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Re: MP Lam continues to digress, Fervane owners want refund, HDB to consider

Whether it is within sight or out of sight of the columbarium is irrelevant. Please don't be distracted by that turd Lam Pin Min.

The fact is that the HDB was being deliberately deceitful about the development of a 'Chinese temple' in that area, possibly knowing full well that there was going to be a columbarium, so people won't be put off about buying the flats.

This is dishonesty. This is deceit. This is FRAUD.

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time - AB linCON
 
Re: Sengkang "temple" - 3 Day Old $1 Company Can Win HDB Tender

Lam Pin Min can be the first user of the columbarium.

Burn him alive and chuck his ashes into a prime spot. :cool:
 
Re: Sengkang "temple" - 3 Day Old $1 Company Can Win HDB Tender

Lam Pin Min can be the first user of the columbarium.

Burn him alive and chuck his ashes into a prime spot. :cool:

No, no, no. Lam will the be the first one.

There is one waiting right at the front of the queue.

And you know the Columbarium will be named after him.
 
Re: Sengkang "temple" - 3 Day Old $1 Company Can Win HDB Tender

Ring a bell?

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Me thinks it is gonna be the start of the mega-temples...

At least those mega church and charity began life as real church/charity, this one sounds like a funeral company now dressed up as a temple. Another good work of foreign talent.
 
Re: Sengkang "temple" - 3 Day Old $1 Company Can Win HDB Tender

That's a very interesting looking 'Chinese temple'... in fact it looks like Jurong East's Big Box mall with a a little Buddhist decoration. :rolleyes:

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How can a non registered religious organisation win a tender for land to build temple? HDB really no standard! Wait some cult start building a temple in disguise for their activities how?
 
Re: Sengkang "temple" - 3 Day Old $1 Company Can Win HDB Tender

HDB PULLS A JOVER CHEW AND BLAMES FERNVALE LEA RESIDENTS FOR NOT READING THE FINE PRINT




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PAP Member of Parliament (MP) Lam Pin Min said that brochures for potential buyers of Fernvale Lea had stated that a columbarium will be built but future residents who have bought their flats there have refuted that and said that they have been deceived.

Mr Lam had claimed" "Although (the plan for the columbarium) was indicated in the brochures, some of them might have missed it and felt that because they weren’t given prior notice, they could not make an informed decision," Lam also said.

However, newly-released brochures showed that this was not true.

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The brochure actually said, "These facilities may include other ancillary uses allowed under URA's prevailing Development Control guidelines".
But there is no mention of the "columbarium".

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Also, on the map itself on the brochure, it was only written that the site was reserved for a "Chinese temple".

But it was later discovered that the "columbarium" was only mentioned in very, very small print in font size 2 next to the map, beneath the notes section.
But this incensed the future residents of Fernvale Lea.

Was there an intention by the government to conceal the information that a columbarium was going to be built?

Furthermore, it was also discovered that Life Corporation, the company which won the tender to build the columbarium had actually won it in July last year, or half a year ago.
Residents are thus perplexed as to why they were only informed of plans of a columbarium only six months down to road.

Even as the HDB and URA had claimed that a columbarium was indicated on the brochure, the fact of the matter was that the government already knew a columbarium was built in July last year.

Why did it not inform future Fernvale Lea residents then? Also, why were the brochures not amended to reflect in right-sized font that the columbarium would be built?

Why did the HDB not change the mention on the reserve site from "Chinese temple" to "columbarium" or even "columbarium-cum-Chinese temple"?








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This has caused netizens online to compare HDB's actions with the now infamous Jover Chew.

Netizens have compared HDB with how Chew had made his customers pay a deposit before revealing to them about the additional costs hidden in the fine print and when the customers then asked for a refund, after having found that they have been cheated and scammed, that Chew would not make a refund.

And not only that, even where the consumers then made complaints to CASE, CASE and even the police both said that they could not do anything against scam retailers like Chew.

But netizens have said that HDB's actions aren't too different.

Potential buyers of Fernvale Lea paid a deposit to apply for the BTO but they were not told of a columbarium that would be built in the fine print.

When they asked for a refund, HDB would only say that "it would look into the residents’ request for a refund".

And when future residents asked to speak to Mr Lam, Lam only said, "We have to leave it up to the HDB and URA to assess the situation."

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Very clearly, the location of a columbarium is a sensitive issue and it is the responsibility of the government and its planners to highlight this openly and in right-sized font in the brochures.

It is thus irresponsible for the government to not mention this upfront.

It is even more wrong for Mr Lam to blame the residents for having "missed" the font size 2 mention of the columbarium.

Where the government would not state upfront clearly and boldly that a columbarium would be built, it is thus natural that future residents to question if there was an intention to hide the information that a columbarium would be built.
If so, the right thing to do is for the government to be transparent and honest.

But will the PAP government do so?
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Do you see lang tau lah! Pay up and fcuk off, you Stinkees! *hee*hee*
 
Re: Sengkang "temple" - 3 Day Old $1 Company Can Win HDB Tender

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PAP may lose Sengkang West SMC and a Minister of State

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The Straits Times report last Tuesday (30 Dec 14) sparked an outcry from young couples who are looking forward to their new BTO flats which are scheduled to T.O.P in third quarter 2015.Australian funeral services company Life

Corporation won a tender in July 2014 to build a Chinese temple with an integrated columbarium directly next to these new batch of BTO flats.
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This BTO project is called Fernvale Lea. Photo by http://sengkangzai.blogspot.sg/
These young couples are upset that HDB did not inform them upfront that a columbarium will be squarely next to their new flats. To this, HDB replied that they had informed buyers though printed fine print in the BTO project brochure that the land parcel besides the project may be used to develop places of worship which may include a columarium.

The PAP MP for Sengkang West SMC Dr Lam Pin Min who is in charge of the area where this BTO project is located has responded on Facebook and called for a dialogue session between Life Corporation and the residents involved but the outcome does not seem fruitful.

Dr Lam is also the Minister of State for Health.T

his issue will have have political ramifications for PAP. HDB website indicated that this BTO project Fernvale Lea was available for application in 2012, six months after General Elections 2011 when Dr Lam was voted into parliament with a 58.11% win over Workers Party candidate Koh Choong Yong.

Fernvale Lea is scheduled to T.O.P in third quarter 2015, way before the next General Elections is going to be held.

These unhappy young couples who will be re-registered as new voters in that SMC will bear grudges against Dr Lam’s for his unwillingness to stand on their side & HDB’s perceived craftiness which could result in a vote swing against PAP unless the Elections Department decided to redraw the boundaries of Sengkang West SMC by merging it with a neighbouring GRC.

This is the time for Dr Lam to show his new voters that he is on their side. But what are his options? I doubt he is able to twist HDB & URA to reverse the decision since a legit tender was awarded to Life Corp.The Workers’ Party should make use of these opportunity to build rapport with these affected residents to raise its own chances of capturing Sengkang West SMC.

However, opposition politicians must be mindful that they are unable to promise anything to these residents as well unless they could find issues with the tender which was awarded to Life Corp.About these ads
 
Re: Sengkang "temple" - 3 Day Old $1 Company Can Win HDB Tender

During the dialogue, a resident exposed that this $1 company was in turn actually owned by a $3 company!!!!!!!!

Fishy, and the rot goes all the way to the top.

"Australian" company in name, owned by a Chink.

Wow so the parent company also $3 only? Who is paying money to build the temper then? Are they going to look for investors to pump in money to build the temple?
 
Re: Sengkang "temple" - 3 Day Old $1 Company Can Win HDB Tender

Points to ponder:
1) Why is an Australian listed company building a temple in Singapore? Are they trying to monetise the religion?
2) Why is a 5 million dollar bid from a one dollar company accepted? You mean any Tom Dick Harry with $20 in their bank can also bid millions of dollars for government projects?
3) A company with upscale funeral homes as their core competencies, is fit to run a temple or columbarium. Even if they build 20% for placement of niches, but it can becomes 80% 10 years later. The government got away with it with out CPF, why am I not surprised if a run for profit organisation can also get away with their broken promises. Say only 20% when built, but as times goes by, to meet the changing needs of the population, build more niches. Sounds familiar?
 
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Re: Sengkang "temple" - 3 Day Old $1 Company Can Win HDB Tender

Points to ponder:
1) Why is an Australian listed company building a temple in Singapore? Are they trying to monetise the religion?
2) Why is a 5 million dollar bid from a one dollar company accepted? You mean any Tom Dick Harry with $20 in their bank can also bid millions of dollars for government projects?

Religion is always about money. Just that this time round they don't even bother to hide. Why? Because with the backing of MIWs, they can join in to screw Sinkies hard hard. :oIo:
 
Re: Sengkang "temple" - 3 Day Old $1 Company Can Win HDB Tender

Religion is always about money. Just that this time round they don't even bother to hide. Why? Because with the backing of MIWs, they can join in to screw Sinkies hard hard. :oIo:

That's true, but no finesse in masking their true intentions at all.
 
One question about Fernvale dialogue session.

Why is Lam Pin Min, the servant of Fernvale sitting along with the reps from HDB, URA and Lifecorp?

Isn't he suppose to sit with the residents and raise questions against them instead?

Hey 60.1%, open your fucking big eyes and see! :oIo:

Fucking Lao Chee Bye Lam Pin Min! :oIo:
 
Re: One question about Fernvale dialogue session.

Why is Lam Pin Min, the servant of Fernvale sitting along with the reps from HDB, URA and Lifecorp?

Isn't he suppose to sit with the residents and raise questions against them instead?

Hey 60.1%, open your fucking big eyes and see! :oIo:

Fucking Lao Chee Bye Lam Pin Min! :oIo:


ahhahahhahahahhahahahahhahahha good one

MP s there to SERVE the people, not for us to put them on a pedestal like a high FOOking being
 
Re: One question about Fernvale dialogue session.

Who are the Directors of Lifecorp ?
Background?
Any relationship with some minister's relatives?
 
Re: One question about Fernvale dialogue session.

Why is Lam Pin Min, the servant of Fernvale sitting along with the reps from HDB, URA and Lifecorp?

Isn't he suppose to sit with the residents and raise questions against them instead?

Hey 60.1%, open your fucking big eyes and see! :oIo:

Fucking Lao Chee Bye Lam Pin Min! :oIo:

Very pertinent question!Well said ! In fact the very first question residents of Fernvale Lea should ask their MP Lam is whose side he is on. The answer is obvious. By sitting with the reps from HDB etc. he is merely doing a PR job called damage control together with their assistance. As the people's rep for this constituency, he is expected to spearhead all their arguments and champion their cause but instead he is making all sorts of assurances without any guarantees. In the end, it's Lan Par Par Lan!:D
 
Re: One question about Fernvale dialogue session.

PAP Mps are voted in by daft 60.1% to torture their own ass.
 
Re: One question about Fernvale dialogue session.

JohnTan should be able to answer this one.
 
Re: One question about Fernvale dialogue session.

Why is Lam Pin Min, the servant of Fernvale sitting along with the reps from HDB, URA and Lifecorp?

Isn't he suppose to sit with the residents and raise questions against them instead?

Hey 60.1%, open your fucking big eyes and see! :oIo:

Fucking Lao Chee Bye Lam Pin Min! :oIo:

The best part of these, is, they voted for this Lam Pin Min, who is 'one of them' (LIFE CORP,URA, HDB), for the 'leopard spots' are hard to spot....you vote for a MP, whose interests is to protect the "business" & not yours...

It is 50 years, in 2015...we still have gullible people who vote for people who, serve only "other people's interests"....in other words, where there is the money...there THEY WILL BE.

Wake up PIONEERS, wake up....:rolleyes:
 
Re: Sengkang "temple" - 3 Day Old $1 Company Can Win HDB Tender

A new 1 dollar company. This is juicy. Why didn't the ST uncover this. Journalism in Singapore is sad sad sad.

There is no investigative journalism in Singapore.

If there is any write-up, more likely it will be done by pulling a wool over it.

This is the way Yakult wants it to be.. U hear the right stuff and read the right stuff...

AND WHAT CAN U DO ABOUT IT..???

This seems to be their attitude...
 
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