NDP contrarian view

[A Singaporean]

The SAF is one big fucking joke.

 

[JohnTan]

where can your food supplies come from? Argentina, Spain, Australia, NZ, China? How long do they take to come here? How much can we import from these countries daily? What are the means to transport them? Do you know how much food come in daily from malaysia compared to all those named countries? What if the enemy choke off our SLOCs?. Do your sums b4 you show more ignorance.

We have eggs coming as far as poland and fish from alaska. If our neighbours want to choke off our trade routes, it's open war.

 

[redbull313]

NDP same old shit every year. Clear display of Sinkies lack of creativity.

shoo CECA shitskin no go to NDP you are Indian, dark skin from India not Singapore shoo go back to India shoooo!

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

The indons and jiuhu moslem armies are not confident of victory against our SAF. What we lack in large scale military ops, we make up with better technology and vastly superior firepower.

The examples you listed were all small engagements, not major warfare. Our neighbours also do not have experience in military warfare beyond skirmishes with rebels equipped with small arms.

Hope our navy has learnt the difference between turning right and left under high stress level.

 

[nayr69sg]

@Papsmearer bro! Well written.

But you are/were from the SAF yourself right? So you are saying you weren't needed? Waste of resources to have yourself?

 

[blackmondy]

Your idea of warfare is totally outdated. Nowadays it is not abt military conquest. It is abt economic dominance. What is the point of having F15s and submarines when you dont have the people to hold ground. If our enemies wish, they dont even have to fire a shot or lose a life. All they need to do is deny food to singapore and Singaporeans will be brought to their knees with the F15s, F16s on the ground.

Pappy cocksuckers are commies. The commie mindset is hardwired to old ways of doing things.
John Tan probably still shit squatting.

 

[nayr69sg]

As we approach National Day, the Punish All Peasants party seem to be intent on going through with some form of a NDP Mobile Column parade. Before all you S'poreans swell up with pride at the parade of tanks and weapons rolling down the street, know that all our neighbours are laughing at our stupidity. When I see all this military hardware drive by, and fighter jets and helos flying over head, I feel anger and I feel a profound sense of waste. No one has posed a military threat to us in the last 30 years. Our neighbours have not threatened us and have no intent and military means to even mount any sort of military action against us. In the midst of the Covid Pandemic, our neighbour to the North opened their border for food and supplies to come into S'pore. They could have easily closed the border and retain all food and supplies for their own citizens. Yet, we spend about $15 Billion on Defence, in the latest budget. While you admire the beauty of your weapons, consider these facts:

1) Those F-15SG you see flying overhead during NDP costs about USD$100 million each. Khoo Teck Puat hospital build about 10 years ago cost S$700 million. Even with inflation today, 8 of those planes would pay for a brand new hospital the size of KTP. And we have 40 of these planes. Do we need 40 F-15SG (when we already have the most modern F-16s in the world), or do we need 4 or 5 more KTP hospitals to combat over crowdedness and pandemics?
2) The Navy ordered 4 brand new Submarines from Germany, the top of the line for their class. Minister Ng calls them the BMWs of submarines. Well, they cost just over $5 billion. No one yet knows why we need them. MINDEATH has not explained specifically the role of these submarines. Our coastal waters are minuscule and can be protected better from air. The shipping lanes that surround us are essential trading lanes to big countries like the US and China. Any threat to these shipping lanes will bring in much bigger and more capable navies to protect it. Out 4 Submarines and the rest of our Navy does not amount to a lot when you look at the overall picture. We don't need them. For what MINDEATH paid for the submarines, the govt could have given $1 billion to every single man woman and child citizen (assume 3 million native Singaporeans) for 5 years. That's $3,333 each, to tide them over the Covid after effects. But the PAP seems to think this money is better spend on useless submarines.

3) Consider this. The SAF has the following armour vehicles. 170+ 70 tonne Leopard 2 tanks, 300 Bionix II, 435 Terrex, and around 700 M-113. That does not include the new Hunter AFV that have been ordered. This is over 1500 armour vehicles for a country which is 721 sq km. This makes S'pore the most heavily defended country in the world..........by far. With all the money spend on the army and the up keeping of related parasite organizations like DSTA, DSO, ST Engineering, etc. the govt could have provided free education every year for every Singapore child from Kindergarten up to University. Think about this, our kids would never have to pay school fees at any level of schooling, if we just took $5 billion out of the defence budget and used it for their schooling. Which is more beneficial to us? Schooling for our kids, free of financial worries, or 1500 tanks and AFVs to defend against whom we know not?

I want to remind everyone that all this money spend on defence is wasted, gone to the companies and workers of other countries who supply us with these weapons. We have not even touch on the social and economic aspects of life lost and altered due to death and injury in NS. Nor to the millions of man hours wasted every year by our NSmen and Reservists, which could have been put into the economy to produce goods and services. See this NDP for what it is. Its a complete total BS waste of our money.

I am honestly EXTREMELY disappointed that Malaysia continued to supply SG with food and water during the pandemic lockdown. It would have been the perfect excuse to test such a deprivation strategy.

m&ds are actually very friendly to sg despite the PAP propaganda.

 

[SalahParking]

Fuck Lah...the submarine is for pinky to slip out of the island undetected.

 

[spotter542]

Only Commies states showcase their arsenal on national TV

 

[Papsmearer]

I am honestly EXTREMELY disappointed that Malaysia continued to supply SG with food and water during the pandemic lockdown. It would have been the perfect excuse to test such a deprivation strategy.

m&ds are actually very friendly to sg despite the PAP propaganda.

They had a legitimate reason to shut off the food and water during the pandemic. See pinky and the PAP gabra like fuck. They should have done that. Mahathir is too nice

 

[Papsmearer]

@Papsmearer bro! Well written.

But you are/were from the SAF yourself right? So you are saying you weren't needed? Waste of resources to have yourself?

Don't be stupid. In my time, there was still some justification. eg Vietnam war just ended and Vietnam was one of the most heavily armed country in the world after that. There was still some possibility they could roll down SE Asia and get the rest of us ala domino theory. Now, cold war is over long long ago. The Viets are busy making money hand over fist and love sinkieland. Now its a waste of resources.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

It is because of Singapore's almighty military power that none of the neighbours have dared to sabre rattle.

Without the hardware, software and the total defense strategy Singapore would be a sitting duck.

Hats off to the PAP for not being complacent.

Despite all this military spending singkieland cannot even defend its territory from a country whose military is relatively under funded.

When push comes to shove singkieland military is useless.
Singapore stands firm in dispute over its territorial waters, rejects KL’s call to stop sending assets to area

A Malaysian government vessel (left) and a Singapore Police Coast Guard vessel in Singapore territorial waters off Tuas on Dec 6, 2018.ST PHOTO: MARK CHEONG
Published
Dec 7, 2018, 9:13 pm SGT
Updated
Dec 8, 2018, 5:13 pm
SINGAPORE - Singapore has rejected Malaysia’s call for both countries to stop sending assets into an area of the Republic’s waters off Tuas which Kuala Lumpur recently laid claim to.
Malaysian government vessels that have encroached into Singapore’s territorial waters must leave the area immediately, the Republic added.
“Singapore remains ready to discuss this issue with Malaysia in a constructive manner in the spirit of preserving our important bilateral relationship,” a Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) spokesman said on Friday night (Dec 7).
“However, Singapore does not agree with Malaysia’s proposal for both countries to cease and desist from sending assets into the disputed area,” the spokesman added.
His reply came shortly after Malaysian Foreign Minister Saifuddin Abdullah proposed through Singapore’s High Commissioner in Kuala Lumpur that “both countries cease and desist from sending assets into the disputed area from 0000 hours on Dec 8, 2018, pending discussions on outstanding maritime boundary issues”. Singapore said it would respond to the diplomatic note in due course.
Malaysia – for the first time – claimed the area unilaterally in its Government Gazette notice extending Johor Baru port limits on Oct 25.
The Republic strongly protested against the action, but Malaysia continued to publish notices on the new limits, and its government vessels began making intrusions into the area, claiming the area as their own.
The matter came into the open on Tuesday, and Singapore Transport Minister Khaw Boon Wan and Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan subsequently told Malaysia to stop its intrusions and leave the area.
On Thursday, Singapore also extended its port limits off Tuas to track the eastern boundary of the Johor Baru port limits Malaysia had gazetted in 1999.
Datuk Saifuddin said Malaysia had protested to Singapore against this move.

On Friday, three Malaysian government vessels continued to remain in the area despite repeated warnings by Singapore agencies.
Such vessels have made at least 14 intrusions in the area since Nov 24.
Singapore Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen issued a strong caution to the vessels to leave the area.
He said Singapore navy and Police Coast Guard craft have been patrolling these waters for 20 years or more. “Out of nowhere, Malaysian government vessels now claim these waters as theirs and have been continually intruding since November. These are serious violations of Singapore’s sovereignty.”
The MFA spokesman called on the Malaysian vessels to “forthwith cease these provocative violations of Singapore sovereignty and return to the status quo ante before Oct 25, 2018, without prejudice to our respective positions on maritime boundary claims in the area”.
“Attempts to create facts on the ground add nothing to Malaysia’s legal case and are unhelpful for an amicable resolution of our maritime boundary issues,” MFA added.
Environment and Water Resources Minister Masagos Zulkifli said Malaysia’s unilateral move went against the positive ties that the leaders and people of both countries wanted.
He added: “What is clear is that we will deal with this issue firmly and calmly. The people are united.”
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[Papsmearer]

Even with the big modern toys, our NS boys would still be no match for the regular soldiers from Malaysia, Indonesia. The Malaysians have fought in Sabah in 2013, the Indons against the Aceh insurgents. What war campaigns our boys fought before apart from shooting their cums inside the condoms in those whore joints at Geylang when they book out? I bet my last dollar, our boys would lay down their arms and run away in an event of war. So there's no need to spend billions in modern warfare machines, we are still going to be defeated when the Royal Matland soldiers come to town. Even PAP cocksucker like John Tan would probably volunteer himself to be a translator for the invading Malaysian forces. LOL

The Malaysians fought in Kosovo with the UN peacekeeping force, and as a result of that realized they were deficient in the AFV and ordered new ones from South Korea. They also fought in Mogadishu and were actually the ones that rescued the US forces in Black Hawk down. They actually have real combat experience and use of armour in FIBUA. U look at Kee Chiu. That fucker could not lead a successful raid on a jamban.

 

[nayr69sg]

They had a legitimate reason to shut off the food and water during the pandemic. See pinky and the PAP gabra like fuck. They should have done that. Mahathir is too nice

Yeah. Malaysia is too nice

 

[Hypocrite-The]

They had a legitimate reason to shut off the food and water during the pandemic. See pinky and the PAP gabra like fuck. They should have done that. Mahathir is too nice

If mudland don't sell food to singkieland etc it is mudlanders that suffer

 

[Papsmearer]

NDP same old shit every year. Clear display of Sinkies lack of creativity.

They need to justify the enormous military spending by showing the peasants what their tax dollars are buying and making them steam at the same time

 

[Papsmearer]

If mudland don't sell food to singkieland etc it is mudlanders that suffer

They can sell within their own market and even export to other countries not called singapore. In fact, by selling to sinkies, we spoil their market as we pay more then the locals.

 

[nayr69sg]

If mudland don't sell food to singkieland etc it is mudlanders that suffer

You really believe that?

Let sg starve for a few months then raise prices later.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

They can sell within their own market and even export to other countries not called singapore. In fact, by selling to sinkies, we spoil their market as we pay more then the locals.

Singkies can don't buy mudland vegetables. N mudland sell to who? The neighbors are all agriculture producers them selves n shipments is harder for other countries so mudlanders sell to who? Their domestic market big enough?

 

[Papsmearer]

Singkies can don't buy mudland vegetables. N mudland sell to who? The neighbors are all agriculture producers them selves n shipments is harder for other countries so mudlanders sell to who? Their domestic market big enough?

When there is pandemic, there is panic buying. For sure they can sell everything to their own market.