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Of Niches and Seng Kang West

Buddhists upset, the self-proclaimed $8 Buddhist Cow & MND must do the right thing

http://singaporealternatives.blogspot.sg/2015/01/sengkang-west-columbarium-saga.html

It is obvious (from the preceding paragraphs above) and expected that Life Corporation as a public listed commercial entity will be more excited and focus in how much money the columbarium can bring it. And to understand it a bit further, SFS is a company that provides PREMIUM Funeral Services with Mercedes as their hearse! It basically means that their services are meant for filthy rich people and I do not think they are going to provide its intended "state of the art columbarium" service to layman. It is basically a very lucrative BUSINESS to them, not the normal PUBLIC SERVICE kind of columbarium offered by traditional registered Buddhist temples.

I believe the Singapore Buddhist Federation must be extremely upset and unhappy. HDB has just allowed someone to make use of the name of Buddhism for commercial profiteering. This will ultimately make Buddhism look extremely bad! Buddhism is about the teaching of Buddha, not meant to be used as a commercial front to make money!. This is utterly disrespectful, if not blasphemy in essence. Rightfully so. No one, not staunch believer of any religion, would want their religion to be made used for making money. Religion, is after all, spiritual in nature.

I believe the tender for this land should be void and null. This land is only slated for Chinese Temple. It is not meant for commercial use. It is already a breach of the land use and LFC is profit oriented entity which cannot be classified under "Charity". If it was to be classified as "Charity", all its earnings from this Chinese Temple will have to be regarded as revenue for non-profit organization and should not be recorded as earnings for Life Corporation.

HDB and URA should do the right thing to right the wrong. It is totally disrespectful for HDB to allow a private commercial entity to make use the name of Buddhism to make money. Technically speaking, Eternal Pure Land should be disqualified for its tender because it doesn't qualify to be the rightful entity to run a religious place of worship, Chinese Temple.

It is really unfortunate that for a government statutory board like HDB, it lacks the sensitivity and strict regulation on who can and who cannot bid for land of different usage. Land slated for religious purpose alone will obviously require a more stringent qualification and criteria to make sure that whoever bid for that land, has the necessary qualification and ability to run the intended religious function meant for the land.

Coupled with the serious fault of omission of critical material information in its sales brochures, HDB has actually made two terrible mistakes in a row. Although HDB has put up a disclaimer on the brochures but HDB should not shy away from its responsibility of omission. The brochures did not specifically state "columbarium" but only "ANCILLARY" services which was not clearly defined in the brochure itself (only on URA website).

I would consider the first fault of disrespectful of Buddhism more SERIOUS than the omission of critical information to the BTO buyers. But nevertheless, HDB should be accountable for both of their mistakes. Null and void the tender to LFC, at the same time, make concessions to the BTO buyers in whatever ways possible.

Goh Meng Seng
 
Re: Public statement from Fernvale Lea residents, accusingMSM of biased reporting

Source: The Online Citizen

Resident ask private company, “How can you bid for this land in the name of a Chinese temple?”
JANUARY 5, 2015 BY TERRY XU IN COMMUNITY

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Original video source. Sin Rak Sin Party

Over 400 future residents of Fernvale Lea and residents of Fernvale link turned up for dialogue session called by Dr Lam Pin in, MP of Seng Kang West SMC after concerns from the residents came up to him about the planned Chinese temple and columbarium at Fernvale Link.

The dialogue session also had representatives of the Life Corporation Pte Ltd, Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) and Housing Development Board (HDB).

Many of the Fernvale Lea’s future residents were alarmed to know from news that their estate or soon-to-be-completed homes are to be situated next to a Chinese temple, which would house a columbarium within its premises.

Speaking in Mandarin, Ms Sharon Toh a resident of Fernvale Link asked the panel which comprised of Mr Simon Hoo, Chief Executive Officer of Life Corporation Pte Ltd and Dr Lam Pin Min about the details of the company and questions about what the company would offer in the Chinese temple. She also shared her concerns over the running of the Chinese temple by the private company.

Read the full report of the dialogue session here.

Below is the transcript of the video.



Ms Sharon Toh: (Speaking in Mandarin) I myself do not object to the construction of a monastery, or a temple or even a church. But now I hold much doubt towards the intended use of the land that has been tendered by the company and approved by the authorities.

First, I would like to point out to Mr Simon Ho. Simon Hoo? Ok. In the Straits Times and the Chinese newspaper on 30 December, you proclaimed that your company will have a one-stop funeral service. Is that correct?

Not just this, Life Corp also in its shareholder circular, spoke in detail about the series of development once the land is successfully bid. Ok?

These series of development includes columbarium, one-stop funeral services and etc related services. I also heard that you also have a crematorium.

But after 31 (December), after you have met with Dr. Lam. You went to say that you only have services for the columbarium and no funeral services. ok?

Mr Hoo, I would like to clarify on your operations. I have written it down in points and after that what are you going to do to guarantee the residents that you will not provide the one-stop funeral services?

And after you have given us your guarantee, how is Life Corp going to answer to its shareholders?

If your shareholders insist that to have the one-stop funeral services later on. Can we ask if eventually there will be such services? Ok? Because it is just temporarily.

So I have to address that this Chinese temple, would it be Life Corp or Eternal Pure Land managing it? If it is Eternal land that is managing it, how about you answer me, is that ok?

Mr Simon Hoo: If you don’t mind, I will reply in English.

Thank you for the questions and these are very valid questions and first thing to clarify. The article which came out in the Straits Times on the 30 December, I did not give an interview. The reporter called me up for a two minute talk and asked me if I am free, I say I am on a holiday, I am on my way, on a plane for a family holiday. Can I get back to you in a moment. So that was the two minute conversation.

And you know, certain investigation journalism came, they read our annual report, they read our announcements and all the stories that was gelled. And when the article was published, it was not verified or confirmed with certain facts of the company itself.

So to clarify those things the report say, the articles say that Life Corp or Simon Hoo said certain things itself, they are linked out of context.

The only thing I said was the temple will be completed before 2017.

In terms of what Sharon Toh has said, you know, the announcements, the annual reports, we tell shareholders, we have told shareholders that we are a full suite of services from premium funeral services all the way to columbarium.

That is true but we did not say that it will be conducted on the same site. That is more referenced to the business model, in the way we have Singapore funeral services, as a fact conducting premium funeral services, they are doing the funeral services at the housing estates all over Singapore.

We are not saying that we are putting SFS into the same place to do the same business. Because we realise that shareholders have no expectation of that and our board of directors have no intention of that the funeral parlour, funeral services to be conducted at Fernvale because in the first place when we went for the tender. We read under conditions, we read the URA guidelines, funeral parlour is not allowed.

Crematorium is not allowed, because that is even worse. Crematorium is only done by the government because crematorium can burn some evidence in terms of any murder case so this is very strict so there is no impression that anyone can just open a crematorium.

As for the crematorium and stuff. There has never been an intention that it should be conducted at the temple site because it is a place of worship, it is not a parlour, it is not a parlour.

So I just want to add, how would we answer the shareholders. I don’t have the answers to shareholders because there was no expectation of that in the first place.

Sharon: So can I continue my question? (Speaking in Mandarin) You didn’t answer my question: is this piece of land managed by Life Corp or Eternal Pure Land?

Simon: To that question itself, Life Corp is the parent company; Eternal Pure Land itself is the owner, developer and operator of this temple site itself. So Eternal Pure Land will be operating it but the management is the same from Life Corp.

Sharon: If that is the case, is Life Corp/Eternal Pure Land registered as a religious organisation in Singapore?

Simon: Eternal Pure Land is not a registered religious group.

Sharon turned and addressed the people in the audience: Ok, no. (Residents start to applause)

Sharon: If that is the case, may I know if it is a not-for-profit organisation?

Simon: No. (Further applause from the residents)

Sharon: Is it a registered charity?

Simon: No. (Residents applause)

Sharon: If it’s ‘no’ to everything, in that case, you all should also not be registered with the Singapore Buddhist or Singapore Taoist Association. Am I right?

Simon: Right, right. (Residents applause)

Sharon: If that’s the case how can you bid for this land in the name of a Chinese temple? (Residents applause)

I haven’t finished my questions.

If you are bidding in the name of Life Corp, I think this is a serious problem. If you are bidding in the name of Life Corp, a listed company, can I say that you are using falsely using the name of religion as a way for your listed company. (Resident’s applause drowns the voice of the speaker)

I have more questions to ask URA later. Thank you

Dr Lam Pin Min: Maybe just before Simon answers the question, there is actually two aspects to this dialogue session, ok? The first aspect is having the Chinese temple with columbarium service located in Fernvale Link. That’s one aspect. I think there will be other residents who will actually be quite concerned about this aspect.

Then the other aspect will be actually the tendering and the running of the Chinese temple activities. All right? Ok, so we have to separate it very clearly and, of course, we will have Mr Simon as well as URA and HDB here to actually help us answer some of these questions.

Sharon: But Mr Lam, if he (Simon and Life Corp) does not belong to any religious groups, how can they claim it to be a Chinese Temple? (Residents applause)

Dr Lam: (Speaking in Mandarin) Later our HDB and URA colleagues will help explain these queries.

(Speaking in English) So we don’t want to jump to conclusion yet. All right?

(“Why not explain now?” shouted one resident from the audience)

Dr Lam: Ok? Because we want to have some sequence, lah. We don’t want to jump all over the place. We have time, ok? We have all the time to answer all the questions.


End Of Article​

 
That's a very interesting looking 'Chinese temple'... in fact it looks like Jurong East's Big Box mall with a a little Buddhist decoration. :rolleyes:

Looks like those Nirvana buildings
 
Detailed report of Lampar Pin's dialogue with video

One of the families noted to the panel that while the representing company, Life Corporation Ptd Ltd is a listed company, the company which won the tender bid at $5.2 million dollars is Eternal Pureland Pte Ltd, a company which was set up just weeks before it won the tender by HDB/URA on 8 July 2014.

The family added that the company is a company with $1 paid up capital owned by another company with $3 paid up capital. The company lists its services in ACRA as funeral services, embalming, managing of cemetery and, etc. They also pointed out that this essentially means the company provides a one-stop funeral service with nothing related to religious activity.

A spokesperson from HDB said that it was perfectly normal for companies to set up just weeks before a tender to bid for the project but did not elaborate further. Dr. Lam also did not comment on this point raised by the family.

http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/201...-over-planned-chinese-temple-and-columbarium/
 
Re: Public statement from Fernvale Lea residents, accusingMSM of biased reporting

PAP MP camp is now going to work overtime to fix the indian chief.

射人先射马,擒贼先擒王。

iras,cpf gonna dig up any shit they can find and quell the rebellion.

when 200metre radius of polling station can be bastardize to let offenders become not guilty. what say you? the sanctity of PAP and for~profit~entity has been questioned,the saga of columbarium can draw a closure if old fart commits to let his remains his housed there.
 
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Re: Sengkang "temple" - 3 Day Old $1 Company Can Win HDB Tender

During the dialogue, a resident exposed that this $1 company was in turn actually owned by a $3 company!!!!!!!!

Fishy, and the rot goes all the way to the top.

"Australian" company in name, owned by a Chink.
 
Re: Buddhists upset, the self-proclaimed $8 Buddhist Cow & MND must do the right thin

Hello,

The Minister in charge of HDB is a devout Buddhist. If he didnt think anything was wrong, why should you?
 
Re: Public statement from Fernvale Lea residents, accusingMSM of biased reporting

U think the Fernvale Lea residents will win the case ?
No way man,the govt will say they got the backing of 60% ,so they got the mandate.
u not happy is it ? Just take it or fark off ! U lan lan squeeze your own balls..
 
Re: Sengkang "temple" - 3 Day Old $1 Company Can Win HDB Tender

During the dialogue, a resident exposed that this $1 company was in turn actually owned by a $3 company!!!!!!!!

Fishy, and the rot goes all the way to the top.

"Australian" company in name, owned by a Chink.

Huat Ah! AIM Upsize
 
Re: Public statement from Fernvale Lea residents, accusingMSM of biased reporting

The Fernvale Lea residents can be pacified with some shopping vouchers and GST rebates. That's the crux of this matter. Sinkies are famous for being cheapskates.
 
Re: Sengkang "temple" - 3 Day Old $1 Company Can Win HDB Tender

Source: A visit to the MP - Against columbarium

More interesting fact about Life Corporation:
"Management Efficency
The company has return on total asset (ROA) of (12.0) % which means that it has lost $12.0 on every $100 spent on asset. This is way below average. Similarly, it shows return on equity (ROE) of (27.08) % meaning that it generated substantial loss on money invested by shareholders."

Is Singapore a money tree that hands out guaranteed profits to ailing foreign enterprises?




End Of Article​

 
Re: Video - Lam Pin Min's Dialogue With Residents About The Planned Columbarium

will we ever get any answers re this $1 company?
 
Re: Public statement from Fernvale Lea residents, accusingMSM of biased reporting

The Fernvale Lea residents can be pacified with some shopping vouchers and GST rebates. That's the crux of this matter. Sinkies are famous for being cheapskates.

so PAP doesn't have to spend much on you, or you are Australian?
 
Re: Public statement from Fernvale Lea residents, accusingMSM of biased reporting

He is a sinkie with Two English Names. ;)

so PAP doesn't have to spend much on you, or you are Australian?
 
Re: Public statement from Fernvale Lea residents, accusingMSM of biased reporting

He is a sinkie with Two English Names. ;)

I am with you on this, absolutely ;)
 
Re: Video - Lam Pin Min's Dialogue With Residents About The Planned Columbarium

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HDB does a MobileAir !!!! well presented comparison.
 
Re: MP Lam continues to digress, Fervane owners want refund, HDB to consider

one affected buyer of sengkang west unit was so aggrieved at HDB underhand tactics that he fell to his knees and beg for refund.

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