RTS rapid transit system linking Johor and Singapore (MASTEEL)

[shctaw]

Single Track Rail.
A single-track railway is where trains in both directions share the same track. Single track is normally used on lesser-used rail lines, often branch lines, where the traffic density is not high enough to justify the cost of building double track.

Advantages and disadvantages
Single track is significantly cheaper to build, though it has operational disadvantages. If the single-track section is say 15 minutes long, the line would have capacity for only two trains per hour in each direction. Double track can allow up to 15 trains per hour in each direction if signal boxes are four minutes apart. This hindrance on the capacity of a single track may be partly overcome by making the track one-way on alternate days, if the single track is not used for public transit.
Long freight trains are a problem if there are not enough long passing stretches. Other disadvantages include the spread of delays, since if one train on a single track is delayed, any train waiting for it to pass also will be delayed. Also, single track does not have a "reserve" track that can allow a reduced capacity service to continue if one track is closed.

 

[FHBH12]

Mount Austin, Johor Jaya and Pelentong.

This 3 stations are 5 km apart. (from Mount Austin to Johor Jaya to Pelentong)

If you live near to this area; you are likely to be serve by at least 2 stations. Congratulation.

Note: This 3 stations are so close together with so little empty land; it is hard to project actual location. Give me a few days.

Thanks in advance! Double tracked stations will super huat.

 

[malpaso]

Mount Austin, Johor Jaya and Pelentong.

This 3 stations are 5 km apart. (from Mount Austin to Johor Jaya to Pelentong)

If you live near to this area; you are likely to be serve by at least 2 stations. Congratulation.

Note: This 3 stations are so close together with so little empty land; it is hard to project actual location. Give me a few days.

for your work done in this forum, m'sia should give you honorary citizenship.

 

[graveyard]

for your work done in this forum, m'sia should give you honorary citizenship.

Dato Tan Sri shctaw

 

[malpaso]

Dato Tan Sri shctaw

correction.. Tan Sri Dato' shctaw. Bigger title in front!

 

[shctaw]

correction.. Tan Sri Dato' shctaw. Bigger title in front!

Joke aside, invest blindly with little or no information can be deadly.
Just sharing my own research. No big deal.

Hope this thread will help prevent some investors been misrepresented by developer/agent claiming RTS will reach their development doorstep.

Wrong claim is common in Singapore. So I am sure it will happen in JB too.
And I can safely say a lot of buyers presume RTS at their doorstep, but "presumption" have to be throw out as investors should invest base on fact and not fiction.

 

[graveyard]

Joke aside, invest blindly with little or no information can be deadly.
Just sharing my own research. No big deal.

Hope this thread will help prevent some investors been misrepresented by developer/agent claiming RTS will reach their development doorstep.

Wrong claim is common in Singapore. So I am sure it will happen in JB too.
And I can safely say a lot of buyers presume RTS at their doorstep, but "presumption" have to be throw out as investors should invest base on fact and not fiction.

dont know how much to buy into this masterplan. Seems to me like holy grail of Iskandar

 

[ahhock24]

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JBCC Station
Danga Mall station
Kebun Teh station

Station approx 2 km apart, Kebun Teh station near holiday plaza?

 

[DCputeri]

Suppose they are above ground. Can be noisy if it is too close.

Single Track Rail.
A single-track railway is where trains in both directions share the same track. Single track is normally used on lesser-used rail lines, often branch lines, where the traffic density is not high enough to justify the cost of building double track.

Advantages and disadvantages
Single track is significantly cheaper to build, though it has operational disadvantages. If the single-track section is say 15 minutes long, the line would have capacity for only two trains per hour in each direction. Double track can allow up to 15 trains per hour in each direction if signal boxes are four minutes apart. This hindrance on the capacity of a single track may be partly overcome by making the track one-way on alternate days, if the single track is not used for public transit.
Long freight trains are a problem if there are not enough long passing stretches. Other disadvantages include the spread of delays, since if one train on a single track is delayed, any train waiting for it to pass also will be delayed. Also, single track does not have a "reserve" track that can allow a reduced capacity service to continue if one track is closed.

 

[FHBH12]

Close but not too close. I would accept 1-2 km distance.

 

[shctaw]

Singapore MRTs are super noisy due to bigger train and longer train length, RTS should be more quiet when in motion.

Suppose they are above ground. Can be noisy if it is too close.

 

[shctaw]

Close but not too close. I would accept 1-2 km distance.

300-500m is the best. Walking distant.

700m is a bit far to walk but still within walking distant.

Base on Wildwalk.com

Walking at 4km/hour (casual walking)

300m - 5 minutes (Best distant)
500m - 8 minutes
700m - 11 minutes
1km - 15 minutes (still OKAY)
1.5km - 23 minutes (not fun)

 

[Daydreamer]

Single Track Rail.
A single-track railway is where trains in both directions share the same track. Single track is normally used on lesser-used rail lines, often branch lines, where the traffic density is not high enough to justify the cost of building double track.

Advantages and disadvantages
Single track is significantly cheaper to build, though it has operational disadvantages. If the single-track section is say 15 minutes long, the line would have capacity for only two trains per hour in each direction. Double track can allow up to 15 trains per hour in each direction if signal boxes are four minutes apart. This hindrance on the capacity of a single track may be partly overcome by making the track one-way on alternate days, if the single track is not used for public transit.
Long freight trains are a problem if there are not enough long passing stretches. Other disadvantages include the spread of delays, since if one train on a single track is delayed, any train waiting for it to pass also will be delayed. Also, single track does not have a "reserve" track that can allow a reduced capacity service to continue if one track is closed.

This is how Isambard Kingdom Brunel started in 19th century isn't it?

Lets talk about 21st century shall we. Never mind the traffic, build a single track mean they can't look at the bigger picture or shouting to the world as "This area don't have a future". Suicidal?

 

[Daydreamer]

Singapore MRTs are super noisy due to bigger train and longer train length, RTS should be more quiet when in motion.

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Thats not a train. Thats a tram. Very European indeed.

 

[Newbie11]

SINGAPORE Lrt is quite quiet. 700m is probably the max most can walk in our weather

 

[FHBH12]

300-500m is the best. Walking distant.

700m is a bit far to walk but still within walking distant.

Base on Wildwalk.com

Walking at 4km/hour (casual walking)

300m - 5 minutes (Best distant)
500m - 8 minutes
700m - 11 minutes
1km - 15 minutes (still OKAY)
1.5km - 23 minutes (not fun)

I learn to think the locals way: <5 min (1-2 km) by car is near. Walking in public places is okay in Singapore, but I think it is not very safe in Johor.

 

[Chocolate]

Single Track Rail.
A single-track railway is where trains in both directions share the same track. Single track is normally used on lesser-used rail lines, often branch lines, where the traffic density is not high enough to justify the cost of building double track.

Advantages and disadvantages
Single track is significantly cheaper to build, though it has operational disadvantages. If the single-track section is say 15 minutes long, the line would have capacity for only two trains per hour in each direction. Double track can allow up to 15 trains per hour in each direction if signal boxes are four minutes apart. This hindrance on the capacity of a single track may be partly overcome by making the track one-way on alternate days, if the single track is not used for public transit.
Long freight trains are a problem if there are not enough long passing stretches. Other disadvantages include the spread of delays, since if one train on a single track is delayed, any train waiting for it to pass also will be delayed. Also, single track does not have a "reserve" track that can allow a reduced capacity service to continue if one track is closed.

I wonder if population density figures into the plans. Zone A is getting the double track while Zone B single, is it because Zone has denser population? Also do areas with a bigger population in Zone A have more stations and closer to each other ?I wonder also if the're prioritising commercial/industrial if the Nusajaya station looks to be nearer SILC?

 

[aliensmotor]

Your are full of imagination. Let's wait and hear for the answer after full survey end of this month.

 

[shctaw]

Your are full of imagination. Let's wait and hear for the answer after full survey end of this month.

It is already official.

 

[shctaw]

http://www.masteel.com.my/06/masteel-gets-ukas-go-ahead-to-finalise-funding/

Full official announcement between JBCC and Singapore connection will be publish by end July or August.

This are internal released and approved stations within Johor.

The stations I show are in Johor; nothing to do with Singapore connection.