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Ms Lo Hwei Yen

Why wouldnt a decent chap run a nightclub? is it because of sleaze?

Because you don't get to employ 'decent' chaps and your customers are no Sunday worshippers. Nightclub bosses, most of them, alleged to be laundering money. Some even accused of pimping their hostesses. Majority of customers also the ruffian type. Sleaze indeed. A different world altogether compared to offices and factories. But you get the privilege of discovering strange and interesting stories.
 
Yes..the pap, esp LKY, took a very wrong turn when they chose money over the joy, pride and honour of serving the country. That was a sad day .
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Singapore will never recover from that bad policy blunder as the rot permeates throughout the country

Would we really be so upset if only a few key personnel in the government are paid that much? I think thats ok but to pay the all the MPs these ridiculous high pays for less responsibility is a waste of money.

Also, they should have a self-life and not work until 90.
 
Why zoomed in at the opening question only? The question was for those who read the forum and know no head of tail about Tom, Dick and Mary. There are many who aren't Sporeans, and many others who have more important names or personal things to remember. Anyway, I'm sure you know its proper writing etiquette. At least cut-and-paste article or photo and start the thread from there.

What about the other questions that are equally pertinent? Why are you ranting away?

My interest in this thread is simply this. Why are you blaming others and not the terrorists who senselessly killed innocent people? Why not blame the Indians for not preventing so many other lives lost? If you kenna chopped like Darren Ng, you should go after the chopper not the police, owner of Downtown East or the Minister.


Why witchhunt? Does it makes you feel any better? Does it solve the problem? Is it able to prevent future massacre such as the Mumbai terrorism attack?

I was expressing my grief over the lost of a precious life. I am not here to rantm nor witchhunt.

I also expressed my regret over lhl's stupidity that caused Hwei Yen's demise. I hope he has wised up over the years and learnt from this saga.

Writing etiquette? this is an Alfresco Coffee shop, not a doctorate thesis..got etiquette and format ahh?

so far, many forumners have no problem understanding me...expressing the way we do adds flavour. Trying to write and and speak in Queen's english here may be a turn off.

Thank you for bearing with my imperfect writing etiquette:)
 
If I may add, even if none of your citizens are held hostages, don't sabo others with badly timed statements. If you can't help, it is best to keep quiet and pray. You can only choose to be a fool or be reckless if it is your own life that is at stake.

Good advice..

A leader shd not say anything that does not help solve the situation

A leader shd not say anything that may cause injury or death to the hostages.

did lhl observe the above?
 
Would we really be so upset if only a few key personnel in the government are paid that much? I think thats ok but to pay the all the MPs these ridiculous high pays for less responsibility is a waste of money.

Also, they should have a self-life and not work until 90.

Paying the MPs is not the whole problem. Getting shortchanged is. Remember the praises heaped on Lily Neo when she spoke up on behalf of the poor and aged?

May I ask, why did she steal the limelight? Isn't speaking up for your residents an MP's job? How many MPs voice up real problems in parliament? How many actually attend in the first place? How many just go thru the motion by attending and not speaking up or when speaking up, speaking the politically correct stuff? How many fell asleep so many times while parliament was in session?

We are not getting value for their services. If we are, then I am blind and deaf and dumb.
 
Because you don't get to employ 'decent' chaps and your customers are no Sunday worshippers. Nightclub bosses, most of them, alleged to be laundering money. Some even accused of pimping their hostesses. Majority of customers also the ruffian type. Sleaze indeed. A different world altogether compared to offices and factories. But you get the privilege of discovering strange and interesting stories.

ahhh...interesting insights into the Night Club scene.

But i guess it is not only confined to nightclubs. the same sleaze applies to casinos and gambling.

to me, the pap is an accomplice in allowing casinos in SG.. so is the pap also not decent?
 
Would we really be so upset if only a few key personnel in the government are paid that much? I think thats ok but to pay the all the MPs these ridiculous high pays for less responsibility is a waste of money.

Also, they should have a self-life and not work until 90.

The whole concept, approach and demand to be paid obscenely speak volumes of the pap leadership. It's just demeaning and distasteful. I dont wish to have people like that to be my leader. I rather have one who is more caring and concern...not one who comes in grudgingly and ask.."who shd I serve?"

my retort to him is..."no one asked you to serve"..."you serve for the money"..."you were the one who came to my home and asked me to vote for you because you said you wanted to serve the people"... "if you r not willing, dont stand for election and dont come campaigning at my place" ... "no one will miss you"
 
Would we really be so upset if only a few key personnel in the government are paid that much? I think thats ok but to pay the all the MPs these ridiculous high pays for less responsibility is a waste of money.

Also, they should have a self-life and not work until 90.

The US Presidency has a limit of two terms..that's very wise and prevents exploitation and croynism. SG shd learn from such best practices..but alas, pap's self interest takes precedence over good sense and good judgement.

We need strong oppositions and strong established institutions to check abuses and self interests in SG.

We need a few righteous and moral men to save SG
 
Paying the MPs is not the whole problem. Getting shortchanged is. Remember the praises heaped on Lily Neo when she spoke up on behalf of the poor and aged?

May I ask, why did she steal the limelight? Isn't speaking up for your residents an MP's job? How many MPs voice up real problems in parliament? How many actually attend in the first place? How many just go thru the motion by attending and not speaking up or when speaking up, speaking the politically correct stuff? How many fell asleep so many times while parliament was in session?

We are not getting value for their services. If we are, then I am blind and deaf and dumb.

WE need MPs who truly care for the people.

PAP MPs just cant make it
 
I now travel with a quran and a songkok in my bag. in event of such terror attacks put them on and face mecca shouting "allah akhbar". and most importantly never show them a red passport bearing the words "singapore". its a immediate passport to hell.


hi there

1. frankie, well don't forget to cut "down there" too hoh!
2. no offence, i am only joking man!
 
Cut so be it but cannot too much.....if not confirm convert not to muslim but to eunuch..:D

In ancient China, the Emperor made some men eunuchs so that they have less distractions and can do their job better.

SAF made SG men b.lless, not eunuchs
 
Your reply shows that you have lost the plot.

Nope, on the contrary, you missed the plot.

Why would one employs these acts of terror like hijacking or hostage taking? What do they want you to feel? What benefit does these acts give them? You think they do these to make friends? Think about it.
 
As for Devil Within, How sure are you that the documentary is highly credible, It seems that you are basing everything on just that one documentary, besides your apparent disagreement with Islam as a whole. Did you read the Quran, kindly enlighten us as to where did it say that muslim are instructed to kill non-muslim or "infidels" ? It seems that you have this illusion that every muslim is a terrorist and every terrorist is a muslim?
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Please show me any other "credible" documents you have that contradict with the one produced by National Geographic.

Are you that dumb? You can't do a google to search for such passages? Want to to teach you how? Just type "Quran verse of violence" in the search box on google page, you will get lots of them.
 
I see, so basically, you did not in fact read, study or analyse the Quran, all you did is googling "Quran verse of violence" ? no wonder you are so smart ;)

Please show me any other "credible" documents you have that contradict with the one produced by National Geographic.

Are you that dumb? You can't do a google to search for such passages? Want to to teach you how? Just type "Quran verse of violence" in the search box on google page, you will get lots of them.
 
Nope, on the contrary, you missed the plot.

Why would one employs these acts of terror like hijacking or hostage taking? What do they want you to feel? What benefit does these acts give them? You think they do these to make friends? Think about it.

It's fine if it makes perfect sense for you to provoke someone who is pointing a gun at your head. But I bet no one will want to be caught in the situation with a hero like you. Worse if you are on the outside and go on TV to dare the terrorists to kill your fellow countrymen so as to prove that you are so brave.
 
It's fine if it makes perfect sense for you to provoke someone who is pointing a gun at your head. But I bet no one will want to be caught in the situation with a hero like you. Worse if you are on the outside and go on TV to dare the terrorists to kill your fellow countrymen so as to prove that you are so brave.

You missed the point again.

In the recent hostage situation in Philippine, if those victims had acted early when that 1 gunmen was relaxing, maybe more could have walked alive out of the bus instead of becoming sitting ducks for target practice.

If the over hundreds of passengers on the plane that crashed in 911, maybe they may have a chance and be alive and not dead in the buildings with thousands more if they had acted to contain those 4 or 6 dumb fucks terrorist.

Hostage takers take hostage for a reason, and the reason is to strike fear in and outside of his zone. When you are in fear, the perpetrator is in control. When the perpetrator is in control, you will have to listen to whatever demand he want. This is the effectiveness of hostage taking. If this effectiveness is gone, then it would be a waste of time and effort to be a hostage taker.

If hostage taking is not an effective tool for the terrorist, then it would not be in the plan of action.

Even if you saved one hostage situation, you can be sure there will be another so long as the perpetrator see the effectiveness of taking hostages for their demands. So how many hostage situation you want? It will be never ending so long as dumb fucks are scared shit and act like sitting ducks for target practice.
 
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