Ram Puneet Tiwary's re-trial begins

[Lee Hsien Tau]

Amidst a lack of coverage of the on-going re-trial of Ram Puneet Tiwary double murder, the latest we have of the scenario is:

1. The two murders were a few hours apart.

2. Tiwary profess he was cowardly fortified in his room.

3. Assuming that he had nothing to do with the murders, from the resulting brutality with which his room-mates were killed, one can assume motives which must have resulted in utterances accompanying the violence, which Tiwary must have overheard.

4. Tiwary has had enough time to conjure a story, yes? He will be questioned on what prevailed between the assailants and their victims, yes?

What do you think Tiwary will say in Court? This time he has chosen to take the stand, yes?

 

[Lee Hsien Tau]

Tiwary's task is either very easy or very hard, depending on which side you're on.


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Sep 9, 2009
Never heard of dispute
By Sujin Thomas

The prosecutor trying to convict Tiwary, now 30, of the double murders had pinpointed the rent issue as the motive for the brutal murders on Sept 15, 2003. -- ST PHOTO: BRYAN VAN DER BEEK


SYDNEY - IN THE days just before two Singaporean flatmates were murdered in a Sydney apartment, none of their friends or family sensed anything wrong.

Nor were they aware of any tension or disputes the two men had with their flat mate Ram Puneet Tiwary, who is now being retried for their murders, over rent or money.

The prosecutor trying to convict Tiwary, now 30, of the double murders had pinpointed the rent issue as the motive for the brutal murders on Sept 15, 2003.

Friends of the two dead men - Mr Tay Chow Lyang, 27, and Mr Tony Tan Poh Chuan, 26 - told a New South Wales Supreme Court that they never complained about any money owed to them. The pair also never mentioned that they never owed anyone any money.

On Wednesday, Mr Chaw Bak You, an Australian permanent resident from Singapore, said the two men never argued with Tiwary.

Mr Chaw, 34, got to know the others in the household through Mr Tay, whom he became friends with in 1994 when they studied engineering together at the Singapore Polytechnic.

He said that the only time any mention of money came up was about a week before the murders. Mr Tay told him Tiwary had gone to their real estate agent's office to pay the rent of $2,172.60 a month.

'Ram said that he had gone to the real estate agent to pay the rent but had an argument with the agent and that rent would only be reflected in the other housemates' bank accounts a few days later,' Mr Chaw told the court. 'Somehow, Ram couldn't pay the rent.'

Mr Chaw, who had previously lived at the apartment before Tiwary moved in, graduated from university and returned to Singapore in 2002. In late July 2003, he returned to Australia when he got his permanent residency, and stayed at the Barker Street apartment for about a week before he found his own place.

Mr Tan's petite mother, Madam Chiew Lee Hua, 55, who also took the stand on Wednesday, said she had last spoken to her son over the telephone on Sept 10, five days before the murder.

 

[Lee Hsien Tau]

Better some unknown Chinese Triads than your obvious room-mate.


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Sep 10, 2009
Victim 'in car with Asians'
By Sujin Thomas

Ram Puneet Tiwary is now accused of murder. -- ST PHOTO: BRYAN VAN DER BEEK


SYDNEY - ABOUT half an hour before he was murdered, Singaporean undergraduate Tony Tan Poh Chuan did something unusual.

Instead of walking home from the University of New South Wales or riding his bicycle home, as he usually did, the 27-year-old got into a car with a few Asians. Little else is known about the car, which was on the wrong side of the road, or its passengers.

But this much was clear: By 2.30pm on Sept 15, 2003, Mr Tan was dead in his apartment on Barker Street, a five-minute walk from where he was last seen.

Mr Tan's flatmate and fellow Singaporean, Mr Tay Chow Lyang, 26, was also found murdered in the flat.

Their flatmate, Ram Puneet Tiwary, 30, who claimed to have been asleep when they were bludgeoned and stabbed, is now accused of murder.

His lawyer, Senior Counsel David Dalton, had earlier raised questions as to whether the passengers and the driver of the car could have been involved in the deaths.

The lawyer told the court that the police never found the car, nor its driver and its passengers.

In court on Thursday, two friends who had been with Mr Tan on the afternoon of Sept 15 six years ago gave varying accounts of their brief encounter with him.

Mr Jonathan Choy and Mr Sean Murray told the court they were climbing up a steep flight of steps outside the lecture theatre when they saw Mr Tan.

Mr Choy said: 'He was powering through the stairs. He said 'hi' but didn't engage in a chat.'

 

[Lee Hsien Tau]

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Sep 11, 2009
SYDNEY DOUBLE MURDER RETRIAL
New flatmates were told a different story
By Sujin Thomas

Tiwary told the police at the time that he had been asleep during the attacks and had woken to find his flatmates dead in the blood-stained living room. -- ST PHOTO: BRYAN VAN DER BEEK


SYDNEY - SIX months after the murders of his two flatmates, Singaporean Ram Puneet Tiwary opened up to his new flatmates at another apartment, telling them what had happened that morning in 2003.

However, the stories he told, sometime in March or April 2004, differed from what he had told the police.

He had told his new flatmates he had been out, and that he returned on the morning of Sept 15 that year to find Mr Tay Chow Lyang, 26, and Mr Tony Tan Poh Chuan, 27, bludgeoned and stabbed to death.

But Tiwary told the police at the time that he had been asleep during the attacks and had woken to find his flatmates dead in the blood-stained living room.

During his opening address at Tiwary's murder retrial, his lawyer, Senior Counsel David Dalton, said Tiwary, currently in remand, felt embarrassed for staying in his room and not coming to the aid of his flatmates.

He said: 'He told untruths, not to the police, but to his friends.'

The murders took place in Flat 2 at 109, Barker Street, near the University of New South Wales, where all three were studying.

In a New South Wales Supreme Court on Friday, one of Tiwary's former flatmates from 39, Barker Street said the topic came up when she asked him why he had moved into their flat mid-way through the semester.

Tiwary, now 30, initially refused to talk. But when Australians Julia Mathams and Josephine Luk probed, he told them he had been the two dead men's flatmate.

The murders had been a hot topic on campus after students were informed of it via e-mail in the weeks following the two Singaporeans' deaths.

 

[Lee Hsien Tau]

Even Ah Bian gets life for graft; why not double murders?

AFP - Saturday, September 12

TAIPEI (AFP) - - A Taiwan court on Friday sentenced ex-president Chen Shui-bian to life in jail after a corruption trial he claimed was political revenge for his lifelong push to declare independence from China.

Chen, the first former leader to be convicted in a criminal case, boycotted the verdict in the Taipei district court, which also handed a life term to his wheelchair-bound wife Wu Shu-chen.

A court official said 58-year-old Chen -- held at a detention centre on the outskirts of Taipei since December -- was found guilty of embezzling state funds, laundering money, accepting bribes and committing forgery.

"Chen was using his background and position to cause damage to the country. That's why the court sentenced him to life imprisonment," court spokesman Huang Chun-ming said.

Hundreds of protesters rallied outside the court shouting, "A-Bian is innocent" and "Release A-Bian", using Chen's nickname.

Chen spokesman Chiang Chi-ming said the verdict was "totally unacceptable" and "illegal", blasting a decision to replace the judges in the middle of the trial.

"This is obviously a political persecution targeting former president Chen," Chiang told AFP.

Under Taiwanese law, a life sentence is automatically appealed.

The former president's son Chen Chih-chung got a prison term of two and a half years for money laundering, while daughter-in-law Huang Jui-ching received a suspended sentence for the same charge.

"We are very disappointed," Chen Chih-chung told reporters through his lawyer.

The verdicts marked the climax of a court drama that has gripped and divided the island's 23 million people for months.

Chen had blasted the trial as a vendetta triggered by his eight years in power when he was pursuing independence from China.

Taiwan has been governed separately from China since 1949, but Beijing still considers the island as part of its territory and has vowed to take it back, by force if necessary.

Chen has said that his Beijing-friendly successor Ma Ying-jeou was behind the alleged witch-hunt, a charge denied by Ma.

The ex-president's refusal to attend the verdict was a protest against what he considered an "illegal and invalid" ruling, his former lawyer Cheng Wen-lung told AFP earlier.

Chen, who stepped down in May 2008 after serving two four-year terms, was accused of misusing about 25 million US dollars.

The ex-president had admitted to using false receipts to claim money from the state, but insisted those funds were used for "secret diplomatic missions" -- not his personal benefit.

Chen had also said his wife wired 20 million US dollars abroad from campaign funds but that she did so without his knowledge.

Some legal experts had expressed concern about the handling of the case, including the court's decision to detain Chen before his trial and to switch the presiding judge.

Jerome A. Cohen, a US legal scholar and President Ma's former tutor at Harvard University, said that if there were an appeal, he would prefer to see Chen released for the time being.

"Every society has to protect human rights. This is a long process and a learning process for Taiwan. It is a very sad day, it is also a very important day," he told reporters.

The independence-minded Democratic Progressive Party (DPP), which Chen belonged to during almost his entire political career, said human rights were at stake given the length of Chen's detention.

"The DPP urges (the court) to immediately stop detaining former president Chen so he can have a fair trial," the DPP said in a statement Friday.

 

[Lee Hsien Tau]

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Michael McCrea's Sentence too light?

48-year-old Michael McCrea was given the maximum of 10 years for each of the culpable homicide charges - killing his driver, 46-year-old Kho Nai Guan and 29-year-old Chinese national Lan Ya Ming - and another four years for destroying evidence related to the crime.

Totalling 24 years, his jail term is to run consecutively with effect from Thursday.

McCrea pleaded guilty to the charges earlier this week.

Application by his lawyer to have the sentence backdated four years to the time when McCrae was remanded in an Australian prison was thrown out.

McCrea appeared shocked when the judge passed down his sentence. He told his lawyer that he wanted to appeal.

"That is truly a crushing sentence in my view. I am not only shocked but I am also disappointed. I will see my client with regards to his intention to appeal on Monday," said Kelvin Lim, McCrea's lawyer.

I find it hard to believe that McCrea's killings were not pre-meditated. Even though Singapore had to give an undertaking to Australia that McCrea would not face the death penalty - isn't his sentence too light? I think that a life sentence would have been appropriate. What do you think?





Old 01-07-2006, 04:57 PM
bernster
Junior STOMPer

Well, because Singapore is run by people who are not colour blind. Colonial servants, shall we say?

If you are an Asian, you kill, you will be hanged.

If you are a white man, you kill TWO people, you get 10 years each. With good behaviour, and holidays, and others, probably coming out in say 18 years' time.

Same with that doctor Adrian Yeo, whom the police spent so much resources just to force him to bring them some drugs in promise for sex, Yeo, an Asian, was found with 0.16 grams of drugs and termed as a 'habitual drug abuser'... and given what, 5 or 6 years? And stripped of his ability to practice as a doctor and plunging his family into debt.

This white man who was found with 0.34 grams (more than double) in his house.... will he be given 10 - 12 years? (double) Of course not!

Being white has its priviledges in Singapore.

 

[Lee Hsien Tau]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thio_Li-ann


Thio appeared as an expert witness before the Federal Court of Australia in the extradition of Michael McCrea to Singapore to stand trial for murder (2003), and as a consultant to a delegation of the House of Representatives of Japan (30 September 2002) and to the University of Warwick on academic freedom issues (2005).

 

[Lee Hsien Tau]

S’porean killed in Sydney got into an Asian woman’s car before death


Channel NewsAsia - Tuesday, September 15

SYDNEY: One of the two Singaporean students bludgeoned to death in Sydney in 2003 is alleged to have gotten into a car being driven by a young Asian woman shortly before his murder.

This was revealed in the ongoing trial of Ram Tiwary, who is accused of killing the two students.

The Singaporean who is accused of killing fellow students Tony Tan Poh Chuan and Tay Chow Lyang, said that he was told by an acquaintance he named as Yong Wei, that Tan was seen getting into a white vehicle at the University of New South Wales.

The sighting was revealed by Tiwary during a video—taped interview recorded on the day of his arrest in May 2004 and played to the court during a hearing on Monday.

Tiwary said the Asian girl was described as having black hair, but he had no idea who she was. There may have been two men also in the car, which could have been a small—to—medium sized Toyota or Volkswagen, he added.

"As far as I know, none of his friends came to pick him up of drop him off," said Tiwary during Monday’s hearing.

He also recalled during the interview that the other murdered student had cancelled an appointment on the day of the murders "because he had something very important to do".

Tan and Tay were later found dead in the blood—spattered flat they shared with Tiwary, only a short distance from the university where they all studied.

Tiwary, who is now aged 30, has pleaded not guilty to their murders.

 

[Lee Hsien Tau]

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Sep 15, 2009
SYDNEY DOUBLE MURDERS TRIAL
'Tiwary stuttered; in shock'
By Sujin Thomas

Ram Puneet Tiwary's then-girlfriend told a New South Wales Supreme Court that Tiwary stuttered when he spoke, which was something he never does. --ST PHOTO: PETER MORRIS


AT THE time of the murders of Singaporeans Tay Chow Lyang and Tony Tan Poh Chuan, Ram Puneet Tiwary was supposed to have met his girlfriend.

But when he did not turn up at the University of New South Wales - where they had earlier planned to meet - at 2pm on Sept 15, 2003, she sent him an SMS.

He did not reply. Ten minutes later, she sent him another text message: 'I guess you are still sleeping. Bye.'

When she got him on the line minutes later, she realised something was wrong.

On Tuesday, which was the anniversary of the murders, Tiwary's then-girlfriend Elvira Metiljevic, an Australian, told a New South Wales Supreme Court that Tiwary stuttered when he spoke - something he never does.

She said that Tiwary had finished work at 6pm the evening before and came home to watch TV with Mr Tan and Mr Tay before going to bed sometime after 11pm. It was not unusual for Tiwary to be asleep in the afternoon, she said.

Tiwary said he had been asleep and woke up the next day to find Mr Tan and Mr Tay both bludgeoned and stabbed in neck.

Metiljevic, who is of Bosnian descent, met Tiwary in 2000 while both of them studied at the university. The pair became a couple sometime between February and March 2003.

'His voice was very soft. He sounded like his teeth were chattering. It sounded like he was in shock.'

Ms Metiljevic then left the campus and headed to the city with relatives.

Later that evening, she briefly spoke with Tiwary over the phone again. Without going into details, he told her that 'something serious had happened' and that he would tell her more the next day.

 

[Lee Hsien Tau]

This guy is unbelievable!

How do you measure success with women? Must you be bonking one every other night? Hello, they were both married. Should they be sleeping around?

Tiwary "too ashamed" to reveal truth in Sydney murder case


Channel NewsAsia - Thursday, September 17

SYDNEY: A Singaporean, who is accused of killing two fellow students in a Sydney apartment they shared, said on Wednesday he told different stories about what happened because he was embarrassed to reveal the truth.

Ram Tiwary told police that he was asleep in the apartment when fellow Singaporeans Tony Tan Poh Chuan and Tay Chow Lyang were beaten to death with a baseball bat in September 2003.

But afterwards, he told friends that he was out at the time and had returned home to find their bodies.

The reason, he said, was because he was too ashamed to admit that he had hid in his bedroom as he was afraid to confront the attacker.

Tiwary revealed in a taped interview played to the New South Wales Supreme Court that he felt bad about not going to the aid of his friends and he hated telling people the truth.

He agreed that being an experienced soldier belonging to the Singapore military only made his position worse.

Asked about the blood on his hands, shorts and feet, he explained that he had checked Tan’s pulse and the victim had coughed up blood.

Tiwary also revealed in the interview that the two victims were seen talking to a pretty Asian girl outside their flat two nights before the murders, which he claimed was odd because neither had much success with women.

According to a note found in Tiwary’s bedroom, both victims owed more than $500 each in rent.

There was also talk at Wednesday’s hearing of a mystery man named Andrew who was believed to have owed rent on the flat. But the defendant said he had no idea who Andrew was.


— CNA/so

 

[saratogas]

Yet another Ah Neh with the gift of making Roti Prata, flip here and there!

Ram Tiwary told police that he was asleep in the apartment when fellow Singaporeans Tony Tan Poh Chuan and Tay Chow Lyang were beaten to death with a baseball bat in September 2003.

But afterwards, he told friends that he was out at the time and had returned home to find their bodies.

The reason, he said, was because he was too ashamed to admit that he had hid in his bedroom as he was afraid to confront the attacker.

Tiwary revealed in a taped interview played to the New South Wales Supreme Court that he felt bad about not going to the aid of his friends and he hated telling people the truth.

He agreed that being an experienced soldier belonging to the Singapore military only made his position worse.

Shame on U!

 

[Lee Hsien Tau]

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Sep 21, 2009
SYDNEY DOUBLE MURDERS RETRIAL
New evidence
By Sujin Thomas

New evidence has emerged in the retrial of Ram Puneet Tiwary (left) that one of the two dead Singaporean men frequently corresponded with a woman two months before the murders. --ST PHOTO: BRYAN VAN DER BEEK


In Sydney

NEW evidence has emerged in the retrial of Ram Puneet Tiwary that one of the two dead Singaporean men frequently corresponded with a woman two months before the murders.

Tiwary's lawyer Senior Counsel David Dalton tendered to a New South Wales supreme court on Monday, 22-pages of online chat messages between Mr Tay Chow Lyang, 26, and a woman in Singapore identified as Ms Jasmine Tan.

The correspondence, using chat application ICQ, was from between June 16 and 30, 2003 - about two months before Mr Tay and Mr Tony Tan Poh Chuan, 27, were found murdered in the Sydney apartment they shared with Tiwary. Both men were violently bludgeoned and stabbed in the neck.

In a 2005 police statement, Ms Tan, then 28, said that she had met Mr Tay in 1995 while the pair studied engineering together at Singapore Polytechnic. They lost touch after graduating two years later but began contacting each other again either via e-mail or ICQ in 2002.

In one of the messages, Mr Tay said to Ms Tan: 'Ranger paying my rent this month...so got couple of hundred dollars.. What better way than to share my joy with you.'

Mr Tay, who was married, shipped a parcel of coffee to Ms Tan. Months before, he had also shipped a bouquet of flowers to her.

The prosecution argues that Tiwary committed the murders because of back rent, amounting to A$5,000, he allegedly owed Mr Tay.

Tiwary, who was studying in Australia under a Singapore Armed Forces scholarship, was a commando in the army who had undergone a military ranger course.

In the chat messages, Mr Tay repeatedly asked Ms Tan to visit him, even calling her a 'medusa and nymph rolled into one'.

Ms Tan, who was in a relationship at the time, said that she was going to be jobless soon and could not afford the trip.

Mr Tay continued: 'Come alone...cheaper, better...The more I think of you, the longer my horns grow.'

 

[drifter]

he's definitely the killer alright....kena possessed by SATAN

did he talk drugs or played with kongtau?

how you know ? you are there ?

how you know he kena possessed by satan and not jesus ?

talk to drugs ? you think he like you love to talk to himself ?

now you believe in gongtau ?

 

[drifter]

SGPlians used baseball bats?

How many Sinkies here play baseball? LOL!

I tot recently some Asians/PRCs got smacked killed by some OZ brandishing a baseball bats?

wah, there's a serial killer on the loose....another OZ version of Jack the Ripper with a baseball bat?

or SGP sent out some agents to discourage people from migrating to OZland?

Damn so many possibilities!

singaporean dont play baseball here does not mean they dont play oversea if given the chance to try a new sport . hobby can be cultivated .

i dont surf or snowboarding in singapore but now every sunday i will surf during summer and snowboarding every winter ..i even pick up baseball when im here ....

 

[drifter]

why he need a weapon to study in OZ land?

i din have any when i studied there...

SAF providing trainings there?

stupid gayboy , dont you know that so many asian have been targeted by those aussie racists recently ? he needed a weapon for self-defence if something happens . when i travel to third-world country , i also keep a pocket-knife with me for self-defense .

 

[Jabba]

Guilty as charged!!!

 

[Lee Hsien Tau]

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Sep 22, 2009
SYDNEY DOUBLE MURDER RETRIAL
Defence closing address today
Accused's lawyer shows court online exchanges between victim and woman in Spore two months before murders
By Sujin Thomas

The defence submitted 22 pages of chat messages between Mr Tay and a woman in Singapore but has yet to explain the info's relevance. -- PHOTO: COURTESY OF THE TAY FAMILY


SYDNEY - IN A courtroom surprise, new evidence has been submitted by the defence in the retrial of Ram Puneet Tiwary to show that one of the two dead Singaporean men had frequently corresponded with a woman two months before the murders.

Tiwary's lawyer, Senior Counsel David Dalton, tendered to a New South Wales Supreme Court on Monday 22 pages of online chat messages between Mr Tay Chow Lyang, 26, and a woman in Singapore identified as Ms Jasmine Tan.

This was the first time that information about the private life of one of the victims had surfaced in court - on day 16 of the trial - and it was greeted with surprise by members of the jury.

Mr Dalton has yet to explain the relevance of the new information, but is expected to do so today when he gives his closing address.

The correspondence using chat application ICQ - retrieved by police from Mr Tay's computer - was from June 16 to 30, 2003.

It took place about two months before Mr Tay and Mr Tony Tan Poh Chuan, 27, were found murdered in the Sydney apartment they shared with Tiwary. Both men were violently bludgeoned and stabbed in the neck. Tiwary, 30, was originally sentenced to life imprisonment for the murders.

In a 2005 police statement, Ms Tan, then 28, said she had met Mr Tay in 1995 when the pair studied engineering together at Singapore Polytechnic. They lost touch after graduating two years later but began contacting each other again either via e-mail or ICQ in 2002.

In one of the messages, Mr Tay said to Ms Tan: 'Ranger paying my rent this month...so got couple of hundred dollars...What better way than to share my joy with you.'

Mr Tay, who was married, shipped a parcel of coffee to Ms Tan. Months before, he had also shipped a bouquet of flowers to her.
The prosecution argues that Tiwary committed the murders because of back rent, amounting to A$5,000, he allegedly owed Mr Tay.

Mr Dalton pointed out that Tiwary had told his friends that he had seen Mr Tay and Mr Tan speaking to an Asian girl outside their flat just two days before the murders. Tiwary said that was 'strange' of the two married men, because they were 'so straight'. Their friends said they were good students who rarely socialised.

 

[Maverick01]

commando sia..maybe he used his commando training to kill the two fellows?? This ah neh not bigger size then the two...how he can subdue them??? must be from behind attack also!! typical ah neh!!! and lucky bastard ah neh got ang moh GF somemore!!

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Sep 21, 2009
SYDNEY DOUBLE MURDERS RETRIAL
New evidence
By Sujin Thomas

New evidence has emerged in the retrial of Ram Puneet Tiwary (left) that one of the two dead Singaporean men frequently corresponded with a woman two months before the murders. --ST PHOTO: BRYAN VAN DER BEEK


In Sydney

NEW evidence has emerged in the retrial of Ram Puneet Tiwary that one of the two dead Singaporean men frequently corresponded with a woman two months before the murders.

Tiwary's lawyer Senior Counsel David Dalton tendered to a New South Wales supreme court on Monday, 22-pages of online chat messages between Mr Tay Chow Lyang, 26, and a woman in Singapore identified as Ms Jasmine Tan.

The correspondence, using chat application ICQ, was from between June 16 and 30, 2003 - about two months before Mr Tay and Mr Tony Tan Poh Chuan, 27, were found murdered in the Sydney apartment they shared with Tiwary. Both men were violently bludgeoned and stabbed in the neck.

In a 2005 police statement, Ms Tan, then 28, said that she had met Mr Tay in 1995 while the pair studied engineering together at Singapore Polytechnic. They lost touch after graduating two years later but began contacting each other again either via e-mail or ICQ in 2002.

In one of the messages, Mr Tay said to Ms Tan: 'Ranger paying my rent this month...so got couple of hundred dollars.. What better way than to share my joy with you.'

Mr Tay, who was married, shipped a parcel of coffee to Ms Tan. Months before, he had also shipped a bouquet of flowers to her.

The prosecution argues that Tiwary committed the murders because of back rent, amounting to A$5,000, he allegedly owed Mr Tay.

Tiwary, who was studying in Australia under a Singapore Armed Forces scholarship, was a commando in the army who had undergone a military ranger course.

In the chat messages, Mr Tay repeatedly asked Ms Tan to visit him, even calling her a 'medusa and nymph rolled into one'.

Ms Tan, who was in a relationship at the time, said that she was going to be jobless soon and could not afford the trip.

Mr Tay continued: 'Come alone...cheaper, better...The more I think of you, the longer my horns grow.'

 

[Lee Hsien Tau]

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Sep 22, 2009
SYDNEY DOUBLE MURDERS RETRIAL
A Defence Clutching at Straws
By Sujin Thomas

Ram Puneet Tiwary (left), 30, is accused of killing his Singaporean flatmates Mr Tay Chow Lyang, 26, and Mr Tony Tan Poh Chuan, 27, on Sept 15, 2003. -- ST PHOTO: BRYAN VAN DER BEEK


In SYDNEY

HE WAS already a married man. She, too, had a boyfriend at the time and is now married to him.

Their online relationship came under further scrutiny on Tuesday at the retrial of Ram Puneet Tiwary, 30, who is accused of killing his Singaporean flatmates Mr Tay Chow Lyang, 26, and Mr Tony Tan Poh Chuan, 27, on Sept 15, 2003.

Tiwary's lawyer David Dalton suggested that Mr Tay may have had romantic links with a woman named Ms Jasmine Tan, whom he knew in Singapore.

On Monday, a New South Wales Supreme Court heard that Mr Tay and Ms Tan met in 1995 while both studied engineering at Singapore Polytechnic. They drifted apart after graduating two years later and reconnected again in 2002 either through e-mail or online chat application ICQ. Through ICQ, they talked almost every day.

Logs of their chats from June 16 to 30, 2003 - two months before the murders - were retrieved from Mr Tay's computer by police.

Mr Dalton also suggested that this could have caused a motive for someone to commit the murders.

No way, said the prosecution.

Crown prosecutor John Kiely said: 'I want to get away from any suggestion that on that day Ms Tan or her boyfriend had anything to do with the murders.'

He said that Australian immigration records showed that Ms Tan had never been to Australia while her then boyfriend last visited the country from Aug 7 to 18, 2002.

Why the series of ICQ chat messages was kept out of the previous trial in 2006 drew a blank from police officers on the stand.

Under cross-examination, Detective Senior Constable Frearson said that no enquiries were made into any connections Ms Tan or her husband may have had in Australia.

 

[Maverick01]

thats like the stupidest defence lor..so now they gonna point their finger at someone who chatted with the victim on ICQ????????????????????

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Sep 22, 2009
SYDNEY DOUBLE MURDERS RETRIAL
A Defence Clutching at Straws
By Sujin Thomas

Ram Puneet Tiwary (left), 30, is accused of killing his Singaporean flatmates Mr Tay Chow Lyang, 26, and Mr Tony Tan Poh Chuan, 27, on Sept 15, 2003. -- ST PHOTO: BRYAN VAN DER BEEK


In SYDNEY

HE WAS already a married man. She, too, had a boyfriend at the time and is now married to him.

Their online relationship came under further scrutiny on Tuesday at the retrial of Ram Puneet Tiwary, 30, who is accused of killing his Singaporean flatmates Mr Tay Chow Lyang, 26, and Mr Tony Tan Poh Chuan, 27, on Sept 15, 2003.

Tiwary's lawyer David Dalton suggested that Mr Tay may have had romantic links with a woman named Ms Jasmine Tan, whom he knew in Singapore.

On Monday, a New South Wales Supreme Court heard that Mr Tay and Ms Tan met in 1995 while both studied engineering at Singapore Polytechnic. They drifted apart after graduating two years later and reconnected again in 2002 either through e-mail or online chat application ICQ. Through ICQ, they talked almost every day.

Logs of their chats from June 16 to 30, 2003 - two months before the murders - were retrieved from Mr Tay's computer by police.

Mr Dalton also suggested that this could have caused a motive for someone to commit the murders.

No way, said the prosecution.

Crown prosecutor John Kiely said: 'I want to get away from any suggestion that on that day Ms Tan or her boyfriend had anything to do with the murders.'

He said that Australian immigration records showed that Ms Tan had never been to Australia while her then boyfriend last visited the country from Aug 7 to 18, 2002.

Why the series of ICQ chat messages was kept out of the previous trial in 2006 drew a blank from police officers on the stand.

Under cross-examination, Detective Senior Constable Frearson said that no enquiries were made into any connections Ms Tan or her husband may have had in Australia.