Ms Lo Hwei Yen

[GoldenDragon]

Dont bother to reason with Devil Within. He will twist your words and put words into your mouth just to support his warped mind

Agree. I think some have better abilities in preparing roti prata - peng here and there, then peng and peng again. I gave up yesterday trying to show the way.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Sigh... another dumb fuck who don't understand the deeper issue. Only looking at things on it's surface. How sad...

I may be a dumb fuck. But I know there are at least 2 more 'dumber fucks" than myself - LHL and Devil Within.

Bro, we are merely looking at things on its surface and you already have problems with that. How are we to carry on a healthy discussion on 'deeper issues' when you can't clear the first hurdle?

LHL is a more 'dumber fuck' than myself coz no one of sound mind would have acted the way he did. You don't need a PhD or PSLE to know that when at the mercy of others, behave like a kitten and not a hero. Remember the victim at DTE?

It is worse when you decide to act as a hero when your own life is not at stake but the life of your own citizen. By zipping up his mouth, he doesn't lose anything and might even have saved the life of the victim.

Bro, you write well. But I am sad that despite the many heroic attempts by other bros and TracyTan866, you miraculously missed our arguments. How you managed that I can never understand and doubt if I ever will.

If you are intentionally missing THE point, great for you. For whatever reasons, I need not know. But if you truly and honestly missed THE point after all the attempts, bro, you really have my sympathies. I wish you well from the bottom of my heart.

 

[GoldenDragon]

And should be duly condemned outright like how you would condemn a person of killing his/her own parents.

The dumb ones will think it is excusable or even understandable why these fuck heads need to employ such acts of terror for their causes. Worst still, negotiate with them.

There is always a right time and right place to condemn acts of terror. You can do so in parliament, when you make a speech at a university or conference etc. You can also condemn such acts as a national leader but never at a time when your citizens' lives are at stake. You still don't get the point, do you?

You have problems with negotiations? If your kids on the plane, need to negotiate? Follow the Israelis who don't negotiate at all? The Israelis can do so coz they are different. Their nationals would rather die than acquiesce to the demands of the terrorists.

All other nations will negotiate. To negotiate or not to, there is no right or wrong. To endanger the lives of your citizens when there was no need to talk cock (LHL did), that is criminal.

 

[GoldenDragon]

LHL condemned the terrorist act which I find nothing wrong.

You must be the 7th natural wonder of this world. No one will blame LHL for condemning terrorism. For the last time, try and understand that there was no need to condemn them when Ms Lo's life was in the hands of the terrorists and not PAP. Whether Ms Lo will be alive today had LHL acted in a more intelligent manner, that's another issue altogether, clear?

 

[GoldenDragon]

Sigh, a smart person will know when to open his mouth and when to keep quiet. In other words, you can condemn the terrorists, but not when they are pointing a gun at your national. Sheeesh. No wonder my Malaysian friends said Singaporeans always say something and offend people, and yet do not know it.

If I may add, even if none of your citizens are held hostages, don't sabo others with badly timed statements. If you can't help, it is best to keep quiet and pray. You can only choose to be a fool or be reckless if it is your own life that is at stake.

 

[GoldenDragon]

From the way you see things, you are indeed a very decent guy.

you are so unlike some guys who spout vulgarities freely.

If you consider an ex-nightclub owner a decent guy, I am ok with that. I may not be that decent but at least I don't utter rubbish. Few men are decent - principals, pastors, priests, monks included.

 

[rodent2005]

So it is ok to agree with the terrorist when they are pointing your head and not agree with them when they are not point your head? Wow, that sounds like a 2 head snake or one with no integrity.

Sheeesh, you don't have to agree with the terrorists when they are pointing a gun at your head, you simply keep your mouth shut.

 

[TracyTan866]

Agree. I think some have better abilities in preparing roti prata - peng here and there, then peng and peng again. I gave up yesterday trying to show the way.

Great..we have better things to do than to entertain his nonsense. Just ignore him

 

[TracyTan866]

I may be a dumb fuck. But I know there are at least 2 more 'dumber fucks" than myself - LHL and Devil Within.

Bro, we are merely looking at things on its surface and you already have problems with that. How are we to carry on a healthy discussion on 'deeper issues' when you can't clear the first hurdle?

LHL is a more 'dumber fuck' than myself coz no one of sound mind would have acted the way he did. You don't need a PhD or PSLE to know that when at the mercy of others, behave like a kitten and not a hero. Remember the victim at DTE?

It is worse when you decide to act as a hero when your own life is not at stake but the life of your own citizen. By zipping up his mouth, he doesn't lose anything and might even have saved the life of the victim.

Bro, you write well. But I am sad that despite the many heroic attempts by other bros and TracyTan866, you miraculously missed our arguments. How you managed that I can never understand and doubt if I ever will.

If you are intentionally missing THE point, great for you. For whatever reasons, I need not know. But if you truly and honestly missed THE point after all the attempts, bro, you really have my sympathies. I wish you well from the bottom of my heart.

Well said and well analysed. But some people here chooses to ignore facts, good analysis and good reasoning

 

[GoldenDragon]

What happened to the honour and joy of service?

It died many years ago when a decision was made to peg their salaries to the top income chaps in S'pore. I would bow down or even kneel down to them if they peg their salaries to the bottom pile of people - maybe say 30 times the average income of coffeeshop shop assistants, cleaners, retail assistants, tellers etc.

 

[TracyTan866]

If you consider an ex-nightclub owner a decent guy, I am ok with that. I may not be that decent but at least I don't utter rubbish. Few men are decent - principals, pastors, priests, monks included.

Night club owner is a legitimate business

 

[TracyTan866]

It died many years ago when a decision was made to peg their salaries to the top income chaps in S'pore. I would bow down or even kneel down to them if they peg their salaries to the bottom pile of people - maybe say 30 times the average income of coffeeshop shop assistants, cleaners, retail assistants, tellers etc.

Yes..the pap, esp LKY, took a very wrong turn when they chose money over the joy, pride and honour of serving the country. That was a sad day .

Singapore will never recover from that bad policy blunder as the rot permeates throughout the country

 

[GoldenDragon]

Well said and well analysed. But some people here chooses to ignore facts, good analysis and good reasoning

Believe me, if he chooses to ignore facts etc intentionally, that is fine. He may have his reasons.

But, if he is trying to understand us and yet fail to, what can be more pitiful than the mental state he is in?

 

[GoldenDragon]

Night club owner is a legitimate business

Agree, agree, agree. We pay CPF, income tax, GST, rental, staff salaries etc. No decent chap runs a nightclub.

 

[TracyTan866]

Believe me, if he chooses to ignore facts etc intentionally, that is fine. He may have his reasons.

But, if he is trying to understand us and yet fail to, what can be more pitiful than the mental state he is in?

hahaha...good point.

 

[TracyTan866]

Agree, agree, agree. We pay CPF, income tax, GST, rental, staff salaries etc. No decent chap runs a nightclub.

Why wouldnt a decent chap run a nightclub? is it because of sleaze?

 

[Devil Within]

I may be a dumb fuck. But I know there are at least 2 more 'dumber fucks" than myself - LHL and Devil Within.

Bro, we are merely looking at things on its surface and you already have problems with that. How are we to carry on a healthy discussion on 'deeper issues' when you can't clear the first hurdle?

LHL is a more 'dumber fuck' than myself coz no one of sound mind would have acted the way he did. You don't need a PhD or PSLE to know that when at the mercy of others, behave like a kitten and not a hero. Remember the victim at DTE?

It is worse when you decide to act as a hero when your own life is not at stake but the life of your own citizen. By zipping up his mouth, he doesn't lose anything and might even have saved the life of the victim.

Bro, you write well. But I am sad that despite the many heroic attempts by other bros and TracyTan866, you miraculously missed our arguments. How you managed that I can never understand and doubt if I ever will.

If you are intentionally missing THE point, great for you. For whatever reasons, I need not know. But if you truly and honestly missed THE point after all the attempts, bro, you really have my sympathies. I wish you well from the bottom of my heart.

I did not miss any point, it is you who missed the whole point.

 

[Devil Within]

Sheeesh, you don't have to agree with the terrorists when they are pointing a gun at your head, you simply keep your mouth shut.

That is what terrorist want you to do. Keep your mouth shut and stay still till they kill you.

 

[haywire]

Would Ms Lo Hwein Yen be alive right now had LHL shut his trap? I am not sure if it is directly linked, I guess it's probable, though it's kinda far-fetched in my opinion. may she rest in peace.

As for Devil Within, How sure are you that the documentary is highly credible, It seems that you are basing everything on just that one documentary, besides your apparent disagreement with Islam as a whole. Did you read the Quran, kindly enlighten us as to where did it say that muslim are instructed to kill non-muslim or "infidels" ? It seems that you have this illusion that every muslim is a terrorist and every terrorist is a muslim?

Personally, I have lots of questions about the sequence of events surrounding the mumbai attacks, just like I had for 9/11 and 7/7. Then again, I'm one of those who believes(with research) that 9/11 is an inside job. (How could such precision attacks have been carried out by a bunch of flight school dropouts? It's just not possible.)

Look, I'm not condoning any act of terror. Anyone who kills the innocents in the name of any religion is clearly misguided. And it's disturbing when masses direct linking every "terror act" to the religion of Islam. Was what they did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki NOT terrorism? Was the killings in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine and many others NOT terrorism?

Back to the mumbai attacks well, what can I say, perhaps a picture can paint a few thousand words.

Let your HUMANITY decides, not your PREJUDICE.

 

[myo539]

You have not heard of the Singaporean lawyer who was taken hostage by Mumbai terrorist? She was Hwei Yen

She was shot dead after a stupid Singaporean opened his big mouth and angered the hostage takers

Why zoomed in at the opening question only? The question was for those who read the forum and know no head of tail about Tom, Dick and Mary. There are many who aren't Sporeans, and many others who have more important names or personal things to remember. Anyway, I'm sure you know its proper writing etiquette. At least cut-and-paste article or photo and start the thread from there.

What about the other questions that are equally pertinent? Why are you ranting away?

My interest in this thread is simply this. Why are you blaming others and not the terrorists who senselessly killed innocent people? Why not blame the Indians for not preventing so many other lives lost? If you kenna chopped like Darren Ng, you should go after the chopper not the police, owner of Downtown East or the Minister.

Why witchhunt? Does it makes you feel any better? Does it solve the problem? Is it able to prevent future massacre such as the Mumbai terrorism attack?