic fockers !!!!! Just like their satanic master Mah Bowel Tan !!!!!!

ST Oct 25, 2008
20 more products found tainted with melamine
Julie's products banned; Malaysia-made Khong Guan items also affected

MELAMINE has been found in 20 more food products, making it the biggest batch of items discovered by the Agri-Food and Veterinary Authority (AVA) to contain the potentially harmful chemical.

They include well-known products such as Lotte Koala biscuits and Julie's crackers.

Three of them are from China while 17 are from Malaysia, making this also the first time that non-China products available here have been found to be tainted.

Also among them were Khong Guan biscuits made in Malaysia. Khong Guan biscuits made in Singapore are still safe to eat, as well as other biscuits made here, the AVA said.

Two of the China-made products, the Lotte Koala's March Cocoa Chocolate Biscuit and Hello Kitty Strawberry Cream Filled Biscuit, should have been removed from shelves by now.

The third, an unbranded non-dairy creamer meant for re-export and never sold in stores or used in food production here, has been sealed in the manufacturer's warehouse.

On Sept 19, the AVA banned all China dairy and other products which may contain China dairy, such as confectionery.

The made-in-Malaysia tainted items, which comprise 12 Julie's products and five other brands, are to be withdrawn immediately from shelves.

The AVA has also imposed a ban on all Julie's products. Test results for other Malaysia-imported biscuits have proven that they are safe to eat for now.

The AVA has urged those who bought the tainted products not to consume them.

It has said that the levels of melamine in the products are low. For example, an adult weighing 60kg would have to eat 378 pieces of Julie's Golden Kaka Crackers every day of his life to be in any danger.

Melamine, a chemical more commonly found in plastic, has been at the centre of a worldwide food scandal which originated in China.

It was added to milk to artificially boost its protein content, and has since caused four infant deaths in China and thousands of others to fall ill with kidney-related sicknesses.

Dozens of places including Hong Kong, Canada, France and India have pulled China dairy products as a result.

As of yesterday, over 3,200 types of milk and milk products, chocolates, biscuits, non-dairy creamers and other products have been taken in for analysis.

The number of tainted items here has now more than doubled, from 13 to 33. They include ice-cream bars, milk candy, flavoured milk and crackers.

 

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Torture, illegal detention, strong arm hooligan man handling .......... under Wong Cunt Head leadership, n nothing happen cos Cunt Head is closely related to Satan Lee

ST Oct 22, 2008
MAN ARRESTED OVER 'DRUNKEN BEHAVIOUR'
'But officer, I was having a seizure'
Epileptic's mum claims she wasn't allowed to give son his medicine in lock-up

WHEN Mr Tong Mun Cheong woke up following an epileptic seizure on Oct 1, he found himself handcuffed and inside a police lock-up.

The last thing he remembered was waiting for a taxi in Sungei Road earlier that evening.

Mr Tong, 34, said a police officer told him he had been taken in for drunken behaviour and refused to let him call his mother for his seizure medication.

'I told them I had fits but (the police) didn't believe me. I asked them to take me to the hospital, but they said 'no',' said Mr Tong, who has been suffering from epilepsy since 1996.

After three hours in the lock-up without food, water or medication, Mr Tong suffered another attack.

His mother, Madam Er Swee Chew, told The Straits Times that the officers still would not let her son go.

'They told me he was having an attack but there were ambulance staff attending to him,' said the 67-year-old housewife.

She had his medication, but the officers would not give it to him, she said.

They also refused to talk to staff at the Singapore General Hospital who could verify her son was epileptic, she claimed.

It was only after Mr Tong's older brother spoke to them that he was finally released. 'Mun Cheong's brother told them that if they didn't release him, they had to be responsible for anything that may happen to him,' said Madam Er.

It was past midnight by then.

It is not the first time that epilepsy patients, like Mr Tong, have been arrested by the police on suspicion of unruly behaviour or drunkenness.

Mr Goh Keng Hwee, executive director of the charitable organisation Epilepsy Care Group, said his group has encountered at least five such cases in the last three years.

They were released when the police confirmed with hospitals and family members that they were epileptic.

Her son had been arrested before, in 1999, said Madam Er.

Then, officers allowed her to see him, she said. They also took him to a hospital.

Epilepsy is a neurological condition in which recurrent, unprovoked seizures take place in sufferers, said Dr Ho King Hee, 45, a consultant neurologist.

Mr Goh estimates that 16,000 people here have epilepsy.

Another patient, who declined to be named, told The Straits Times he was arrested by the police last month for brandishing a knife during a quarrel with his 15-year-old son.

He has no memory of the incident, as he was suffering a seizure.

While the behaviour of some people having a seizure may appear to be bizarre, drunken or disruptive, they are rarely violent, said Mr Goh.

Those around them should let the seizure pass and make sure the person does not hurt himself. If it lasts more than five minutes, they should call an ambulance.

Members of the care group are issued a card containing information such as their addresses, the kind of medication taken and their doctors' names.

Mr Tong had a card, but was not carrying it when he was arrested.

In a letter to The Straits Times Forum page on Monday, Mr Goh noted that there was a need for the police to recognise the signs of a seizure.

He said the care group had approached the Singapore Police Force in 2004 with an offer to conduct training classes for officers and recruits but it was not taken up.

A police spokesman told The Straits Times yesterday that they were looking into the case.

He maintained that police officers are trained to identify and handle persons suffering from various medical conditions, including epilepsy.

When contacted, the mayor of the North West District, Dr Teo Ho Pin, said it would be good for police officers to recognise the signs and symptoms of epilepsy.

He said that as officers would not want to be responsible for administering medication, the best thing to do would be to send the person in question to hospital.

 

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Torture, illegal detention, strong arm hooligan man handling .......... under Wong Cunt Head leadership, n nothing happen cos Cunt Head is closely related to Satan Lee

ST Oct 22, 2008
MAN ARRESTED OVER 'DRUNKEN BEHAVIOUR'
'But officer, I was having a seizure'

And read their letter below, can you find any word like 'sorry", "regret", "apologize", "unfortunate", "mistake"?? Hint : None !!!! Arrogant police force now confirmed fascist Gestapos !!!! May Wong Cunt Head n Ho Pai Kia rot in eternal Hell !!!!!!!!!

Oct 25, 2008
Epileptic case: Police will strive to do better

I REFER to Mr Goh Keng Hwee's letter on Monday, 'Police should cope better with epileptics' and the article on Wednesday, 'Man arrested over drunken behaviour'.

The incident occurred on Oct 1 at about 6.45pm. Police found a man lying on the ground in the middle of the road along Jalan Besar. He was incoherent and disorientated. As the officers were unable to find contact information on him to call his next of kin, they took him back to the police station for safe custody.

At the police station, he was able to inform an officer that he was an epileptic patient. However, when another officer interviewed him for further details, he was not able to respond and was silent. In view of his condition, the man was placed in a special holding area to be closely monitored.

At about 9pm, the man suffered a seizure. The officers present attended to him immediately and at the same time, summoned an ambulance. Upon its arrival, the ambulance paramedics assessed that the man was already in a stable condition and did not need to be conveyed to hospital. The man was subsequently interviewed and was able to give an account of how he wound up lying in the middle of road earlier. He was then released to his next of kin at about 12.40am on Oct 2.

Since 2004, police have contracted a professional private medical group to develop training packages for our personnel in identifying and managing individuals suffering from epilepsy. Police will contact the Epilepsy Care Group to explore its views and ideas as to how procedures can be improved in such situations.

We fully empathise with the family's anxiety and have explained matters to them. We have reviewed the case and agree we could have handled the situation better, including how we could have put the man in touch with his family expeditiously as well as refer to a doctor the request by his family for him to take the medicine the family later took to the station. On this, we will strive to do better.

DSP Paul Tay (focking son of Satan's booger)
Assistant Director (Media Relations)
Singapore Police Force

 

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Satan Lee ST 25 Oct 2008 saying Singaporeans today have higher aspirations and are better educated than in the past, but that has also led some to believe that they know better than the Cabinet ministers

"You can see it in the letters to the press, which isn't a bad thing provided they understand that they may not be right, because the ministers aren't stupid."

Wow !!!! Insulting people by saying evil PAP cultists elitist fascist Ministars the smartest AND peasants really stoopid even aft SG education. Hail Satan Lee !! Hail Hitler !!!!

 

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Satan Lee CNA 24 Oct 2008 :

"I have explained this. I think I lost votes after I explained the awful truth. Nobody believed it, but slowly it dawned on them, especially the graduates, that yes, you marry a non-graduate, then you worry about whether or not your son or daughter is going to make it to the university."

Wow !!!! Insulting people with less than Uni degree (like poly diploma, O-level, PSLE) as hopeless peopla and failed parents!! Hail Satan Lee !! Hail Mussolini !!!!

Non-elitist pls leave SG to the Fascist Elitist Avaricious Regime of PAP !!!! Of course SG got FEAR !!!!

 

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COLOR="Blue"]Wow !!!! Insulting people with less than Uni degree (like poly diploma, O-level, PSLE) as hopeless peopla and failed parents!! Hail Satan Lee !! Hail Mussolini !!!!

Non-elitist pls leave SG to the Fascist Elitist Avaricious Regime of PAP !!!! Of course SG got FEAR !!!!
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Erudio bro,

Statements like that coming from him should be celebrated. It has a more potent effect than 10,000 posts that we can made to bring attention to his sick mind.

 

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Erudio bro,

Statements like that coming from him should be celebrated. It has a more potent effect than 10,000 posts that we can made to bring attention to his sick mind.

i read U loud n clear bro

 

[Erudio]

So their focking lies kena exposed by public n wat PTC do? Send out a moron call Vincent Chua to blame commuters fer making their own bus journey miserable !!!! Piece of focking human scum !!!!

N where is triple chin fat lard PTC chairman Gerald Ee ??? Got balls to make PTC report announcement, but turn into ball less sissy when got problem !!! Burn in Hell ALL MEMBERS OF PTC !!!!!!

ST Oct 30, 2008
Commuters dispute upbeat transport study
Difference in views could be down to way data is measured

COMMUTERS are disputing a report that says buses here run on time and are not overcrowded.

Two weeks ago, the Public Transport Council (PTC) noted that between last December and May this year, buses were late on only 25 occasions and too crowded only 28 times. It put these lapses against the fact that 260 bus services ply the roads daily.

But commuters who have to wait 45 minutes or more for their bus are far from convinced.

Administrator Chan Whye Chuen, for instance, said he often waits between 45 minutes and an hour for SMRT service 960.

The 54-year-old, who travels from his office in Bugis Junction to his Bukit Panjang home, said: 'My bus stop is only five to six stops from the start point, so I can't imagine it would take 45 minutes to get here.'

The wait is sometimes longer than the half hour the actual journey takes.

Other commuters have complaints of buses being packed to the rafters.

So what is causing this disparity in views?

PTC member Vincent Chua, a bus commuter himself, put it down to the 'personal experiences' of commuters: 'If you are counting on a bus to make an important appointment and it doesn't come on time, that makes a big difference to you and how you view the bus system.'

But it also boils down to a difference in how punctuality is measured: To the PTC, a bus is 'on time' if the computer at the interchange tracks it as leaving the interchange on schedule.

No tracking is done on the time it gets to each bus stop en route - the only measure that counts to the commuter.

A frustrated Mr Chan said: 'I know there may be delays on the road, but how can they allow their buses to run at intervals of more than 25 minutes?'

To this, Dr Chua's response was that the PTC's role was to balance the 'commuters' and operators' views'.

'We have to be fair to the bus operators and their long-term commercial viability...The delay on the roads caused by congestion is out of their control, so we cannot track them at bus stops,' he said.

The only way to deal with the problem, he said, was to have more bus lanes and bus-arrival panels so commuters can decide whether to wait for the bus.

When it comes to how crowded buses are, operators are supposed to ensure that the buses are no more than 95 per cent full during weekday peak hours.

To track this, the PTC uses information from the buses' fare collection system, and adjusts for commuters who pay cash.

Here, Dr Chua again put crowdedness down to commuters' personal experiences: 'If people don't move to the back of the bus, commuters in front feel it is really crowded. If they don't get a seat on several occasions, it affects their perception of how crowded it is.'

The PTC bases its reviews on computer data, but sends out inspectors to do spot checks on 'trouble spots'. The Land Transport Authority also conducts such checks.

If operators do not buck up, they are fined. Two weeks ago, SBS Transit and SMRT were fined $9,300 and $1,000 for service lapses - which commuters like business development manager Lynette Tan, 27, see as pocket change 'in view of these operators' huge turnover'.

To this, Dr Chua said the quantum of the fine mattered less than the 'signal' that the PTC sent out to operators: 'If they do falter on a lot of standards, the fines can accumulate to a substantial amount but the fact is, our operators really do a good job.'