Reason Why Singaporeans are Angry

[TracyTan866]

In Germany, it takes up to 4 years.
All advanced countries have respect for the trades.

But Singapore?

Is that you on the left?

Most bricklayers in SG are foreign workers and are unskilled

 

[neddy]

Most bricklayers are unskilled

The external walls of my house are bare red-bricked, after 15 years, they still look great!

In Singapore, plastering is used to cover up mistakes from brickie, and plastering is sooooo bad.

My Singaporean cousin came over to my house and saw the internal plastering, he almost want to hug the walls.

The trouble is that you cannot find such quality in Singapore. No one want to pay for it.

 

[TracyTan866]

The external walls of my house are bare red-bricked, after 15 years, they still look great!

In Singapore, plastering is used to cover up mistakes from brickie, and plastering is sooooo bad.

My Singaporean cousin came over to my house and saw the internal plastering, he almost want to hug the walls.

The trouble is that you cannot find such quality in Singapore. No one want to pay for it.

i hv high regards for aussie labour.

SG imports cheap, unskilled labour. the finish is shoddy. i fear that some buildings may crumble in future

 

[Leongsam]

so is a bricklayer in SG a labourer?

He could well be because we have bricklayers in NZ who are laborers too. The skill is in getting everything square and defining the verticals which is usually done by the builder himself. Once that is done, filling in the walls is straightforward and only requires the minimum of skills to follow a plumb line.

 

[TracyTan866]

He could well be because we have bricklayers in NZ who are laborers too. The skill is in getting everything square and defining the verticals. Once that is done, filling in the walls is straightforward and only requires the minimum of skills to follow a plumb line.

so you dont know the SG system?

 

[Leongsam]

Instead of going round is circles, let's see what a few dictionaries say about the term "labourer" / "laborer

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/labourer

1. (Professions) a person engaged in physical work, esp of an unskilled kind

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/labourer

[h=4]noun[/h]

• a person engaged in physical work, esp of an unskilled kind

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/labourer

[h=3]NOUN[/h]

• a person doing unskilled manual work for wages:

 

[TracyTan866]

Instead of going round is circles, let's see what a few dictionaries say about the term "labourer" / "laborer

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/labourer

1. (Professions) a person engaged in physical work, esp of an unskilled kind

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/labourer

[h=4]noun[/h]

• a person engaged in physical work, esp of an unskilled kind

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/labourer

[h=3]NOUN[/h]

• a person doing unskilled manual work for wages:

u r going round in circles, not me.

i already told you that most bricklayers working in SG are foreigners, unskilled and unqualified. there are in SG because there are cheap.

the same goes for construction labour.

I fear for the integrity and safety of buildings in SG built by these unskilled foreign workers

 

[Leongsam]

u r going round in circles, not me.

i already told you that most bricklayers working in SG are foreigners, unskilled and unqualified. there are in SG because there are cheap.

the same goes for construction labour.

I fear for the integrity and safety of buildings in SG built by these unskilled foreign workers

The question you asked was not "Does Singapore use unskilled laborers to lay bricks?". If you had I would have agreed with you 100% that it does happen very often.

You asked a generic question... "is a bricklayer a laboror?" hence my qualified answer.

However, I might add that as long as unskilled labor is used to construct non load bearing parts of the wall, the net result is more cosmetic than structural. If unskilled labor is given the job of mixing the proportions in the concrete and the plaster, then there could be a serious problem.

 

[TracyTan866]

However, I might add that as long as unskilled labor is used to construct non load bearing parts of the wall, the net result is more cosmetic than structural. If unskilled labor is given the job of mixing the proportions in the concrete and the plaster, then there could be a serious problem.

i agree with you.

that'swhy there are so many infrastructural problems from MRT maintenance to buildings to tecos, etc because the pap allows cheap foreign workers to replace qualified , skilled workers without checking their skills and ensure that their qualifications are authentic.

i wont be surprised that there are many fake indian doctors in SG. I fear being examined by any of them

 

[TracyTan866]

However, I might add that as long as unskilled labor is used to construct non load bearing parts of the wall, the net result is more cosmetic than structural. If unskilled labor is given the job of mixing the proportions in the concrete and the plaster, then there could be a serious problem.

read my post#192 and my apprehension

 

[turbulent]

Singaporeans are angry because they are spoilt brats. They don't appreciate what a good life they have thanks to the PAP.

When you coming back to appreciate the good life here?

 

[Leongsam]

When you coming back to appreciate the good life here?

I'm back every 3 to 4 months and usually stay for between 2 to 4 weeks. If Singapore had the same variety of trout fishing locations as NZ, I'd spend a lot more time there. Unfortunately it does not have the space to accommodate all that I enjoy.

However, when it comes to making money, nothing beats Singapore as the place to be.

 

[TracyTan866]

When you coming back to appreciate the good life here?

i hope he remains outside SG

 

[TracyTan866]

I'm back every 3 to 4 months and usually stay for between 2 to 4 weeks.

why come to pollute SG?

 

[TracyTan866]

i hope he remains outside SG

You feel discriminated in NZ?

 

[Leongsam]

why come to pollute SG?

I'm a director in a Singapore company. I need to pop by to make sure everything is in working order. I'm criminally liable for any deviation from the companies' act so I have to meet the accountants and the other directors periodically.

I try my best not to pollute the country. In fact, if there were more recycling stations, I'd be very happy.

 

[TracyTan866]

I'm a director in a Singapore company. I need to pop by to make sure everything is in working order. I'm criminally liable for any deviation from the companies' act so I have to meet the accountants and the other directors periodically.

I try my best not to pollute the country. In fact, if there were more recycling stations, I'd be very happy.

since you come back frequently, i am surprised by your ignorance of the ground situation in SG

 

[Leongsam]

since you come back frequently, i am surprised by your ignorance of the ground situation in SG

It's not ignorance. It's just that living in various countries has taught me that every place has its problems and every political system has its strengths and its faults and that all politicians are the same the world over and that a change of government will never solve issues such as poverty, lack of healthcare, injustices etc.

I therefore view Singapore with a different perspective compared to someone who has lived and worked there all his/her life.

Before I had experienced life elsewhere, I felt exactly the same way you do about the PAP and the Lee family so I fully understand where you are coming from.

Now that I have a basis for comparison, I realise that Singapore isn't that bad after all. In fact, it is one of the better places I have had the honor of living and working in.

 

[TracyTan866]

It's not ignorance. It's just that living in various countries has taught me that every place has its problems and every political system has its strengths and it's faults and that all politicians are the same the world over and that a change of government will never solve issues such as poverty.

I therefore view Singapore with a different perspective compared to someone who has lived and worked there all his/her life.

Before I had experienced life elsewhere, I felt exactly the same way you do about the PAP and the Lee family so I fully understand where you are coming from.

Now that I have a basis for comparison, I realise that Singapore isn't that bad after all. In fact, it is one of the better places I have had the honor of living and working in.

are you saying that your exposure overseas has changed your view of pap?

 

[scoobydoo]

ah jo is dismay dat 2 many sinkielan peasants take mrt @ same time ...

.
WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
hmm,
best announcement :
"Dear Passengers,
please move to a less crowded platform".